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Oshi
06-30-2008, 02:56 PM
IGN unveiled the confirmation of Rock Band 2 in an interview with Harmonix's Dan Teasdale. It's due out this September on 360, with other consoles at later dates (PS3 in November?)

http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2008/06/30/wake-up-rock-band-2-hitting-this-september/

Most info will be unveiled at E3, but here's some key notes we know so far:
-All RB1 hardware is compatible with RB2, and vice versa. No need to buy anything new, unless they do end up adding another instrument.
-The new RB2 guitar is a delicious wireless 3-Color Sunburst Stratocaster with 'rosewood fretboard'. Looks to have some awesome woodgrain design to it.
-Just like the hardware... All RB1 DLC will be playable in RB2! As well as the other way around! Unified DLC for the Rock Band platform, basically.
-Retail disk is rumored to have 120 songs on it.

Good ol' Harmonix, innovates then perfects. Can't wait to see the improvements they made.

Art is a BANG
06-30-2008, 03:14 PM
Huh really rock band 2.sounds like these video game companies are going all out.

Oshi
06-30-2008, 04:01 PM
...What does that even mean? Gtfo troll, nobody derails my threads.

Art is a BANG
06-30-2008, 04:11 PM
what um i didn't mean it like that.sorry sorry .i just meant that video game companies are at the top of there game and they atre going all out to stay there.im not a troll *goes into dark cornner and crys*

GraelynRose
06-30-2008, 07:33 PM
Do want! :D

Mesoian
06-30-2008, 09:14 PM
Let's see if the the GH4 stuff works with the RB2 stuff first.

Rockband was the better game, but GH had better guitars. Damn Stratocaster kept breaking...

4ng31
06-30-2008, 11:04 PM
Let's see if the the GH4 stuff works with the RB2 stuff first.

Rockband was the better game, but GH had better guitars. Damn Stratocaster kept breaking...

Do you really even need to wait for an answer...of course it's not gonna work. Hell, it's still rumored the GH2 & 3 equipment won't work for 4...

Anyways, seconding the DO WANT!!!

Pliskin
06-30-2008, 11:37 PM
One more reason to NOT care about the Guitar Hero franchise... ever.

Zero_Gravity
07-01-2008, 12:01 AM
I never cared for Rock Band OR Guitar Hero, I never got the joy in it...
Then again...
I... am more of the RPG/Hentai/Fighting gamer... :: scratches chin ::

Mesoian
07-01-2008, 02:09 AM
Do you really even need to wait for an answer...of course it's not gonna work. Hell, it's still rumored the GH2 & 3 equipment won't work for 4...

Anyways, seconding the DO WANT!!!

Well it's not up to activision in this case, the ball is purely in harmonix's court. Just like with Rockband to GH compatibility, Harmonix would have to actively disallow activision controllers on rockband 2 for them not to work. Otherwise, it's just another 3rd party controller being detected.

I only mention this because it looks like the GH4 guitar is gonna be WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better than the rockband one. I hope Harmonix doesn't shut that one out due to spite.

Oshi
07-01-2008, 03:53 PM
I'm pretty sure Harmonix is the one who's been pushing for open controller standards, so they won't actively shut it out. The only issue is if RedOctane changes up the way the hardware reads completely for the GH4 guitar. That would also knock out the GH2/3 guitars.

Activision, however, wants EA to pay royalties for Harmonix's shit to be able to use their guitars or something? Tch.

I seriously never thought I'd see the day where I'd root for EA over Activision after that EAWife crap, heh.

JaxReaper
07-02-2008, 10:40 PM
This doesn't really come as much of a suprise, though I am pretty excited for it. I hope they release an improved drum peripheral, because with GH4's 4pads, 2symbols, kick pedal setup and Rock Revolution's full drum set(1snare, 2drums, 3symbols and a kick pedal), the RB1 drums look kinda weak.

MaryRyanBogard
07-07-2008, 12:04 AM
Um, I love RB and everything, but...

After Harmonix denying a sequel, swearing that RB was just gonna have additional download content, be a "platform", they announce a ******* sequel when the first game hasn't even been out for a year and is only just now reaching non-US shores! :mad: Needless to say, I'm nowhere near the "do want" camp.

