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Kenshin Ken
09-30-2002, 12:04 AM
As the title implies ^^ don't ya love em? well for me I'm pretty big fanatic of weapons of al ltypes.. with the exception of guns ^^:; I'm not big on them. But my specality is Japanese swords and lots of other hand-held weaponry ^_^.

I have about 5 blades at home.. all cheaply produced in China or Taiwan ^^;; but I make good practice with each of my swords, mom says its' a waste of money and it's bad luck to have a blade in the house...^^;; I find it lots of fun and soemthign comfy to have around ^^.

Koumori
09-30-2002, 12:07 AM
As a kendoka, I use weapons as a tool. I'm not crazy about them for their own sake. No weapon is worth anything unless you know how to use it.

Kenshin Ken
09-30-2002, 12:10 AM
I just love the history behind weapons..what they were used for ..tehir forms and whatnot... I guess it's jsut one of my bigger hobbies..^^;; weapon forms in marital arts look damn cool ^^.

Mara
09-30-2002, 12:17 AM
I definitely agree,,, I don't like guns, but swords are so cool. One of the reasons I love watching Rurouni Kenshin is for the cool weaponry everyone whips out... Sanosuke's zanbatou is the best. ^____^ and even though it adds extra talking to battle scenes, I love how they explain the process and effect behind the attacks in Kenshin,,, know what I mean?

I admit I know almost nothing about swords outside of anime knowledge... someday I want to learn kenjutsu, but I'm in Chicago, and as far as I know, there isn't a kenjutsu dojo anywhere near here. Do you take any martial arts classes, Kenshin Ken?

-Mara

Kenshin Ken
09-30-2002, 12:21 AM
the only formal trainign I've had in the past by an actual " class" was white crane kung fu at the age of 4.. but I was only in it for a few months and my mom pulled me out because the fee got expensive ( my family wasn't very rch then) from there on I learned stuff on and off from family and friends.

Currently I'm learning some Jeet Kun Do at a studio with some old friends. As for trainign with weapons ^^ I haven't ahd any formal schooling in those either... I learn things by experiance and some common snese... coruse I haven't trested it out on actual PEOPLE yet ^^;; but I have used falling fruits...boards, bamboo sticks and trees ( my first wepaon was a bokken.. and that lasted for 2 months before it broke ^^;; )

Dragoon Knight
09-30-2002, 12:26 AM
well..sometimes training on your own is good. I've learned up to a level of using nunchuku's, as far as a sword goes....just hackin and swinging ^^;; currently learning the staff/spear, and some martial arts. Only took some back when I was 7-8 years old.

ChenCzen
09-30-2002, 01:03 AM
i took kung fu when i was younger. i admire the beauty of swords, but i wouldnt use one. i dont want to cut into anyone. blades arent for me.

Oshi
09-30-2002, 01:13 AM
I'm currently taking isshin-ryu karate as my college gym class. bout time I did some official martial arts class, heh.
I want to teach myself some kind of sword art, kendo or something, so I can use this katana properly...

Kamui Motoaki
09-30-2002, 01:15 AM
wushu!
karate!
TKD!
Kempo!
Ju-Jutsu!

put them all together.. and you get . . . a hero!
*LOL* BWA HAHAHA. . >HA>A>. .. .
i wish. ..

pakachu420
09-30-2002, 01:20 AM
i love martial arts and weapons of all types. i've taken Aikido for about as long as i can remeber(unfortunatly i've gotten kinda bored with it), naginata(yeah i know originally it was a womens martial art buts fun and a good way to meet women. ^_^)


i have a .22 mag at home and i want a couple more guns. i personally have no problem with guns. like any "dangerous" weapon they are safe as long as u respect them and treat them like a weapon. the only problem i have with guns is they are too easy for retards to get their hands on and do stupid shit. i think that there should at least be a firearm safety class/test required when buying a gun kinda like when u get youre drivers license.

ChenCzen
09-30-2002, 01:24 AM
i dont think the big problem with gun control are the registered owners of firearms... if you see where im going with this...

