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VayneSolidor
05-05-2008, 02:13 PM
recently when i went back to school i was approached by a kid named tyler where i go to school.he told me about how he saw a movie thing or whatever for a legend of zelda movie.i ask "you mean the april fools trailer?sorry dude not happening.it was only a prank that likely pissed off alot of l.o.z. fans." then he says he saw that trailer but supposedly a legend of zelda movie is in the works.and that dorky looking guy in the april fools trailer wont be playing link but as for other characters i dont know anymore than any of you.so its possibile that a legend of zelda movie will actually be made into reality.

Mesoian
05-05-2008, 02:33 PM
It's been "in the works" for the past 10 years. Same as the Metriod movie. It's not happening. No one wants to throw the appropriate amount of money + manpower on a movie that won't break even (see Ewe Bewl's "In the name of the king, a dungeon seige tale).

The only reason why crap like Speed Racer and Dragon Ball Z finally got made was due to a knee jerk reaction from the writer's strike.

Rest easy, it's not happening.

TybaltFlux
05-05-2008, 04:08 PM
They should release a Zelda movie the same day they release the next Duke Nukem game.

ULTIMATE KASUMI
05-05-2008, 08:17 PM
They should release a Zelda movie the same day they release the next Duke Nukem game.

Sometime next year then.

Mesoian
05-06-2008, 12:46 AM
I'm glad i wasn't the one to say it, but I definitely wanted to say it.

Duke Nukem Forever will probably come out next year, whether it's good or bad.

VayneSolidor
05-06-2008, 02:24 PM
It's been "in the works" for the past 10 years. Same as the Metriod movie. It's not happening. No one wants to throw the appropriate amount of money + manpower on a movie that won't break even (see Ewe Bewl's "In the name of the king, a dungeon seige tale).

The only reason why crap like Speed Racer and Dragon Ball Z finally got made was due to a knee jerk reaction from the writer's strike.

Rest easy, it's not happening.


rest easy?i was actually looking forward to it,no matter how long it took.oh well..

TheAnarCHris
05-06-2008, 10:31 PM
Hope to hell not anytime soon, seeing how there's been all of zero good video game movies that aren't anime. Even then there's all of like 4 of those.

A Zelda move needs a LOTR budget, and a Peter Jackson level director. And possibly Orlando Bloom as Link. Or just watch the LOTR trilogy. Probably less painful in the long run.

TheLadySummoner
05-06-2008, 11:28 PM
It's been "in the works" for the past 10 years. Same as the Metriod movie. It's not happening. No one wants to throw the appropriate amount of money + manpower on a movie that won't break even (see Ewe Bewl's "In the name of the king, a dungeon seige tale).

The only reason why crap like Speed Racer and Dragon Ball Z finally got made was due to a knee jerk reaction from the writer's strike.

Rest easy, it's not happening.


Dragon Ball Z? Like a live action one?

Mesoian
05-07-2008, 12:10 AM
Dragon Ball Z? Like a live action one?


Yes, consult the anime section.

rest easy?i was actually looking forward to it,no matter how long it took.oh well..

Were you looking forward to the effects of the arc of the covenant?

Jerseymilk
05-07-2008, 06:53 AM
Yes, consult the anime section.

I think she was being sarcastic and that her point was that the same things were said about the live action DBZ movie for years, but now actually is getting made. I could be wrong though.

AnimatedPoison
05-07-2008, 11:11 AM
tl;dr Rumors are rumors. Until Nintendo releases a statement saying they're doing it, there will not be one.

The Hag
05-07-2008, 11:59 AM
And possibly Orlando Bloom as Link.

NO!

Or just watch the LOTR trilogy.

Yes!

sam vimes
05-07-2008, 12:09 PM
I believe my avatar exactly expresses how I feel about a Zelda movie.

Usagi_Tsuki
05-07-2008, 01:26 PM
well it would be cool if they made a movie but they have to think of the fans if ya know what i mean. They might disappoint alot of fans if they made some mistake or something, they have done like lord of the rings movies why not Zelda? But which story to follow, thats a problem.

Koisnake
05-07-2008, 01:32 PM
I believe my avatar exactly expresses how I feel about a Zelda movie.

Lawl, that made my day.

I seriously don't think it will happen, don't get your hopes up. Research before posting, mm?

akuriko
05-07-2008, 01:36 PM
So far, both trailers I've seen, real, and not real, have been awful, AWFUL. >.> If there is going to be a LOZ movie, I would prefer Nintendo oversees it.

allthatsgeek
05-07-2008, 03:41 PM
I believe my avatar exactly expresses how I feel about a Zelda movie.

My avatar describes what I would need to be doing to sit through a Zelda movie.

penny_dreadful
05-07-2008, 05:16 PM
And possibly Orlando Bloom as Link.

No, no, no, please let us not ever make Orlando Bloom blonde and elfen again. EVER. EVER AGAIN.

