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Tigerzeyes
05-31-2007, 01:52 AM
My first version of Seifer was a femme Seifer, and I was quite happy with it... only... my hair was dyed blonde at the time. What could I do with a blonde with that would evoke the idea of Seifer's hair while keeping it distinctly feminine?
Also, I'd like to keep my boots from my man Seifer version... so they're basically work-bootish. Would they look silly with a skirt? What style of skirt should I go with?

Also, does anyone have any random ideas that would add a more feminine touch to the costume?
I want to keep my coat, but I'd be willing to create a new vest :)

Thanks!

~ Tiger

Danzikumaru
05-31-2007, 02:06 AM
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Why do you even want to femminize it? It looked better in it's original form, to be perfectly honest.

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Lisu-chan
05-31-2007, 04:24 AM
The problem is... when someone want to go OOC I think he or she should think of the costume all by him\herself... But to give you points... I think you should keep the boots, it may just stand really cool, you could add some REALLY long socks (over the knee socks) I'd make a shorter version of Seifer's coat... something that ends half way on the skirt... Just for the fact that long coat, short skirt WON'T work.. or in my opinion would look silly! Just add the scar, and well I think you should dye your hair blonde, or use a wig... But that's entirely up to you! ^_^

Hope I helped!

megatopsy
05-31-2007, 05:36 AM
I agree with lisu-chan. I think long socks with the boots would look cool, maybe above the knee, or just below, and a shorter cape, for sure :)

Relion
05-31-2007, 10:51 AM
Oooh, for the long socks, I think the symbol on the back on his cape would look AWESOME on them, if you get what I mean. =]

Tigerzeyes
05-31-2007, 11:57 AM
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Why do you even want to femminize it? It looked better in it's original form, to be perfectly honest.

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I suppose as a male you've never had to bind your chest. Even when done properly, over a period of time, it becomes uncomfortable. Also, the male version of Seifer requires that I fit a lot of hair into a very small wig much lighter than my natural hair colour resulting in ALL kinds of problems. Also, because my hair line is wider than most peoples' at the temples, I need to use some form of temporary colouring to hide them, and all methods I've found so far are a GIANT pain.
It's not as though I'm abandoning the male version, it's just that I'd like a costume that's easier to get into and easier to wear for once.

To Relion-Rinoa, megatopsy, lisu-chan:
I think the socks are an awesome idea :) I think as far as the wig I'm just going to go ahead and buy a longish one and get experimenting :D

Celeste_Orchid
05-31-2007, 12:37 PM
imo, a female Seifer would look a bit like Nico Robin's Miss All Sunday outfit. But in Seifer's image. you get?

Like a vest thats a corset that shows middrift..
shorts instead of pants...
keep the jacket


all that and a bag of chips ;D

Danzikumaru
05-31-2007, 02:51 PM
I suppose as a male you've never had to bind your chest. Even when done properly, over a period of time, it becomes uncomfortable. Also, the male version of Seifer requires that I fit a lot of hair into a very small wig much lighter than my natural hair colour resulting in ALL kinds of problems. Also, because my hair line is wider than most peoples' at the temples, I need to use some form of temporary colouring to hide them, and all methods I've found so far are a GIANT pain.
It's not as though I'm abandoning the male version, it's just that I'd like a costume that's easier to get into and easier to wear for once.


It's slightly insulting that you assume that as a male I have no experience with the art of crossplay. My wife and cosplay partner is a also a crossplayer and I have had to fit extremely long and thick hair into a tiny wig before. So no, I DO understand what you're going through and if you're having that much trouble with it you are probably not doing something well as neither of us have ever had any problem with it.

If you want a costume that is easier to wear and get into, just do a female character then. "Femme" versions of male characters are just lazy, imho, and take away from the spirit of the original design.

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vampirate
05-31-2007, 03:16 PM
Hrm...I'd keep the boots and the jacket length myself. I do however think that for this version the jacket would look better with more of a feminine fit. Maybe put some new darts in it in the waist and back to fit a more girly figure.

