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Wyna Hiros
07-24-2003, 06:44 PM
[Deleted. Sorry, left Cosplay.com due to lack of time/interest]

zoinomiko
07-24-2003, 07:02 PM
Mwah, I've been a huge fan of FAKE since forever. ^^ *points to ghetto Berkeley Rose cosplay (http://www.carriesager.com/berkeley.htm)* And my past four computers have been named after FAKE characters (Dee, Ryo, Bikky [RIP], Cal).

For a while I was going to do Diana cosplay, but I realized that no one would have the slightest idea who I was. >.> I might do it anyways, though. Because Diana is Just That Cool.

Michi
07-24-2003, 07:16 PM
I've read the first three volumes of the manga.. but I lost them. ._.;; Fake is one of my favorite series ever, though. A lot of people are turned off by the art, so I'm glad you weren't after watching the OAV. ^_^; Read iiiiiit! The manga is tons better than the anime, too~

Wahaha *pounces Carrie* I WILL be Dee someday!! :D!!

baku_neko
07-24-2003, 07:16 PM
Read FAKE! It's full of shonen ai goodness!

Nikol
07-24-2003, 07:24 PM
I have FAKE...

I'm just happy that TokyoPop is getting some yaoi manga out there. I had seen the DVD about a year ago and started to look stuff up but there was not much out there. Hopefully now there will be since I really enjoy the series

rainbowflavored
07-24-2003, 10:39 PM
i only have the first tokyopop volume... i need to get the second one! eee! i've also seen the ova. too bad there's not any more than that volume. :( it was really nice.

Scortia
07-24-2003, 10:50 PM
<3 Fake... I thought the OAV was amazing, and then I read the manga and was really amazed. <3 JJ It's so cute... it really is... and I rather love the style. The story is rather excellent for being a shounen ai manga.

zoinomiko
07-24-2003, 11:56 PM
I want to smack JJ upside the head. ^^; Except when he's being all angsty. Then <3 JJ.

Karasu
07-25-2003, 03:35 AM
I love FAKE!!!!!!!! I have the two manga Tokyopop has released and the OVA. I like the manga better than the OVA, for my own reasons. But I own the OVA none the less.

JJ annoys me!! >< I feel so sorry for Dee when ever he comes to bother him. Poor Dee.

Nikol, I love your avatar!!! *laughs* Hisoka is really awesome! I can't believe the first thing he summoned was a talking cactus wearing a cowboy hat. I laughed so hard when I read that. ^_^ I believe I will be cosplaying Tsuzuki at Anime Iowa. That is if I finish the coat in time. I have until August. *keeps fingers crossed*

vyrax778
07-25-2003, 04:35 AM
Hmmm I liked the manga well i guess ill have to check out the OAV now hopefully my friend will loan it to me.

Scortia
07-25-2003, 09:29 AM
*waves to Carrie* Bah, JJ is adorable. *_* But since you cosplayed Berkeley, you probably wouldn't have much tolerance for JJ. ;P I like JJ, but I don't want him to break up Dee and Ryo (shner, I need more manga) because it's just too amusing to see Ryo being all wishy-washy all the time. ^^;;

Nikol
07-25-2003, 09:59 AM
For me JJ is annoying but I don't mind him around too much. In the OVA (not gotten the second volume due to cash issues) it was Berkley Rose who really annoyed me. JJ seems like a harmless fanboy for Dee and thereby poses no threat t Ryo, but Berkley seems like he could be trouble or Dee...

But remember this is all based on only the OVA

Karasu, I think the cactus is great but it's a running joke with me and my friends tha Hisoka is trying to get it away by telling people they want his cacuts. Otakon thi year I'm going as Byakko but hopefully next year I can pull off Hisoka... I'm just having some issues of which costume to do for him.

zoinomiko
07-25-2003, 12:45 PM
Berkeley's smooth. That's why he's awesome. :D

Oh, yeah, I also <3 JJ when someone's actually calling him "Jemmy J" instead of JJ. Who calls someone by their middle initial? It's just so cute! :D

Scortia
07-25-2003, 03:03 PM
You know a yaoi title is good when all the characters are, for the most part, loveable. ^.^ Thus the appeal of Yami no Matsuei and Gravitation as well. I think my favorite character would have to be Dee though... reminds me of Doumyouji Tsukasa combined with Kinomoto Touya (and I have an unhealthy addiction with Tsukasa especially and also with Touya ~_~;; ) *sigh* I need a boyfriend. ^^;;;;

Velvy
07-25-2003, 04:02 PM
I love FAKE. Carol's my favorite by far. But I love all the characters. ^_^

Sidenote: FAKE has the best kissing scenes I've ever seen in a manga.

Michi
07-25-2003, 08:27 PM
Originally posted by Velvy
Sidenote: FAKE has the best kissing scenes I've ever seen in a manga.

YES. YES IT DOES. It really, really does. *_* fizzle.


Scortia, did you know that the voice of Kinomoto Touya, Seki Tomokazu, is Dee Laytner's seiyuu in the anime? ^_~

Dee's my favorite. He's my hero. I want to be like Dee. Ahahaa.

Scortia
07-26-2003, 09:45 AM
Yep, Seki is my pimping-mack-daddy! ^o^ He's such a man whore but he doesn't look the part like Miki or Koyasu. That's why they forced him to be Ken. :P I want to be like Dee too... bold and loving. *_* And yep, those are the best kissing scenes. My friends and I were reading the first manga on the way back from A-kon on the plane. They eventually fell asleep leaving me alone with the manga... I was just waiting for someone to accidently see what I was reading. O.o

Karasu
07-26-2003, 04:35 PM
By: Velvy
Sidenote: FAKE has the best kissing scenes I've ever seen in a manga.
This is true!!!!!!!!!! *falls into a happy FAKE coma*

Nikol, the cactus joke is hilarious!!! I would love to see a Byakko at a convention. I barely saw the main characters, much less the gods. There were a few YnM cosplayers at AnimeExpo, but not a whole lot. My friend want to cosplay Hisoka also. I thought it was a good idea for her to cosplay Hisoka on the night Muraki put the spell on him. I was thinking about the red writing on his body and it could easily be done with good body paint. I suggested it, but she hasn't decided yet. *looks back at paragraph* Wow, that's kind of long. *laughs*

Scortia
07-26-2003, 08:12 PM
Whoo, hail more Shikigami! I'll do Kijin one day. *points at costumes* When I have too much money and time on my hands. ^^;;

Karasu
07-27-2003, 12:12 AM
Kijin!! *_* That would be interesting and a little hard. All the detail on the kimono will take a while, but it would really be worth it!! ^_^

Susumari
09-12-2003, 11:56 PM
I have the first 2 right on my shelf...and i do have to read it! grrr. I didn't know it was an anime first. i thought the manga just came out, but oh well hey can't blame me, i don't know everything. but i just loove staring at the pics. now i need to see the anime.

megumibish
09-13-2003, 01:37 AM
heh I love Fake. I adore Bikky myself. Older Bikky is soo cute! Dee is so adorable too he is so like Kei Enjonji from Kizuna. I rather like the art style. That and the fashion is 80's hip it seems. I love the unrelenting UST thou' it's nice vanilla shounen ai compared to what I usually read...^^;; the ova is good too. Hopefully Tokyo Pop will bring over Kusatta Kyoushi No Houteishiki(Bad teacher's equation) More fun shounen ai!!

