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athena-chan
03-13-2009, 04:28 PM
We're happy to announce a brand new photography contest for METROCON 2009. Submit your photos of Cosplayers, Dollfies , Figurines and more for a chance to win! All entries must be submitted online by June 4th and the winners will be announced during the convention at the Cosplay Carnevale.

For full rules and information please see
http://www.metroconventions.com/control.cfm?ID=4195&cid=6C890352-1217-5C2E-5BA05B496039191D

Kichara
03-14-2009, 12:07 AM
I'm very excited to see what entries will come in! I hope everyone will get really creative and send in lots of cool pics they've taken! :)

WasabiGuy
03-17-2009, 12:00 PM
Wow... this sounds "totally original." (http://www.tomcroom.com/2009/03/metro-copycats.html) I wonder where I've heard this idea before!

(Note my original use of the exclamation point!)

Foos
03-17-2009, 02:11 PM
This is kickass. I've actually seen people take amazing shots of action figures and dollfies, so it's cool to see a contest for photographers that isn't purely cosplay-centered. It's nice to see Metrocon improve and expand on existing ideas.

Lucifer
03-17-2009, 03:01 PM
Just an opinion, but as a cosplay photographer myself, I don't see how one can judge a cosplay photo against still life (i.e. dollfies/figures). Its apples and oranges. -shrug-

athena-chan
03-17-2009, 09:13 PM
Wow... this sounds "totally original." (http://www.tomcroom.com/2009/03/metro-copycats.html) I wonder where I've heard this idea before!

(Note my original use of the exclamation point!)

I think these 2 contests have about as much in common as a Anime Human Chess match and a Anime Human Checkers match do.


We tried to create an event that was different enough from what other conventions have to offer while still offering something for photographers. Maybe one day photography contest will become as common place as Costume Contest or Masked balls.

Lucifer-
Robot costumes and ball gowns are like apples and oranges but we try our best to judge them against each other in costume contests. We do realize that the difficulty level working with things like figurines is different from real people and we will do our best to judge the photos accordingly.

WasabiGuy
03-17-2009, 11:46 PM
I think these 2 contests have about as much in common as a Anime Human Chess match and a Anime Human Checkers match do.

Carolann - there is a distinct difference between parody and duplication. So your attempt at comparison is a failure.

We tried to create an event that was different enough from what other conventions have to offer while still offering something for photographers. Maybe one day photography contest will become as common place as Costume Contest or Masked balls.

"Tried" being the operative word. Maybe someday photography contests WILL become commonplace in anime conventions - but with a similar name, the (cloned) event staff's relationship with the originator of the concept in Florida (and as far as I know, in the U.S.), and the proximity to its use within months of the originator's event bowing out... it's all too much of a coincidence and (IMO) disrespectful.

MetroCon felt the need to start labeling the Anime Human Chess match as the "ORIGINAL" due to people taking the concept without crediting the innovation. I remember how that made the MetroCon staff feel at the time.

I see that the MetroCon staff, and the staff of this event, have conveniently forgotten those feelings to serve their own purposes.

athena-chan
03-18-2009, 12:49 AM
You do know that Jacon did not invent the Photo contest right? Fantasm had photo contests as far back as 2001.
Katsucon also ran a Photo contest this year.

Not every event we run can be a truly original idea but we do try to make the events and contests as unique as we can.

WasabiGuy
03-18-2009, 07:54 AM
You do know that Jacon did not invent the Photo contest right? Fantasm had photo contests as far back as 2001.
Katsucon also ran a Photo contest this year.

Not every event we run can be a truly original idea but we do try to make the events and contests as unique as we can.

Your comparisons are only proving my point, Carolann.

1. Fantasm (what little information I could find about it on the Internet) is "a broad genre-based Atlanta convention for fans of SF, fantasy, horror, and erotica, as expressed in fiction, art, and games." It is not an anime convention.

2. MetroCon did not invent the idea of a "chess match" at conventions. Ren fairs and scifi/fantasy festivals had been doing it for YEARS. MetroCon DID, though, innovate the concept to apply to anime conventions... hence needing the moniker "ORIGINAL Anime Human Chess Match"

3. The fact that Katsucon ran a photo contest last year has no bearing on this since they are nowhere near Florida and the fact that JACON has run their contest for over three years.

When MetroCon came on the scene a few years ago, it rode the coat tails of the work other groups had already done to help popularize anime fandom in Central Florida. Putting a convention a mere 68 miles from two other already medium sized conventions (both run by fans as a part time endeavor - not as a full time job) in Orlando was already disrespectful to begin with. Life goes on, though...

To reiterate: you and MetroCon have announced an event with a similar title style that is an obvious reproduction (with minor tweaking) of an event that was innovated for anime conventions for JACON by a member of the JACON staff that you and your coordinator both know personally. It's sad that yourself/MetroCon have become so desperate for new events that you've stooped to this level.

As the old proverb goes, "There is no honor among thieves."

Or integrity it seems.

Best of luck with the event.

Lucifer
03-18-2009, 07:58 AM
Lucifer-
Robot costumes and ball gowns are like apples and oranges but we try our best to judge them against each other in costume contests.

