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Quantum9
02-26-2008, 11:42 PM
With the game a few weeks away and the fact that it is indeed a Final Fantasy VII game, I suppose this is the right time to make a topic.

So who's buying? Initial reports are that this is the best installment in the Compilation series yet (not a hard feat to accomplish, mind you), which really gives a ton more backstory on the series. The cutscenes are plentiful and long, but it's frigging FFVII, what do you expect?

And yes, Bloodsin, before you start asking, Sephiroth is in the game.

GyrfalconAH64D
02-27-2008, 03:34 AM
I'm definitely gonna get it. I bought the JP version when it came out so I wanna see what the US version is gonna be like.

Mesoian
02-27-2008, 12:01 PM
Beat it in japanese. It's good, just not mindblowing. A solid B effort.

Worth a purchase though.

Smuffy
03-01-2008, 03:25 PM
Mine's been preordered. Wish I could read kanji well enough to buy the import. :(

Quantum9
03-19-2008, 05:08 PM
Just a heads up: Gametrailers just put up a crapload of new vids from the US version:

http://www.gametrailers.com/game/3454.html

Looks like the entire cast is back as normal: Rick Gomez as Zack, Steve Burton as Cloud, Mena Suvari as Aerith, and George Newbern as Sephiroth. Good news for Aerith fans: Mena Suvari sounds MUCH improved over her disastrous performance in KHII.

TheAnarCHris
03-19-2008, 05:14 PM
Imported, beat, pre-ordered, cosplayed, even bought some of those potion bundles.

Obessed much? Maybe a little...

Michi
03-20-2008, 02:18 AM
Aw, those cut scenes are cute. I saw a few of them in Japanese and the English ones look pretty good too. I'm not too jazzed up for this game but maybe I'll play it eventually. :9 It came out when I was here in Japan, and the posters for it were EVERYWHERE. But I talked about that already. ;)

I think it's really neat that we're getting a more grounded backstory for the game. I used to really love FF7 but I'm out of the loop with the new stuff.

Fong
03-20-2008, 12:43 PM
I work at a Gamestop, and I have a PSP on hold for me just for this game.

(Okay maybe not JUST this game. Sqeenix LOVES the PSP to death. I mean Final Fantasy I and II ports, Crisis Core, Tactics, and the upcoming Kingdom Hearts game...)

Quantum9
03-20-2008, 04:58 PM
I work at a Gamestop, and I have a PSP on hold for me just for this game.

(Okay maybe not JUST this game. Sqeenix LOVES the PSP to death. I mean Final Fantasy I and II ports, Crisis Core, Tactics, and the upcoming Kingdom Hearts game...)

You forgot Dissidia.

And it's not just the PSP - it's handhelds in general. They've given the same, if not more love to the DS with the remakes of FFIII and FFIV, FF Tactics A2, the new Crystal Chronicles game, KH 358/2 Days, Chocobo Tales, and The World Ends With You.

And that's just from the Square side - Enix has aleady made a new Dragon Quest Monsters and Rocket Slime, and there's still remakes of DQ IV-VI and DQIX to come, not to mention the new Valkyrie Profile. I think the only Enix game that has gone to the PSP is Valkyrie Profile Lenneth.

I'm not saying that S-E likes the DS better. I'm just saying that Japan is primarily a handhelds-focused country, and Japanese third-parties like Square-Enix have been primarily focused on the mobile gaming platforms for a while now. Heck, look at all the cellphone games they've made over the past few years.

FinalEVA
03-20-2008, 05:11 PM
I work at a Gamestop, and I have a PSP on hold for me just for this game.

(Okay maybe not JUST this game. Sqeenix LOVES the PSP to death. I mean Final Fantasy I and II ports, Crisis Core, Tactics, and the upcoming Kingdom Hearts game...)

SE is probably one of the few companies that can actually make money on the PSP because there are so many fans that will buy the games. As far as I'm concerned, PSP = "Pirate Software Player." It's too bad, but at the same time, it's too easy to not have to buy games on the PSP.