ACXchan
09-13-2003, 02:20 AM
Aww I love ALL of the characters, even the little side ones like Chief XD I think Sanami Matoh did a wonderful job with the romance in FAKE, throughout every single of the seven volumes which is amazing to me. In my opinion it's probably the best series ever to depict a gay relationship in a modern day setting *with* believable heterosexual relationships going on at the same time.

Personally I dig JJ XD I sort of have a thing for DrakexJJ ^ ^;;;

So.... who else noticed what the title FAKE actually stands for XD;;;?!?

Karisu-sama
09-13-2003, 03:24 AM
Fake OAV is cute, but I'm pleased that the manga has a lot more story(s)... I gotta say I prefer the manga (only have the first 2 volumes so far.) I like it, even if a lot of it is "how many excuses can the author come up with to get Dee and Ryo in a sexy liplock"? :p

Obviously the artist is a bit clueless on some things - Bikky with the straight bright-blond hair looks like NO half-black kid I have ever known in my life (and I have several of them in my family)...

Yes, please enlighten my ignorance - what DOES the title stand for? (Not like I've looked for any meanings, since so many Engrish titles are fairly nonsense and have nothing to do with the story - can we say "Bubblegum Crisis"?)

megumibish
09-13-2003, 10:56 AM
hehe when I used to live in Long Beach I knew someone who was half black with straight blonde hair. It's just an extreme rarity. ^_^ I still adore Bikky^_^ About the title I'm clueless as well. ^^;

ACXchan
09-13-2003, 01:21 PM
Dee and Ryo in a sexy liplock is the best XD!

For those of you who have the manga, either the Japanese one or the American one, look through volume 2. On page 147, after Dee's just whooped Hank Liesure's ass and Ryo's just about coming along... you see Hank flipping Dee off and shouting "FAKE YOU!!!!" XDXDXD

Karisu-sama
09-13-2003, 07:29 PM
Aha! I see! Well, maybe the title stands for that, or maybe she's just being "clever".... :p

Susumari
09-14-2003, 05:44 PM
oh yea...with the "Fake" titles, like with Bikki's hat...it says Fake on it. hmm i still have gotten that...what's with the "fake" jw. everyone keeps asking me.

ACXchan
09-15-2003, 01:59 AM
LOL XDXDXD "Fake you!" is littered throughout the manga, always written in slightly ilegible english script. I think it would make sense if that's what the FAKE title stands for... so many people flip each other off in the series and shout "Fake you!" or you can believe that it's titled FAKE because Dee achingly wants to... FAKE Ryo ^ ^;;;

Michieru
09-15-2003, 12:05 PM
Dee and Ryo in a sexy liplock is the best XD!

For those of you who have the manga, either the Japanese one or the American one, look through volume 2. On page 147, after Dee's just whooped Hank Liesure's ass and Ryo's just about coming along... you see Hank flipping Dee off and shouting "FAKE YOU!!!!" XDXDXD
Couldn't have said it any better! I'm also glad Tokyo pop is finally releasing some more yaoi graphic novels. I happen to write a ton of yaoi stories whenever I'm not so busy with college and such. Most of them I write about the Ronin Warriors. I'm soon coming up with my first fake fanfic which I've been writing for the past few months on and off. Man, if they ever had a yaoi fan fic contest, I'm surely bound to win! Yaoi is like my life, in a more cute bishounen way that is :love: :thumbsup:

baku_neko
09-15-2003, 01:19 PM
Has anyone bought or seen volume 3? It was supposed to be in stores on the 9th and I still can't find it anywhere, and TP is usually pretty good about releasing stuff on time.

Lady
09-15-2003, 01:58 PM
Has anyone bought or seen volume 3? It was supposed to be in stores on the 9th and I still can't find it anywhere, and TP is usually pretty good about releasing stuff on time.

I double checked planetanime.com, and they have the release date as 9/9, but they also have it out of stock and a 2+ week wait. So perhaps TP got behind or some shipments got lost?

The Fake OVA was the first shonen-ai/yaoi joy I'd ever bought (I found it, with subs, in a Suncoast Video store about three or four years ago...trust me, I was shocked when I saw it*laughs*), and it was much fun. Having since seen Legend of Blue Wolves and Ai no Kusabi since then, I'm not quite as easily 'wow'ed as I used to be. However, I do agree that the Fake manga has fantastic and utterly hot m/m smooches.

Oh, and the sex scenes in volume 7*drools* If only it were a bit more graphic....*wishes*

-Lady

ACXchan
09-15-2003, 02:43 PM
I personally think Dee and Ryo should get married. I never got my hands on Sanami Matoh's art book so I don't have the FAKE epilogue in Monotone T__T! But... knowing the current legal battles over gay marriage I guess Sanami Matoh wouldn't have thought to include such an element in her series ^ ^;; Still, Dee and Ryo are the most loving and least angsty/melodramatic couple in any yaoi series I've ever seen. Personally I think Dee and Ryo beat Yuki and Shuichi by several miles XD

I reeeeeally want Dee and Ryo to make a cameo in Sanami Matoh's new series Trash @D@

Michieru
09-15-2003, 03:36 PM
I personally think Dee and Ryo should get married. I never got my hands on Sanami Matoh's art book so I don't have the FAKE epilogue in Monotone T__T! But... knowing the current legal battles over gay marriage I guess Sanami Matoh wouldn't have thought to include such an element in her series ^ ^;; Still, Dee and Ryo are the most loving and least angsty/melodramatic couple in any yaoi series I've ever seen. Personally I think Dee and Ryo beat Yuki and Shuichi by several miles XD

I reeeeeally want Dee and Ryo to make a cameo in Sanami Matoh's new series Trash @D@
I think so too! A little ditzy, but really cute! I'm thinking about buying the manga novels soon.

Susumari
09-16-2003, 03:34 PM
I finally finished reading the 2nd. They have the best stuff in there!!!! and Bikky and Carol....AWWW! lol. and when i read what was going to happen in the 3rd with dee and ryo...ohhh man was i...woooo! This is far the best i've ever read. all the way FAKE! ehh hem

ACXchan
09-17-2003, 01:00 AM
Michieru: I think so too! A little ditzy, but really cute!

Ahahaha you're not alone XD I can see Dee and Ryo acting like the guys in the scrapped Guinness commercial (Stand By Your Man) it'd be so hilariously sweet.

For some reason I keep hearing people say how Dee and Ryo are gonna consumate their relationship in vol. 3... I don't know where this came from but for the misinformed, don't get your hopes up ^ ^;; Berkeley and Diana (I love this woman!) pass out alot of smoochies though XD

Karisu-sama
09-17-2003, 03:03 AM
For some reason I keep hearing people say how Dee and Ryo are gonna consumate their relationship in vol. 3... I don't know where this came from
This came from the teaser blurb at the back of Volume 2, which strongly implies.... things. :p (But of COURSE the artist will want to drag that tension out forever. So I doubt it.)

