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Archelon
07-16-2008, 02:06 PM
I definitely did not see this one coming. I expected Capcom to port Dead Rising to PS3 or PC, sure, but never to the Wii. However, that's exactly what they're doing. But before anyone can say "dumbed down port with waggle, LOL," the graphics are surprisingly faithful to the 360 version. The screens are relatively small, but you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference, save for the new HUD and Wii features.

It will essentially be the same game as the 360 version, but it will feature a more RE4: Wii Edition-styled combat system. In fact, the aiming reticle is the same as the one in RE4: Wii Edition, and you can even see Frank equipped with Leon's handgun from RE4. Similar to RE4: Wii Edition, you will shake the remote to fend off zombies who are attacking you, but you will also swing the remote to slash with a katana or swing a golf club, for example.

The cutscenes appear to be taken straight from the 360 version, similar to the PS2 version of RE4, so it's unlikely that they will be realtime as they were in the original. And aside from the new HUD, the game also has a new inventory system as well.

Scans from the latest issue of Famitsu can be found here:

http://wiieveryday.blogspot.com/

I, for one, am very intrigued.

Lady Muramasa
07-16-2008, 02:10 PM
How's there lawsuit going? Lol, I remember that but never heard the outcome. Like only one person would think of zombies at the mall come on.

I should buy a Wii, that's the only platform out now that I don't have, interesting to see how that(dead rising) turns out on the Wii.

Archelon
07-16-2008, 02:16 PM
Nothing ever really happened with the "lawsuit." In fact, George Romero himself had never even heard of the game, let alone the lawsuit that was being brought against it.

LordDeus
07-16-2008, 03:10 PM
But but, no matter how you slice it, it'll still be a "dumbed down port with waggle, lol."

Sorry but 480p maximum and no 5.1 = dumbed down.

Shaking wii-mote to fend off zombies = "waggle"

Either way its nice to see the Wii getting some more arguably "hardcore" titles such as Dead Rising. The gamers with only a Wii definitely need some more titles such as this. So good for them!

Archelon
07-16-2008, 03:25 PM
But but, no matter how you slice it, it'll still be a "dumbed down port with waggle, lol."

Sorry but 480p maximum and no 5.1 = dumbed down.

Shaking wii-mote to fend off zombies = "waggle"

We evidently have very different ideas of what constitutes "dumbed down" and "waggle." I'll just leave it at that.

UPDATE:

1Up has translated the key information from the article and posted it online:

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3168849

Evidently, the game will no longer be time based, as it was in the 360 version. Instead, they've opted to go for a more GTA-styled approach to the mission structure where you're given several different missions to choose from and complete at your leisure. The game's story will advance as you complete the missions as opposed to continuing on regardless of what missions you have or have not completed as in the original.

Also, photography has been removed, which is a shame. I wonder how the leveling up system will work in this game, since leveling up in the 360 version relied almost exclusively on taking pictures.

Pliskin
07-21-2008, 11:14 AM
http://kotaku.com/5027111/dead-rising-wii-screens-where-did-all-the-zombies-go

Well, looks like Wii isn't capable of churning out the large crowds the 360 is.

Archelon
07-21-2008, 01:13 PM
http://wii.ign.com/articles/892/892333p1.html

Capcom has officially announced Dead Rising: Chop Till You Drop for a winter release this year in America.

LordDeus
07-21-2008, 07:43 PM
Yup.

Dumbed down port is dumbed down...











...with waggle

Quantum9
07-21-2008, 08:23 PM
You know, I was going to make a clever rebuttal to Pliskin and LordDeus, but then again I realized the Wii isn't really worth defending at this point.

LordDeus
07-21-2008, 10:56 PM
You know, I was going to make a clever rebuttal to Pliskin and LordDeus, but then again I realized the Wii isn't really worth defending at this point.

Eh I guess a witty remark to my flamebait would be deserved, but in all honesty, what is there to argue? It's certainly not mine nor Pliskin's fault that the Wii's hardware is lacking. We knew this from the very beginning.

