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Quantum9
09-23-2007, 10:32 PM
Well, someone had to make the topic.

Plot discussion (with spoilers tags PLEASE), gamertag swaps, and thoughts on the game here.

4ng31
09-23-2007, 10:36 PM
GT - Brutal 4ngel

I'll be on...basically all night tomorrow night and all Tuesday...send the FR for some co-op or Live :D

allthatsgeek
09-23-2007, 11:03 PM
Gamertag = AllThatsGeek

Dur..

Naraku's wish
09-23-2007, 11:16 PM
GT- NSS Berserkill
Join my Godzilla clan ;D if clans are enabled~

Mesoian
09-23-2007, 11:44 PM
GT: Mesoian.

But I'm not going to the midnight showing. I'll have my copy round about 4pm tomorrow. I'll get it after class.

I remember going to the Halo 2 opening at midnight, getting the game at 2am, playing for 6 hours, sleeping for 20 minutes, then going to class, only to have there be superfluous copies at the ebgames the next day.

There will be no shortage.

But hey. 37/40 in famitsu. So yeah, at least it doesn't suck.

Bloodsin
09-23-2007, 11:46 PM
GT: Beyond Hell

going to the midnight sale

TybaltFlux
09-24-2007, 12:39 AM
GT: TybertF

I won't be playing online much, if at all. I'll be buying the game, beating it by the end of the week hopefully, then reselling it along with my 360 to pay off some cash I owe...which was from the purchase of the 360. I just wanna play it and beat it, for the sake of Halo story and gameplay goodness ;D. I suck at it for multiplayer anyways.

TheAnarCHris
09-24-2007, 10:14 AM
I work across the street from the "central" NYC Best Buy, where there's ALREADY a line for this game, 3 different Halo sports cars and trailers, banners, posters and a camera crew.

I'd be excited, if the hype for this game was beyond retarded. And maybe if I didn't play Bioshock last month. I'll be picking mine up from GS tomorrow post work (my 7-11s aren't carrying it, lol), and will have it beat by the end of the weekend most likely. And staying the hell away from Live, for I hate playing FPSes with 12 yr olds.

TybaltFlux
09-24-2007, 10:51 AM
Lines already? That clenches it for me- I didn't feel like going and waiting in line for three hours, coming back, playing for half an hour, and going to bed because I have classes the next day. Granted, NYC is a skewed demographic, cause it's NYC, but I don't doubt that it'll get at least near that insane tonight at even the smallest game shops.

I'll get mine tomorrow as well, for the sake of simplicity...but I might just spend the ten minutes driving over to check out the crazy fans going even crazier later tonight.

sam vimes
09-24-2007, 12:12 PM
Insanely overhyped and boring.

FinalEVA
09-24-2007, 12:17 PM
I'm playing it at a friend's place tomorrow night. I never really cared much for Halo, or most other FPS games to be honest. I'm probably the only 360 owner not purchasing this game.

4wheel
09-24-2007, 12:42 PM
no your not, I'm not getting it either. Just not that committed to the game

PlasmaFire
09-24-2007, 05:34 PM
Gonna go to my neighbors in the dorms to play it, because even though I'm a pretty huge Halo fan, I don't own an Xbox 360...how ironic! Yeah, the fate of PC gamers who also love console games, but can't afford the latter...

l-o-z
09-24-2007, 07:54 PM
holy crap this game is going to be fun!

I don't have xBox LIVE! because quite frankly, if the game sucks in single player, it's probably not going to be too much better online.

Mesoian
09-25-2007, 12:56 AM
And my friends list turns green....

Quantum9
09-25-2007, 01:58 AM
Just picked up my copy. I'm really happy that my disc isn't scratched (I got the Limited ($70) edition, and reports are coming in that some discs are scratched in the package, since the disc is shipped loose for some dumb reason.)

JaxReaper
09-25-2007, 07:48 AM
I don't have xBox LIVE! because quite frankly, if the game sucks in single player, it's probably not going to be too much better online.

That is so not true. Halo 2 is a great example, the single player wasn't all that great, but the multiplayer was...is awesome.

As far as 3 goes...

I'm already 2/3 done with it, I had to stop playing or I would have already beat it.

Eurobeat King
09-25-2007, 12:11 PM
I'm already 2/3 done with it, I had to stop playing or I would have already beat it.

Is the offline story-mode long? I usually don't play FPS games online (cos I suck at them) but I liked the offline-mode for H2.

My bro pre-ordered it, so sometime in October I'll go over to his place and check it out. Too busy posting convention pictures for the next couple of weeks to bother with video-games. :thumbsup:

TheAnarCHris
09-25-2007, 02:31 PM
Halo's really accessible for FPS n00bs EBK, so if you could handle Halo 2 you should have about 8-12 hours worth of single player fun for Halo 3.