Susumari
09-17-2003, 11:18 AM
no! i hate teases. I was so looking forward to the 3rd volume. but no matter what i'll be in for it. But i never have money to buy anime or any mangas.

ACXchan
09-17-2003, 12:07 PM
Karisu: This came from the teaser blurb at the back of Volume 2, which strongly implies.... things.

Oh I see it now... one fiery hot scene or something... Dude TokyoPop shouldn't tease people like that @D@;; The Christmas story in vol. 3 *is very sweet* though ^ ^

Hand Maid May
09-17-2003, 12:46 PM
yeah, don't they uhh..you know..do it like in the last volume?!?

I bought the OVA, well actually I made my boyfriend by it for me cuz it was funnier that way heh heh heh.....and then of course I had to get the mangas. I was soooooo glad TP was releasing it, I didn't want to have to buy the japanese versions, but I would have , if thats what it was goona take!!

heh heh heh, but I already got the scans for the dirty part *snicker* complete with ummm..interesting translations supplied by a friend!! heh heh heh..good ole fake

Yeah,l i really like Dee and ryos relationship, and Dee and Bikky are hilarious, but besides that, thats the only yaoi I have ever seen/read but alot of reviews said there relationship was all lame and not accurate..uhhh..okaaaay.....so I am glad that other people thought it was all cute and sweet too!!

heh heh heh, when I first saw this thread I was forced to go back and watch my fake DVD again, this time in japanese...it's Haru and Kyo!! haha hahah..I love seki-kun, hes soo awesome!

ACXchan
09-17-2003, 05:59 PM
Hand Maid May: thats the only yaoi I have ever seen/read but alot of reviews said there relationship was all lame and not accurate

Booooo those reviewers don't know what they're talking about! Just because FAKE doesn't have the angst, tragedy, and traditional "cold seme" x "pretty uke" relationship doesn't make it inaccurate. Part of the appeal of FAKE for me is the fact that it avoids all those clichés XD I also love how Dee openly states that he's *bisexual* god that man rocks XD!!

Hand Maid May
09-18-2003, 01:38 AM
yeah..now I am wondering if those reviews were mostly for the ova..its been awhile..I guess it would make sense then cuz the OVA didn't have alot of time to really develop the relationship, much better int he manga, but I have nothing to compare it to soooo....

hahahha...I love Dee he is soo awesome, hes just so darn forcefull it cracks me up!! I love his mood shifts from all serious and then hes this big goof.....

Susumari
09-26-2003, 08:29 PM
...exaclty! Dee all the way...and all the little flirtation....ahhh

>falls over<

ORLANDO BLOOM!
bwhahaha everytime i see you..i'm going to do that

Dawn
09-26-2003, 11:20 PM
FAKE makes me happy xD

The manga cracks me up so much, I swear-- Dee is my hero.

i want to read the third volume soon~! ;_;

Susumari
09-26-2003, 11:35 PM
lol...it was so funny cause i saw that u replied to my anime costume thread about fake. yea, someone needs to have pics so use raging fangirls can see. but, i do need to get the 3rd...come on..soon soon

ACXchan
09-27-2003, 01:47 PM
Who wants FAKE pictures? I don't have Sanami Matoh's artbook (though I'm trying to get it grawr!) but I do have alot of FAKE pictures. What kind of pictures are you looking for exactly ^ ^?

baku_neko
09-27-2003, 11:39 PM
ARGH! I saw Fake 3 AND Gravitation 2 in a comic book shop today!!!! AND I HAD ONLY 6 BUCKS WITH ME!!! I couldn't buy them. T_T

It's about time Fake 3 hit the shelves, but isn't Gravi early?

Karasu
09-30-2003, 11:49 PM
Originally posted by: ACXchan
Who wants FAKE pictures? I don't have Sanami Matoh's artbook (though I'm trying to get it grawr!) but I do have alot of FAKE pictures. What kind of pictures are you looking for exactly ^ ^?

Oooooooooohh!!!! Me!! Me! I want FAKE pictures! What kind? Anything and EVERYTHING! Please take pity and send me an e-mail. ;_;

I finally got FAKE 3, but I didn't see Gravitation 2. Damn! Now I have to go back and check. By the way, Bikky is hilarious once again! "Be gone, foul beast!!!!!!!!!!!!" *laughs*

ACXchan
10-01-2003, 09:30 PM
Well I can scan pictures and things from the manga series since I have all seven volumes ^ ^ I also have some pictures lying around the hard drive taken from various sources. Sanami Matoh's website has some FAKE pictures on it. I have a FAKE drama CD too, I can scan the cover art @D@?

Karasu
10-06-2003, 11:04 PM
Originally posted by: ACXchan
Sanami Matoh's website has some FAKE pictures on it.

What is her website?? I didn't know she had one. ;_; Ugh.

ACXchan
10-07-2003, 02:24 AM
Yes, she has a site XD The title picture for it right now is a picture from her latest BexBoy running series called Trash. Ready for her site's url... ready ready??

www.sanami-matoh.com

XD

-add-

If anyone can figure out the name of the series running in Zero Magazine, featuring that really hot brunette Japanese swordsman, I will love you n.n

baku_neko
10-07-2003, 03:03 PM
Yes, she has a site XD The title picture for it right now is a picture from her latest BexBoy running series called Trash. Ready for her site's url... ready ready??

www.sanami-matoh.com


Such pretty art! ^_______^

Hmm...it seems she is a Zoro (from One Piece) fan....she has two fan arts of him in her Gallery section, under Other. Nice. ^_~

Susumari
10-07-2003, 03:15 PM
eeeeeeeeee! ^_^

ACXchan
10-07-2003, 07:38 PM
Not only does she have a fanart but she also has a fanbook on Sanji and Zoro XD! You can buy it from the shop linked on her site.

Karasu
10-08-2003, 12:29 AM
^_^ *happiness*

Michi
10-08-2003, 03:25 AM
Ooo, FAKE 3 is out? I already have the Japanese 1-3 (well I did.. I think I lost them when I moved last year =/) but I'm buying the English versions anyway. FAKE is one of my favorite manga ever, so I am all about supporting the domestic release. :bigtu: I'll have to get #3 ASAP then!

ACX, Matoh's series running in Zero is called "-YOU-". ^^ Wow, I wanna pick it up. I love the designs... *-*

ACXchan
10-09-2003, 08:36 PM
Michi: ACX, Matoh's series running in Zero is called "-YOU-". ^^ Wow, I wanna pick it up. I love the designs... *-*

Oh... -YOU-.... well isn't that a simple name @D@ It *does* look gorgeous XD! That ponytailed bish with the sword's got me interested. Demon girl looks pretty cool too and the silver-haired demon guy reminds me of Aoi Satan from Sakura Taisen.