4ng31
07-07-2008, 03:04 AM
Um, I love RB and everything, but...

After Harmonix denying a sequel, swearing that RB was just gonna have additional download content, be a "platform", they announce a ******* sequel when the first game hasn't even been out for a year and is only just now reaching non-US shores! :mad: Needless to say, I'm nowhere near the "do want" camp.

So...the rumored (by Harmonix) over 100 new songs, on disc mind you, doesn't justify the 60 dollar price tag...right...

penny_dreadful
07-07-2008, 10:57 AM
From a friend's Livejournal:

"Says IGN 360 editor Nate Ahern:
Rock Band 2 and Guitar Hero World Tour create an interesting situation for gamers. If you bought Rock Band 1 then chances are you'll feel cheated by the release of RB2, thus you'd think that GHWT would be the way to go as it somewhat redefines the music gaming genre. However, if you didn't buy the first Rock Band then I would absolutely agree with notagoth. Immediately upon purchasing Rock Band 2 you'll have the ability to download a huge library of songs, as well as all of the songs off of the original disc as a free download. Then again, Guitar Hero World Tour does allow users to create and share their own songs, so it's really only a matter of time until the Rock Band library is eclipsed. At the end of the day it could come down to which series has earned your allegiance over the last year since RB's original release."

I've seen some leaked songs and rumored songs for RB2, and I am EFFING PSYCHED. Yeah, they could have just put it all on as downloadable content, but I think since the equipment will be compatible between both games it's worth the price just to get my hands on all those juicy, delicious songs at one go, to echo what 4ng31 was saying. I could name all the names here, but there's simply too much awesome for one post to fit.

Mesoian
07-07-2008, 10:58 AM
Um, I love RB and everything, but...

After Harmonix denying a sequel, swearing that RB was just gonna have additional download content, be a "platform", they announce a ******* sequel when the first game hasn't even been out for a year and is only just now reaching non-US shores! :mad: Needless to say, I'm nowhere near the "do want" camp.

Well then GOOD NEWS!

This is still a rumor, but the news in the tubes is that if you buy Rockband 2, it gives you an XBLA/PSN key which allows you to download all the songs in Rockband 1, free of charge.

This was in response to the suprising robustness of Guitar Hero 4's create a song.

And if you bought it on the Wii, you're just dumb.

Oshi
07-07-2008, 11:29 AM
Well then GOOD NEWS!

This is still a rumor, but the news in the tubes is that if you buy Rockband 2, it gives you an XBLA/PSN key which allows you to download all the songs in Rockband 1, free of charge.

This was in response to the suprising robustness of Guitar Hero 4's create a song.

And if you bought it on the Wii, you're just dumb.
I would think, actually... Not so much a download, but an application within RockBand2 that tells you to put the RB1 disk in, and it rips all the songs to the harddrive.

Which would WIN SO VERY HARD.


Also! A couple rumored leaked songlists!
http://www.joystiq.com/2008/07/06/rumor-rock-band-2-setlist-leak-uncovered-by-two-sources/

penny_dreadful
07-07-2008, 11:44 AM
Rush - The Trees

OH THEY MUST.

LordDeus
07-07-2008, 01:11 PM
Rush - The Trees

OH THEY MUST.

Seconded! That and Dream Theater - Panic Attack = EPIC WIN for me!

Quantum9
07-07-2008, 03:03 PM
Given the popularity of TTFATF, I'm a bit surprised that neither game has decided to use more Dragonforce music, especially with the band supposedly working on a new CD. Not one single Dragonforce song has appeared on a leaked playlist for either game, which comes as a big surprise.

And the Wii version of Rock Band is pretty bad, but at least it's better than the glitch-tastic PS2 version. Also, considering World Tour will FINALLY have some form of DLC for Wii, it's a safe bet that RB2 will do the same.

MaryRyanBogard
07-07-2008, 03:50 PM
So...the rumored (by Harmonix) over 100 new songs, on disc mind you, doesn't justify the 60 dollar price tag...right...

It's not about quantity of songs. What if of those 100 on-disc songs, 80 turned out to be crap?