Fong
03-20-2008, 05:43 PM
You forgot Dissidia.

And it's not just the PSP - it's handhelds in general. They've given the same, if not more love to the DS with the remakes of FFIII and FFIV, FF Tactics A2, the new Crystal Chronicles game, KH 358/2 Days, Chocobo Tales, and The World Ends With You.

And that's just from the Square side - Enix has aleady made a new Dragon Quest Monsters and Rocket Slime, and there's still remakes of DQ IV-VI and DQIX to come, not to mention the new Valkyrie Profile. I think the only Enix game that has gone to the PSP is Valkyrie Profile Lenneth.

I'm not saying that S-E likes the DS better. I'm just saying that Japan is primarily a handhelds-focused country, and Japanese third-parties like Square-Enix have been primarily focused on the mobile gaming platforms for a while now. Heck, look at all the cellphone games they've made over the past few years.

You're totally right. The only one I've bothered to "pick up" so far is A2, and that's just on reserve.

I'm excited for CC, though. It just depresses me that I have to buy an entirely new handheld to play it O_o

Smuffy
03-21-2008, 05:50 AM
My PSP hasn't seen much Love either lately. This should keep it busy for a while though :D

Skyline Kyo
03-21-2008, 07:36 AM
Just played a bit of the beginning...

Graphicially, it's OMG WOWOWOOWOWOW. The cg scenes? A fans dreams come true.

Gameplay? Ehh... kinda lacking but then again, I've only played it for about an hour.

The dubbings actually not that bad :D

UNIT0918
03-21-2008, 06:38 PM
I used to like Final Fantasy VII. But then, I found out that it became as overrated as Naruto so therefore, I'm losing interest.

However, I do like FF in general and the battle system of CC, so I'll consider getting this...

Quantum9
03-21-2008, 07:26 PM
Graphicially, it's OMG WOWOWOOWOWOW. The cg scenes? A fans dreams come true.

Gameplay? Ehh... kinda lacking but then again, I've only played it for about an hour.


Why am I not surprised.

TheAnarCHris
03-22-2008, 12:22 PM
I wouldn't say the gameplay is lacking, but it is repetitive as hell after a while. CC does seem to share a lot of the same problems that KH had (repetitive combat, button mashing, camera problems), but I find CC's plot a little more coherent that KH's was, and the cutscences are pretty as hell, given the fact that this is running on a PSP. And considering this is the director's first game, it does the FFVII justice, which is something Dirge or Advent couldn't do as well.

Also, as stated on 1up, this isn't the end for the FFVII-verse. I'm expecting SOMETHING to be announced at E3 this year, but we'll see. Square needs to drop 13/ Vs. 13 sometime this decade.

Lady Muramasa
03-24-2008, 05:38 PM
I pre-orded, it's in tomorrow before noon (CA time). I love FFVII, but I feel CC needs to be the last.




Also, as stated on 1up, this isn't the end for the FFVII-verse. I'm expecting SOMETHING to be announced at E3 this year, but we'll see. Square needs to drop 13/ Vs. 13 sometime this decade.



I would like to see them finish FFVII off for good, they'd probably have Genesis and Minerva permanently do away with Sepiroth(letting his true soul rest for once) and Jenova. Hopefully it will be done in movie style like Advent Children.:toothy:

FinalEVA
03-24-2008, 06:24 PM
I've been playing it last weekend. I'm really impressed so far for a spin-off. My only complaint is the battle system and having to flip through the menu options with L and R.

It really is time to lay this series to rest now. If they do a nice remake of the FF7 game, like many have wanted, then it will be good. Personally, I really don't need a remake as I'd prefer their top PS3 team to do new stuff.

I really want to start hearing more about FF 13 / Vs 13. Maybe E3, there will be a proper press conference unveiling of all the stuff that was kept secret from us the last 1-2 years, kind of like when Kojima went on stage. I really can only hope.