Agreeing that just watching the LOTR trilogy would be a lot less painful than a Zelda movie, though. Why people seem to think everything in God's creation needs to be made into a film, I will never know.

The Hag
05-07-2008, 05:35 PM
they have to think of the fans

No, actually they don't, unfortunately. Most studio movies are made with only one thing in mind: how to make a lot of money. :/

Leishu
05-07-2008, 06:15 PM
I'm glad i wasn't the one to say it, but I definitely wanted to say it.

Duke Nukem Forever will probably come out next year, whether it's good or bad.

You're joking, right?

It's been "probably next year" (or, officially, "when it's done") since about 1998.

TheAnarCHris
05-07-2008, 10:27 PM
No, no, no, please let us not ever make Orlando Bloom blonde and elfen again. EVER. EVER AGAIN.

Agreeing that just watching the LOTR trilogy would be a lot less painful than a Zelda movie, though. Why people seem to think everything in God's creation needs to be made into a film, I will never know.


Hey, I rather have blonde, silent Orlando Bloom than...well, pretty much any other role he's in starred in. Including "Pirates..".

ULTIMATE KASUMI
05-07-2008, 11:05 PM
You're joking, right?

It's been "probably next year" (or, officially, "when it's done") since about 1998.

Guess you didn't see that teaser trailer they released awhile back. It's in progress.

Usagi_Tsuki
05-08-2008, 10:42 AM
No, actually they don't, unfortunately. Most studio movies are made with only one thing in mind: how to make a lot of money. :/


well thats true but we are talking about nintendo here thats different, well thats what i think , i mean there are alot of Zelda fans all around the world and we are like the most important people to the whole thing i mean we are the ones buyin' the games and the accessories. we are the important people, the fans, thats why they have to think about the fans, they can't dissappoint us.

akuriko
05-08-2008, 10:46 AM
well thats true but we are talking about nintendo here thats different, well thats what i think , i mean there are alot of Zelda fans all around the world and we are like the most important people to the whole thing i mean we are the ones buyin' the games and the accessories. we are the important people, the fans, thats why they have to think about the fans, they can't disappoint us.

I imagine Nintendo would take into consideration what their fans would like, but leave it to Hollywood to aim to piss us all off. XD

TR Rose
05-08-2008, 12:18 PM
You mean that after that travesty of a movie that they supposedly based off Super Mario Bros. (Dennis Hopper, WTF?), people want to see them ruin Zelda the same way?

LOTR is the closest I ever want to see to an official Zelda film.

Leishu
05-08-2008, 12:20 PM
Guess you didn't see that teaser trailer they released awhile back. It's in progress.

It has been "in progress" for over ten years.

Their "teaser trailer" is just like their screenshots (of Atari, Pentium 2, Pentium 3, Pentium 4) and, furthermore, their last teaser trailers before this one (1998, E3) (2001, also E3). If you think you're going to see this game anytime soon, you should provide actual evidence before you make a claim, or you'll just get laughed at by people who've actually been waiting for it since Plutonium Pack.

DNF has, thus far, been a joke by the guys at 3DRealms/Apogee at their players' expense.

Usagi_Tsuki
05-08-2008, 12:46 PM
I imagine Nintendo would take into consideration what their fans would like, but leave it to Hollywood to aim to piss us all off. XD

Hollywood + bad movie = Money
thats what they all care about. To make a movie thats worth watching is hard to make but worth to watch though. I got really dissapointed on the Resident Evil movies tho v.v its NOT the same as the games. I hope they make a wonderfull Zelda movie in the future, i bet the fans would go crazy if they saw a trailer on tv one day, specially me.

akuriko
05-08-2008, 12:58 PM
You mean that after that travesty of a movie that they supposedly based off Super Mario Bros. (Dennis Hopper, WTF?), people want to see them ruin Zelda the same way?

LOTR is the closest I ever want to see to an official Zelda film.

LOL! Yeah, it was hilariously awful, and they totally set it up for sequel. XD Hollywood would totally twist it around somehow as being artistic liberty and eff the whole thing up. They don't understand that with nostalgia films (video games, old cartoons, etc.), they need to stay as true to the original as possible. Pretty sure the day I see a preview for the Legend of Zelda movie on TV is the day I age 50 years in 30 seconds. XD

VayneSolidor
05-22-2008, 02:49 PM
i dont mean to be rude but i must know:what the hell is the problem with a legend of zelda movie?you guys bitch and complain "oh it would suck.it would suck bad..hollywood blah blah blah." look i respect your oppinions and all but seriously,grow the hell up already.nothing in the videogame universe has to live up to the mcdonalds motto of "at mcdonalds we love to see you smile".if you dont like something then dont f****** buy it and rant about why it sucks so much a** when you dont even know a damn thing about it!you all ((No i'm NOT singling out ANYONE)) say so much about how the actors are wrong or suck or arent attractive...what ever.i bet you all who sit at home on your computers with your stupid little headsets,mp3s, and wannabe ganster crap arent even half as attractive as the actors you see.all this ranting of yours just proves that all of you are not fans of anything.you are all pathetic!and sure..i admit i do the same thing that you all do on occasion but atleast i have a life that does have many values and meaning justified by reason!


btw if an admin sees this and wants me deleted i dont care.go ahead and "kill me off" if you must.