You should also look into Bioshock if you already haven't, and the upcoming Half Life:Orange Box if you're into single player shooters.

Bloodsin
09-25-2007, 05:25 PM
Beat it and have to say it definatly met its expectations for me at least. I was a really big halo fan and halo 2 was kind of a dissapointment storymode wise. But after playing through this one, im definatly happy with it.

hentaigirl82
09-25-2007, 07:48 PM
I got in line around 9:30 and the line was already forming.The gamestop gave out free pizza,wings,soda,redbull etc... was about 60 ppl in line waiting. Anywhos the game is freakin amazing.The graphics really stand out alot espically if you have a hd tv. I was up till 4am playing had to be at work at 8am. If you got the legendary version the helmet is so nice, if only I could wear it

JaxReaper
09-25-2007, 11:56 PM
I have to say, my initial reaction to the campaign was not that great, but I was playing split-screen co-op with a buddy of mine...on normal. I got online and played 2 player co-op with my brother, on legendary, and had a much better experience. The only gripes I have, as far as campaign goes anyway, is that, with the exception of the Master Chief and The Arbitor, the characters looked like crap in cinema scenes, and I don't think the AI was all that much better than Halo 2.

Well, no, the AI was better than in H2, but that isn't really saying all that much. Overall I like to campagin thus far.

Now on to the multiplayer...j/k

I'll save that for another day. After almost 22-23 non stop H3 hours, with the exception of bathroom breaks and food of course, I think I should probably go to bed.

TybaltFlux
09-26-2007, 12:10 AM
How many hours are you, the ones who have beaten the game, clocking in at, outta curiosity?

Cpl.Shepard
09-26-2007, 12:57 AM
I think me and my friends playing 4 player coop beat it in on heroic about 5 hours, took a little longer on Legendary.

a little short, but extremely awesome, I'm not gonna spoil anything, but the story lived up to my expectations, lots of interesting twsists, and if you beat on legendary there is something after the credits that will leave you going "hmmm..."

I do have to say there is a huge difference in difficulty, when they say easy, they mean really easy, if you want to have a good time I suggest going into heroic or legendary with a couple of friends, the AI is a hell of alot better on the two harder difficulties.

however, it's clear that they put more work into multiplayer than singleplayer which disappointed me a bit, I would much rather play through more a longer campaign with a coupe of friends, then have a bunch of 12 year olds and self proclaimed "MLG"s making comments about my mother because of the way I drive a warthog or what weapon I like to use...

derelict_
09-26-2007, 03:16 AM
Played the first mission today at my work lol. I sold like 50 freakin copies of Halo 3 today haha. Graphics look really beautiful and the game play is relatively engrossing. I heard that theres only roughly 10-14 hours of single player play on normal mode which kind of sucks. I accidentally found out the ending of it a while back so I don't really want to buy an xbox 360 just for that game lol... and bioshock and assassin's creed etc. Meh I don't really like the multiplayer for halo anyway. The midnight release over at the GameStop that I work at was kind of pathetic. There were barely 50 people and they didn't seem excited at all lol. Hopefully I can leech off someone's 360 in the future and beat the game just for the story lol.

Mesoian
09-26-2007, 03:16 AM
The only complaint I have about the game is that while the enemy AI is superb, the friendly AI is dumber than a sack of rocks.

SoulCrash
09-26-2007, 08:09 AM
Call me a pussy.. (can I say that on the forums??) but I'm playing the game on EASY. -.-... Cause I JUST WANT TO FINISH THAT DAMN FIGHT without dying.. that and.. I just suck...... I'm not kidding... Cause I spent most of my time driving...

Anyways my GT = The SoulCrash

TheAnarCHris
09-26-2007, 09:42 AM
The only complaint I have about the game is that while the enemy AI is superb, the friendly AI is dumber than a sack of rocks.

WORD. The marines make Dom from "Gears" look like a freakin genius.

The single player feels like more of the same, which really isn't a bad thing, for I have a giant hammer, and the 3rd person mode is kinda neat when you get a mounted weapon. The game also look nice, and I'm dying to play it on my friend's gianormous HDTV.

Eurobeat King
09-26-2007, 01:46 PM
Did anyone get the Legendary Edition that includes all that extra stuff? If so, was it worth the extra $$?

Also, did anyone (for those who don't already own a 360) get the green Halo 3 console that they've been advertising?