FAKE 3 is out btw but not all book stores have it in stock yet. Like I went to Borders and they told me it's been released but they're still waiting to get the order in, bah. I'm a bit of a freak completist so I feel this need to buy *all* of the english volumes even though I have the Japanese ones already x_x;

Susumari
10-09-2003, 08:40 PM
yea..the ones here don't have it yet. but i doooooo need to get!

Michi
10-10-2003, 02:25 AM
I'm a bit of a freak completist so I feel this need to buy *all* of the english volumes even though I have the Japanese ones already x_x;

Yup. That's how I am too. XD Well, not with everything. Just with Fake. ;_; Dee-samaaaa~

ACXchan
10-10-2003, 03:35 AM
LOL that and maybe because I can't read much Japanese for shite XD

The english version offers all the little notes and comical one liners I wouldn't have caught in the Japanese manga, like the constant chief vs. detectives @D@!

Karasu
10-20-2003, 01:33 AM
I love the little notes!!

Oh, by some grace of the TP universe, I bought Volume 4 this last Saturday! *huggles* I have no idea why it was there, but I bought it and I have been in happy Fake land ever since. ^_^

baku_neko
10-20-2003, 12:13 PM
VOLUME 4!?!?!?!

Geez, I had enough trouble finding 3, and you already got your hands on 4?!?!?! Soooo lucky!

RoseDuelist
10-21-2003, 10:07 PM
I JUST DISCOVERED THIS!! WHAHA!! I am so in love with it now.. *points to sig* I just worry about the infamous volume 7.. <.< But hey, I'll still read it... just skip the uncomfy parts.. lol..

But Dee and Ryo are so cute. They are so sweet and there is this one part in the second volume where Dee has his head resting on Ryo's lap and Ryo leans over and kisses him.. aww!! CUTENESS!

*cough*

Edit: Oh yeah, must agree with the kissing thing. They are absolutly.. *cough*.. :love: I got into Fake because of Gravitation. I picked that up at AM and then I told my friend how much this Yaoi/Shounen-ai thing was affecting me.. I loved it.. he suggested Fake.. Now I have the OAV, 2 mangas, the third manga on hold, and art on my computer up the wazoo... lol! AM was less than a month ago.. XD lol!!!

Fake has also got me back into FanFiction. I got really bummed reading a bunch of crappy fics out there, but the Fake Fan Fictions are actually really good!! I'm amazed.. I've even started writing my own..

Karasu
10-25-2003, 08:44 PM
I thought that quote was hilarious! "We are going to bang an M rating into this pathetic excuse for a Manga.." Dee- Fake When I read that, I was laughing for at least five minutes! ^_^ I root for Dee all the way.

RoseDuelist
10-25-2003, 11:57 PM
I know.. he's so great.. ^.^ Ryo is such a lucky guy....

I was just watching the OAV today.. they should make the second half of the second manga into an OAV too.. Actually.. they should just make the whole darn thing into anime.. *cry* I wanna see them... err... animated more.. #^.^#

Michi
10-26-2003, 12:51 AM
Yeah.. I saw volume 4 at Japantown this week and.. blarr I need to save up and get 3 and 4. XD

Fake yaaaay. They'll have all of it over here pretty darn soon~ since it's only like 7 vols. o.o

RoseDuelist
10-26-2003, 01:33 AM
Ah yes... infamous volume 7... Dee will get his wish with that volume by, er.. read my sig... ^_~

Mile High Comics needs to get the shipment for #3 in.. I've been waiting for a while.. grr...

Setsuna22
11-06-2003, 07:45 PM
I just finished reading volume 4 today! It's so sweet, I find myself giggling at the silliest things. Dee is just so desperate, and Ryo just can't seem to take a hint!

Have you noticed that the art gets progressively better with each volume? Dee keeps getting sexier and sexier.... it's wonderful!

ACXchan
11-06-2003, 08:40 PM
Setsuna22: Have you noticed that the art gets progressively better with each volume?

That's cause the FAKE manga is kinda old XD It ran in BexBoy back in 1993 or so. I guess Sanami Matoh was just perfecting her artwork around then. Her most recent artworks (visit her site!) of Dee and Ryo are *divine* XD~

Michi
11-07-2003, 12:09 PM
Must get vol 3 & 4 ;_; Maybe when I have money after Christmas.. hm..

*blinkblink* ACX... She has new art of Dee & Ryo on her site? O_O Her site was hard to find stuff on... oh my gosh I must see these. *_*;;;

ACXchan
11-08-2003, 05:35 PM
Michi: *blinkblink* ACX... She has new art of Dee & Ryo on her site?

Well... new as in art that's post-end of FAKE manga ^ ^;;? FAKE manga ended years ago but she did a few drawings for the series afterwards, like for the drama CD.

http://www.sanami-matoh.com/gallery/illust/d08.html

That pic came as a little sticker for the 2002 FAKE drama CD ^ ^ You can see the change of artstyle although that's also because that pic is a CG piece.

She had a solo pic of Dee surrounded by birds of paradise up there earlier this year but she must have taken it down because it's not there anymore @__@! She either uploads images temporarily or she rotates her artwork cause there are a few other pictures I saved from January that are no longer in her gallery.

Under the category "analogue" there's a veerrryyy sweet christmas pic of Dee and Ryo ^ ^

Michi
11-08-2003, 06:25 PM
I know it ended years ago. :p Didn't know there were newer CD dramas though... Man I'd love to get my hands on those. x_x The older dramas, too..

(Meh, I don't like that new art.. ^^;;; The Christmas one was nice, but... Am I the only one that liked the kinda odd art in the manga itself? Those kisses are so sexy..)

ACXchan
11-08-2003, 06:38 PM
Aww I dig the Christmas piccie XD The CD drama one is cute but it's so... rounded I guess is the word @D@? The details are soft and round as oppose to the coarser details she does in the manga.

I like both styles but I *am* slightly disappointed over how Matoh's cutting down the detail in her new series. She doesn't put as much detail into hair like she did with FAKE boo >_<;

Michi
11-08-2003, 06:51 PM
Well, Fake was really spread out and took a long time to complete.. She's probably doing less detail to get more manga out quicker.

I didn't say the Christmas picture was bad. XP I just prefer the old art. ;_; Yeah, roundish.. I know what you mean.

RoseDuelist
11-12-2003, 04:11 PM
From what I read about what she says she wanted to make more FAKE oav's, but now that I realize how old this series is I'm thinking that was just wishful thinking? Too bad.. I would have loved to of seen the Christmas thing at the end of Volume 3 made into an oav. *pout* That is just too sweet...

Susumari
11-16-2003, 09:09 AM
i saw the 3rd manga at AnimeNation...eeek! i wanted to stay there and read it. damn! i forgot to read the back...