Leishu
05-22-2008, 02:52 PM
i dont mean to be rude but i must know:what the hell is the problem with a legend of zelda movie?you guys bitch and complain "oh it would suck.it would suck bad..hollywood blah blah blah." look i respect your oppinions and all but seriously,grow the hell up already.nothing in the videogame universe has to live up to the mcdonalds motto of "at mcdonalds we love to see you smile".if you dont like something then dont f****** buy it and rant about why it sucks so much a** when you dont even know a damn thing about it!you all ((No i'm NOT singling out ANYONE)) say so much about how the actors are wrong or suck or arent attractive...what ever.i bet you all who sit at home on your computers with your stupid little headsets,mp3s, and wannabe ganster crap arent even half as attractive as the actors you see.all this ranting of yours just proves that all of you are not fans of anything.you are all pathetic!and sure..i admit i do the same thing that you all do on occasion but atleast i have a life that does have many values and meaning justified by reason!

I think that they're extrapolating, judging what a Zelda movie would be like based on pretty much every other video game-based film ever to hit the market.

VayneSolidor
05-24-2008, 03:08 PM
I think that they're extrapolating, judging what a Zelda movie would be like based on pretty much every other video game-based film ever to hit the market.

on the contrary, the majority of videogamers here bash on whatever is not something they want.

Kesra
05-24-2008, 08:02 PM
Well ya know...that's just how we are. We're human. We have to complain about something. I, personally, would rather complain about there not being a LOZ movie than be pissed off when they came out with one and it did suck

And it would suck.

But at least this way, we can talk about how cool the movie would be rather then having to endure it and not live up to what we, the fans, would want from such a movie.

This sort of conversation comes up ANY TIME you make a thread about a video game and no amount of bitching and moaning about our bitching and moaning is going to stop us from bitching and moaning.

In short: Deal with it or don't make such threads.

Roleplaywulf
05-24-2008, 08:43 PM
Lawl, s'no.

Quantum9
05-24-2008, 11:02 PM
The big issue with a Zelda game would be that it would require an immense budget...we're talking Lord of the Rings/Star Wars level here, for all of the effects. I don't think a studio would ever give a video game movie that sort of budget.

Leishu
05-27-2008, 01:46 PM
on the contrary, the majority of videogamers here bash on whatever is not something they want.

I simply do not think you are correct. Based on previous videogame films, it would be a horrid adaptation, a horrid film, or both. It is not that the people in this thread do not want to see a Zelda film be good or exist at all. It's that they've been burned a few too many times and have learned that it probably would not be.

kuko-chan
05-27-2008, 10:18 PM
I just hate how people bitch about something that hasn't even been made yet, let alone picked up by a producer. Sure, Ew Balls has churned out some god-awful video game movies, but why let the past determine what the future holds? Just because we've been burned in the past with crappy movies doesn't mean ALL video game movies are going to suck.

All I'm saying is IF they ever decided to turn Zelda into a movie, give it a chance. Don't knock it till you try it.

Leishu
05-28-2008, 11:08 AM
I just hate how people bitch about something that hasn't even been made yet, let alone picked up by a producer. Sure, Ew Balls has churned out some god-awful video game movies, but why let the past determine what the future holds? Just because we've been burned in the past with crappy movies doesn't mean ALL video game movies are going to suck.

All I'm saying is IF they ever decided to turn Zelda into a movie, give it a chance. Don't knock it till you try it.

I agree with that last part, certainly, but it would depend on who makes it. If it's Uwe Boll, it's not worth the film it's printed on (literally). I doubt that we'll see a Zelda film any time soon, though.

kuko-chan
05-30-2008, 10:05 AM
I agree with that last part, certainly, but it would depend on who makes it. If it's Uwe Boll, it's not worth the film it's printed on (literally). I doubt that we'll see a Zelda film any time soon, though.

Agreed. I just wish Uwe would stop churning out crap. The worst part is he KNOWS he's churning out crap and he just doesn't care so long as it makes a quick buck.

Now get me Peter Jackson on the project! :D

Kesra
06-01-2008, 03:00 PM
Of course I'd go watch it. I just don't think it could ever possibly live up to the expectations of the fans of the game. Again, I'd rather think about how awesome the movie could have been than see it and be gravely disappointed.

Pliskin
06-01-2008, 09:52 PM
To be honest, I don't think it will ever happen, for a simple reason...

Videogame rights. Nintendo would either have to front the money for their own studio, or work in some sort of clause for videogame rights with a studio (not likely, since a movie studio would be the one with all the leverage).