I completely agree with you though, even if I wanted to defend the Wii, why bother? After watching the post E3 interviews with Reggie and Cammie Dunaway I lost even more respect for Nintendo. Though it doesn't seem those two are to blame. I think Nintendo just dealt them a crappy hand, and they just had to make due at E3. But saying the first game you've ever played through completely was the recently released Professor Layton doesn't help your credibility either (I'm looking at you Cammie). Or saying that Animal Crossing is Nintendo's answer to the "core" gamer....*cough* Reggie *cough*.

It's still undeniably great that they are even giving Dead Rising a chance for Wii owners who have no other options. We all know the Wii needs more of these. Sadly, though, other than 1st person titles and a select few(Conduit comes to mind), developers don't want to take the risk with more games aimed at the core audience.

Quantum9
07-22-2008, 12:32 AM
The issue is simple. With most consoles, the games are what define them. It's the exact opposite with Wii. And given what third-parties have given the system so far, I'd say it's a case of guilty until proven innocent.

Then again, it's hard for me to consider there to be any less respect for Nintendo. They've still made some of the best games in the history of the industry. I think Tycho from Penny Arcade said it best...it's deliciously ironic that for Nintendo fanboys to gain their ultimate wish (Nintendo back at #1), it came at the cost of any form of respect that the company had for them.

I have no doubt that Dead Rising will do well, but unlike with an upgraded (somewhat) port like RE4, a downgrade like this will be a bit harder to swallow. It'll be interesting to see if this, Conduit, and MadWorld can find success...at least the only success that's seemingly possible for these games on Wii.

FinalEVA
07-22-2008, 12:33 AM
I played the 360 version a bit, and it wasn't really my favorite game in the world. I guess it's good that Wii owners will get to try this out.

Eh I guess a witty remark to my flamebait would be deserved, but in all honesty, what is there to argue? It's certainly not mine nor Pliskin's fault that the Wii's hardware is lacking. We knew this from the very beginning.

I completely agree with you though, even if I wanted to defend the Wii, why bother? After watching the post E3 interviews with Reggie and Cammie Dunaway I lost even more respect for Nintendo. Though it doesn't seem those two are to blame. I think Nintendo just dealt them a crappy hand, and they just had to make due at E3. But saying the first game you've ever played through completely was the recently released Professor Layton doesn't help your credibility either (I'm looking at you Cammie). Or saying that Animal Crossing is Nintendo's answer to the "core" gamer....*cough* Reggie *cough*.

It's still undeniably great that they are even giving Dead Rising a chance for Wii owners who have no other options. We all know the Wii needs more of these. Sadly, though, other than 1st person titles and a select few(Conduit comes to mind), developers don't want to take the risk with more games aimed at the core audience.

I think many Nintendo fans were disappointed in their E3 showing this year. It seems they went into it with the same attitude that Sony did in 2006 - they are the boss and it doesn't matter at this point. On the same token, Sony fans were not too thrilled either at E3. This was definitely M$'s E3.

I really miss Nintendo NES through GC generations. They found out their core market just wasn't lucrative, so now they are going for the casuals. Now they have the "Reality Television" phenomenon to video games.

Quantum9
07-22-2008, 12:47 AM
I think many Nintendo fans were disappointed in their E3 showing this year. It seems they went into it with the same attitude that Sony did in 2006 - they are the boss and it doesn't matter at this point. On the same token, Sony fans were not too thrilled either at E3. This was definitely M$'s E3.

I really miss Nintendo NES through GC generations. They found out their core market just wasn't lucrative, so now they are going for the casuals. Now they have the "Reality Television" phenomenon to video games.

I know I'm getting wickedly off topic here, but it's really hard for me to consider MS with the best showing, especially since they've decided to rip off Nintendo wholesale. Microsoft's strength isn't casual titles - it's hardcore games like Halo and Gears, plus the best online service on the planet. My feeling is that Sony and MS (moreso MS) should just stick to what they do best and let Nintendo have their bottle.

Sony had the best showing, but it's only because they stuck to their guns - showed great games. They didn't have the punch-in-the-gut announcment that MS had (FFXIII), but they did have a lot of high-quality stuff that definitely may sell some systems, especially as Blu-Ray starts to garner a bigger userbase.

But I don't think anyone can deny that Nintendo was an ungodly embarassment. They pretty much did everything short of peeing on an NES.