Michi
11-17-2003, 01:51 AM
On RoseDuelist's OAV comment... Fake would make a good TV series. >/ It's got that annoying anime thing where the protoganists take forever to admit their feelings (at least of them). Pleh. XP

nixxer
11-17-2003, 08:47 AM
Fake is just amazing, I love it. Its my favorite shounen-ai series. I love the art in it, my fav image being that christmas one of Ryo....so sexy. I have up to vol. 4 and cant wait for the rest. Its just such a great series. Its not hot sexy moments with no plot, it has great story lines that keep you entertained and throw in those sweet little scenes to really just blow you away. I loved it when Ryo finally kissed Dee back. It was just so cute. I like Gravitation a lot as well, but Fake won me over. I think its because Dee and Ryo's relationship isnt as angsty as Syuichi's and Yuki's. Im all excited about the 'infamous' vol. 7. I want to know what happens...to bad I cant read japanese or I would just buy the original versions. Oh well, I'll have patience, till it comes out I'll just quench my yaoi thirst on doujinshi's. :love:

ACXchan
11-18-2003, 09:11 PM
I think FAKE would have made a great TV series because there's just so much one can do with a cop show ^ ^ Then again only some people like cop shows... me included, NYPD Blue~~<3

I'm interested in seeing how Tokyo Pop plans to handle "those scenes" when the volumes come out @D@ I've never flipped through many Tokyo Pop mangas so I don't know how they handle erm... erotic goings on.

Michi
11-19-2003, 03:54 AM
Isn't Tokyo Pop doing Battle Royale...? ^^; That's pretty adult, and they just mark it that way..

baku_neko
11-20-2003, 03:00 PM
WAAAHHH! I got my copy of FAKE 4! I'm off to read it now! ^____^

ChibiRinoa
11-20-2003, 08:13 PM
0.0 how many of you have seen the anime OAV?? -just bought it today- its so cute! It mirrors the manga very well, except for adding in a couple of characters, but they really added to the story. ^.^

Susumari
11-20-2003, 08:58 PM
i really wanna see the anime....eek u getting me all bundled up. lol.

ACXchan
11-20-2003, 10:35 PM
LOL I thought Battle Royale was mostly blood, gore, and violence, not sex @D@?

The anime's pretty cheap so if you haven't seen it yet go buy it. Now XD!

Michi
11-21-2003, 05:58 PM
Yeah, but blood and gore and violence is adult.. And Mitsuko's sexuality is really strong in the manga, I heard. *shrug*

The anime is cute. It was made for those who have read the manga, so maybe it'll sell better now that they're bringing it out here. @_@

ACXchan
11-21-2003, 06:25 PM
Michi: Yeah, but blood and gore and violence is adult..

LOL but blood, gore, and violence isn't explicit sex @D@ Not that FAKE is hardcore or anything... I've just never seen any popular comics with graphic sex scenes in bookstores like Borders. Then again Borders sells From Hell and that's more explicit than FAKE. Maybe the bookstores don't check/don't care, I can't see FAKE ever being available at oh.... Wal Mart though XD

Karasu
11-22-2003, 12:32 AM
From Hell? What's that? I'm probably going to have to investigate this now. Curiousity killed the Karasu. *_*

ACXchan
11-22-2003, 02:03 PM
Karasu: From Hell? What's that? I'm probably going to have to investigate this now. Curiousity killed the Karasu. *_*

::quickly drives the thread off topic!:: It's a comic book (graphic novel) by Alan Moore. It takes on one of the theories behind Jack the Ripper and turns it into a phenomenal story. You can get it in most bookstores now because like a year and a half ago Johnny Depp starred in a film version of the comic.

It's not yaoi-centric obviously ^ ^;; It does have homosexual characters, but it's not fluffy shounen-ai *any* way @D@;; It's pretty graphic though, in violence, sex (some gay and straight), and overall psychological trauma.

Susumari
11-23-2003, 10:31 AM
I'm interested...lol. For some reason i used to have an obsession with Jack the ripper.

Michi
11-24-2003, 02:32 AM
Explicit... sex... o_o I haven't seen that one part of the manga since three years ago, but I don't remember it being that bad. ^_^;

Is Fake even selling at Wal-Mart? :p I've only seen it at um, Borders and Kinokuniya.

And you just reminded me that I've been meaning to rent the movie 'From Hell'. ^^;

ACXchan
11-24-2003, 02:37 AM
Yeah it wasn't that bad, not hard yaoi. In my opinion it was *gorgeous* XD;;;; However by er... American standards I think it would be considered "bad" @D@;; I dunno if it's selling at Wal-Mart either LOL I haven't been in a Wal-Mart in.. a year x_x;;

Read the comic book XD! From Hell will give you one bad mind screw @D@;;

Karasu
11-24-2003, 11:35 PM
I remember seeing that movie, I just did know that it derived from a comic book. Even though there's no yaoi, it would still be really good. ^_^

baku_neko
11-25-2003, 09:53 PM
SQUEE!!! I just bought the OVA at Fry's! and only for 20 bucks! ^___^ Haven't watched it yet, but will really soon.

RoseDuelist
11-26-2003, 05:12 PM
My friend spilled coffee on my volume 3! *cry* But I sold it to her and just bought a new copy. Mwuhaha! *cough* But yeah, I agree it would make a great TV series... I know not many would agree with this but I would love to see it get adapted into a live action like Will & Grace.. meh! I know that's not a popular opinion, but I think it would make a really good show... :)

baku_neko
11-27-2003, 10:28 AM
My friend spilled coffee on my volume 3! *cry* But I sold it to her and just bought a new copy. Mwuhaha! *cough* But yeah, I agree it would make a great TV series... I know not many would agree with this but I would love to see it get adapted into a live action like Will & Grace.. meh! I know that's not a popular opinion, but I think it would make a really good show... :)


O_O

Live action FAKE? What a brillant idea! I'd sooooo watch it! ^_^

Karasu
11-30-2003, 09:59 PM
I'd watch the live action FAKE too! That would be lots of happiness. ^_^

I love the sub voices on the FAKE OVA, but not so much with the dub. They sound like they are always confused. Maybe that's just me. . . .

nemesae
12-01-2003, 01:51 PM
And by reading the last seven pages of Fake comments you have really made me curious and I just HAVE to read it for myself... *note to self: must buy Fake very very soon!*

ACXchan
12-01-2003, 08:10 PM
There is Live Action FAKE... it's called Queer As Folk XD

Akakaka... but really I think FAKE would make a great live action series and I'd watch it. It'd be combining two of my loves: hot sexy bishies lusting for each other and NYPD Blue XD

ACXchan
01-20-2004, 07:49 PM
I don't mean to double-post but it was the only way to get this thread updated so....