Well then GOOD NEWS!

This is still a rumor, but the news in the tubes is that if you buy Rockband 2, it gives you an XBLA/PSN key which allows you to download all the songs in Rockband 1, free of charge.

This was in response to the suprising robustness of Guitar Hero 4's create a song.

And if you bought it on the Wii, you're just dumb.

No, it's not that either.

It's that Harmonix said they wouldn't do a sequel, the game hasn't even been out for a year and only just recently saw a European release/hasn't yet seen a Japanese release.

Oshi
07-07-2008, 04:28 PM
No, seriously, why are you complaining about getting an improved interface and all? Remember the jump in quality between Guitar Hero 1 and 2?
That's what we're looking forward to, all our complaints in RB1 being fixed. Easier instrument/profile switching, better sorting of songs and difficulty, Online World Tour mode, etc etc.

This is what Harmonix does. Innovates, then perfects. We're anxious for their perfection.

I understand your concerns about releasing the sequel so quickly, but the end result seems damn worth it to me.
And I'm thinking at this rate, Japan might just get RB2 off the bat...


Also, Re: Rush; GOD YES, how did I miss that on the list? That's a phenomenal song to use, I completely overlooked it in my excitement for Closer to the Heart coming out tomorrow, hahah.

Mesoian
07-07-2008, 04:39 PM
It's that Harmonix said they wouldn't do a sequel, the game hasn't even been out for a year and only just recently saw a European release/hasn't yet seen a Japanese release.

Well that's just silly if you didn't think there would be a sequel. Even set top boxes need upgrades, at least they're being sensible about it and not screwing late adopters too harshly. On top of which, if you don't feel like buying RB2, RB2 DLC is the same price and works on RB1. So you're still fine.

Though what we may see is the same sort of delay in other regions that we're seeing here.

But ultimately, I don't care. I don't own RB1, and if I get RB2, I can borrow my friends disk and get everything on RB1. So I'm going to uncharacteristically not care about the rest of the market and be greedy towards this.

penny_dreadful
07-07-2008, 04:55 PM
Also, Re: Rush; GOD YES, how did I miss that on the list? That's a phenomenal song to use, I completely overlooked it in my excitement for Closer to the Heart coming out tomorrow, hahah.

Yes, yes, but it's about trouble with the trees. How can you top it? YOU JUST CAN'T.

Incidentally, are Sam and I the only ones who clap twice after every "closer to the heart?"

4ng31
07-07-2008, 10:02 PM
It's not about quantity of songs. What if of those 100 on-disc songs, 80 turned out to be crap?

And how many of the songs on RB1 are crap? Not many...

Also, if you own RB1, think of this as a shit load of new DLC...but all half off...I still don't see how people can be upset over it...100+ songs for 60 bucks...the individual tracks for DLC cost .99-1.99 a piece...for this, you're paying roughly .60 cents a song...with more songs, the price gets even lower.

kuko-chan
07-08-2008, 05:20 PM
And how many of the songs on RB1 are crap? Not many...

Also, if you own RB1, think of this as a shit load of new DLC...but all half off...I still don't see how people can be upset over it...100+ songs for 60 bucks...the individual tracks for DLC cost .99-1.99 a piece...for this, you're paying roughly .60 cents a song...with more songs, the price gets even lower.

I was about to mention the same thing. Considering the number of songs you're getting, I think it's a sweet deal.

But as someone mentioned, what if a majority of the songs on RB2 are songs you personally don't like? It would seem to make more sense in their eyes that they pay the extra bit for songs they're familiar with and already enjoy via DLC. Just playing devil's advocate here... :sunburn:

Either way, I have no PS3 or Xbox, so if I want to play this riffer madness, I'll need to fork out the cash. I'm just hoping they include an old Genesis track on there. Phil Collins' drumming, Steve Hackett's guitar skills, and Peter Gabriel's vocals would rock so hard!