What this means is, if there was a Zelda movie, the movie studio would be able to dole-out the rights for Zelda movie-games to any company they wanted. Ubisoft, EA, Activision, etc. Meaning one of Nintendo's hallmark franchises would, in a roundabout way, end-up on different platforms, and legally, there would be nothing the big N could do about it.

That's the biggest reason why I don't foresee any Nintendo movies coming soon.

Leishu
06-01-2008, 10:43 PM
Also a very good reason why it won't happen. It's important to keep in mind that Nintendo was burned last time they gave rights to one of their titles to another company, too.

Now, of course, they do have their animation studios for their first party titles. I guess it's feasable that a full-length Zelda Anime could happen via that if they had the inclination, but I seriously doubt it.

kuko-chan
06-03-2008, 10:59 AM
Which title did Nintendo give the rights away for? What happened regarding that situation? (Sorry to go a little off topic)

Leishu
06-03-2008, 06:50 PM
Which title did Nintendo give the rights away for? What happened regarding that situation? (Sorry to go a little off topic)

Mario Brothers. John Leguizamo. Bob Hoskins. It was interesting, funny, and weird, but an utterly craptacular adaptation and a horrible film.

Pliskin
06-03-2008, 08:01 PM
http://www.gamesetwatch.com/mariomovie2.jpg

That movie poster basically says it all.

kuko-chan
06-04-2008, 01:53 PM
Ah yes, I remember that. My god was it corny! XD Then again, many movies that came out around that time weren't meant to be taken seriously. The movies coming out nowadays aren't as bad (as in, not cheesy, but still kinda bad plot-wise). Directors try to take things a little more seriously now with adaptation films (ex. Dark Knight, Transformers, Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, etc.). I think it's just taking longer with video game movies.

jennarose
06-04-2008, 03:53 PM
Mario Brothers. John Leguizamo. Bob Hoskins. It was interesting, funny, and weird, but an utterly craptacular adaptation and a horrible film.

Lol. I remember watching that movie a lot when I was younger. I think we still have it too. My favorite part was the mattress sledding part, ah, after that I was dying to try it. xD.

Back on topic. Sure a Zelda movie would be interesting, and of coarse I would go see it no matter what the critics or anyone else would say about it, but then again it comes down to the fact that not anyone person can direct it. To truly make a remarkable Zelda movie, I believe, the director must be a big fan himself (and also a great director). There is a 99 percent chance that one will never happen, but who knows, one day we may just see one popping up in Hollywood. Also there's the storyline to think about. What game would they base it off of (personally I think Ocarina of Time would be the most interesting) or would they even base it off a game? Or could they take every game and make a big storyline out of all of them. Who knows, we as fans can either dream about a Zelda movie, or reject it. In the end we all know it's never going to happen, so why not try to think of the what if? It's kind of interesting if you ask me. :)

Gaara-Sephiroth
06-04-2008, 04:06 PM
No, no, no, please let us not ever make Orlando Bloom blonde and elfen again. EVER. EVER AGAIN.


Yeah, really! And don't ruin Link in such a horrible way! >_<

A Zelda movie would be awesome but I don't think they'll ever do one. And, I don't think they'd be able to do Zelda justice.....lol.

ELFanatic
06-04-2008, 04:27 PM
Yeah, really! And don't ruin Link in such a horrible way! >_<

A Zelda movie would be awesome but I don't think they'll ever do one. And, I don't think they'd be able to do Zelda justice.....lol.

I know what you mean, with such a bad record with game -movie adaptions it's a lost cause but then you see movies like LOTR and think it's possible. Talents there. comic books are doing pretty damn good too. then you hear about DBZ and Akira's adaption and you lose hope again. I fear your right, they'd never do zelda justice.

Gaara-Sephiroth
06-04-2008, 04:46 PM
I know what you mean, with such a bad record with game -movie adaptions it's a lost cause but then you see movies like LOTR and think it's possible. Talents there. comic books are doing pretty damn good too. then you hear about DBZ and Akira's adaption and you lose hope again. I fear your right, they'd never do zelda justice.Yeah, it'd be cool if they tried but at the same time, I'd be afraid to see what they'd do to it.

Pliskin
06-04-2008, 05:02 PM
I know what you mean, with such a bad record with game -movie adaptions it's a lost cause but then you see movies like LOTR and think it's possible. Talents there. comic books are doing pretty damn good too. then you hear about DBZ and Akira's adaption and you lose hope again. I fear your right, they'd never do zelda justice.

I think another problem with a Zelda movie, is that its going to have to be changed quite a bit, aesthetically, from the games.

That might be a little problematic, and it might stray a little too far from the creative vision that many Zelda fans have. Back when the LotR films were being made, a great deal of fans were absolutely furious that there was going to be platemail in the movies, because clearly it was never mentioned in the books, and it should all be chain, etc.