Ayaka
09-30-2002, 01:32 AM
*doesn't really want to get into a gun-control debate and hopes no one else chooses to. . . *

I have a shinai, which I bought for Kaoru's costume; I got a three-minute kendo lesson from a girl at AX. ^^ I'd like to take a martial art, but, I don't know which one . . . I also have some antique sword pieces, crud what are they called . . . the guard and hilt cap, plus the decorative pieces which go under the wrapping of the sword. GRAH I can almost remember the words but not quite. I'm very attached to them, anyway, I'd love to have the guard and hilt cap on a sword replica someday . . .

And, Mara, I believe that the . . . err Japanese Cultural Club has kendo classes. They built a facility on . . . err . . . I think it's route 12? (Is horrific with road names) I can probably track down the info if you want a hand . . .

Oshi
09-30-2002, 01:36 AM
...I firmly believe in a 311 song... "Guns are for pussies". Heheh. They make it too easy to kill a person... It's like, boom, they're dead. Where's the fun in that?

....wow, that musta sounded reaaally sadistic o_o;;;

*runs and hides*

pakachu420
09-30-2002, 01:36 AM
sorry ^_^;;

so...who's down for sword control!!

Oshi
09-30-2002, 01:38 AM
No, no. Sword control isn't a problem. It'd be unnecessary
Too few people know how to use them properly enough to kill a person.
But I reiterate about guns... anybody can use one, and it's just too easy.

ChenCzen
09-30-2002, 01:46 AM
actually, that brings up a little gun/sword history right there.

many people believe the portugese 'introduced' japan to firearms.

japan had a law against guns long before they were 'introduced'. why did it have a law against something people claim they didnt know about?

guns are for pussies.

cause the ruling power didnt want joe-anybody to be able to use force, and in large numbers oppose them, unless they were trained fighters. make part of becoming a trained fighter the instilling of a loyalty-to-the-death mentality only to the local ruler, and your reign is secure.

pakachu420
09-30-2002, 01:48 AM
well... if u wanna bring a sword to a gun fight... be my guest

i figure guns are here to stay whether we like it or not.
dont get me wrong, i almost wish guns were never invented. but since they not going anywhere i figure i might as well learn to use one properly so as to defend myself and my family.

Rosiel
09-30-2002, 09:46 AM
I like bladed weapons from a purely artistic point of view, as they are lovely to behold.

I tend to be a fan of European swords, especially broadswords, but also have a soft spot for rapiers because of their sheer elegance. The ones I own are all Spanish steel and imported from Spain, although I would love to get my hands on a French musketeer-rapier. (I'm horrible at sword names in English so bear with me)

Asian swords never really inspired me much, though.

Sami
09-30-2002, 12:03 PM
I think swords are pretty. *_* I have one (a katana) that's of decent quality, but other than that it's look and not touch. I only know how to use it mediocre...ly...

The only weapon I can really use with some sort of skill are nunchakus; I have some clear epoxy (methinks) ones with blue stripes inside that are neat. ^_^ I had to learn them on the side though because the martial art I took (Taekwondo) is a weaponless art.. but it was worth it. Aa, I wish I could go back to my dojo.. ;_;... *reminisce*

Rosiel
09-30-2002, 12:10 PM
> The only weapon I can really use with some sort of skill are nunchakus

I used to fence, but, alas, I gave it up a number of years ago.
I keep on telling myself I should start again, but I am such a couch potato that I prefer to watch others fence rather than attempt it myself.

There is something elegant and cat-like about European fencing.
Having distilled the edge of danger and turning it almost into a sort of dance, full of pure, simple lines, and intricate weaving of steel, punctuated only by soft footfalls, made it one of the sports I most enjoy watching.

I miss not having cable sometimes. ;__;

engrish
09-30-2002, 12:46 PM
Originally posted by Oshi
...I firmly believe in a 311 song... "Guns are for pussies". Heheh. They make it too easy to kill a person... It's like, boom, they're dead. Where's the fun in that?