For those who haven't seen it yet I finally scanned in all the pages of the FAKE epilogue that came only with Sanami Matoh's illustration collection COLOR. If anyone wants to look, and more importantly *translate* @D@ Go check them out! Click 04 on the navigation bar.

by.your.side (http://jazzmessenger.isorhythm.net/)

Karasu
01-20-2004, 10:17 PM
Sweet monkeys that awesome! I can't translate (boo!), but I can enjoy (yeah!). Ah, this is awesome. ^_^

nemesae
01-21-2004, 12:33 AM
Thank you thank you ^_^ I didn't know how the manga was going to be after part four, haven't read anything more yet, but I had a hunch from the descriptions at tokyopop's website ^_^ so no massive spoilers, luckily
About the translating part: give me half a year and I'd have about two pages translated ;) maybe you should try asking a scanlation group, they might be interested

Sarcasm-hime
01-21-2004, 02:20 PM
I love FAKE but my main problem with it is the problem I have with most yaoi....the division of 'genders' even when they're both the same gender. You've always got to have a 'man' and a 'woman', and the 'woman' always has to be a prissy, sex-phobic ditz who has to be coerced into any kind of intimacy. It's really unrealistic....guys are horny. When you get two guys together, they're double horny. *lol*

A lot of the time when reading FAKE I just want to smack some sense into Ryo....much the way I feel about a lot of anime heroines. -.-;;

ACXchan
01-21-2004, 02:33 PM
Hah I have the same problem, Sarcasm-hime, although in my opinion FAKE does it the least out of all the yaoi anime I've seen (::coughGravitationcough::). I like how Ryo can be masculine but still sensitive. I think Ryo's not so much a "woman" but really he's just a sensitive, often clueless, virgin sweetie @D@ My favorite part about the FAKE relationship is the fact that Dee is actually bi ^ ^ You hardly ever see a true bisexual character in yaoi or other genres. He's my hero XD

I could try to ask a scanlation group for these, hmmm...

Michi
01-22-2004, 12:18 PM
o.o Really? I usually get really annoyed at stupid feminine types but I've never gotten annoyed at Ryo. ^^; Hm.

Man.. I used to look through my Japanese 1-3 a lot, and always knew Fake was my favorite.. but.. I read volume 4 the other day (still supporting the American release!) and.. a part of it made me nearly cry. ;_; Sooo good.

nemesae
01-22-2004, 12:29 PM
The only one who really annoys me in FAKE is JJ ^_^" but I guess he was 'designed' to be irritating so that makes sense.

Btw, not annoyed as in "I want him out of the show", more like "Can't he just for once not show up and give Ryo and Dee some peace"

HikaruMiazaki
01-22-2004, 12:58 PM
Lol I love JJ! ^_^ He's so cute and adorable. I hate Bikky thou :/ he gets on my nerves x_x;; lol for the same "Can't he just for once not show up and give Ryo and Dee some peace (and rabu rabu time :P)" hehe ^_^

ACXchan
01-22-2004, 06:06 PM
Awww Michi no tears XD! I don't think I've ever cried over FAKE but often times my eyes water @D@;;

I don't think there's any character I can't stand in the series. I like everyone down to Jim the Forensics Guy and Chief. Berkeley used to annoy me but only because he tried to get in Ryo's pants. I really like Berkeley and Diana together ^ ^ Haha Bikky rules XD

rhichan
01-22-2004, 07:03 PM
Awww Michi no tears XD! I don't think I've ever cried over FAKE but often times my eyes water @D@;;

I don't think there's any character I can't stand in the series. I like everyone down to Jim the Forensics Guy and Chief. Berkeley used to annoy me but only because he tried to get in Ryo's pants. I really like Berkeley and Diana together ^ ^ Haha Bikky rules XD

I always have a soft spot for the annoying kid side character, thus Bikky is my fav FAKE character. I'm thinking if I can get my skin tanned, I may cosplay as him.

Michi
01-22-2004, 07:32 PM
Only character I ever didn't particularly like was Berkeley.. and sometimes JJ. But not to the point of hating them in the series. XD

Scortia
01-22-2004, 08:06 PM
Berkeley and Diana need to hook up. *_* I've only stolen my friend's english versions, so I have no idea how it ends. ^^;; JJ is adorable... I love JJ. He and Dee are my favorite characters. ;p

Sarcasm-hime
01-23-2004, 12:32 PM
o.o Really? I usually get really annoyed at stupid feminine types but I've never gotten annoyed at Ryo. ^^; Hm.


It's not enough to put me off the manga, but a lot of the time I do want to just shake him and say "You like this guy, he likes you, so get over yourself, dammit!". The excessive levels of angst in a lot of yaoi get on my nerves sometimes...as does the "Oh, what should I do? Should I tell him my feelings? no, how about I just sit here and angst about it for 50-something episodes..." crap that a lot of anime heroines spew. A lot of the time I just want to lock the characters in a closet together so they can just get it over with. But I'm not bitter...lol

HikaruMiazaki
01-23-2004, 01:05 PM
lol I think I like JJ a lot because he's a lot like me and my boyfriend. I'm always over him and sometimes a bit too much. Lol Dee and JJ need to have a lovey dovey scene. And is it just me or do other people have the same feelings of how JJ may act obnoxious but really truly and deeply love Dee? I mean, they did have a relationship before (atleast it seems like that from the manga) and Dee left, leaving poor JJ :( I feel bad for JJ and think sometimes about how Ryo is stealing him >/ but it doesn't make me upset. Ryo and Dee are cute together too it's just.. sometimes I think JJ actually deserves him more :(

Edit: somewhat SPOILER for 4th or 3rd manga

Also I think it was completely rude what Ryo did when Dee was stuck in the house with bombs. JJ was the one who wanted to actually do something for Dee while Ryo was just sitting on his ass and then Ryo goes and saves the day when it was all JJ shouting and screaming about the situation. It makes me so mad! :( It's scenes like that that shows JJ really does love Dee a lot. *huggles JJ* he's my fav :)

:/Edit

ACXchan
01-23-2004, 09:23 PM
I don't think JJ and Dee ever had a real relationship. JJ likes to act as if they did but I remember Dee saying something about how JJ fell for him at the academy and made poor Dee's life a living hell @D@;; Dee doesn't strike me as the type to er... go for JJ, though I can see Dee stringing JJ along just to have a fanboy x_x;; I think JJ does care about Dee, he just er.. doesn't know how to handle *not* being Dee's love interest kakaka.

I don't think Ryo angsts that much XD If anything Ryo kinda strikes me as a tease @D@ Gives Dee only kisses then kicks him in the face when Dee tries to get in his pants hah. Probably one of those guys that wants to "take the relationship slowly" bahaha.

FAKE is one of the very few series where I love *all* the canon couplings ^ ^***

Michi
01-23-2004, 09:34 PM
I dunno. =/ I think Ryo's angst is a bit more excused than most other characters like that. I mean, he's not just dealing with "do I like him?" but it's the whole homosexuality thing and that's never easy to deal with. Gotta add on that whole "Am I gay?" thing. So his angst never really bothered me for those reasons. I dunno. XD I've got a headache so excuse me for having a really weird way of organizing my thoughts right now. x_X Btw, Sarcasm-hime, you rock because you are a big Mosquiton fan (or at least big enough to make a page!) and that is rare and awesome. ^_^

*blinkblink* Hikaru, no, like ACX said.. JJ and Dee never dated. JJ's just always had a crush on Dee. ^^; And ACX, you're right, Dee did talk about their days at the academy. Heheheh. Poor Dee. x_X

Haha, Hikaru, I didn't think what Ryo did during that scene was rude or mean at all, but I guess since you're a JJ fan it makes sense. *falls over* Ryo had his reasons. It's actually that part, or at least the conclusion, that made me want to cry. ;_;

Sarcasm-hime
01-24-2004, 01:01 AM
Hee...Mosquiton is one of my absolute favourite shows (OAV, not TV). MUST cosplay as Yuki sometime...I even have the fabric for her dress lying around. Hum.

