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Gryphonic_Angel
06-28-2003, 12:52 AM
does anyone have any ideas on how to make my voice sound more like a girls? I was wondering if anyone knows where to go to get tips on voice acting like that or anything.

and yes I have tried being kicked in the balls it only works for a minute though.

caelestis
06-28-2003, 06:49 AM
kicked in the balls? o.o

Tried inhaling helium? Yes, I know it kills brain cells, but it's the only thing I can think of that raises voices (for a short period of time).

Only other thing I could suggest is practice... *shrugs*

Dr. Makoti Jean
06-28-2003, 04:29 PM
Yeah what caelestis said. Try hearing some girls talk and then try to copycat their voice. Hm hope that helps you.

Rethul
06-28-2003, 06:50 PM
This is something you don't do at the last minute, that's for sure. Search google for more detailed advice but I'll give you what I know.

-Pitch is not important. Don't make your voice higher pitched, then it just sounds squeaky and it's harder to maintain for extended periods of time.
-The key is figuring out where to resonate your voice from. Guys speak through their chest and sometimes their lower throat. Women use their head and upper throat as a resonance chamber.
-The best way to learn is by imitating women around your age talking.

Nine
06-29-2003, 07:18 PM
You could change your voice, if you work on it for months and months with a professional.. then you could possibly achieve it. Just raising your voice, and imitating the way a girl talks won't make you sound like a girl, especially if your voice is "manly".

Gren
06-29-2003, 07:51 PM
I'd recomend imitation as well. Women come with all sorts of vocal pitches (well.... not baritone.... but basses!) So a good place to start would be to find a femme with a low vocal pitch (Faye Valentine of Cowboy Bebop is the first one that popped in my head) and just try to mimic them. And practice like a madman. Also, if you have a radio with a tape recorder, this can really help you monitor your progress.
If you need, once you can handle a girl with your same pitch, you can try for one with a slightly higher, but you have to be careful. Many make the mistake of tightening their throat or using a more nasal tone, which makes them sound like... well... a man trying to sound like a girl. A voice isn't convincing if you have to go to great lenghts to produce it. If you can't hold a musical note that high, then your vocal range just isn't meant to go there and to do so would be straining.

Oh! And when emulating a voice, it's probably wise to stay away from butch irl voices like Leila from Vampire Hunter D Bloodlust.

Dr. Makoti Jean
06-29-2003, 08:05 PM
Originally posted by Nine
You could change your voice, if you work on it for months and months with a professional.. then you could possibly achieve it. Just raising your voice, and imitating the way a girl talks won't make you sound like a girl, especially if your voice is "manly".

Ne, wouldn't that cost alot of money?

Reiko-chan
06-29-2003, 09:24 PM
I'd have to say practice. I have a sort of low pitched voice for a girl, so it's easy for me to imitate both girls and guys. Really high pitches are hard for me to hit, but I practiced for a long time. I can now do anything from Stitch to Ameria to some unholy demon just from playing around in my spare time. Oh, and don't feel too embarresed if you're caught in the act, my rents found me saying some pretty strange stuff! ^^()

Mizuno Tenshi
06-29-2003, 10:04 PM
Umm... trying to explain why you're trying to sound like a girl isn't something easy to do for a guy... especially since most parents would be weirded out by crossplay to begin with. So if your parents are supportive, you have a soundproofed room, live on your own, or have an understanding roomate... then go for it. Lucky biatches...

P-chan

Alexia Ikyu
06-30-2003, 12:00 PM
Originally posted by Mizuno Tenshi
Umm... trying to explain why you're trying to sound like a girl isn't something easy to do for a guy... especially since most parents would be weirded out by crossplay to begin with. So if your parents are supportive, you have a soundproofed room, live on your own, or have an understanding roomate... then go for it. Lucky biatches...