Sephirayne
03-24-2008, 08:39 PM
I can't wait for this game. Annoyingly the Uk release date isn't until July. *sob*. Have managed to get some cool vids things to the adventchildren.net website so I've been able to keep myself ghappy with a DVD ofd that.

I agree that the series could do with being finally finished.

Skyline Kyo
03-25-2008, 11:16 AM
I wouldn't say the gameplay is lacking, but it is repetitive as hell after a while. CC does seem to share a lot of the same problems that KH had (repetitive combat, button mashing, camera problems), but I find CC's plot a little more coherent that KH's was, and the cutscences are pretty as hell, given the fact that this is running on a PSP. And considering this is the director's first game, it does the FFVII justice, which is something Dirge or Advent couldn't do as well.

Couldn't agree more. The game eventually becomes X, X, X, X, X, X, X, X, X, [], X, X, X.

Limit breaks and summons? All random.

The story and graphics make up for the bland gameplay so well though!

TheAnarCHris
03-25-2008, 09:37 PM
So I got my copy of Crisis Core today at Best Buy. Shiny cover is shiny.

Since I've ranted enought about the gameplay, I really like the English VAs for Crisis Core. I really glad they got a new, improved VA for Aerith, and yeah, it's nice to be able to read the instructions/emails/dialogue for a change.

Xuinasha
03-26-2008, 02:36 AM
i am already playing it,loving it <3

Quantum9
03-26-2008, 02:57 AM
I got about a half hour in or so...real life has been preventing me from gaming as much as I'd like, so I couldn't play more than that. Some quick thoughts, and I'll try to avoid spoilers.

1. Zack may be one of the coolest FF heroes ever. Finally someone that breaks away from the broody, whiny stereotype we've seen ad nauseum for the past ten years. Goes out there, and gets the job done, with a bit of style to boot.

2. I've already been spoiled by trailers, but it'll be interesting to see where the Angeal/Genesis/Sephiroth thing goes.

3. The voice acting is AWESOME. Finally Square is recruiting top-notch talent.

But, the main thing I can take from this, and this is going to surprise, shock, and possibly anger many of you, but I feel it shows that Final Fantasy VII needs a remake in the worst way. It's very difficult to see and even play with the game so antiquated, and it's high time that the game was given a full-blown next-gen revamp, with high-definition graphics, orchestrated music, and voice acting. However, that's all I want to see changed - the same gameplay, storyline, and characters are required, maybe with some added sidequests. Hopefully Square will make that happen, and create the game FFVII should be, rather than the game it was.

Medion
03-27-2008, 08:26 PM
Pre-ordered it and got it day 1. Needed something to keep me occupied out here since internet access itself is very limited (no WoW again, yay military).

Anyway, the gameplay was bland, and the storyline didn't seem to go together well at first. However, as you begin to understand Genesis' motives and Angeal's frame of mind, the game gets good. I just spent the past few hours playing through the Nibelheim part, and let me tell you, I didn't want to stop, but they're doing bed checks soon, so I didn't want to have to rush to another save point.

I'll be playing it religiously this weekend, but man, that Nibelheim part ran the gamut of emotions.

Medion
03-28-2008, 05:47 PM
Well, I beat it today, and wanted to give it a "final" review, so to speak. Please keep these two things in mind whenr eading my review.

1. While I did beat it, I did it on normal, not hard. I missed a lot of the optional stuff. Suposedly Gold Saucer and a few other things are in this game, but I didn't even sniff those.

2. When I score from 0-10, 5.0 = AVERAGE. I don't use the EGM scale of "anything under 8.5 = trash." So, if I score something as a 6.5, that's "above average."

With that aside, here goes.

Graphics: 6.0 - The cinematics are all excellent, with a few exeptions that are overly compressed and somewhat garbled, such as Sephiroth's flaming Nibelheim scene. The game's character models are well made, and sometimes very impressive for the PSP. However, the bland textures brings this score down some. Sure, Midgar should be bland, but not areas like Nibelheim, which still used an NES's color palette for some reason. This game went back to the days of no more than 16 colors on screen (except in CGs).