Malicious
09-26-2007, 04:09 PM
i'll have to wait a while for halo 3...since i don't own an xbox 360....too much money. but i am a halo fan. man that game can be soo addicting.... i would play slayer for hours. i don't like to know too much about the game, i want to stay excited. but I have seen the new weapons in game mags tho... it looks like alot of fun, but like i said.... i'll have to wait.. ;__;

hentaigirl82
09-26-2007, 04:43 PM
Did anyone get the Legendary Edition that includes all that extra stuff? If so, was it worth the extra $$?

Also, did anyone (for those who don't already own a 360) get the green Halo 3 console that they've been advertising?


I got the legendary edition, and I think it was well worth it. I was shocked how big the box was. You get the fully sculpted spartan helemet,bonus disc that has documentaries,halo themed 5.1 hdtv calibration tool,remastered cinematics,digital guide to creatures and worlds of halo 3,cortana chronicles,and machinima eps from red vs blue.

JaxReaper
09-26-2007, 11:40 PM
... if you beat on legendary there is something after the credits that will leave you going "hmmm..."


I should have expected as much...I kinda didn't wait...stupid me. :lost:

Did anyone get the Legendary Edition that includes all that extra stuff? If so, was it worth the extra $$?

Also, did anyone (for those who don't already own a 360) get the green Halo 3 console that they've been advertising?

I got the legendary edition, and I think it's more that worth it. Everyone kept telling me the helmet was gonna be the size of your fist, what a bunch of morons. It's as big as my head...who cares if my head is the size of a normal person's fist...lol, nah it's really nice though.

A buddy of mine got the green 360, but only because they were out of stock of the regular platinum ones. I'm glad it wasn't me. I can't stand the design, it makes me wanna puke.

SoulCrash
09-27-2007, 12:17 AM
if you beat on legendary there is something after the credits that will leave you going "hmmm...".

Well, I beat the game on easy.....

And did you get this ending after the credits... *SPOILER!!!*

You see Master Chief and Cortana inside half of the ship... Then Master Chief put Cortana in that thingy... And the Chief said it'll be years till they find them... And he goes back to chronological *whatever it's called* sleep...

Is there multiple endings for this game???

Mesoian
09-27-2007, 01:19 AM
Nope. But I forgot to watch after the ending. Again. For the 3rd halo in a row.

I'll have to go back and look at that.

A few people joined up with me to play the campaign on legendary a little earlier. Asses, handed to us. Wasn't even cute.

4ng31
09-27-2007, 12:28 PM
Well, I beat the game on easy.....

And did you get this ending after the credits... *SPOILER!!!*

You see Master Chief and Cortana inside half of the ship... Then Master Chief put Cortana in that thingy... And the Chief said it'll be years till they find them... And he goes back to chronological *whatever it's called* sleep...

Is there multiple endings for this game???

There is an extra scene at the end of that if you beat it on legendary. And honestly, I hate it because:

This is supposed to be the last Halo...the last of the trilogy. With the final ending there...it's obviously not...but I really shouldn't be that surprised...it is Microsoft.

Mesoian
09-27-2007, 04:10 PM
I'm screaming when I play online. Which means I'm having fun.

TybaltFlux
09-27-2007, 05:35 PM
That was fun. Short, but fun. End-all-be-all of games? No (and I only say that not to start a flame war or anything but in simple opiniated response to the community that considers it that). It's definately good though.

As far as the extra scene goes...

I haven't seen it, but GI had a nice little article about how a FPS for the Mac, back in the 90's, is considered to be the actual sequel to Halo. More like, Halo is the prequel, because the protagonists both share a lot of similarities, including armor type and stuff. If I had the magazine with me, I could give a better explanation.

Maybe it's Bungie's way of giving a nod off to that game- that, or just leaving the door open in case they run out of cash or something and need another cow to milk.

4ng31
09-27-2007, 07:11 PM
I haven't seen it, but GI had a nice little article about how a FPS for the Mac, back in the 90's

That game was called Marathon. There are armor variants in Halo 3 based off of the Marathon armor suits.

Also, has anyone been messing around with the theatre yet? Took a couple still stores last night...

My Spartan (http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/1746/586068fullgu7.jpg)

1080p is awesome XD (http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/7942/586135fulltw0.jpg)

Pliskin
09-27-2007, 07:28 PM
1080p is awesome XD (http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/7942/586135fulltw0.jpg)

*Cringe* too bad its 640p. Sorry, sorry, I'll leave now, don't wanna crash everyone's party. Its an awesome game, yes I know, but there are certain things that make it less technologically impressive, IMHO.

4ng31
09-27-2007, 08:09 PM
*Cringe* too bad its 640p. Sorry, sorry, I'll leave now, don't wanna crash everyone's party. Its an awesome game, yes I know, but there are certain things that make it less technologically impressive, IMHO.

So, an image that is sized at 1920x1080 (*cough* resolution *cough*) is 640p. You might want to go do a little research...I mean hell, that doesn't even make sense...lol.