LordDeus
07-22-2008, 01:05 AM
They pretty much did everything short of peeing on an NES.

Ironically enough, Reggie relieving himself on a NES would probably INCREASE Nintendo sales.

Off-topic I know, but I had to say it.

Simmaria
07-22-2008, 04:12 AM
successful troll is...successful. lorddouche, you never had respect for nintendo to lose it to begin with.

Hell at least this is something other then neopets puzzle quest. its using the RE 4 engine which is cool, but didn't everybody on the planet want a RE 2 remake instead? I think this game is more geared toward the jp audience that ignored it for obvious reasons on the 360 over there, and is capcoms way of making this into a franchise series popular in its native home land.

LordDeus
07-22-2008, 05:15 AM
successful troll is...successful. lorddouche, you never had respect for nintendo to lose it to begin with.

Hell at least this is something other then neopets puzzle quest. its using the RE 4 engine which is cool, but didn't everybody on the planet want a RE 2 remake instead? I think this game is more geared toward the jp audience that ignored it for obvious reasons on the 360 over there, and is capcoms way of making this into a franchise series popular in its native home land.

Oh joy cosplay.com's favorite fanboy graces this thread with his presence! Oh hey, you have a little Miyamoto drippin on your chin there, you should wipe that off.

I've never had respect for Nintendo? Since the release of the Wii, my faith and respect for Nintendo has dropped significantly, that much is undeniable. But I grew up loving Nintendo, like most gamers did. I still respect them for giving me some of the best experiences in gaming I've ever had. I think Nintendo are steadily following the path of the sell-out. And if you enjoy having your love for Nintendo exploited as much as they enjoy taking advantage of you, then by golly, get back on those knees son!

Simmaria
07-22-2008, 07:10 PM
wow do they actually allow you to type those words in the jr. high school library computers? you better hope your guidance counselor doesn't find out or your mom is gonna be pissed!

TheAnarCHris
07-22-2008, 07:38 PM
Hey guys, Gamespot called, they want their forums back. Also, in b4 "your momma".

Anywho, getting back on topic, I'm really not feeling the port. Okami coming to the Wii makes sense, as that game was awesome, and easier to port as it was a PS2 title that sold 5 copies. Dead Rising...eh...game wasn't that hot to begin with, and since it seems to be removing a lot of features that were in the 360 version. Between that and the Re0 port (I'm excluding the RE4 port, b/c that game was still solid the 3rd time around), I can't say I'm pleased with the way Capcom's treating the Wii. Needs more Zack and Wiki, less shovelware. Thank god from MM9.

Arc_The_Lad
07-22-2008, 08:58 PM
Sounds fun, I'll try it when it comes out.

Also, BAM one more reason to not get a 360.

Pliskin
07-25-2008, 07:31 PM
Sounds fun, I'll try it when it comes out.

Also, BAM one more reason to not get a 360.

Yeah, if you like 12 badly rendered zombies in your zombie survival game, instead of 300+.

Arc_The_Lad
07-25-2008, 10:12 PM
Sorry for trying to save money.

Pliskin
07-25-2008, 11:32 PM
Sorry for trying to save money.

Oh, there's nothing wrong with trying to save money, but that doesn't have anything to do with game quality. The fact that the wii version is looking at best, lackluster, and at worst, shovelware, is what matters.

Quantum9
07-26-2008, 12:32 AM
"I can't say I'm pleased with the way Capcom's treating the Wii. Needs more Zack and Wiki, less shovelware."

But unfortunately, Capcom isn't alone. That's how every third party is treating the Wii. Ubisoft is still trying to find more cute words the can stick "Imagine" at the front of and "z" on the end of. Sega's got MadWorld, but they also have Sonic turning into a werewolf and swinging a sword. EA has decided to dumb their sports properties to "complete moron" difficulty. Games like these are the rule, not the exceptions. And unfortunately, based on how third party games on the Wii are selling, I really can't blame the lack of effort.

Archelon
07-26-2008, 03:24 PM
Oh, there's nothing wrong with trying to save money, but that doesn't have anything to do with game quality. The fact that the wii version is looking at best, lackluster, and at worst, shovelware, is what matters.