....wow, that musta sounded reaaally sadistic o_o;;;

*runs and hides*
I actually have a slight fascination with the art of using a sniper rifle. The idea of taking someone down without having them being able to see you may be considered cowardice to some. Ohhh well I guess I will never make a good Klingon.

btw I recommend the movie "Enemy at the Gate" .... deciet, camaflouge, patience, and accuracy never looked so good :D

Sami
09-30-2002, 01:20 PM
Originally posted by Rosiel
I used to fence, but, alas, I gave it up a number of years ago.


Ahh! Fencing!! I think that would be such a cool thing to try.. it's such a beautiful art.. *can't help but think of Juri and Miki from Utena now, LOL* I really wanted to throughout college, but there weren't really any places around that offered it. Meh.

pakachu420
09-30-2002, 02:22 PM
fencing is preetty cool.
My college has a fencing class that im thinking about taking next semester.

*thrust, thrust, parry gets stabbed in eyeball*

my eyeball!!
*winey little kid voice*

Demented Otaku
09-30-2002, 02:33 PM
You should all read my sig.

Kenshin Ken
09-30-2002, 02:54 PM
mm I preffer Asian swords compared to European weapons. To me the beauty is more than the artistic look of the weapon. It's also the history and background of it.

I find japanese blades to be very fascinating... traidionally they're folded hundered to thoushands of times. It wasn't until I went to a sword exhibit stand during the Cherry Blossom festival that the thousnads of folds apply to just one TYPE of steel,( katanas have a certian anatomy of steel folds and cores varying in styles)

I give European swords props for being made of fine grade steel, Broadswords, claymores, rapiers, epees. They're all very nice, but I'm nto fully for em. If I remember correctly, most large blades were made blunt so that they could slash and peirce through armor without cracking the blade.

Rapiers I belive are different, as with sabres and the other light-weight blades. I preffer kenjitsu or iado since I like the stance, angles to forms of attack. Fencing's posture seems to aim more for fine honed accuracy, which works best for the weapon...

That's jsut my two cents for now ^^.

Neko Cathy
09-30-2002, 02:58 PM
Screw having swords and guns... I got a 70 lb hunters bow that shoots arrows right through the ***king fence. It's strength causes the arrows to tears right into the wood and out and all you hear is this loud BANG. So I have to go to an Archery gallery to shoot my arrows w/ that bow. I also have a 20 lb practice bow too and the arrows dent up the fence.

The recent weapon I bought was this Japanese sword.. it's slightly shorter than a Katana... I forget the name for it, but one of my friends told me that it's only good for defending.

Kung fu kicks ass. My instructor was nice enough to teach me partically how to handle a staff. I used to take it until I broke my arm.

And yes, Legolas has taught me a lot of neat tricks in archery, even though I have done it since I was 11.

Rosiel
09-30-2002, 03:41 PM
> If I remember correctly, most large blades were made blunt so that they could slash and peirce through armor without cracking the blade.

It all depended on the type of sword, if it was for hacking or piercing or... but the important part is what the weapon was designed to fight, a charging steel-clad knight on horeseback requires a different approach than someone on foot who has to carry his own weight (and hence can't wear as much plating).

Weapons are adapted to their use.

I just find European weapons lovelier from an aesthetic point of view. But that is purely subjective, just like I prefer French Court 17th century guarb to Asian Court guarb of the same era. ^___^

It's also the culture behind the artifacts, it seems, that you feel more connected, or less connected, to. Because behind those weapons, there is a philosophy, a way of thinking. No matter how much I read about Asia, I am profoundly European, and European artifacts, stories, architecture touch me more.

(Or it could be my French blood reminding me I'm supposed to think we're better than everyone else. LOL.)

> Rapiers I belive are different, as with sabres and the other light-weight blades.

Most of the light flexible blades are used to pierce not slice. With such a blade you run through your enemies. ^___^

> I preffer kenjitsu or iado since I like the stance, angles to forms of attack.

I could never get into kendo or anything of the sort because of one element which rubbed me the wrong way: the noise.

I like fighting in silence, hearing only soft footfalls and the clashing of blades. I can't take seriously people who scream and stamp their feet in something that has evolved beyond killing into a sort of dance.