Part of the only ways I can see a LoZ movie succeed is if it focuses on something more than a fantasy story and setting that's pretty run of the mill as far as literature goes. It needs to appeal to not just the Zelda fans, but be something that would get even myself (I really have no interest in the games) to want to see it. One of the "bigger" hurdles with the game, is simply the main character. While the JRPG generation doesn't mind a somewhat feminine main character, the more general movie-going public, like Joe-Sixpack, is going to take one look at Link and scream "GHEEEEEY!!!" at the screen and walk out of the theater. Unfortunately, there's little that can be done to remove that feeling, but with gradual introduction and stellar writing, the audience can learn to like someone they're predisposed dislike, as well as keep the same Link all the fans know and love intact.

Working time travel into the story would be almost a necessity. OOT is such an important part of the Zelda fandom now that its almost like bread and butter. It just needs an amazingly well-done script.

Whew. Anyway, i basically go tired of "why" one can't be made, and started talking about if one was made, how it would need to be done. Anyone else have some input? I'm not trying to make it seem like I'm bashing Zelda in any-way, its just, myself not being a fan,nI think I might be able to provide a bit of prospective on what one could expect in a movie.

For what its worth, the fake movie trailer made me cringe.

ELFanatic
06-04-2008, 05:19 PM
Quick comment to Gaara, yeah I'm kinda with you, I know it won't be great but at the same time something in me wants a movie to be made.

I think the platemail thing is weird, I don't recall tolkein denying the existence of platemail in his books but that's a tangent. The platemail thing is a different situation, it was text, we've always had visuals with zelda so there shouldn't be any issues with that regard. Most zelda games have a very thin story so that won't be hard with creative vision, the difficulty might be extending the story long enough for a full length movie and maintaining the creative vision. None of this I see much of an issue.

I disagree with the six pack man. Neo didn't pretend to have a six pack at all. Tony stark, nope, even hulk, not until he becomes hulk. There's been many heros that weren't think so that's not an issue at all. William Wallace wasn't too think in braveheart and no one had issues. So I don't think that's an issue.

I think the issue is one, people creating the movie who hasn't played the movie, which is very likely to occur and producers worrying too greatly over what will sale only to alienate the fans. And non fans don't take interest because they force soemthing that was something else into something that it's not.

The other is deciding on a story to use, the story from one game, a new story or mixing stories. I think it's this issue as well that will cause the whole thing to fail too.

I think another problem with a Zelda movie, is that its going to have to be changed quite a bit, aesthetically, from the games.

That might be a little problematic, and it might stray a little too far from the creative vision that many Zelda fans have. Back when the LotR films were being made, a great deal of fans were absolutely furious that there was going to be platemail in the movies, because clearly it was never mentioned in the books, and it should all be chain, etc.

Part of the only ways I can see a LoZ movie succeed is if it focuses on something more than a fantasy story and setting that's pretty run of the mill as far as literature goes. It needs to appeal to not just the Zelda fans, but be something that would get even myself (I really have no interest in the games) to want to see it. One of the "bigger" hurdles with the game, is simply the main character. While the JRPG generation doesn't mind a somewhat feminine main character, the more general movie-going public, like Joe-Sixpack, is going to take one look at Link and scream "GHEEEEEY!!!" at the screen and walk out of the theater. Unfortunately, there's little that can be done to remove that feeling, but with gradual introduction and stellar writing, the audience can learn to like someone they're predisposed dislike, as well as keep the same Link all the fans know and love intact.

Working time travel into the story would be almost a necessity. OOT is such an important part of the Zelda fandom now that its almost like bread and butter. It just needs an amazingly well-done script.

Whew. Anyway, i basically go tired of "why" one can't be made, and started talking about if one was made, how it would need to be done. Anyone else have some input? I'm not trying to make it seem like I'm bashing Zelda in any-way, its just, myself not being a fan,nI think I might be able to provide a bit of prospective on what one could expect in a movie.

For what its worth, the fake movie trailer made me cringe.

Pliskin
06-04-2008, 05:33 PM
Most zelda games have a very thin story so that won't be hard with creative vision, the difficulty might be extending the story long enough for a full length movie and maintaining the creative vision. None of this I see much of an issue.

In extending the story, you also need to fill-in the gaps. You can't simply tell a story about Link going from point-a to point-b, you need to sell the entire world to the audience. There needs to be an incredible amount of background work done, thats what helped the audience accept LotR onscreen.

I disagree with the six pack man. Neo didn't pretend to have a six pack at all. Tony stark, nope, even hulk, not until he becomes hulk. There's been many heros that weren't think so that's not an issue at all. William Wallace wasn't too think in braveheart and no one had issues. So I don't think that's an issue.

You misunderstood my statement. "Joe Sixpack" is a term that means "Average Joe". Tony Stark was a man and looked it, manly men could relate to him. (and boy did he act like it). Neo was a man (and manly men could relate to it by the end of the movie). The point I'm trying to make is that the average guy is going to think Link is a homosexual due to his waife, thin, and pretty girly figure. Heck, the majority of LotR fans who were male preferred the more manly characters to Legolas. Whenever Legolas would appear on scream, the ladies in the audience would let out a simultaneous squee, and the guys would roll their eyes. (I'm exaggerating a bit, but the point still stands). There needs to be a HECKUVA lot of development put into Link, as well as a top notch actor (RDJ caliber, not RDJ, but an actor that can take Link and do what RDJ did for Tony Stark).