You're right, Ryo doesn't angst nearly as much as in many other yaoi series....like Zetsuai for example lol...but I do wish he'd just make up his goddamn mind instead of going along with Dee and then backing off, forward...back...forward...back....argh. *lol* Then again it's not like that kind of thing doesn't happen IRL. A friend of mine recently broke up with his boyfriend who was totally closeted and just couldn't come to terms with being gay...

nemesae
01-24-2004, 01:17 AM
I don't mind shows being angsty and such, I actually really empathize with the characters a lot more when there's angst involved strangely enough. I guess I just like tragic characters ^_^"

ACXchan
01-24-2004, 04:12 PM
Who's a Mosquiton fan?? I loved the OVA series even though it was kind of short. Mosqui cracks me up @D@ I was thinking of cosplaying Inaho but I don't have a Mosqui >_<;

You're right, Ryo doesn't angst nearly as much as in many other yaoi series....like Zetsuai for example lol...but I do wish he'd just make up his goddamn mind instead of going along with Dee and then backing off, forward...back...forward...back....argh. *lol*
Gahahaha hard to get, it probably subconsciously turns Dee on XD

I think Dee, Ryo, and JJ have a love-hate friendship, especially after the Max storyline. Plus... JJ's a real good shot so Dee probably trusts him *not* to shoot him when Dee treats him like dirt @D@;

Michi
01-24-2004, 04:58 PM
The Mosquiton OAV is my favorite anime series of all time. XD I wish ADV'd put it on DVD already, because I'm this close to ordering the $100+ import DVD set.. er, that is, once I get a region 2 DVD player. ^_^v; Yes! Everyone should cosplay from Mosquiton! ^___^ I did a ghetto Mosquiton cosplay about 2-3 years ago, and I'm determined to someday redo it. :D Mo-chan is my favorite character ever, too. I also want to cosplay Camille. >< ACX, you're local, right? Do Inaho and I'll fix up my Mosquiton. XD Just.. do it before I move to Canada, because then I don't know how often I'll be coming back here. XDD Okay whoa, that was way too much off-topic.. back to the FAKE topic. ^^;;;

I think the whole thing with Ryo is justified.. How sometimes he'll kiss Dee first, and sometimes he'll kick him off.. He's trying to discover what he really wants, and that's kinda hurting Dee in the process.. so that adds extra angst for Ryo.. because he really does care about him.. @____@; Yeah this is why Dee is my favorite character and Ryo isn't. XD
Can't wait to pick up volume 5. *_* I saw the end of the series before vol 7 was even out in Japan (my friend had the BeBoy, I think it was, that had one of the last chapters) so.. I'm excited to finally be reading it myself. Then I need to re-buy Japanese vols 1-3 (I lost them ;___;!!) and finally get 4-7. Ehehe. Yes, I will own it in both languages. Crazy? Yes I am. At least it's less than half the cost to get the whole series in Japanese versus English. ~_~ Stupid $10 manga volumes.. $10 should get you at least 2 volumes. XD Maybe someday. *_* At least we've improved from before when it used to be around $18 per volume of manga in America.. I never ever bought them then, but the smaller issues inspired me to start reading manga in English.

....wow I just kept jumping subjects, didn't I? Sorry, I'm still a bit out of it. ^_^; Do excuse the ramble~! I'm so hyper right now. x____X I get so excited about my favorite things. ;-; My favorite anime, my favorite manga.. oi.

Selphie_fairy
01-24-2004, 05:38 PM
michu- I have fushigi yugi and rayearth mangas that cause me $16 >.> they are really trying to burn a hole in our pockets ;___;

are volumes six and seven out already? When I went to gamestop the sticker said "5 out of 7". I was like "hmmmmm, i wonder where I can get the other two...." I love Fake, it comes right behind gravitation!

there was also only one OAV tape right? that was based off the second volume? My friend had told me there was two but I wasn't sure since I only found one tape.

yea, hot stuff goes on in seven...saw some awesome scans ^_~ and it's really...steamy XD just wanna get a heads up to other fake fans...

::rushes everywhere to find those scans again::

Michi
01-24-2004, 07:14 PM
No, they aren't out yet. ^^ Volume 5 just came out this month anyway. Volumes 6 and 7 end the series, and we won't be getting them for a while.. March and May respectively are the release dates, actually. :3

Well, I know that both of those series (Rayearth & Fushigi Yuugi) are coming out in smaller volumes now.. ^^; I refused to buy any English manga back when they were so big. I'm waiting for Viz to release Video Girl Ai in smaller versions too so I can start picking that up as well. :D

There's one OAV released here on DVD and VHS. ^_^ It's highly recommended if you like the series. It's based off the England trip from volume 2, with Berkeley Rose's introduction. Good stuff. There's also CD dramas made before the anime but they aren't released here.. I reaaaally want them. *_*

ACXchan
01-25-2004, 04:59 AM
Michi, yes I'm local but if I ever do an Inaho it'll be for like... Anime Expo or something, Maybe Fanime? LOL I dunno, when are you moving up to Canada @D@? Haha Camille would be hilarious too, I've thought about Inaho or Honou XD

Fweeee I love both Dee and Ryo~<3 Shoot, I love everyone @D@; And Michi, either you're not crazy or we're both insane, I'm gonna buy the entire English manga release too x__x! Two sets of FAKE manga oh ho ho ho ho. I wonder if Tokyo Pop changed the material for their manga covers to reduce cost or if that's exactly what they're doing with the $10 price >_o

What Michi said about the volumes and the OVA >.< *nuzzles CD drama* But I have only the Final Act drama, finding the older ones is like searching for the holy grail ;_; I flipped through the Gravitation volumes and Yuki's doing Shuichi uncensored (not that Gravi is explicit) so I dunno if Tokyo Pop will shrinkwrap or not @D@

HikaruMiazaki
01-25-2004, 11:23 AM
Yeah but Tokyo Pop did remove a few scenes from Gravi, atleast I believe they did. I was reading the one my friend's scanlation group (Obsession) scanlated and the ones I have and it looked like there were scenes missing. I dunno. I'll ask Ryuichi to look more into it @o@

Sarcasm-hime
01-25-2004, 01:53 PM
Yay Canada! We can always use more great cosplayers!

Ugh yeah, I've been waiting for them to release Mosquiton on DVD too. WHEN will they do it...? Argh.

Michi
01-25-2004, 06:05 PM
heh, ACX, I miss the shiny pretty purple covers of the Japanese FAKE.. ;.; and the special color images inserted that TokyoPop nixed. I wish they wouldn't do that. They made some beautiful color manga pages of Chobits just black & white in their releases. I'm glad I'm getting that one in Japanese too. x_x; (I was just going to buy it in Japanese, but then my boyfriend was interested in it so I began buying the English version for him/us both. ^^)

Scenes missing? Geh! I like TokyoPop a lot; that's depressing to hear if it's true. Not that I'm a Gravi-fan or anything, though. Heh.