(I understand the necessity on the battlefield though.)

Kenshin Ken
09-30-2002, 05:17 PM
mm ^^ the noise is much needed in kendo or kenjitsu, foot stamping and yells are all part of the style.

However there are other styles to take note of... I 've forgotton what the name of the swordsmanship is used for the tai chi sword, but that style deosn't involve much heavy footwork, it jsut involves alot of agility, grace, and in a sense finesse. ( it can look alot like a dance itself too if you give or take a few looks at a few demonstrations*

I can't get into fencing myself too much... probably becuase I only tried it once and I had this awful instructor that was pretty snobbish and offy...but that's just him.. I'd probably get into it more if I found somone better ^^.

>It's also the culture behind the artifacts, it seems, that you feel more connected, or less connected, to. Because behind those weapons, there is a philosophy, a way of thinking. No matter how much I read about Asia, I am profoundly European, and European artifacts, stories, architecture touch me more.

(Or it could be my French blood reminding me I'm supposed to think we're better than everyone else. LOL.)


I could agree with ya alot there ^^. methink you n me are jsut opposites ehn it coems with this matter ^^. but I like your view on this too ^^.

The Moe
09-30-2002, 06:32 PM
>I used to fence, but, alas, I gave it up a number of years ago.

I tried fencing once!! ^_^ It's Marylands state sport beleive it or not. (That and jousting).

And Kenny! you and your swords! I swear! We are so different ^_^ Shoot, dang....give me a gun and I'll be happy~!

You see...when I come and live with you in California...Imma kick you out of your room and you're gonna sleep on the couch....and your swords are going with you.....o.o

I wanna move to Cali....

Oshi
09-30-2002, 06:47 PM
Originally posted by Neko Cathy
Screw having swords and guns... I got a 70 lb hunters bow that shoots arrows right through the ***king fence. It's strength causes the arrows to tears right into the wood and out and all you hear is this loud BANG. So I have to go to an Archery gallery to shoot my arrows w/ that bow. I also have a 20 lb practice bow too and the arrows dent up the fence.
Awwww yeah, my dad has a hunting bow, not sure how strong it is... I can't pull it back all the way, for one thing >.>;;
But it will shoot though a car door, and stick out of the other side....

Mei Lan Chang
10-01-2002, 12:09 AM
Ooohoooo...anyone heard of the tesson? Yes! It's the chinese fighting fan that Mai uses. My personal favorite. Though the ones Mai uses aren't very realistic.

Kenshin Ken
10-01-2002, 01:02 AM
That's Tessen ^^; and usually that name implies to the Japanese folding fan. they're usualyl made of bamboo and favoured by some people to use as a parrying weapon...and a casual instrument of fashion.

CHiense fighting fans are MUCH different... they're streched with silk for the mateiral.. but are iron ribbed for fighting.

Kenshin Ken
10-01-2002, 01:05 AM
And Moe ^^ hehe now now..guns be guns.. sowrds be swords... it'll be hard for you to find EVERY swrod in my room cuase well hehe ^^ I have alot of em in there ^_^.

I end up sleeping on the floor alotta times anyhow hehe ^_^v

ChenCzen
10-01-2002, 01:08 AM
the tessen was carried by samurai, because using his sword wasnt always a good idea. some were made to look like fans but were actually solid metal. when entering a home, you left your swords with the doorman, but you still needed to be able to defend yourself so a secondary weapon like the tessen was ideal. it became fashionable i read, and was even preffered over the sword in some instances. forget where i read this...

Kenshin Ken
10-01-2002, 01:29 AM
aahh I rmemeber that bit now ^^.

I remember one sotry that was told.. I forget the charaters names.. bvut the situation went liek this..

A diplomat of a opposing clan was coming over for a visit to this one lord's dwelling one day.

The Lord ordered the servents to slam the sliding doors hard and shut as soon as the diplomat came over to kneel and bow at the room before he would enter.