P-chan

That and weirding out your roommates is extremely fun on a hot day. :D

Cyber Surfer
06-30-2003, 09:32 PM
*blinks*

The only thing I know of that can do something like that is a voice changer... but I've only seen ones that plug into phones, or are generally very visible. I went looking over the net and didn't come up with much, though I was looking for one that was like in I My Me Strawberry Eggs (basically a necklace-type voice changer).

I don't know how to help really ^_^; Maybe you know someone who's good at electronics that can help?

Dr. Makoti Jean
06-30-2003, 09:50 PM
Originally posted by Cyber Surfer
*blinks*

The only thing I know of that can do something like that is a voice changer... but I've only seen ones that plug into phones, or are generally very visible. I went looking over the net and didn't come up with much, though I was looking for one that was like in I My Me Strawberry Eggs (basically a necklace-type voice changer).

I don't know how to help really ^_^; Maybe you know someone who's good at electronics that can help?


That will be awesome to have! *dreams of all the characters she can pull off with a device like that and the mischievious things she can do* ::evil grin: ^,^

Goth Kitty 22
06-30-2003, 11:57 PM
Well, I did a search and found this article:
http://heartcorps.com/journeys/voice.htm

So now at least you have a choice into which is more embarassing, practice changing your voice or reading these sites we link to in the Crossplay forum. :rolleyes:

DigitalShin
07-02-2003, 12:25 PM
0_o Sometimes it can come natural. My voice does tend to change up and down. I'm often "Ma'amed" at work even when I say my name. ^_^;

RHIshida
07-02-2003, 04:40 PM
Here's a site you should try looking at: http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/4996/Voice.htm It's got just about everything detailed on how to sound female.

Juno
07-02-2003, 10:42 PM
Sounding female just takes a lot of practice. I'm a girl and even I have to practice sometimes. -_-' What I want to know is, does anyone have any tips on sounding like a GUY? ^_^' Any help would be appreciated.

odango-mango
07-05-2003, 12:48 AM
practicing a few times a day should help. First dertermine what type of range you wish to acheive, low sultry, soft-high etc.
Since most men have a raspy or low voices you'll have to practice exercising your vocal range. Maybe write down some lines the character would say listen to their vocal clip and try to imitate it.
If you have a mic on your comp try recording your voice and listen to the play back, you can then decide what you want to change.
You don't have to pay tons of money to work with your vocals. You can do it on your own. If you need some coaching or help I'd be glad to lend a hand.
I've done some voice work before and crossing over to mens voices was a lil hard but not impossible.


edit: here's a sample clip of mine ^^;;;

http://lstudios.com/sample.mp3

I'd be happy to help in any way I can.

RHIshida
07-08-2003, 11:10 AM
Well, for me it wasn't -that- hard to sound female because I'm a singer, it just took -alot- of practice. Practice makes perfect, so if you find a voice that sounds femme enough (or masculine) for your liking, practicing speaking in that voice first so you know what it sounds like, then try practicing going in and out of that voice so you can go back to it whenever you need to, without compromising your natural voice (To keep parents from being too suspicious)

Goth Kitty 22
07-08-2003, 12:37 PM
It is the same with trying to sound female. To sound male, you can't just lower your voice. The real sound isn't what you'd expect it to be.

RHIshida
07-09-2003, 04:06 AM
Yeah, you can't just try to speak in a higher pitch to sound female because you just sound like a guy trying to sound like a woman, likewise you can't just talk in a deeper pitch to sound male, because you just sound like a woman trying to sound like a man. I've learned that the key to sounding different is resonance. I learned how to cut the resonance out of my voice, and even without changing the pitch I noticed my voice didn't sound the same, (Especially when I played it back through my computer, I was weirded out XD) Many women have what is considered deep voices and they still sound like women, because women don't have as much resonance in their voices. To speak male, you would do the opposite, try to add resonance into your voice. I dunno how hard it is to add resonance into your voice, somebody try it and see.

coeli
07-16-2003, 01:07 PM
Hmm, just monkeying around, I think I've achieved the added resonance, and it sure sounds more masculine to me. It isn't too hard for me, mostly I think because my voice tends that way a bit anyhow and I have singing training. But, there's nobody around to practice on and I *hate* listening to recordings of my own voice, so proof will have to wait.