*~Antagonist~*
09-27-2007, 09:14 PM
GT - QuahogClam87

I haven't been playing as much as I want to, due to school and work blah. I think I might skip classes friday and stay in my room and beat the game.
I really like forge mode, it's cool how you can just create things in random places, and access to everything avaliable to that map, including respawn points.

Pliskin
09-27-2007, 10:37 PM
So, an image that is sized at 1920x1080 (*cough* resolution *cough*) is 640p. You might want to go do a little research...I mean hell, that doesn't even make sense...lol.

Long and the short of it, Halo 3 renders at 640p. The scaling chip in the 360 scales the resolution from 1138 x 640 ish to 720p or in this case, 1080p. So while its nice and dandy that it displays at 1080p, its the same logic as upscaling a DVD to 1080p.

I suggest researching things yourself before belittling others.:angel2:

4ng31
09-27-2007, 10:57 PM
Long and the short of it, Halo 3 renders at 640p. The scaling chip in the 360 scales the resolution from 1138 x 640 ish to 720p or in this case, 1080p. So while its nice and dandy that it displays at 1080p, its the same logic as upscaling a DVD to 1080p.

I suggest researching things yourself before belittling others.:angel2:

And so I imagine that my HD-DVD doesn't play movies in HD either, right...:rolleyes:

And while we're on the subject, I'm still waiting for all those 1080p capable PS3 games...

Mesoian
09-27-2007, 11:44 PM
::Steps in before this gets ugly::

It's true, Halo 3's native resolution is 720p (not 1080, not 640p [wtf is 640p?]). The 360's scaler (one of the better ones on the market BTW) upscales the 720p signal into a 1080p resolution in real time. What does this mean for you? Nothing really. The fun thing about Bungie's rendercapture system is that the file data saved is actual game data (positional data) rather than a movie. So when you output the video/pictures onto bungie's website for distrobution like everyone has, it IS a true 1080p picture/video. But yes, when you are playing on a television, even if you're using an HDMI cable on a 1080p ready television, it is an upscaled signal.

But seriously, your eye probably won't be able to tell the difference in the long run.

The HD-DVD player however DOES play at 1080p natively, as long as you're using the HDMI cable. The video media on the disc is made to run at 1080p with no upscaling what-so-ever.

Scaling isn't something to really fear. Both the PS3 and the x360 use their internal scalers to upscale smaller media used in both games and...well normal media to a 1080p resolution. (Ironically, the PS3 still has the best scaler chip on the market, besting more expensive sony DVR units that SHOULD do a better job, but don't).

In the end, it's not a huge deal. So don't worry about it. I take more offense to the new damn melee combo online then the native resolution of the video (playing on a 420p connection).

Archelon
09-28-2007, 03:46 PM
Has anyone unlocked the Shredder... I mean, Ryu Hayabusa helmet and shoulder pads? I've seen pics of them online, but wasn't sure if you can turn off the flames that emanate from said helmet or not.

ilovetidus
09-28-2007, 04:50 PM
GT: Exodus 23 2

Halo 3 is awesome! I got a legendary Halo 3 (the helmet is AWESOME) and I got a Limited edition one to (me, my bro, and my dad play lol) I play online a lot, so add me if you want. I am a really good Halo 2 player, but I'm still getting used to H3. I just can't believe how many different things they have on H3, it's amazing and the graphics are really good. I like how you could get different armor and stuff. I already beat campaign, I got like 4 or 5 helmets and different armor pads and chest pl8.

evaunit01berser
09-28-2007, 07:09 PM
And while we're on the subject, I'm still waiting for all those 1080p capable PS3 games...

what does this have to do with ps3?
are you trying to start a fanperson war?

Mesoian
09-28-2007, 07:12 PM
Stop poking the defused argument with a stick.

Pliskin
09-28-2007, 07:34 PM
::Steps in before this gets ugly::

It's true, Halo 3's native resolution is 720p (not 1080, not 640p [wtf is 640p?]). The 360's scaler (one of the better ones on the market BTW) upscales the 720p signal into a 1080p resolution in real time. What does this mean for you? Nothing really. The fun thing about Bungie's rendercapture system is that the file data saved is actual game data (positional data) rather than a movie. So when you output the video/pictures onto bungie's website for distrobution like everyone has, it IS a true 1080p picture/video. But yes, when you are playing on a television, even if you're using an HDMI cable on a 1080p ready television, it is an upscaled signal.

But seriously, your eye probably won't be able to tell the difference in the long run.

The HD-DVD player however DOES play at 1080p natively, as long as you're using the HDMI cable. The video media on the disc is made to run at 1080p with no upscaling what-so-ever.