Audio: 8.0 - After the first few hours, I felt that Nobuo was sorely missed. At this point, there were two types of music tracks in the game, his, and garbage. Anything that wasn't remixed from a previous FF at this point was worse than elevator music. However, the soundtrack does get better. I wanted to give it a 7 or so, but I had to bump it up, and here's why. Remember Aerith's/Aeris' song in FF7, and how it suddenly became a tearjerker anytime you heard it after she died? Zack's song becomes the same way starting when he says his farewells to Aerith prior to the Nibelheim mission. So yea, some songs in this game linger.

Gameplay: 4.0 - Let me be honest, I'm being generous here, because the gameplay is straigh up garbage. The puzzles couldn't challenge a short bus occupant. Exploration is limited to very few areas, and all of the zones have a bland "Phantasy Star Online" feel to them. Combat is like Dynasty Warriors, only half-assed. You WILL wear out your X button on the PSP.

Presentation: 9.5 - The CGs are well done and the voice acting is simply amazing. First time in awhile that a voice acted game hasn't given me horrific flashbacks to Shenmue's "Have you seen any sailors? I'm looking for sailors." The storyline is the best of any FF7-based game so far, IMO (not that Advent Children was any competition). After FF7 and even AC, I could care less who Zack was. I even hated the guy after the first few hours in CC. However, he grows on you throughout this game, and as you get closer to the end, you almost don't want to do it because you know how it ends. It made me feel as if Cloud stole the spotlight from the real hero. So what prevents it from being a perfect 10? I felt that the game still left a few things open to interpretation, and the timeline doesn't make complete sense in a few areas.

Conclusion: - The game was worth experiencing, but I just couldn't bring myself to do the optional stuff. It's too monotonous. The game just flat out sucks as a game. Had it been by any other company, and not part of an already amazing storyline, it wouldn't even be worth a rental. I'd almost say that this game should have been a movie, but we've already seen what happens when Square attempts that (twice).

Lady Muramasa
03-28-2008, 06:41 PM
Conclusion: - The game was worth experiencing, but I just couldn't bring myself to do the optional stuff. It's too monotonous. The game just flat out sucks as a game. Had it been by any other company, and not part of an already amazing storyline, it wouldn't even be worth a rental. I'd almost say that this game should have been a movie, but we've already seen what happens when Square attempts that (twice).

:argue: Attempt? I hope you are not meaning Advent Children and Spirits Within, both of their movies got a high rating, and were liked by most viewers with a small percentage being not interested. Meaning they didn't attempt they surpassed. But other than that I must agree totally with your review.

Quantum9
03-29-2008, 12:46 AM
:argue: Attempt? I hope you are not meaning Advent Children and Spirits Within, both of their movies got a high rating, and were liked by most viewers with a small percentage being not interested. Meaning they didn't attempt they surpassed. But other than that I must agree totally with your review.

Uhm...what? I'll give you Advent Children in part (I didn't particularly like it, but it was rated rather well and sold well to boot), but Spirits Within was a MAJOR failure on Square's part. The film was critically panned on all fronts, and was a complete box office bomb. In fact, it and the lacking sales of FFIX nearly put Square into bankruptcy AGAIN, which Nomura saved them from (AGAIN) with FFX.

Mesoian
03-29-2008, 12:55 AM
:argue: Attempt? I hope you are not meaning Advent Children and Spirits Within, both of their movies got a high rating, and were liked by most viewers with a small percentage being not interested. Meaning they didn't attempt they surpassed. But other than that I must agree totally with your review.

...what?

I've never personally met anyone who liked the spirits within. I like it, but that's because I see the parallels between it and FF7. But in every sense of the word, that movie is a bomb.

People like Advent Children because it's a fandom stroke session. The story is terrible but the fight scenes are engaging and entertaining (If not woefully over the top).

It's kind of funny, if they took the story for Crisis Core and made THAT a movie, and took advent children and made that a game, we'd have one excellent movie, and one terrible game.