Well, it's nice to see you've finally given up trying to hide your already thinly veiled trolling.

LordDeus
07-26-2008, 06:30 PM
Well, it's nice to see you've finally given up trying to hide your already thinly veiled trolling.

Seriously? Hypocrite much? Oh cosplay.com never ceases to amaze me. I don't have a problem with trolling when its done by a regular, hell we're all guilty of it. Arch, c'mon, Pliskin was only attacking your fandom with his comment. You and Simmaria need to get over yourselves. You guys take these forums way too seriously.

Still, maybe we can squeeze something out of this whole mess. Arch, maybe you could teach Simmaria how to write a more wittier comeback for the next time he decides to take a stab at an insult.

FinalEVA
07-26-2008, 07:04 PM
This generation, console affiliation is taken as seriously as religious or political affiliation. Although I've had my fair share of fanboy moments.

demifiend
07-27-2008, 04:16 AM
This generation, console affiliation is taken as seriously as religious or political affiliation. Although I've had my fair share of fanboy moments.

Indeed. I'm looking forward to a future where we don't fight over race or religion or money, but are instead divided into massive, technologically advanced super-armies based on which console we choose to champion.

Pliskin
07-27-2008, 08:14 AM
Well, it's nice to see you've finally given up trying to hide your already thinly veiled trolling.

The wii version DOES look like crap. PS2-graphics, at most 12-14 zombies on screen, what looks like pretty bad draw distance for enemies. That wasn't trolling, i gave decisive points as to WHY the game looks terrible. Part of the allure of the 360 version was the desperation you felt each day as more and more zombies poured into the mall. Fighting through a living tide of undead flesh. Not 12 freaking zombies with a sword that's aliased enough it looks like a chainsaw.

If anyone's a fanboy, it'd be you, for simply not admitting a bad port looks like a bad port because its on your "can do no wrong" Wii console.

Quantum9
07-27-2008, 08:26 AM
The wii version DOES look like crap. PS2-graphics, at most 12-14 zombies on screen, what looks like pretty bad draw distance for enemies. That wasn't trolling, i gave decisive points as to WHY the game looks terrible. Part of the allure of the 360 version was the desperation you felt each day as more and more zombies poured into the mall. Fighting through a living tide of undead flesh. Not 12 freaking zombies with a sword that's aliased enough it looks like a chainsaw.

If anyone's a fanboy, it'd be you, for simply not admitting a bad port looks like a bad port because its on your "can do no wrong" Wii console.

Opinion much? I won't speak for Archelon, but I'm pretty sure he's criticized the Wii numerous times. You didn't give decisive points, you merely gave your own opinion. If someone else wants to say otherwise, then be my guest.

Or are you just going to pull a "What I said was fact, I'm never wrong?" statement?

Pliskin
07-27-2008, 08:34 AM
Opinion much? I won't speak for Archelon, but I'm pretty sure he's criticized the Wii numerous times. You didn't give decisive points, you merely gave your own opinion. If someone else wants to say otherwise, then be my guest.

Or are you just going to pull a "What I said was fact, I'm never wrong?" statement?

If anyone actually read the Kotaku article I posted, they'd know what I'm referring to. Unfortunately, looks like nobody did, and everyone jumped down my throat.

So please, explain to me how the game "doesn't" look like a PS2 game?

Archelon
07-27-2008, 09:46 AM
Part of the allure of the 360 version was the desperation you felt each day as more and more zombies poured into the mall. Fighting through a living tide of undead flesh.

Um, what game were you playing? There was no such sense of desperation in the game. The fact that you could just run right through the middle of the crowds of zombies without so much as a scratch is proof of that. Heck, Frank even pushed them out of the way on his own as he was running, with no need for a button input from the player. If anything, Dead Rising only proved why the early Resident Evils needed tank controls. Otherwise, zombies are next to no threat whatsoever, even in large numbers.

If Frank in Dead Rising for the Wii controls like the characters in Resident Evil (it hasn't been said yet if he will or not, I'm just proposing the possibility based on the information we have), then this version could potentially prove more tense than the 360 version, even with the greatly reduced number of zombies.

If anyone's a fanboy, it'd be you, for simply not admitting a bad port looks like a bad port because its on your "can do no wrong" Wii console.