Scaling isn't something to really fear. Both the PS3 and the x360 use their internal scalers to upscale smaller media used in both games and...well normal media to a 1080p resolution. (Ironically, the PS3 still has the best scaler chip on the market, besting more expensive sony DVR units that SHOULD do a better job, but don't).

In the end, it's not a huge deal. So don't worry about it. I take more offense to the new damn melee combo online then the native resolution of the video (playing on a 420p connection).

Thank you. I didn't mean to come in and start a flame war, it just grates on me a little when something is natively HD and something isn't. Anyway, back to gaming.

Mesoian
09-29-2007, 01:50 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/Mesoian/1235375-Full.jpg

My first picture

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/Mesoian/1247267-Full.jpg

SHUT THE FUCK UP! I KNOW WHERE I'M GOING!!!

FinalEVA
09-29-2007, 08:11 AM
PS3 & 360 arguments aside, I very much enjoyed playing Halo 3 with my buddies tonight. I've avoided this game like the plague in the past, but I'm beginning to really like it alot, and will probably purchase it soon. Maybe I'm finally warming up to games that have about zero Japanese-ness.

Archelon
09-29-2007, 10:25 AM
Bungie comments on the 640p "scandal":

One item making the interwebs rounds this week was the scandalous revelation that Halo 3 runs at "640p" which isn't even technically a resolution. However, the interweb detectives did notice that Halo 3's vertical resolution, when captured from a frame buffer, is indeed 640 pixels. So what gives? Did we short change you 80 pixels? Naturally it's more complicated than that. In fact, you could argue we gave you 1280 pixels of vertical resolution, since Halo 3 uses not one, but two frame buffers - both of which render at 1152x640 pixels. The reason we chose this slightly unorthodox resolution and this very complex use of two buffers is simple enough to see - lighting. We wanted to preserve as much dynamic range as possible - so we use one for the high dynamic range and one for the low dynamic range values. Both are combined to create the finished on screen image. This ability to display a full range of HDR, combined with our advanced lighting, material and postprocessing engine, gives our scenes, large and small, a compelling, convincing and ultimately "real" feeling, and at a steady and smooth frame rate, which in the end was far more important to us than the ability to display a few extra pixels. Making this decision simpler still is the fact that the 360 scales the "almost-720p" image effortlessly all the way up to 1080p if you so desire. In fact, if you do a comparison shot between the native 1152x640 image and the scaled 1280x720, it's practically impossible to discern the difference. We would ignore it entirely were it not for the internet's propensity for drama where none exists. In fact the reason we haven't mentioned this before in weekly updates, is the simple fact that it would have distracted conversation away from more important aspects of the game, and given tinfoil hats some new gristle to chew on as they catalogued their toenail clippings.

Credit goes to Kotaku.

Pliskin
09-29-2007, 11:09 AM
Bungie comments on the 640p "scandal":



Credit goes to Kotaku.

Beyond3d's Reply, Emphasis mine:

The example is there to discredit the Bungiepoint that you can argue they give 1280p vertical resolution because they're rendering two 640p buffers. If that is a valid metric, KZ2 can be measured as 2880p (going by MJP's numbers) which I'm sure we all regard as preposterous, so we can thus conclude the idea of H3 being a '1280p' render is an argument that ends in the negative. Although the KZ2 buffers aren't full buffers. We don't know what exactly Bungie are rendering, and it could be they are actually rendering the whole screen twice. But that would be extremely weird and inefficient!

IE. Bungie is STILL not giving the whole picture. If a game isn't HD, then don't put it on the box. All the fake indignation and haughty attitude at Bungie is just a smokscreen.

JaxReaper
09-29-2007, 01:23 PM
I thought Microsoft announced long ago that they didn't think HD games were important, and that's why the HD drive was sold as an add on, and only actually plays DVDs.

It's kind of funny that a Microsoft owned studio would then develop an "HD" game.

Maybe I'm just remembering incorrectly, but I could have sworn they said that.

Mesoian
09-29-2007, 02:04 PM
Well, that argument was more along the lines of stating that 1080p as a resolution for gaming is useless at this point due to the fact that, 1.) Most TV's don't support it and 2.) It uses up too much space with uncompressed textures. Though the real reason was, at the time, the 360 couldn't output a 1080p signal without HDMI. With the new 360's on the market, that's now possible, but again, even on the PS3, there aren't a whole lot of games made natively for 1080p and the scalers still bump game visuals up to the higher resolutions. A bit of a different argument.

Though let's say that Bungie didn't put the fact that it was HD on the box. Would anyone not have bought it because of that?

Archelon
09-30-2007, 02:42 PM
Well, I finally took the plunge.

Into the deep end.