*salutes* If things go well, I'll be a Canadian cosplayer by the end of the year. XD For now I'll be a foreign attendee of Anime North for sure, and might by living there by CN Anime Expo. I hope. ;_;

*makes Mosquiton DVD petition*.... Okay not really, but I have e-mailed them about it. >_>

ACXchan
01-25-2004, 08:00 PM
OMG... Tokyo Pop can actually do that? Like.. nix scenes x_x? That's disappointing to hear... oh well, all the more reason for people to go out and buy the Japanese version XDDD Yeah it sucks how TP didn't make color inserts, but yet another reason to buy Japanese manga akakaka, and the Sanami Matoh artbook. It took me a while but I finally got my copy <3__<3!

Hehehe... my friend's boyfriend idolizes Dee XD

Michi
01-25-2004, 08:11 PM
I know that Viz cut out a part of their Dragonball manga, but.. I didn't think TokyoPop would do that too >_> I dunno, I had more faith in them. If you can find that out for sure if they did or not, Hikaru, that'd be cool. :D

ACXchan
01-26-2004, 12:46 AM
Tokyo Pop does Battle Royale right? I don't think they'd discriminate against sex over violence, I hope they wouldn't ^ ^;; At least they didn't take out Bikky's precious finger and all the snazzy dialogue XD I think Tokyo Pop might've even taken some liberties with the dialogue.

HikaruMiazaki
01-26-2004, 03:36 PM
I've also noticed differences in Demon Diary by TokyoPop from the original Korean version of Diary of a Demon King. They had the scenes out of order :x I was upset with that as well. Also I noticed in some TP mangas they leave small or large speech bubbles blank. I suppose they couldn't translate what was said or something. It was in both Gravi, FAKE, Initial D and Battle Royale. :( I only get Japanese stuff now too lol

ACXchan
01-26-2004, 05:46 PM
What pages had a blank speech bubble in FAKE? I didn't notice any, tell me tell me >.< I did notice some bubbles and text were disproportionate to each other but that makes sense since the languages don't compare so easily.

HikaruMiazaki
01-26-2004, 06:06 PM
I'll have to look through them. I know they're in there because I remember reading it and seeing them then getting upset :x

Michi
01-26-2004, 07:36 PM
What pages had a blank speech bubble in FAKE? I didn't notice any, tell me tell me >.< I did notice some bubbles and text were disproportionate to each other but that makes sense since the languages don't compare so easily.

Rawwwrrr there was one part in volume 3 I believe where Dee said some dialogue that I think belonged to Carol. ~_~ It didn't make ANY sense if he said it, and it really bugged me. This, and hearing about some typos in Petshop of Horrors, is starting to upset me.. Not to mention how they size down pages for some reason, and stuff gets cut off the edges in Love Hina.. I mean, I appreciate them bringing so much manga over here so quickly, but they don't have to half ass it and rush everything like this. What happened to proof-readers? Blah!! >< I think I've seen one little hiragana typo in all the Japanese manga I've seen.. ..blah.. it just gives me a reason to pick up the Japanese versions of all my favorites.. (Even though some of them I picked up the Japanese version first, heheh)

...okay rant over with.

ACXchan
01-27-2004, 01:38 AM
LOL I remember seeing a typo here and there in FAKE. It stood out like a sore thumb cause like... it just makes the comic sad or something to see a typo in someone's speech x__x I don't think I noticed the Dee-Carol thing but it might've been cause I read over it so fast I didn't see the dialogue was coming from Dee >_<;

If they got proof readers how much you wanna bet it would cost $14.99 per volume @D@?

Michi
01-27-2004, 02:08 AM
I'll scan it sometime. :P

I don't think so. =/ Viz, the company that was known for publishing those $15-17 volumes, has started re-releasing their series in the smaller, $9.99 volumes. I think they're just going too fast with trying to release them. The same person who puts text on the edited manga could say "Hey, there's a big farking obvious typo here" and do something about it, couldn't they? ^^; (Like the error Petshop of Horrors had)

ACXchan
01-27-2004, 09:06 PM
Maybe they're more into pushing out as much manga as possible whenever possible to compete with Viz, and Shonen Jump etc.... Focusing on quantity and not quality >_o We should burn then at the stake. ..... But after they finish releasing FAKE first XD

Michi
01-27-2004, 10:42 PM
I saw a blank text bubble and a few bubbles where text was horribly placed by computer. I am starting to really get annoyed with the "quantity over quality" thing. :P I'm glad I know enough Japanese to enjoy collecting both versions. x___x But I feel sorry for those that only buy them in English. =/

Karasu
01-28-2004, 05:46 PM
Well, that is the American way, isn't it? Take something from another country and either fix it up (to how they see fit) or do it over again - american style. I don't feel bad for what they screw up in the english versions, because my imagination can make up for what they left out (or screwed up). Yes sirrah.

ACXchan
01-28-2004, 07:44 PM
I don't feel bad for what they screw up in the english versions, because my imagination can make up for what they left out (or screwed up). Yes sirrah.
Well they better not leave out the sweet rubbu-rubbu scenes XDXDXD I kind of like how they changed a little here and a little there to make it more of a New York City equivalent, rather than a direct word for word translation. It wouldn't really make sense to have the idioms translated exactly because an American audience wouldn't understand the humor (unless readers had a good knowledge of the Japanese culture and language @D@).

No excuse for typos though LOL XD

Michi
01-29-2004, 12:22 AM
I'm not so sensitive to be annoyed at Americanizing lines or anything, but I DO get annoyed when they don't even double check what they did. When text doesn't even fill the bubbles because they aligned it wrong, they should FIX that, not publish it that way! We're spending a lot of money to buy every volume of all these series... A series with only about 7 volumes overall costs $70 to collect, whereas it should only cost around $21-38 total in Japanese. I don't know what costs translating and whatnot take, but if they're going to charge us that much I would not complain if they delayed a release to ensure some damn quality. ~_~

....Sorry, reading Love Hina volume 3 last night and noticing so many errors (a LOT of typos in that one, along with misaligned text and a couple of empty bubbles), I'm starting to get pretty darn pissed with English manga. *hugs her Japanese collection* x___x

Karasu
01-30-2004, 06:09 PM
Originally posted by: ACXchan
No excuse for typos though LOL XD
This is true!!

HikaruMiazaki
01-30-2004, 07:54 PM
x_x I feel like I started a riot by pointing the flaws out of deleted scenes and empty talk bubbles. ;_; oh well, no offense but to me america sucks anyways. I would move to Japan if I had the money :thumbsup:

Michi
01-30-2004, 09:25 PM
Nah, it was already bugging me in different TP manga, Hikaru. ^^ You didn't start it. XD I wrote a huge rant in the LJ manga community though. >_>

ACXchan
01-31-2004, 12:00 AM
We were in denial or something about it until you came along, Hikaru XD Now we roar! But we (at least Michi and I @D@) still buy TP FAKE despite its many flaws.... What does that say about us >_<;;? I think FAKE and SD Kyo are the only TP mangas I buy >_o