Kind of like you and the PS3, amirite?

You apparently are under the impression I think it's going to be awesome simply because it's on the Wii, yet you think it's going to be horrible simply because it's on the Wii (just look at your post in the Mad World thread). How is that any different?

At least I'm willing to wait until the game is actually released to pass judgment. You see a few early screenshots and automatically write it off. Heck, the 360 version looked significantly worse when it was first unveiled than it did when it was finally released.

If anyone actually read the Kotaku article I posted, they'd know what I'm referring to. Unfortunately, looks like nobody did, and everyone jumped down my throat.

Funny you mention that, because if you had read the information I posted about the game, you'd see that they're not trying to make the same exact game as the 360 version on the Wii. If they were, then your complaints would be more valid. I initially thought it was going to be a straight port of the game with the necessary graphical downgrade (though it still looks remarkably faithful to the 360 version).

That, however, is not the case. Capcom isn't even advertising it as the same game. It's an entirely different beast. The game is being built from the ground up for the Wii using the Resident Evil 4 engine (which is ultimately why I'm optimistic it'll look better in the final version). It will still follow the same basic storyline as the 360 version, but the gameplay will be significantly different. Arguably enough to call it a totally different game.

As for the number of zombies on-screen at once, again, these are still early screenshots. While there obviously will not be the same amount of zombies even in the final build as there were in the 360 version, I'm willing to give Capcom the benefit of the doubt that they'll be able to do what they can with what they have. They are, after all, one of the few developers who have been willing to really push the Wii in terms of its graphical power, arguably even moreso than Nintendo itself. It also doesn't hurt that they're using an engine that has already proven itself many times over as one of the best on the system.

Pliskin
07-27-2008, 10:30 AM
ranting

You misunderstood my original statement. Please try posting again when you comprehend it fully.

Capcom has NEVER screwed up something, right? Go ahead, continue to have blind faith. But all you have are guesses and ideas. I'm pointing at a screenshot and saying its crap. I'm pointing at a gameplay idea and saying its crap. You can talk about how something will be magically wonderful if its done a certain way and creates an entire new genre defining experience, but its still crap in its current form.

Essentially its this. Its impossible for me to dislike a game because I think the game is a bad idea. No, it must be because of the system its on. If you do not see the amazement and wonderment in the design of a game for a particular console, then you must be a fanboy. Because someone doesn't like mario, they are a fanboy. If you don't agree with me, you're a fanboy.

That's all that's going on around here.

FURTHERMORE, if you're so sure that the Wii is such a great console, and holding its own with new and fresh and interesting gaming ideas, why the heck do you care what some "trolls" like myself and Deus have to say, hmm? That is, unless there's some little niggling doubt in the back of your head about the fact. That maybe, just maybe, this game doesn't look anywhere near as interesting or as awesome as you've been telling yourself it is. Why even give a crap what we have to say then, if its so blatantly, and totally trollish and wrong?

Archelon
07-27-2008, 02:46 PM
FURTHERMORE, if you're so sure that the Wii is such a great console, and holding its own with new and fresh and interesting gaming ideas, why the heck do you care what some "trolls" like myself and Deus have to say, hmm? That is, unless there's some little niggling doubt in the back of your head about the fact. That maybe, just maybe, this game doesn't look anywhere near as interesting or as awesome as you've been telling yourself it is. Why even give a crap what we have to say then, if its so blatantly, and totally trollish and wrong?

I suggest you ask yourself that same question next time you take offense at someone saying something bad about the PS3.

Pliskin
07-27-2008, 09:43 PM
I suggest you ask yourself that same question next time you take offense at someone saying something bad about the PS3.

There's a difference between ignoring a "troll", and correcting someone who is wrong, or having an intelligent discussion with them. The first person to throw out the "fanboy" insult is usually the one most deserving of it.

Simmaria
07-28-2008, 09:48 PM
Wow this thread just got more awesome! I find it particularly interesting that another console war thread erupts out of a dead rising Wii game. It pretty obvious all the named parties are biased in one form or another yet everyones gotta have the last word.