The video game store where I work is closing in less than two weeks, so everything is discounted until then (and this is in addition to my employee discount), and since we had six left over that weren't preordered, I picked up the Legendary Edition of Halo 3 yesterday.

I am weak-willed.

EDIT: I forgot to give congratulations to cosplay.com's very own MsValentine for having her awesome Cortana cosplay displayed in the Bonus Materials!

Mesoian
09-30-2007, 03:49 PM
heh. one of us. one of us.

I don't know if this has been stated yet, but if you're not playing this game on Heroic, you're doing it wrong. If you are playing on easy or normal, you definitely need to play on HEroic when you're done. The game feels completely different as the sheer intellegence of the enemies skyrockets so much. It's tough, but fair, and on Heroic, the campaign feels solid and concise, rather than a short 8 hour romp that you can take down in a weekend.

Archelon
10-04-2007, 02:51 PM
http://kotaku.com/gaming/this-is-madness/halo-3-makes-300-million-console-sales-double-307016.php Halo 3 made $300 million for Microsoft within its first week alone. It's also single-handedly doubled the 360's average weekly sales.

Makes you wonder what the people (*cough*Pliskin*cough*) who said, "Halo 3 won't increase sales of the 360, because everyone who wants Halo 3 already has a 360," have to say now.

And I'm sure I'll find out. >.>

Taken from Microsoft's Press Release:

Xbox 360 has the greatest line-up in the history of video games

Talk about a bit of a stretch.

TheAnarCHris
10-04-2007, 03:06 PM
Taken from Microsoft's Press Release:



Talk about a bit of a stretch.

You left out the part where it states it's the only system where you can play the "blockbuster" game this holiday season.

Apparently, Smash Bros and Mario aren't Triple AAA title anymore. Clearly it sucks to be Nintendo.

Pliskin
10-04-2007, 05:27 PM
http://kotaku.com/gaming/this-is-madness/halo-3-makes-300-million-console-sales-double-307016.php Halo 3 made $300 million for Microsoft within its first week alone. It's also single-handedly doubled the 360's average weekly sales.

Makes you wonder what the people (*cough*Pliskin*cough*) who said, "Halo 3 won't increase sales of the 360, because everyone who wants Halo 3 already has a 360," have to say now.

And I'm sure I'll find out. >.>

Taken from Microsoft's Press Release:



Talk about a bit of a stretch.

Ya knooow. I was going to stay out of this thread, until you had to go and open your mouth like that.

For someone who went all pissy and blocked me on AIM, you sure do talk a lot of smack when I'm not around.

Doubling sales /= millions of consoles like some industry analysts claim. PS3 sales quadrupled shortly after the first price cut, remember that?

Furthermore, how long before the well dries up? MS is still sidestepping an important issue. Halo 3 didn't outsell Halo 2 in units sold on launch day.

4ng31
10-04-2007, 07:18 PM
. PS3 sales quadrupled shortly after the first price cut, remember that?

Well, that's what happens when no one bought them in the first place...and what happened after everyone learned that it was just another Sony trick and that once they were gone, that was it. O yeah, they stopped selling again.

Pliskin
10-04-2007, 08:02 PM
Well, that's what happens when no one bought them in the first place...and what happened after everyone learned that it was just another Sony trick and that once they were gone, that was it. O yeah, they stopped selling again.

And people think I'm a fanboy...

If you'd like to try that stuff on me in AIM, you know my s/n.

4ng31
10-04-2007, 10:03 PM
And people think I'm a fanboy...

If you'd like to try that stuff on me in AIM, you know my s/n.

Actually I own a PS3 and 360...I'm just throwing out facts. And secondly, no, I don't know your AIM...honestly, don't care to know it either.

Pliskin
10-04-2007, 11:14 PM
Actually I own a PS3 and 360...I'm just throwing out facts. And secondly, no, I don't know your AIM...honestly, don't care to know it either.

You're trolling. See that little AIM icon under my name, click that if you want to continue this discussion. Otherwise, actually learn what you're talking about, and come back when you've grown-up.

4ng31
10-05-2007, 01:28 AM
You're trolling. See that little AIM icon under my name, click that if you want to continue this discussion. Otherwise, actually learn what you're talking about, and come back when you've grown-up.

I'm trolling? What exactly do you call this?

Doubling sales /= millions of consoles like some industry analysts claim. PS3 sales quadrupled shortly after the first price cut, remember that?

Furthermore, how long before the well dries up? MS is still sidestepping an important issue. Halo 3 didn't outsell Halo 2 in units sold on launch day.

Also, how many of us were complaining about it not being in HD before you mentioned it? Also, how many of us were talking about how H2 outsold H3 before you mentioned it?

Hmmm...