They are both people in costumes, thus both cosplay. They are judged for their costumes. The costumes may be different, but they are still costumes.


We do realize that the difficulty level working with things like figurines is different from real people and we will do our best to judge the photos accordingly.

Good luck.

Neko_Kaolla
03-18-2009, 09:48 AM
I really don't see the issue... I've done photo contests elsewhere before. It isn't really original anywhere (and you really can't argue that the contests I've entered weren't "cosplay related" because I entered and won with a cosplay photo in a generic contest), and no one has the rights or patents to the idea.

So METRO has a photo contest and so does Jacon. They also both have costume contests, cosplay contests, AMV contests, et cetera. As does most of the conventions in this country, regardless of genre of the convention, each running it in their own personal fashion with their own sets of rules and regulations. So you can't make it to one convention, but you can make it to the other. Enter what you can. This way, no one is denied the opportunity to enter the contests they want to due to where they live and where they can travel to.

So, pardon my confusion, but wouldn't this be a moot point?

Lucifer
03-18-2009, 10:57 AM
I really don't see the issue... I've done photo contests elsewhere before. It isn't really original anywhere (and you really can't argue that the contests I've entered weren't "cosplay related" because I entered and won with a cosplay photo in a generic contest), and no one has the rights or patents to the idea.




I don't think that's what the argument is (that the idea of a photography contest isn't original). Thing is, in Florida (correct me if I'm wrong), JACON was the only convention to host a photography contest that used cosplay as the subject.

Conventions are a dime a dozen in Florida, seriously, so keeping unique events is harder and harder to do. That's why cons (in Florida) pride themselves on their unique events (i.e. Metro's chess match, AFO's roleplay, etc.). Jacon had a unique event (the Shoot Me! contest), and now sees the same kind of contest being done at another con without regard.

-shrug- I honestly don't care, but I can see how it could irritate some people.

athena-chan
03-18-2009, 11:45 AM
Thing is, in Florida (correct me if I'm wrong), JACON was the only convention to host a photography contest that used cosplay as the subject.


And it still is. Picture this isn't a cosplay photo contest. It's an anything photo contest. Sure the people in the photos can be wearing costumes, or they can be wearing cat ears or they can be wearing a DBZ t-shirt. It's not about what the subject is wearing, it's about the composition and artistic merit of the photo it's self.

This is why I don't get why people seem to think the 2 contests are all that similar.

Gentleman
03-18-2009, 12:19 PM
It's new, it's fresh, I love it!!

Athena, I think you have an amazing idea here! I love seeing this creative style in Florida conventions when it comes to new competitions. Maybe I'll try my end at some photography for this! =)

AndreaOfTheLand
03-18-2009, 12:23 PM
I'm looking fwd to this! I may dig out my dusty old cannon from college and enter something! I haven't done any real photo contests in years ^_^

Lucifer
03-18-2009, 12:30 PM
And it still is. Picture this isn't a cosplay photo contest. It's an anything photo contest. Sure the people in the photos can be wearing costumes, or they can be wearing cat ears or they can be wearing a DBZ t-shirt. It's not about what the subject is wearing, it's about the composition and artistic merit of the photo it's self.



Its the same contest, you just changed the subjects in the photos. -shrug-

Foos
03-18-2009, 12:32 PM
Andrea: I vonder if yous can enters your metalocalypse photo of Skwisgaar Skwigelf ands his hots older ladies.

Gentleman
03-18-2009, 12:38 PM
Andrea: I vonder if yous can enters your metalocalypse photo of Skwisgaar Skwigelf ands his hots older ladies.

Omg, this is the best idea ever!! This is going to be amazing!! XD

AndreaOfTheLand
03-18-2009, 12:38 PM
oh hohoho i likes the way you be tinking dere =3

Pantsu_chan
03-18-2009, 01:09 PM
Andrea: I vonder if yous can enters your metalocalypse photo of Skwisgaar Skwigelf ands his hots older ladies.

SECONDED! This must be done. I think this contest is a nice way to recognize all the awesome photogs we've got around FL!

Gentleman
03-18-2009, 01:20 PM
Agreed, vinylgrrl!!

I personally know some wonderful photographers that deserve credit for the amazing work they've done for cosplayers in the past. I feel photographers of past like Maboroshi, and photographers of the present should all enter this so they can be fully recognized for their amazing contribution to the community.

*Kai*
03-18-2009, 01:40 PM
I too think this is a fun and great idea! I know a lot of people out there that take great pictures but don't necessarily do any of the cosplay contests for various reasons. This gives them the chance to still be a part of things and have their work recognized.

Plus, if you do enter the other events, it's still something MORE to do and have a fun time with. I see no problem with this contest and definitely think Andrea should enter that picture. =P Heck, I might even try my hand at it. xD

NekoMimiChan
03-18-2009, 01:50 PM
I love this idea! I've never heard of anything else like it before, sounds like alot of fun.

I like that you're including cosplayers, dolfies, and figurines...it gives everyone an opportunity to be creative with photography.

I agree Gentleman, cosplayers would be nothing without the awesome support of photographers - and they rarely get the aknowledgement they deserve. This is a great way to encourage creativity as well as recognize the contributions of our photographer friends.

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03-18-2009, 01:53 PM
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