Medion
03-29-2008, 06:12 AM
:argue: Attempt? I hope you are not meaning Advent Children and Spirits Within, both of their movies got a high rating, and were liked by most viewers with a small percentage being not interested. Meaning they didn't attempt they surpassed. But other than that I must agree totally with your review.

Spirits Within got good reviews? Sorry, but that movie was universally panned. As for AC, it got mixed reviews, with the best reviews saying things like "it should have been a game instead." The storyline was poorly written. If anything, it was just made to give their CG artists something to do, and as a fan service, or at the very least, to cash in on a popular game.

Lady Muramasa
03-29-2008, 08:18 PM
Correction what I meant was, Spirits Within was a stepping stone in the cg animation. I didn't see it to be that big of a bomb just as said before I separated it from FFVII, so make that your first Spirits Within fan you've met Mesoian XD, but I must admit the bomb rating came from critics, I happen to know many who liked it. Spirits Within is also known for being a bit underrated, with the characters appearing to be slightly flat. Advent Children was a success although the plot was weak, the fight scenes kept me in tune. They aren't total failures. *smacks self for going off topic*

Anyhoo, Crisis Core gameplay.....a bit weird, VA's take some getting used too, but all in all I'd give it an 7 or 8, out of 10 for overall.

Bloodsin
03-30-2008, 10:53 PM
Did anyone else feel that Genesis's involvement wasn't necessary? Everything about him annoyed the living balls out of me. I thought Angeal was a great character and Sephiroth was excellent but in all honesty, Genesis's role could have been taken out and replaced by a paragraph.

Quantum9
03-31-2008, 12:13 AM
Did anyone else feel that Genesis's involvement wasn't necessary? Everything about him annoyed the living balls out of me. I thought Angeal was a great character and Sephiroth was excellent but in all honesty, Genesis's role could have been taken out and replaced by a paragraph.

That's Gackt for you.

Michi
03-31-2008, 12:14 AM
Finally someone that breaks away from the broody, whiny stereotype we've seen ad nauseum for the past ten years.

But... but... there was Zidane! :confused:

Quantum9
03-31-2008, 12:17 AM
But... but... there was Zidane! :confused:

I meant as far as Nomura/Nojima goes. FFIX wasn't by them, so it doesn't count.

Technically, FFXII doesn't either, but Vaan still fit the mold to a T.

infinitydragon
04-01-2008, 12:39 PM
for the moment, Dissidia and crisis core (maybe the I port, havent decided about that yet) are what i will be getting a PSP for; just not at the moment as i have more important things to get adn too many other things i need to play (and too may others to finish).

Oshi
04-01-2008, 05:16 PM
I hate this game. Because it's awesome enough to have made me break down and get a PSP.

Archelon
04-01-2008, 06:19 PM
I hate this game. Because it's awesome enough to have made me break down and get a PSP.

Just wait until they port it to the PS2 next year. >.>

vasher
04-01-2008, 06:38 PM
Just wait until they port it to the PS2 next year. >.>
!

I am very doubtful, yet so hopeful. ;_;

Oshi
04-01-2008, 06:43 PM
Just wait until they port it to the PS2 next year. >.>

Too late! I'll enjoy my portable SNES/CrisisCore/Dissidia/BirthBySleep machine.

TheAnarCHris
04-02-2008, 09:49 PM
Just wait until they port it to the PS2 next year. >.>

SQUARE? PORT SOMETHING? HAH! How the hell do you think they are, Capcom? Really don't see that happening, seeing how it sold like crazy and moved systems in Japan, and judging from ppl like Oshi, here as well.

Also, Shotzy, cosplay Lazard. My campaign begins now.

Arc_The_Lad
04-03-2008, 07:11 AM
But... but... there was Zidane! :confused:

Zidane + Finding out who he is really is on Terra = EMO

Lola
04-03-2008, 11:53 AM
Just wait until they port it to the PS2 next year. >.>

Not gonna happen. Square all ready said so; this game is an exclusive to the PSP and is also exclusively on the system to help boost sales:)

VayneSolidor
04-03-2008, 04:05 PM
I bought crisis core a couple of days ago and i must say i am impressed.Genesis's role in this game could be so much more though.and the "slot machine thing" is a little annoying but manageable.to save time so i dont rant i give this game a 9.7/10 ((for now.))