Why dont you HD whores just wait for the finished product to be released and play it before standing on your johnson and johnson soap boxes decrying anything and everything associated with the game, nintendo, and the Wii in general. Not that your opinion would change on the game even if the director Kawano came and gave each person who bought the game a blow job. I think you should just adopt the stance nintendo has on its core gamer audience, which is "Why fucking bother" and just ignore the next thread detailing Lost Planet: Shoot till your Freeze on the Wii. Unless of course bitching about wii games is the only way you can still get it up and doing so is the only way to justify your existence anymore.

Pliskin
07-29-2008, 07:30 AM
Wow this thread just got more awesome! I find it particularly interesting that another console war thread erupts out of a dead rising Wii game. It pretty obvious all the named parties are biased in one form or another yet everyones gotta have the last word.

Why dont you HD whores just wait for the finished product to be released and play it before standing on your johnson and johnson soap boxes decrying anything and everything associated with the game, nintendo, and the Wii in general. Not that your opinion would change on the game even if the director Kawano came and gave each person who bought the game a blow job. I think you should just adopt the stance nintendo has on its core gamer audience, which is "Why fucking bother" and just ignore the next thread detailing Lost Planet: Shoot till your Freeze on the Wii. Unless of course bitching about wii games is the only way you can still get it up and doing so is the only way to justify your existence anymore.

Roughly translated "waaaah, you're makin fun of wiii, its the bestorz evar!!! How daer j00!!!!"

I suggest scrolling back up, and actually reading what happened before posting drivel like that which was already addressed a page or so back.

Cheer up Nintendo Fan.

demifiend
07-29-2008, 12:11 PM
You know, perhaps it would be a good idea to ask a mod if we can make a no-holds-barred console war thread, at least so those of us with an axe to grind can get the venom out in a thread without derailing topics that at their core are not console war-related.
On the other hand, everybody can just set up accounts at www.neogaf.com and watch themselves be utterly decimated by thousand-foot tall console warriors on a forum where swearing and ad hominem attacks are A-OK.

ELFanatic
07-29-2008, 12:25 PM
You know, perhaps it would be a good idea to ask a mod if we can make a no-holds-barred console war thread, at least so those of us with an axe to grind can get the venom out in a thread without derailing topics that at their core are not console war-related.
On the other hand, everybody can just set up accounts at www.neogaf.com and watch themselves be utterly decimated by thousand-foot tall console warriors on a forum where swearing and ad hominem attacks are A-OK.

It wouldn't do anything. People are so sensative about consoles anymore. You mention a game and somebody starts a console war. It's redundant, tired and boring. And I think they really feel like they have something new to bring to the table even after repeating the same thing fifteenth times in a thread. Whatever delusion they want to live in I guess.

But I agree, it would be cool to talk about a game without a console war.

Archelon
07-29-2008, 12:30 PM
But I agree, it would be cool to talk about a game without a console war.

It'll never happen.

Simmaria
07-29-2008, 06:45 PM
not on this forum, thats for damn sure.

FinalEVA
07-29-2008, 08:11 PM
You know, perhaps it would be a good idea to ask a mod if we can make a no-holds-barred console war thread, at least so those of us with an axe to grind can get the venom out in a thread without derailing topics that at their core are not console war-related.
On the other hand, everybody can just set up accounts at www.neogaf.com and watch themselves be utterly decimated by thousand-foot tall console warriors on a forum where swearing and ad hominem attacks are A-OK.

LOL. Gamefaqs, Gamespot, IGN, 1UP, VGChartz, Youtube etc. Are there any gaming forums where 80% of the discussions are not about console wars now days? Sales, pixel-counting, company evil-doings, list wars, frame-rate comparisons...

demifiend
07-29-2008, 11:47 PM
GAF is definitely not a console war battlefield. They'll eat you alive if you try. Thats what makes it so much more appealing than any other game forum, at least as far as I am concerned.

Quantum9
07-30-2008, 12:07 AM
GAF is definitely not a console war battlefield. They'll eat you alive if you try. Thats what makes it so much more appealing than any other game forum, at least as far as I am concerned.

You're kidding right? Every time a thread is made about one of the consoles a war commences on thet forum. Basically it becomes a battle over who can make the most clever troll comment, with the losers being given the old banhammer.