--Coeli

Drackt
03-05-2004, 03:32 PM
Right now, I've been playing around with the Drac accent. Strangely enough, I've always thought that having the experience in choir and doing plenty of exercises for 5 years has helped. And I've been listening to Gackt sing and try to imitate him...his voice is quite rich asnd resonant.

topleka
03-05-2004, 05:25 PM
Okay, here's topleka's great guide for sounding like guy. This is for girls mostly yes, yes.

1 - Pitch. Yes, I know a lot of people have said that pitch isn't everything, and that's very true. But pitch is a lot. Pitch is more than gender. It's personality. High is cute, medium is casual, lower can get really sexy. The point is, in most cases you'll have to speak in a different range, which can be terrible on your vocal chords unless you work your way into a pitch slowly. When I do cute girl voices, I can't just start talking at my highest range. Vocal warmups normally are the key. Breath deeply, making sure your stomach expands, not your chest. Sit up straight (or stand). Now sing a scale. You don't even have to be in tune. Just go in the direction you want, higher or lower. Do it again, starting from your last note until you reach your threshold. Say a few words. Get used to the feel of your voice. Hum. Now stop. Don't hurt your throat. Relax, then go again until you feel comfortable doing it. Hint: drinking hot liquids helps relax vocal chords and make the voice lower.

2 - Location location. Men and women speak from different areas of the throat. Girls normally speak from the front, while guys speak more from the back of their throats. Girls, try to come more from the back of your throat. Make a growling noise, like a dog. Feel the vibrating area? That's where you should be speaking from.

3 - Pronunciation of words. Yes, guys and girls really do pronounce their words differently. Girls are softer when they say their words, stringing their vowels together. Guys tend to put an emphasis on the consonants. Often, girls will get higher as they finish their sentences. Guys tend to taper off and go lower. Other words have specific things that are emphasized by different genders. Listen to some guy friends and gal friends and try to hear the difference.

4 - The rasp and the accent. If you watch anime, you'll notice that often times boys voice by girls will have really raspy voices. This helps to mask the feminine tone that can sometimes be overriding. It's okay to speak with a growling voice, but not so much that the vocal chords begin to hurt. Be sure to keep your throat nice and un-parched, or else you'll have to suffer the consequences, and they aren't pretty. Another technique that can be employed by both genders is the addition of an accent. Now obviously if your character doesn't have an accent, you won't want to add a very strong one. But girls can add a subtle British accent (Cockney or Australian, really) to sound more guy-ish.

5 - Practice. Seriously. Speak out loud. Talk loudly, quietly, sing, and say all sorts of things. Do it for your friends. To be on the safe side, you might want to save it for your cosplaying friends only. Just remember to be nice to your throat and it will be nice to you. I'll try to post some clips later on that might help.

::phew:: I hope that helped.

dani
03-05-2004, 10:36 PM
I have a set of the Melanie Ann Philips method in Real Audio format, from way back when it was free for the asking. It has probably been improved and expanded on its commercial version, but if anybody is interested in these old files just PM me. The set is about 7MB.
Dani

Drackt
03-05-2004, 10:38 PM
Thx, great guide.

I actually tried the accent out on a coworker today, and she really thought it sounded great. :bigtu:
I wonder how the guy coworker I'm working with tomorrow will think of it...

RoxieRocket
03-06-2004, 01:49 AM
HA I am glad I found this thread. I had been looking around for electronic voice changers, but I gave up on that (for now >_>) and went back to practicing altering my voice myself. I get mistaken for a guy sometimes on the phone (though I really can't see how O_o) but so far when I am actually trying my guy voice sounds like freakin' Keanu Reeves. Augh! XD

I practice in the shower. :D

Drackt
03-07-2004, 05:21 PM
Tried it on Bryan last night...he said it was good (and pretty confusing hearing that voice come out of a girl :razz: ), BUT he pointed out that when I yell, I sort of dip back into my normal voice. At least I have something to work on....