The diplomat came.. and the servents opened the slding doors ( take note that these doors slid aroudn pretty well.. and they were made of pretty heavy wood) The diplomat put his Tessen down spread open as he kneeled over to bow. and the Servents did as they were told... They slammed the doors shut as fast as they could.. however... The Tessen caught the doors and the doors simply rebounded off the Tessen.


I ehard this off of a few sites ^^.

ChenCzen
10-01-2002, 01:36 AM
thats in a book or two ive read also.

engrish
10-01-2002, 01:44 AM
Ever seen Sukeban Deka? I just love how that girl swings her yo yo to beat up the bad guys.

pakachu420
10-01-2002, 12:25 PM
aw...fack, look what i started with the gun thing...oy...

swords: great from a artisttic point of view, but not to practicle for use in modern times.(bringing a sword to a gun fight)

guns: generally not to good artisticly, but u have a better chance of making it outta Compton with a gun than a sword

bows: can be very artistic, can be very practicle though range and reload time make the gun a bit more practicle in a battle situation.

given the choice i prefer some well planted high yield explosives ^_^y

j/k
where's the fun in that? beside watching stuff go boom.^____^;;

officer_fujita
10-02-2002, 02:43 AM
I also love weapons, especially those belonging to asian martial arts (not really because I think they're better than their western counterparts, I'm just more familiar with them, I guess). Although they are outdated and have little or no practical use in the present world (as compared to firearms), one could not help but admire the beauty and history behind them.

I have studied aikido for a short time, and now I'm studying kendo (I've been at it for almost two years now), so it's natural for me to choose the Japanese sword as my favorite weapon. Some exotic Chinese weapons also fascinate me, like the dual half-moons (I believe these were used in the movie "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon"), the iron chain, and the tri-sectional staff.

Rosiel:
Shouting and stomping is an important part in kendo. To be able to score a point in kendo, the sword, mind, and body should be one. The kendo-ka must strike the target accurately (sword), shout his/her intended target (mind), and stomp his/her foot loudly(body). Without one of these, a kendo-ka will not be rewarded a point.

I also like European fencing (I was watching the finals in the Asian Games earlier), and I also admire fencers for their grace and cat-like agility.

battlechaser
10-02-2002, 02:27 PM
im kinda obsessed with swords. i was a varsity of european fencing back in college and i now practice japanese fencing (kendo). if im choosing a weapon, i prefer wielding a rapier. ^_^

pakachu420
10-02-2002, 02:36 PM
i'll take a naginata

ChenCzen
10-02-2002, 02:38 PM
are we choosing swords now? in that case put me down for a 'drying pole'. i got the skills!

battlechaser
10-02-2002, 02:45 PM
hehehe... then let's go in an island then do the battle royale thingie with the weapons of our choice!

ChenCzen
10-02-2002, 02:55 PM
a fight on an island eh?

'...there, on that island'

::thumbs his nose bruce lee style, then makes an extremely exaggerated hand motion::

'we can take this boat...'

Kenshin Ken
10-02-2002, 04:35 PM
hehe ^^ if we battle on ze island...I too shall join ^^ weilding the katana or whatever weapon I cna think of.

engrish
10-02-2002, 04:51 PM
hehehe... then let's go in an island then do the battle royale thingie with the weapons of our choice!

*picks up the frying pan* :skidude2:

Koumori
10-02-2002, 07:16 PM
Originally posted by officer_fujita

Shouting and stomping is an important part in kendo. To be able to score a point in kendo, the sword, mind, and body should be one. The kendo-ka must strike the target accurately (sword), shout his/her intended target (mind), and stomp his/her foot loudly(body). Without one of these, a kendo-ka will not be rewarded a point.


Simultaneously. Yes. Though it's more than just stomping the foot, too (cuts off dissertation).

I tried European fencing once, in college. I attended the first meeting of the fencing club, but at that time I was SO out of shape that I wasn't sufficiently healed to go to the second meeting. I could probably do it now, but I'm busy enough. :)

pakachu420
10-03-2002, 03:40 AM
Originally posted by battlechaser
hehehe... then let's go in an island then do the battle royale thingie with the weapons of our choice!

ok, lets go!
*jacks the nuclear football*

...oh...wait, i gotta be on the island?