I think the issue is one, people creating the movie who hasn't played the movie, which is very likely to occur and producers worrying too greatly over what will sale only to alienate the fans. And non fans don't take interest because they force soemthing that was something else into something that it's not.

In essence, this is probably another reason why Zelda would never be made as a movie. Its appeal could just be too narrow. The Speed Racer movie was a faithful adaptation in the spirit of the original cartoons, as many a fan will testify. Its also one of the biggest flops of the year, because the only people it appealed to were fans.

ELFanatic
06-05-2008, 01:58 AM
I greatly disagree that there needed to be changes to the story to make LOTR acceptable to non fans. But that's neither here nor there. I don't believe that extending the story is so much an issue as the director and screen writter being too free with their creativity while extending it.

Why does link have to be metrosexual again? He never hit me as metrosexual. He never hit me as girly like leggy did, either. Aside from the ears and them telling you that he's an elf, he hardly looks it. He just looks like a teenage boy. If you're afraid that the clothes may mislead than you can make slight changes and still keep the integrity of the character. But why can Peter Pan fly around like a pixie and where green clothes with leggings and never be accused of being homosexual but link, (who mind you I've never heard anyone call homosexual) be branded as one as soon as he hits the screen?

Zelda's appeal much too narrow? We all knew speed racer would flop, it's campy at it's heart. The fans are happy that finally a movie is made of their favorite anime/game that is true to it's original vision but it didn't hold enough on its own. But zelda? It's a world of fantasy where large and crazy creatures exist with link doing not much more than killing these crazy things and then a dark world or time travel for fun. Sounds like a good formula for blockbuster to me, especially with narnia, potter and LOTR proving that fantasy is working at the blockbuster.

I don't know I could be wrong but I don't think there's anything innate to Zelda that would cause it to flop, just the fact that screen writters don't know how to adapt a game and the publishers too worried it won't sale and thus remove or change everything that made the title great to begin with.

Pliskin
06-05-2008, 09:23 AM
I greatly disagree that there needed to be changes to the story to make LOTR acceptable to non fans. But that's neither here nor there. I don't believe that extending the story is so much an issue as the director and screen writter being too free with their creativity while extending it.

Where did I say changes neeed to be made to the story? LotR was fleshed out so well by Tolkien that it became easy to make believable through set design, costume design, etc. Tolkien had already done much of the background work and made the place that the War of the Ring happens an actual, fleshed-out place.

The problem here, is that Hyrule has never had that degree of attention, and I think it would need that to make it seem as believable as a

Why does link have to be metrosexual again? He never hit me as metrosexual. He never hit me as girly like leggy did, either. Aside from the ears and them telling you that he's an elf, he hardly looks it. He just looks like a teenage boy.[quote]

Most teenage boys I know aren't very manly-looking.

[quote]If you're afraid that the clothes may mislead than you can make slight changes and still keep the integrity of the character. But why can Peter Pan fly around like a pixie and where green clothes with leggings and never be accused of being homosexual but link, (who mind you I've never heard anyone call homosexual) be branded as one as soon as he hits the screen?

Because Peter Pan is a children's tale? (and actually, he has been, for quite some time now). Whats even more interesting is if you look-up the author of the original Peter Pan.

Zelda's appeal much too narrow? We all knew speed racer would flop, it's campy at it's heart. The fans are happy that finally a movie is made of their favorite anime/game that is true to it's original vision but it didn't hold enough on its own. But zelda? It's a world of fantasy where large and crazy creatures exist with link doing not much more than killing these crazy things and then a dark world or time travel for fun. Sounds like a good formula for blockbuster to me, especially with narnia, potter and LOTR proving that fantasy is working at the blockbuster.

LotR, as I said before, is a lot more fleshed out, and all in all, a much more epic story. Narnia, recently got squished under the foot of Iron Man at the box office, and the studio is unsure if they are even going to make another movie. Potter has a large supportive audience from the books, that will see the movie and support it.

As a fantasy setting, Zelda is pretty high up on the "cliche fantasy" meter.

All of those groups have a larger fan-audience than Zelda.

ELFanatic
06-05-2008, 09:51 AM
Where did I say changes neeed to be made to the story? LotR was fleshed out so well by Tolkien that it became easy to make believable through set design, costume design, etc. Tolkien had already done much of the background work and made the place that the War of the Ring happens an actual, fleshed-out place.

The problem here, is that Hyrule has never had that degree of attention, and I think it would need that to make it seem as believable as a

[quote]Why does link have to be metrosexual again? He never hit me as metrosexual. He never hit me as girly like leggy did, either. Aside from the ears and them telling you that he's an elf, he hardly looks it. He just looks like a teenage boy.[quote]

Most teenage boys I know aren't very manly-looking.