Pretty sure that didn't add anything to the discussion that is actually useful. And what's your problem? Pissed off because someone besides you is right? Go beat Resistance for the 20th time and GTFO of this thread.

FinalEVA
10-05-2007, 04:13 AM
PS3 vs 360 / Wii60 fanboy wars are about as bad as SNES vs. Genesis back in the day, if anyone remembers.

Halo 3 is an awesome game, but there could have been improvements on the graphics, IMO. It definitely didn't do what the 360 was capable of.

X360 has a stronger line-up now, but there are some awesome PS3 titles coming out next year.

PS3 went from about 80k / month in US to about 160k / month after price cut. August, it did about 130k / month. About a 60% increase going from $600 to $500.

In Japan, Wii was outselling PS3 6:1 in Japan this summer and now outselling the PS3 around 2:1. Wii sales massively declined (and they are well in supply over there), and PS3 sales went up slightly on average from before.

Wii is outselling both PS3 and X360 in all three general regions (JPN, NA, and PAL). Xbox 360 is outselling PS3 in America, PS3 is outselling Xbox 360 in Japan, and Xbox 360 and PS3 are close to the same in PAL regions, with maybe slight favoring to 360 in the last few weeks. However, major price cuts on the PS3 are about to descend on the PAL region in the next week (confirmed by every retailer over there). Research it on the internet if you are curious.

This generation, PS3/360 are marketing to a different group than Wii is. There will be competition in this gen as well.

Gamers will be smiling, fanboys will be cryin'.

FinalEVA out.

derelict_
10-05-2007, 06:20 AM
I'm trolling? What exactly do you call this?



Also, how many of us were complaining about it not being in HD before you mentioned it? Also, how many of us were talking about how H2 outsold H3 before you mentioned it?

Hmmm...

Pretty sure that didn't add anything to the discussion that is actually useful. And what's your problem? Pissed off because someone besides you is right? Go beat Resistance for the 20th time and GTFO of this thread.

rofl qft!

Archelon
10-05-2007, 04:02 PM
Ya knooow. I was going to stay out of this thread

So then why exactly did you stop by to "enlighten" everyone about Bungie's lies regarding HD?

Pliskin
10-05-2007, 06:20 PM
So then why exactly did you stop by to "enlighten" everyone about Bungie's lies regarding HD?

Because its true isn't it? Its quantifiable.

I fail to see how Halo 3 has "ZOMG INCREDIBLE GRAPHICS" if the lighting system has the most overdone bloom lighting, and it lacking any Anti-aliasing. Resistance had both... on PS3... at launch. *gasp* But the graphics were apparently "not breathtaking enough" for next-gen.

There are MANY things to compliment Halo on. Graphics isn't one of them.

Go beat Resistance for the 20th time and GTFO of this thread.

See that's the difference between you and me. I can actually play a game for a long length of time without having to worrying about 3 flashing red lights staring back at me.

4ng31
10-05-2007, 06:54 PM
See that's the difference between you and me. I can actually play a game for a long length of time without having to worrying about 3 flashing red lights staring back at me.

Funny...I've owned my core since launch day...but yet the graphics card went out in my 20 gig PS3...crazy right?

And I love how you mention the whole "at launch day" statement. How dare we forget the PS3 launched a whole year later than the 360 did. Compare games in that same yearly time frame (aka, Gears of War and Resistance) and lets see which has better graphics, gameplay, online structure...hell, everything.

Pliskin
10-05-2007, 07:56 PM
Funny...I've owned my core since launch day...but yet the graphics card went out in my 20 gig PS3...crazy right?

And I love how you mention the whole "at launch day" statement. How dare we forget the PS3 launched a whole year later than the 360 did. Compare games in that same yearly time frame (aka, Gears of War and Resistance) and lets see which has better graphics, gameplay, online structure...hell, everything.

Hint: Both Halo 3 and Resistance don't compare to Gears graphically.

How about we not segway the thread any further with this argument? I said before, if you want to prove you're right so badly, contact me through AIM. Otherwise, I won't be arguing with you.

