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TammyKitten
05-05-2003, 11:07 PM
Besides the obvious just what is the difference between crossplay and crossdressing? I am a guy and I love to put on a costume (womans clothing) including make up and wig, ect. and spend my evening or spare time as a woman.

Michi
05-05-2003, 11:27 PM
Wasn't this already asked? Like a while ago?

Agrias
05-05-2003, 11:33 PM
Erm.. o.o; I would think that it would be like asking "What's the difference between cosplaying and wearing regular clothes?"

If you want to know if something is crossplay or not, do this simple test. If the member of the sex you're emulating would be considered to be cosplaying by wearing the clothes, then it would be crossplay. ^^

I.E: If something isn't cosplay, it isn't crossplay. :p Crossplay is a subdivision of cosplay.

Karisu-sama
05-05-2003, 11:55 PM
Yes, it WAS asked a while ago. Oh well.... seems like a fairly easy differentiation to me.

Crossplaying = cosplay where the biological gender of the character is different from one's own. That means: wearing a costume as a character of a different gender. Example: My daughter crossplays as Kenshin. The term is a subset of "cosplay".

Crossdressing = wearing clothes that are appropriate to "the other (biological) gender". (Crossdressing is a more generalized term, and not always related to cosplay, although one can certainly consider crossdressing clothes to be a costume.)

One can of course be crossplaying and crossdressing at the same time. Example again: My daughter cosplays / crossplays as Kenshin. However, when she cosplays as Nuriko, she is crossplaying but NOT crossdressing - Nuriko is a guy who wears women's clothes. (HE's the crossdresser. ^^)

TammyKitten
05-07-2003, 10:41 PM
Some of you spend way to much time here. Anything over a long enough period of time is bound to get asked again or in a simular fashion.

Thousands of posts, come on. Sheesh!

I apologize for being new here. I must sound rediculously stupid to you senior cosplayers/crossplayers who have heard it and know it all.

Karisu-sama
05-07-2003, 10:54 PM
Originally posted by TammyKitten
Some of you spend way to much time here. Anything over a long enough period of time is bound to get asked again or in a simular fashion.

I apologize for being new here. I must sound rediculously stupid to you senior cosplayers/crossplayers who have heard it and know it all.
No, and that's why I answered you.
And I certainly haven't "heard it or know it all". Relax.

There ought to be a way to have older threads easier to find (ie: a "subject search"), instead of having to find where they are hiding somewhere down on the second, third, etc. page of each forum's threads.

And another problem looking for older threads is that sometimes thread titles are misleading. This one is quite clear, but I don't know if the older thread was (and I'm too lazy to page through the older threads to check right now. ~__^)

Rosiel
05-08-2003, 08:24 AM
> ie: a "subject search"

Click on "search" at the top of the page, then enter keywords. It will not only search the title but every single post for said keywords and highlight them in the threads.

It's easy to avoid repetitions by doing a bit of searching first. ^_^

Karisu-sama
05-08-2003, 04:02 PM
Ah! Thank you! ^___^

otome
05-08-2003, 04:30 PM
But, if one of the female gender were to crossplay a crossdressing male, what would that be considered? o_o

Koumori
05-08-2003, 05:20 PM
Originally posted by otome
But, if one of the female gender were to crossplay a crossdressing male, what would that be considered? o_o

Who cares? I cosplay Nuriko and it's just.. cosplaying. Why call it anything special?

otome
05-08-2003, 05:53 PM
Originally posted by Koumori
Who cares? I cosplay Nuriko and it's just.. cosplaying. Why call it anything special?

*shrugs* I dunno.

Menchi
05-08-2003, 06:36 PM
i dont think it matters...your cosplaying either way. male, female regardless of what gender ya are ya still are cosplaying ^^

Michi
05-08-2003, 06:51 PM
Actually, TammyKitten, I was pretty sure the question was asked in a thread you were in, hence I didn't give much of an answer. I wouldn't normally respond that way; excuse me.

otome ~ It's still "crossplay". Not many people care to go into the details of what's crossplay or not, as you can tell from Koumori's answer. The purpose of this Crossplay forum is to help with those that need help with achieveing the other gender look, or something of the sort. Yeah.

I'm hoping what I type is coherent. I haven't slept and my mind is all boggly.

Karisu-sama
05-08-2003, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by otome
But, if one of the female gender were to crossplay a crossdressing male, what would that be considered? o_o
If you actually read my post (a few above yours), I mentioned my daughter cosplaying as Nuriko.

That makes her a crossplayer as well as a cosplayer (crossplay is a subset.) However, she is NOT crossdressing when cosplaying Nuriko, because she is wearing "girl clothes".

Nuriko is the crossdresser in that case, my kid is not, since she really is a girl.

TammyKitten
05-09-2003, 10:18 PM
Thank you both for your posts, you know who you are. I am just a guy I guess looking to find himself/herself and others like myself.

Do the woman crossplayers greatly outnumber the men here?

Karisu-sama
05-10-2003, 01:28 AM
Originally posted by TammyKitten
Do the woman crossplayers greatly outnumber the men here?
I might suspect that, but I couldn't say for absolute sure. I think perhaps men crossplayers are often more quiet about it on the internet, since there is more "social stigma" attached to "a guy wearing a dress" than a woman in what could often pass for "generic costume", since women already wear pants as "regular clothes".

I do know male crossplayers who would never speak about it on a forum, for fear of the repercussions: possibly hate mail, assumptions about their sexual preferences, etc. And I know men who would perhaps try crossplay, but are afraid of the reactions of others, and so do not.

yasafusa
05-11-2003, 11:05 PM
Originally posted by Michi
Wasn't this already asked? Like a while ago?

Well, as this person only has a few posts... They're pretty new on some things, a new guy might repeat something. I've been known to "re-ask" a couple things; thanks for being so forgiving to the newbies!

Not everyone is a super cute cosplay veteran like you Michi :P

zor
05-17-2003, 06:51 PM
Originally posted by Karisu-sama
I might suspect that, but I couldn't say for absolute sure. I think perhaps men crossplayers are often more quiet about it on the internet, since there is more "social stigma" attached to "a guy wearing a dress" than a woman in what could often pass for "generic costume", since women already wear pants as "regular clothes".

I do know male crossplayers who would never speak about it on a forum, for fear of the repercussions: possibly hate mail, assumptions about their sexual preferences, etc. And I know men who would perhaps try crossplay, but are afraid of the reactions of others, and so do not.


I jave to agree Karisu-Sama. It's kinda a sad double standard we've got in this world... I don't like it at all. I went to a costume party in a "traditional costume" (meaning I went as the formal gown wearer and my date wore a tux) and we were one of two or three couples that did this (others wore typical "modern" costumes) and were guys were looked at oddly all night... Odd though, I can walk in a mall with a girl and both of us can buy the same men's jeans and it's all cool... BUT should I buy girl's jeans... it'd be a scandal... I HATE DOUBLE STANDARDS! I think CLOTHES SHOULD BE JUST CLOTHES! Let the person wearing them be the person....


~ Z o r ~

Karisu-sama
05-17-2003, 08:00 PM
Originally posted by zor
I HATE DOUBLE STANDARDS! I think CLOTHES SHOULD BE JUST CLOTHES! Let the person wearing them be the person....


Hear, hear. :dance:

zor
05-17-2003, 08:19 PM
wow ppl are already *hear hear*'ing me. ^_^ I feel special.


~ Z o r ~