Because Peter Pan is a children's tale? (and actually, he has been, for quite some time now). Whats even more interesting is if you look-up the author of the original Peter Pan.



LotR, as I said before, is a lot more fleshed out, and all in all, a much more epic story. Narnia, recently got squished under the foot of Iron Man at the box office, and the studio is unsure if they are even going to make another movie. Potter has a large supportive audience from the books, that will see the movie and support it.

As a fantasy setting, Zelda is pretty high up on the "cliche fantasy" meter.

All of those groups have a larger fan-audience than Zelda.

who knows, maybe Zelda isn't fit for the screen. But I'd still like it to be made, I think it'd be interesting and as long as it's good I don't really care about the box office. I'll let them figure out how to sale it.

Leishu
06-06-2008, 04:20 PM
Lending some credence to the possibility, discussed earlier in this thread, of Duke Nukem Forever soon:

http://crackle.com/c/jacehall#promo=21

It's about four minutes and twenty seconds in...

-actual- gameplay footage. No joke. Twelve years and we finally have something concrete on this game. Woot. :]

Gaara-Sephiroth
06-06-2008, 04:29 PM
Why does link have to be metrosexual again? He never hit me as metrosexual. He never hit me as girly like leggy did, either. Aside from the ears and them telling you that he's an elf, he hardly looks it. He just looks like a teenage boy. If you're afraid that the clothes may mislead than you can make slight changes and still keep the integrity of the character. But why can Peter Pan fly around like a pixie and where green clothes with leggings and never be accused of being homosexual but link, (who mind you I've never heard anyone call homosexual) be branded as one as soon as he hits the screen?This is probably a little off topic but.....there are a lot of people who think Link is homosexual. A lot of my friends included. -_- I personally find it annoying when they say that.

Pliskin
06-06-2008, 07:40 PM
Lending some credence to the possibility, discussed earlier in this thread, of Duke Nukem Forever soon:

http://crackle.com/c/jacehall#promo=21

It's about four minutes and twenty seconds in...

-actual- gameplay footage. No joke. Twelve years and we finally have something concrete on this game. Woot. :]

Actually, there was gameplay footage about 10-11 years ago too. Multiple different builds in-fact. I'm still going to subscribe to the "yahtzee" school of videogame critique.

Leishu
06-06-2008, 08:05 PM
Actually, there was gameplay footage about 10-11 years ago too. Multiple different builds in-fact. I'm still going to subscribe to the "yahtzee" school of videogame critique.

I recall seeing many, many, many screenshots (most of which were of a build in the Quake 2, and then Half-life engine, if I recall correctly) but never video. It has been a while and memory does go fuzzy, though... :p

ELFanatic
06-07-2008, 01:01 AM
This is probably a little off topic but.....there are a lot of people who think Link is homosexual. A lot of my friends included. -_- I personally find it annoying when they say that.

ha ha, I've never heard this. Of course an elf/fairy will always be linked to homosexuals despite the fact that he spends every game searching for his trick. no no, Zelda's not a trick. That's mean to her.

TybaltFlux
06-07-2008, 01:28 AM
Just doing my nightly trolling and came in here as Duke Nukem Forever cries beckoned. I'm telling you people, the game won't happen :p.

On an on-topic note, I don't know if this was mentioned, but any spoken lines given to Link would also be a slight insult to fans, now wouldn't they? Especially if the first sentences spoken by Link were in a movie, thus making the movie untrue to the games right from the start.

And speaking on story, the game's have a hard time enough presenting some type of continuity, so the movies would have to be rearranged in a way that leaves out a LOT of detail, presents the most pop-friendly material, and all the while still conveys a Zelda message. So like Pliskin said, throw in some Time Travel, some of the NES or SNES story continuity, and top it off with either the Wind Waker or TWilight Princess serving as 'endings.' (I'm thinking movie trilogy form, cause it all couldn't fit into one movie, obviously)

I think the whole premise of a Zelda movie isn't farfetched, either. I think it's doable. Heck, I think it'll happen. Not soon though, but Super Mario Brothers happened, so why not ;p. I just think it's so hard to convey what a video game conveys via a movie medium that ultimately, it's going to fail. Same is mostly true for movies into video games, as the entertainment presented in the respective mediums is so different (one's passive, the others active) that when they try to cross over, bam, clash, and we're left with Tomb Raider movies and Pirates of the Carribean video games.

(but Goldeneye/ 64 will always be that glimmering light of hope)

Leishu
06-07-2008, 09:53 AM
Just doing my nightly trolling and came in here as Duke Nukem Forever cries beckoned. I'm telling you people, the game won't happen :p.