*puts nuclear football down, picks up naginata*

heh heh, i knew that
^_^;;

battlechaser
10-03-2002, 12:27 PM
>*puts nuclear football down, picks up naginata*

yep... no nukes please. the radiation itself could kill as all. ^_^

i'll take a mobile suit. ^o^

Ayaka
10-03-2002, 12:54 PM
> i'll take a mobile suit. ^o^

Which, of course, will NOT cause mass destruction on an island? And besides, by modern theory, all he has to do is bring the nuke; the threat of it alone will keep anyone from attacking. ^_~

Personally, I'm gonna bring a camera and WATCH. ^^ lol

Neko Cathy
10-03-2002, 05:44 PM
Originally posted by pakachu420
bows: can be very artistic, can be very practicle though range and reload time make the gun a bit more practicle in a battle situation.


Not always the case. Ever watched LoTR when Legolas stabbed his attacker that was coming right at him, quickly reloaded and fired? Arrowheads are sharp enough to do that... even practice target arrows can cut you. Heck, you can even use an arrow like a sword. Swinging the arrowhead at someone can leave a nice scratch. In fact I have a nice visible scar above my left kneecap from quickly withdrawing an arrow from my quiver and it scraped up hard against it... I didn't get stitches, and I should have though.

But yea, archery can hurt like a crazy bitch, especially when you're arm that's holding the base (not the bow string) is right against the bowstring and when you fire, it hurts insanely. Hell, my armguards don't even help allieviate the pain when the bowstring whips it. I can still feel the painful impact w/ it on... but then again, my armguards were made poorly.

Rosiel
10-03-2002, 06:09 PM
> The kendo-ka must strike the target accurately (sword), shout his/her intended target (mind), and stomp his/her foot loudly(body). Without one of these, a kendo-ka will not be rewarded a point.

I find this fascinating, because it's almost a ritualized battle cry. Which is probably why it disturbs me a little, because it's closer to the act of killing, more raw... Ack! It's so hard to explain!

While European fencing (as applied to, say, 17-18th century musketeer duels) is more of a dance where one suddenly drops dead. The feeling of danger is not as omnipresent. It's sort of like a gloss put on the act of killing.

Do I make sense? Probably not. ^_____^

> Though it's more than just stomping the foot, too (cuts off dissertation).

But I'd LOVE to hear the dissertation!

> I was SO out of shape that I wasn't sufficiently healed to go to the second meeting.

It's really hard on the knees. X__X

ChenCzen
10-03-2002, 06:13 PM
nukes?! mobile suits?! i can see where this is going. it happened everyday when we used to play g.i. joes in the sandbox.

kid 1: 'well, we cant be killed, cause... um... we have shields! and nothing can get through them!'

kid 2:'nah-ah, cause ive got shield eaters! they eat your shields and then you are killed by my super death ray which kills everything!'

kid 1:'no way, cause my soldiers are wearing super-death-ray-proof vests!'

kid 2:'youre stupid! theres no such thing!' :: picks up gi joes and runs home mad::

tydawgsd
10-03-2002, 07:53 PM
Yeah weapons and martial arts are cool. I have been doing Aikido for 16 years now, and I still love it. I learned some Aiki-Jitsu too. I am also taking fencing and kendo. All of it is fun. As far as weapons go, I have some experience with Iaido (Sword-drawing art) and this is my third year fencing. Just started kendo. Through Aikido I have learned the Jo(Staff), which is my favorite weapon for its versatility, Bo-Ken(Wooden sword) and Tanto(Wooden knife). I like the staff because you can bludgeon, thrust, strike, throw, blend, keep distance etc. Plus you can just grab a broomstick or a tree branch and you have an effective weapon. I have also practiced with a Jo against multiple attackers. It is effective, but really hard to do right, and that is what my weapon training in concentrating on now.

officer_fujita
10-03-2002, 11:33 PM
Koumori> yes, I agree that it's more than just stomping your foot. nice avatar btw. ^___^

Rosiel> My former instructor would always encourage the kendoka in his dojo to shout as loud as they can, so it can get a bit noisy at times. But there was this kendoka who's shout was eerily similar to Xena's (yes, the warrior princess).