Forlorn79
03-10-2004, 11:29 PM
This is something you don't do at the last minute, that's for sure. Search google for more detailed advice but I'll give you what I know.

-Pitch is not important. Don't make your voice higher pitched, then it just sounds squeaky and it's harder to maintain for extended periods of time.
-The key is figuring out where to resonate your voice from. Guys speak through their chest and sometimes their lower throat. Women use their head and upper throat as a resonance chamber.
-The best way to learn is by imitating women around your age talking.

I think this is right on. When talking in my "normal" voice, which I had to learn to make deeper over time, I created more resonence. If you reduce that vibration, speak out of your mouth and not deep within, you can change the timber of your voice without simply raising the pitch. Pretend your a kid again, instead of a supermodel. ;-)

Esa
03-12-2004, 01:11 PM
<delurk>http://www.tsvoice.com/</delurk>

Decibella
03-15-2004, 02:57 PM
My natural voice is very deep and loud and resonant which is handy as a dj but not convincing as a crossplayer. Even though i can imitate and do all sorts of voice impressions pretty well, I never change my pitch or timbre when crossplaying unless I lower it more! I just think it is way to hilarious to startle and confuse people with a deep sonorous voice coming out of a pretty gothic lolita "girl". (The avatar is of me btw)

The reactions are priceless...

Forlorn79
03-15-2004, 03:07 PM
That's an impressive picture! It's true; many sexy feminine voices are low pitched, but without the reverb and with more inflection. Just don't go too low, or it will create confusion, because most women can't do it. It gets tricky when you are trying to do a voice of a specific character, but it's always good to try and practice!

marsman57
03-15-2004, 06:05 PM
(snip away)

Forlorn79
03-15-2004, 06:53 PM
My voice has always been quiet, but it shouldn't be too much of a problem. It's something that can be worked on, but I never felt the need to put too much effort into it. If the character called for lots of yelling, then I'd worry.

Ethereal
04-01-2004, 09:06 AM
Here's a site you should try looking at: http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/4996/Voice.htm It's got just about everything detailed on how to sound female.


That's any extremely good guide which I'm trying. But meh, I haven't got a clue what some of the words mean and I'm tone-deaf anyway so things don't look good LOL.

Chino-San
04-13-2004, 12:11 PM
I say have a high pitched voice. But the problem is majority of the time you sound like a drag queen! Or very very gay

Forlorn79
04-13-2004, 12:26 PM
I say have a high pitched voice. But the problem is majority of the time you sound like a drag queen! Or very very gay

Remember that it's also a matter of supressing the deep resonance in your voice, and not talking in the same monotone way men talk, but flowing your voice like a woman does. It's not entirely different from being flaming, but just don't get carried away, but keep it natural.

Chino-San
04-13-2004, 12:28 PM
It'd a lot easier said than done -_-; I read the site and don't understand a thing he says.

Kirin-Riki
04-13-2004, 01:31 PM
for me, i would just learn very good body-language (Dang)
but it sounds like a bad idea anyways... boohoohohoo

Karisu-sama
04-13-2004, 03:58 PM
I doubt there's much hope for this mezzo-soprano to sound believably like a guy. I generally just go into "disciplining my kids or dogs" voice, which is more resonant and projects more from the diaphragm that usual - I THINK it sounds lower. :p

X_NightMare_X
04-13-2004, 03:59 PM
Ill need to do voice for my Aeris outfit, but that guide relly didnt help at all. I sat in my backyard practicing for hours upon hours but came up with nothing. If anyone can put that in English id appreciate it.

Chino-San
04-13-2004, 04:00 PM
I agree I don't understand a thing that guy wrote.