Prince Virces
04-13-2008, 04:19 AM
I played the japanese version and liked it, so I suffered through the english. I'll admit I wasn't too annoyed with the english voice actors but I was too used to the japanese...hm I think I'll start a Dissidia info swaping thread.

Oh and I will shamelessly advertise my cosplays (a half assed genesis and a VERY thorough infantry Cloud...oh wait the genesis is on my other profile)

bleachbabi
04-14-2008, 08:51 PM
I bought this game on Saturday, and I'm addicted :skidude2:. I love the battle system (except for the fact that there are SO MANY BATTLES!!!), and I lol a lot (but I'm told that may just be me :geek: ).

darthseb
04-14-2008, 08:57 PM
Not gonna happen. Square all ready said so; this game is an exclusive to the PSP and is also exclusively on the system to help boost sales:)

The bond between the two companies is like two gays sixty-nining. Then, for a little bit, Sony let Square Enix be a gay slut with the X-Box 360.

If I had to pick specific gays to represent the two... Two Chris Crockers.

Michi
04-15-2008, 07:18 AM
darthseb, please tone down the offensive remarks. We have members as young as 13 on this board, so your wording is very inappropriate. I know you've made similar comments here in the past, but this is definitely way out of line.

Arc_The_Lad
04-15-2008, 09:37 PM
Bah, just obvious trolling, he needs to put some wit in it like me.

darthseb
04-16-2008, 12:16 AM
Bah, just obvious trolling, he needs to put some wit in it like me.

If I put wit into it, it would entertain more people than just me. And I don't do that.

UNIT0918
04-24-2008, 02:46 AM
I just finished Crisis Core, and the ending was great, but sad. Like the Gamespot review says, the player starts caring for the character. You could see Zack turn from a stereotypical hyper kid to a mature and noble SOLDIER.

I haven't cried from a video game in a while. Last time was probably Kingdom Hearts.


Regarding the characters I usually don't like before playing Crisis Core:

-Yuffie's still annoying. Maybe even more than ever. Yuffie used to be cool in the original game and Advent Children.

-I like Aerith a little now. I mean, I still don't really like her, but not as much thanks to Crisis Core.

-I liked Cloud in this one. I loved how different he was back then. I also loved how he was a coward, but when he got his courage, he tried his best (And you could see that, like in the Nibelhelm incident and the final scene.)

And I now know why Cloud turned emo. The Crisis Core Cloud makes me hate the FFVII and on Cloud (AC and Dirge) just because he used to be cool.

Aiynn
04-24-2008, 03:10 AM
-I like Aerith a little now. I mean, I still don't really like her, but not as much thanks to Crisis Core.

Really? I actually found I liked her less, like, she was...I dunno, way more annoying. Her voice was far better than in AC and KHII, but I still didn't quite like it.

I especially found the whole flower wagon thing annoying. She bugged and bugged Zack, and then, after running all over Midgar for the materials, she's got the nerve to complain about it? lol

UNIT0918
04-24-2008, 03:13 AM
I especially found the whole flower wagon thing annoying. She bugged and bugged Zack, and then, after running all over Midgar for the materials, she's got the nerve to complain about it? lol That is one of the reasons why I still don't like her. :P

Medion
04-28-2008, 06:45 AM
Really? I actually found I liked her less, like, she was...I dunno, way more annoying. Her voice was far better than in AC and KHII, but I still didn't quite like it.

I especially found the whole flower wagon thing annoying. She bugged and bugged Zack, and then, after running all over Midgar for the materials, she's got the nerve to complain about it? lol

Regarding your spoiler, her disposition is a bit better if you build the 2nd wagon, while the 3rd is just for S&Gs.