I also think you need to keep the design of the vest to be recognizable, but maybe make it more like his Kingdom Hearts vest:
http://www.kh2.co.uk/image.php?view=kh2/artwork/kh2ucr04.jpg

I'm not sure about a skirt. The FFVIII girls do seem to like snug ones though. Maybe just some girly fitted pants would be more in character though.

For the hair maybe you could just slick it back into a low ponytail. It would be nice to have the short little flippy bits in the front though.

And I understand you about wanting to do a femme version. I know some people think they are overdone, but I personally feel that it's more the SnJ/skankified versions that are overdone. I feel like I would look ridiculous if I crossplayed(and not in a good way), so I don't. But if there's a cosplay I want to do I'm going to do it in whatever way I think is best for me.

Tigerzeyes
05-31-2007, 04:59 PM
It's slightly insulting that you assume that as a male I have no experience with the art of crossplay. My wife and cosplay partner is a also a crossplayer and I have had to fit extremely long and thick hair into a tiny wig before. So no, I DO understand what you're going through and if you're having that much trouble with it you are probably not doing something well as neither of us have ever had any problem with it.

If you want a costume that is easier to wear and get into, just do a female character then. "Femme" versions of male characters are just lazy, imho, and take away from the spirit of the original design.

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I didn't ask you whether or not I should do it, because I'm doing it. I asked people for advice and I ideas.
Female characters, in general, are not by any stretch of the imagination easier to cosplay. It depends on the individual character.
Do you have long hair, or does your wife? You're refering to your wife and yourself as one person. Yes, it is possible to fit long hair into a short wig, no, it is not super easy. It's not always super comfortable either. If you have fit your own long hair into short wigs and can do it easily and are comfortable, that's wonderful. I suppose I'm not as talented as you.
Also, unless *you* have breasts, the fact remains: you have never bound your OWN chest (unless you do have breasts, in which case, good for you). I don't know whether your wife has larger or smaller breasts, or what her particular body type is, but for ME, especially because I was injured in a karate match several years ago, binding, no matter how I do it (and I have tried MANY MANY methods) aggravates my old injury.
I find original versions of characters are just that; original. In many cases they require more thought and creativity than doing a carbon copy of something that already exists does. I cosplay for many reasons. I enjoy making a costume as close to the original as possible, and take joy in success. I also find it refreshing to flex my creative muscles and put together a new take on an old costume.
If your goal in cosplaying is accuracy, that's excellent, and I wish you success, but please note my original post was asking for suggestions in relation to the intended costume, and your opinion, though valid, was off-topic in this case.

Vampirate: I would like to keep the length of the jacket. I think it's important... I don't know why, lol. Tayloring the coat is an excellent idea :) and the KH vest is a great starting point :) My original version of femme Seifer actually had a pair of fitted black pants. I was thinking of going back to that... or maybe black capri (capris? sp? lol) pants.

vampirate
05-31-2007, 05:45 PM
Vampirate: I would like to keep the length of the jacket. I think it's important... I don't know why, lol. Tayloring the coat is an excellent idea :) and the KH vest is a great starting point :) My original version of femme Seifer actually had a pair of fitted black pants. I was thinking of going back to that... or maybe black capri (capris? sp? lol) pants.
I'm thinking sticking with your original fitted pants will look better than capris. It seems to me that capris would create odd visual lines that would break up the flow of the rest of the costume. Then I'm planning on going the tight fitted pants/boots route also for a femme version costume that I've been planning for whenever I can figure out a good place/time to wear the particular costume.

Oh, and maybe you could make little earrings of the symbol on his jacket. I think that would be cute, but not too cutesy and out of character.

Tigerzeyes
06-01-2007, 12:54 AM
Vampirate: The earrings are an excellent idea :) I was trying to think of somewhere else I could swing having the symbol, but everything just seemed like overkill. Earrings would be fun :) I think you're also right about the capris. Also, since I still have the original pants I wore it'd just be less work too, lol.