MaryRyanBogard
07-09-2008, 09:19 AM
Since I'm still being called on not going ga-ga over "100+ new songs", let me explain. I was at one point a big fan of "King of Fighters", which was known for putting out sequels annually, and it was always a whole new game (we're talking a series that got started in the 32-bit era here). From KoF '94 (the first game) to '98, each new KoF was an improvement over its predecessor. KoF '99, however, marked a radical departure from the rest of the series and didn't really feel like a KoF game at all. From then on, it seemed there was a new KoF every year just for the sake of there being a new KoF every year. I pretty much fell out of the KoF fandom at that point, I don't even know who half the characters are any more. So you can see why I'm a bit jaded when it comes to yearly sequels.

My bitterness also stems from JK Rowling. She made all sorts of claims, if not promises, regarding her last book. A high percentage of those claims turned out to be lies, and furthermore her last book did not resolve any of the issues with her previous book (for that matter, her previous two books). She was obviously banking on the fact that the book was new and part of a beloved series to be enough to sell it. So you can see why an RB2 announcement after months of swearing there'd be no such thing (and meanwhile all that's really been announced are shiny new peripherals and "over 100 on-disc songs") doesn't have me jumping up and down and opening my wallet.

Here's another analogy: there's this wonderful mom-n-pop store up the street. You and most of the neighborhood love that store, and the owner swears that while they will constantly add new merchandise, they won't make a whole new store. The store's not without its issues, but everyone's still satisfied and happily keeping the place in business. Next thing you know, that store has become a Wal-Mart or whatever franchisee. Everyone else is squeeing over the "lots and lots of new merchandise", the flashy new sign, etc. (never mind that the issues as mom-n-pop store aren't addressed or anything). You just feel betrayed and resent the owner for breaking his/her promise.

It also kills me that many of the same people who were strongly against the idea of RB2 before are now practically already camping out in front of their local Game Stop.

In any case, everything's summed up here (http://maryryanbogard.deviantart.com/art/An-open-letter-to-Harmonix-90961951).


But as someone mentioned, what if a majority of the songs on RB2 are songs you personally don't like? It would seem to make more sense in their eyes that they pay the extra bit for songs they're familiar with and already enjoy via DLC. Just playing devil's advocate here... :sunburn:

Thank you! As it is, there are still several songs on the existing disc I could've done without (and haven't since grown to love). Further driving the "I'm not blindsided by the promise of 100+ new on-disc songs" point home.

penny_dreadful
07-09-2008, 11:13 AM
My bitterness also stems from JK Rowling. She made all sorts of claims, if not promises, regarding her last book. A high percentage of those claims turned out to be lies, and furthermore her last book did not resolve any of the issues with her previous book (for that matter, her previous two books). She was obviously banking on the fact that the book was new and part of a beloved series to be enough to sell it. So you can see why an RB2 announcement after months of swearing there'd be no such thing (and meanwhile all that's really been announced are shiny new peripherals and "over 100 on-disc songs") doesn't have me jumping up and down and opening my wallet.

WUT.

Oshi
07-09-2008, 12:02 PM
BAWWWWWWWW
http://www.joystiq.com/2008/07/09/rock-band-2-details-wireless-instruments-playlists-drum-train/

Please shut up now. Don't pass further judgment until after E3 when we get the full scoop.

penny_dreadful
07-09-2008, 12:52 PM
http://www.joystiq.com/2008/07/09/rock-band-2-details-wireless-instruments-playlists-drum-train/

The customizable playlists are like some kind of godsend, but I think the drum instructions would be worth it alone for me, because I am pathetically lost when it comes to the drums.

allthatsgeek
07-14-2008, 03:04 PM
full track list revealed!

http://kotaku.com/5025004/breaking-official-rock-band-2-tracklist-revealed

Oshi
07-14-2008, 03:09 PM
The Rock Band 2 (http://www.joystiq.com/tag/rock-band-2) press release, which included the final set-list (http://www.joystiq.com/2008/07/14/rock-band-2-on-disc-track-list-revealed-features-over-80-songs/) for the game, also mentions that Rock Band content from the discs will be transferable to the sequel, but for a price. The release states that "owners of the original Rock Band will have the ability to export most of the Rock Band disc tracks and upgrade them into Rock Band 2 gameplay-the first time ever in videogame history!" You will need to pay an unlocking fee to do so, which will be "under 5 dollars."

Sounds good to me!