Heh. It might. It just might. I'm still of the mind that 3D realms makes a new, very bare-bones build once every few years as something of an in-joke, because they're like that, but by the looks of that video that's the most complete build I've seen of it yet. I'll still hope, because it'd be nice to have an FPS out there which isn't the same old Army or Alien Blasting crap (while Duke has alien blasting, it is of a very different sort than the canned stuff we get from the Unreal/Halo/Quake/etc clones that have abounded for the past 6-7 years). I'm not saying that it's any more likely than it was before this video, but the hopeful person in me really really wants it to happen, no matter how unlikely, because Duke 3D is still one of the best FPS's ever made in my eyes. (Though I personally think Shadow Warrior, the lesser known followup with the Build engine, was a LOT better). I figure it's significantly more likely, at this juncture, than a Zelda movie, and has a higher chance of being a quality work.

On an on-topic note, I don't know if this was mentioned, but any spoken lines given to Link would also be a slight insult to fans, now wouldn't they? Especially if the first sentences spoken by Link were in a movie, thus making the movie untrue to the games right from the start.

And speaking on story, the game's have a hard time enough presenting some type of continuity, so the movies would have to be rearranged in a way that leaves out a LOT of detail, presents the most pop-friendly material, and all the while still conveys a Zelda message. So like Pliskin said, throw in some Time Travel, some of the NES or SNES story continuity, and top it off with either the Wind Waker or TWilight Princess serving as 'endings.' (I'm thinking movie trilogy form, cause it all couldn't fit into one movie, obviously)

I think the whole premise of a Zelda movie isn't farfetched, either. I think it's doable. Heck, I think it'll happen. Not soon though, but Super Mario Brothers happened, so why not ;p. I just think it's so hard to convey what a video game conveys via a movie medium that ultimately, it's going to fail. Same is mostly true for movies into video games, as the entertainment presented in the respective mediums is so different (one's passive, the others active) that when they try to cross over, bam, clash, and we're left with Tomb Raider movies and Pirates of the Carribean video games.

(but Goldeneye/ 64 will always be that glimmering light of hope)

Mmm... well it's still pretty bloody unlikely. I think that it'd take a mighty anal fan to complain that Link speaks in a film, but that's probably for a different topic of discussion.

It's also fair to keep in mind that most crossovers suck. Goldeneye was the exception, not the rule. The overwhelming majority of games which are spawned as franchises from films are contracted out to second-rate production studios and created under utterly inane restrictions. See: Every game made as an adaptation of a Marvel, Disney, MGM, James Bond, etc. etc. that isn't Goldeneye. Film-to-Game Crossovers have a significantly higher chance of sucking than game to film crossovers (Plus, the studios -hate- doing them. Even EA basically contracts them out to smaller studios which can't afford -not- to and therefore take the crappy contracts for need of money).

Pliskin
06-08-2008, 02:48 PM
Mmm... well it's still pretty bloody unlikely. I think that it'd take a mighty anal fan to complain that Link speaks in a film

I seem to recall a rather large group of fans complaining about a certain score for a Zelda game whose name escapes me... :crylaugh:

Leishu
06-08-2008, 03:13 PM
I seem to recall a rather large group of fans complaining about a certain score for a Zelda game whose name escapes me... :crylaugh:

*chuckle* Really? I missed them. Wow. Anal fans annoy the hell out of me so I tend to avoid them. Perhaps that's why I didn't notice. :]

Pliskin
06-08-2008, 03:17 PM
*chuckle* Really? I missed them. Wow. Anal fans annoy the hell out of me so I tend to avoid them. Perhaps that's why I didn't notice. :]

Heh, from the Corporate Shill website...

http://www.gamespot.com/events/wiilaunch/story.html?sid=6161993&pid=928519&tag=topslot;action;1&om_act=convert&click=topslot

You don't remember this? Back when Gerstman lost his job, there were two vocal groups, one was appalled that he had lost his job over his honest opinion, and the other was glad to see him go because he gave Twilight Princess an 8.8

Back when the news broke on Kotaku, probably 1/3 of the comments were basically saying "good riddance", lol.

Serria
06-08-2008, 06:23 PM
I don't think the Zelda games have a good enough storyline to make a successful movie. I mean, it's not like their lacking but what is involved is far better suited in a video game.

Seeing it as a film... there's just not enough plot elements going on. Most of the games involve going through dungeons. If Zelda was made into a movie, a lot would have to be added with plot development.

Of course, I would still go see a Zelda movie. I really would. I would love to see a live action masterpiece. But in all of the games I've played, I can't help but thinking that some things are better left as games (and others better left as movies).

TybaltFlux
06-08-2008, 07:39 PM
You know what would be interesting? (on the whole Link's first words thing) If Link were mute, and Navi/some fairy and Zelda did all the real communication. Granted, the story would have to be all about Zelda (which it should be), Ganondorf (greatest Nintendo villain ever, duh he deserves it), and the locales, and Link would serve as a silent window for it all.

Just wanted to throw it out there, cause like I said, I think a movie will happen eventually- might as well at least try to make it somewhat interesting and/or not ail miserably.