And i do get the message you're trying to convey. But in kendo, it seems the presence of danger was intentionally added. Students were constantly reminded to treat competitions against each other as if they were true duels.

Koumori
10-03-2002, 11:37 PM
Originally posted by Rosiel

> Though it's more than just stomping the foot, too (cuts off dissertation).

But I'd LOVE to hear the dissertation!

Well, okay, you asked. ;) The footwork he's talking about is called fumi-komi-ashi, and is the footwork that accompanies any strike. The basic kendo footwork is a sort of sliding step; the kendoka pushes forward off the ball of her left foot, slides her right foot forward, and immediately slides her left foot into position to push off again. Fumi-komi-ashi is designed to cover a lot of distance; the left foot still pushes off, but the right foot lifts off the floor and takes a long stride forward, putting the energy of the kendoka's body into the strike. The "stomp" he's talking about is the sound of the right foot hitting the floor, which I differentiate from a 'stomp' in that ideally the motion should be forward, not upward. One of the basic tenets of kendo is "ki ken tai ichi," "spirit, sword and body as one." Fumi-komi-ashi is the "body" component of this; the foot must hit the ground at the same time the shinai hits (sword) and the shot is called (ki). All three must happen simultaneously (and some other stuff needs to happen) in order for the strike to be considered good/valid.

> I was SO out of shape that I wasn't sufficiently healed to go to the second meeting.

It's really hard on the knees. X__X

I think it was my quads. Yeah. . Stairs. Owie.

Fujita: Thanks. My friend drew it for me.

pakachu420
10-04-2002, 12:52 PM
Originally posted by Neko Cathy


Not always the case. Ever watched LoTR when Legolas stabbed his attacker that was coming right at him, quickly reloaded and fired? Arrowheads are sharp enough to do that... even practice target arrows can cut you. Heck, you can even use an arrow like a sword. Swinging the arrowhead at someone can leave a nice scratch. In fact I have a nice visible scar above my left kneecap from quickly withdrawing an arrow from my quiver and it scraped up hard against it... I didn't get stitches, and I should have though.

But yea, archery can hurt like a crazy bitch, especially when you're arm that's holding the base (not the bow string) is right against the bowstring and when you fire, it hurts insanely. Hell, my armguards don't even help allieviate the pain when the bowstring whips it. I can still feel the painful impact w/ it on... but then again, my armguards were made poorly.


hmm...still i think most guns still have distance on a bow as well as stopping power but if someones really that good...more power to em.

and as for archery hurting...oh fack yeah it hurts. i forearm got smacked by the bowstring from a compound(not sure of the pulll weight though)
next time i get arm guards



ok if ure gonna have a gundum imma bring my gundum eating dinosaur to kick your gundums butt so nya!! :devil:

officer_fujita
10-04-2002, 07:59 PM
There's no such thing! ~picks up Gundam and goes home mad.~ =P

battlechaser
10-05-2002, 01:42 PM
then i'll take my special gundam wielding an anti-dinosaur rapier-bow (what the????) hehe... =)

then the island for the battle royale will be... jurassic park? whoa! O_O"

asmodeus
01-04-2004, 12:33 AM
i started learning how to use a sword when i was 3... lets just say i like my swords

yuffieleonheart
01-04-2004, 01:07 AM
I love collecting weapons ^o^ i recently got a samurai set and a tai chi sword for christmas :3

"I'm currently taking isshin-ryu karate as my college gym class. bout time I did some official martial arts class, heh."~ oshi

that was the first martial art i took ^_^, we didn't do much with weapons in chungdokwan. but we do a lot in aikido =D

KIL78
01-04-2004, 01:30 AM
I Fence in the european style, (the spanish school) But a gun will beat a sword every time, and a bow a good 99% of the time.

