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Ororo Howlett
01-24-2008, 04:45 PM
http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/682331/80_Gig_PS3_Discontinued.html

I guess they've given up on backwards compatibilty. That sucks. Looks like I'll be buying one earlier than I planned.

FinalEVA
01-24-2008, 06:57 PM
I fear the outcome of this thread

But anyway, that's what it seems. It's been pretty weird this generation with SCE. Even though I do personally enjoy my PS3 more than the other console (I'm not a big Halo/FPS fan), I think Sony really needs to stick with something and stay with it.

For full hardware BC, I'd try to find a 60 gig if you can. All my PS2 games have worked 100%.

new_ike
01-24-2008, 07:06 PM
*shrugs*
it doesn't affect me too much, as I was able to get a used 60gb, but I imagine that it does indeed suck.

But then again, I can kinda see where they might be coming from. With Blu-Ray gaining more and more ground and potentially becoming THE next-gen media format (therefore making the PS3 more like the PS2 in terms of appeal [I know i bought mine both as a console and a dvd player]), they don't have to lean as hard on the whole "look! play your old games on this fancy new box!" angle.

But it's not completely bad so long as they take the proper precautions, i.e. bringing the whole PS1 and PS2 catalogs up to PSN as downloadable content.

FinalEVA
01-24-2008, 08:04 PM
Yeah, when I first bought my PS3, I was spending alot of time playing PS2 games back in February. These days, I'm not really playing PS2 games as much as the PS3 games are coming out. The nice thing is the uspcaling to HDTV. If it wasn't for that, I probably wouldn't mind just having a PS2.

Mesoian
01-24-2008, 10:34 PM
Why put in BWC when you can just have people buy yet another iteration of the PS2? That seems to be Sony's way of thinking at this point.

Anyway, the official story from sony is that the 80 gig is still being made, but Best Buy doesn't want to carry them because the 20 and 40 gig units outsell them due to their lower pricepoint. Pair this with the rumored 100 dollar price cut for the 40 gigs taking place this summer (spring?) and it all leads to sony making a more aggressive marketing strategy.

Still though, Sony, seriously, if you don't want to do it through hardware, do it through software. If M$ can do it, you can do it (M$'s BWC contains about 75% of all xbox 1 games now)

FinalEVA
01-24-2008, 10:52 PM
Why put in BWC when you can just have people buy yet another iteration of the PS2? That seems to be Sony's way of thinking at this point.

Anyway, the official story from sony is that the 80 gig is still being made, but Best Buy doesn't want to carry them because the 20 and 40 gig units outsell them due to their lower pricepoint. Pair this with the rumored 100 dollar price cut for the 40 gigs taking place this summer (spring?) and it all leads to sony making a more aggressive marketing strategy.

Still though, Sony, seriously, if you don't want to do it through hardware, do it through software. If M$ can do it, you can do it (M$'s BWC contains about 75% of all xbox 1 games now)

Most people I know that work at retailers were saying that 80 gigs were selling more. The 40 gig uses 65 nm and 60 less watts, while the 80 gig is still on the 90 nm.

http://gizmodo.com/348544/rumor-best-buy-dumping-80gb-ps3-will-only-sell-40gb-version

Japan and Europe now only have the 40 gig models, so it's not surprising seeing it happen here. However, there maybe a 120 gig or something in the pipeline. If they are going to do it, they should just have one model with full h/w PS2 compatability with the bigger hard drive at $500 and the 40 gig barebones at $400.

There are some rumors of price-cuts of the 40 gig to $300 as early Monday, but I'm thinking it's not going to happen. You never know, Sony did get the production costs down to $400 from the $800 it was from launch.

EDIT: Apparently they will be announcing something soon in the Playstation Blog.
http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/50938

Quantum9
01-24-2008, 11:16 PM
Well, there goes more chances of me getting a 60 GB by the end of the year on the cheap.

new_ike
01-25-2008, 12:23 AM
Well, there goes more chances of me getting a 60 GB by the end of the year on the cheap.

You never know, you could still find one, then...there's always someone who needs to cash in some goods, you know?
(Oh god, i sound so sketchy, sorry)

TybaltFlux
01-25-2008, 12:44 AM
Every system discontinuation or upgrade seems to carry a rumor of a price drop with it. Kinda like Newton's law but for video game systems.

Anyways, I think priced at $299, the system would be really affordable and attractive. Sony has the money to burn, and it'd help them win the crucial next-gen battle of the video formats via the blu-ray. So, I think it's completely plausible.

Even smarter would be to wait for Metal Gear Solid 4 to breka the price then, because we all know that the game is going to attract lots of customers, MGS fanboys or not.

FinalEVA
01-25-2008, 01:16 AM
Every system discontinuation or upgrade seems to carry a rumor of a price drop with it. Kinda like Newton's law but for video game systems.

Anyways, I think priced at $299, the system would be really affordable and attractive. Sony has the money to burn, and it'd help them win the crucial next-gen battle of the video formats via the blu-ray. So, I think it's completely plausible.

Even smarter would be to wait for Metal Gear Solid 4 to breka the price then, because we all know that the game is going to attract lots of customers, MGS fanboys or not.

I think before GTA IV (April 29th, confirmed today) it will happen, along with MS dropping the Premium price to $300. This is going to be the battle between the two companies in the West. Sony (company as a whole) has been showing more profitable quarters than last year, so I think they can stand another pricecut. I think they will have to wait until the PS4 to recover all the losses. I'm willing to bet it will be more conservatively designed and possibly break-even from launch.

TybaltFlux
01-25-2008, 01:43 AM
I think before GTA IV (April 29th, confirmed today) it will happen, along with MS dropping the Premium price to $300. This is going to be the battle between the two companies in the West. Sony (company as a whole) has been showing more profitable quarters than last year, so I think they can stand another pricecut. I think they will have to wait until the PS4 to recover all the losses. I'm willing to bet it will be more conservatively designed and possibly break-even from launch.

From what I recall, Sony and/or M$ were saying that the next-gen won't happen for another seven years, at least for those two companies.. I guess that's enough time for them to lean from their mistakes, as well as possibly having one of them drop out of the running.

But anyways, I agree- GTA IV is definately a big date for the Western battle frontier. I don't think M$ will drop that drastically, especially since their numbers were doing fine from what I last checked. It gives Sony even more reason to drop the price for their 40-gig to a very compelling $349, or an even more competitive $299.

Smuffy
01-25-2008, 02:46 PM
Just bought my 80 gig. Maybe I should have waited, would have seen a price drop :P