demifiend
10-05-2007, 10:00 PM
I didn't like it and, for the first time ever, the positive noise for a video game is starting to irritate me badly.
This game has gotten lavish reviews from the gaming press over... what? It's the same damn gameplay style from five years ago. They added a fingerful of new weapons, threw in a dash of new vehicles, completed a story that was never terribly innovative or deep, pressed it to a disc that they sold for $59.99, or $129.99 if you wanted to slap a drab-looking Master Chief helmet on your neurotic cat. The graphics (I don't want to step into this minefield, but I have to), are okay, but the level of detail is nothing compared to something like Bioshock. Oh, I didn't notice a glut of new enemies either.
I've heard garbage like "well, it's Halo, it's a solid shooter". Thats all well and good, but solid shooters utterly devoid of any new ideas or gameplay innovations, or even a noticable increase in features from the last TWO games does not deserve a perfect score. Even worse are the people who claim "well, the single player isn't very good, but the multiplayer is awesome!" Wrong! A 'perfect' game should require no excuses. If one of the two gameplay modes is weak, the game should be called out for it by more than just a raving idiot like me on a message board.
The freakish success of this game has dulled my faith in the American video gamer. While they call Japanese fans out for playing the same types of games over and over, here we have a large group of gamers that are the GTA/Madden/Halo crowd, who obediently pay full price for a game that is in no appreciable way different than it's five predecessors.
After Bioshock, these kinds of braindead, overhyped clones should not be tolerated. American developers can make intelligent and original games. But as long as their potential customers keep buying deriviative crap like Halo 3, they won't be making too many of them.

/rantoff

JaxReaper
10-05-2007, 11:47 PM
...or $129.99 if you wanted to slap a drab-looking Master Chief helmet on your neurotic cat.

/rantoff

Just to let you know, the helmet is the size of a human head. A person cannot wear it because of it's design, but it is not the size of a cats head. It sits on a base, and you can remove it from the base and the games store inside it.

Now, I agree that Halo 3 is kind of a let down. I almost prefer Halo 2 multiplayer to H3, but I prefer the H3 campaign over H2. The graphics aren't great, they could have done a much better job making the people look...I dunno...like real people.

Bungie hyped Forge to be like the greatest thing since sliced bread. I would rather they left it out. They made it seem like you could do a lot more that you actually can. If you call something a "map editor," it should be able to edit the damn map, not just the objects on it. Oh, and how about make everything available on every map. Oh, I can add a computer to Sand Trap, but not to Last Resort? WTF?

If any of you have Halo 3 look up my file share(gt:Jax Reaper), and download the video clip named, "Explain this BS." I snipe a guy, he takes no damage, and he snipes be a half a second later and I die. Funny, I submitted the question for Bungie.net's "Ultra Q&A" and would you beleive they didn't answer the question.

Even still, I have played through campaign 3 times, with plans on at least one more run through, and will continue to play multiplayer until I find another game to fill my time.

SoulCrash
10-06-2007, 10:28 AM
If any of you have Halo 3 look up my file share(gt:Jax Reaper), and download the video clip named, "Explain this BS." I snipe a guy, he takes no damage, and he snipes be a half a second later and I die. Funny, I submitted the question for Bungie.net's "Ultra Q&A" and would you beleive they didn't answer the question.

..I watch your "Explain this BS." clip a couple of times.... I got to say... "WTF??? That's the power of lag of ya.." (even though I don't see any lag)..

You thought that was bad enough.. you should see this one guy killing everyone when the match is laggest of lag you'll ever see!!!..

Look at my video clip "Lag Pwning????" Under the GT: "The SoulCrash"

Archelon
10-06-2007, 12:55 PM
Holy crap!

Nathan Fillion, Alan Tudyk, and Adam Baldwin are in this game?!

Bloodsin
10-06-2007, 01:27 PM
u forgot Ron Pearlman

Archelon
10-06-2007, 01:32 PM
u forgot Ron Pearlman

No, I knew he was in there, but he wasn't in Firefly.

Malicious
10-06-2007, 03:09 PM
..I watch your "Explain this BS." clip a couple of times.... I got to say... "WTF??? That's the power of lag of ya.." (even though I don't see any lag)..

oh man.... i still haven't played H3, but i remember how laggy alot of connections were for H2. is there any way to improve that problem?

Mesoian
10-07-2007, 03:55 PM
..I watch your "Explain this BS." clip a couple of times.... I got to say... "WTF??? That's the power of lag of ya.." (even though I don't see any lag)..

You thought that was bad enough.. you should see this one guy killing everyone when the match is laggest of lag you'll ever see!!!..

Look at my video clip "Lag Pwning????" Under the GT: "The SoulCrash"

It's just lag. if you look in my file share, you'll see a capture the flag match, in which if you watch it from my prospective, its one thing, and if you watch from another guy's prospective, it's something completely different for a good 2 minutes.

Archelon
10-07-2007, 04:00 PM
Man, Bungie can't model normal human characters to save their lives. The aliens and Master Chief are excellent, but the humans... eh...

On the whole, though, I really must say this is one beautiful game, even after months of calling it a "shinier Halo 2." This word has been used a lot, particularly by the PR folks, but the improvements are subtle. I almost liken it to the switch from Ninja Gaiden to Ninja Gaiden Sigma or Ninja Gaiden 2.

The humans characters, on the other hand, really aren't much of an improvement (if at all) over Halo 2.