Arc_The_Lad
01-04-2004, 03:10 AM
I want to own a REAL weapon, I'll just deal with my makeshift ones. =P

I'm pretty much into everything. I'm good with my fists, learned to fight thanks to my dad and friends. I'm also pretty good with anything that bashes, bat, pipe, mace, whatever. I also have great aim with a gun. good with swords too. I learned by watching movies and stuff. =P

I hope I get a sword soon, my friend just bought a sword, even though he doesn't know what it is, I think its a estoc.

DarkCorp
01-04-2004, 03:20 AM
Thats the great thing about guns, you don't fuck with someone that has one. I often go to the range with my friends to just shoot and letoff some steam.

As to blades, they are cool as well. I however, prefer to obtain a blade that has been crafted and folded many times by an expert swordsmith. If your going to buy a sword or dagger, might as well get the blades that could really kill if the need arises.

PS: For those who think guns are for pussies, that is your logic. My logic is if someone wants to try to rob me, start shit with me, or generally harm me, then I have every right to blow their fucking heads off. America is way too lenient on criminals for my taste.

Arc_The_Lad
01-04-2004, 03:54 AM
It sucks trying to get a gun in Canada, having to fill out all of those forms and paying like 400$ or something like that. Stupid gun registration, waste of time and money.

chou-dono
01-04-2004, 10:25 AM
hey yeah im a big enthusiest on weapons. i love blades the most. i got the nick name katanagari from my friend since i hade so many blades and knew about them. and dark corp the govt is to weak. it has been cirrupted by money and if you want to join my take over as a member of the juppon gatana you can. uh huh huh

Hanyaan
01-04-2004, 03:40 PM
While I don't think I could ever really hurt someone, I have to admit that I love swords and swordplay, but only in an aesthetic way. I've taken some fencing classes, and I need to get back on doing that. (I got seriously sick and couldn't take classes for a few months.) I have a decorative sword and two decorative daggers, and I'm trying right now to get my dad to help me hang the decorative sword on the wall. XD

Other than that, I love making cosplay staffs. I haven't tried making any other type of prop weapon, but staff-making is one of my very favorite parts of cosplay.

Guns just aren't quite as cool-looking as other kinds of weapons. And as I said earlier, I only like weapons in an aesthetic sense.

squallsoft
01-04-2004, 03:50 PM
Yeah, I've been doing Aikido for about a year or so. I have a few katanas and straight blade ninja swords. I think swords(japanese) are like works of art so I display them on the wall in my room. It's also fun to just mess around with them. Oh, and I have this Buster Sword(FF7, Cloud)replica that I got from swordsonline but it's kinda small and stupid so I think I'll sell it on ebay for way more than I got it :) .

Gash
01-05-2004, 03:21 AM
KIL78: hehehe, Six String Samurai. One of my favorite B-type movies.

I Love weaponery period. Sometimes I feel bad for admiring things that were forged for the purpose of killing. But the beauty and craftmenship put into the forging of some weapons can not be denied. I love the sparkle of a well polished blade in the sunlight. Makes my heart race every time I see it. I'm fascinated with Japanese swords myself. I don't know much on the history of swords, I just love how they look. I have two Japanese Katana's. I don't know the proper names for the swords, but one is the traditional sword that Samurais carry; the curved ones. The other is more straight. I think it's associated with ninjas? Anyway, I only had a week of training with a Katana. That's nothing. I try and watch action movies and tv series like the Highlander, and mimic the styles I see on the show. But I much rather be taking a class for it.

I love european weaponery as well. I definitely want to own a Rapier. But then, I wouldn't mind having a battle axe, a mace, Claymore, Sword and Shield either. I want one of those swords like the one on Gladiator.

As for guns, guns in a fight is pretty cheap. But there are some guns that stimulate my visual senses as well. Like the silver or chrome Magnum on that old TV show, SledgeHammer (Think that's what it's called? My memory sucks). The LUSTer of chrome and steel. Gotta love it. I've got to get me one of those.

Rosiel: Like a dance huh? Yeah, some sword styles are very graceful, but very deadly. Like a dance of death. The chinese sword fighting style used in Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon was nice. I wouldn't mind posessing the knowldege of either of those styles.

I don't like the ideals behind the creation of weapons. But the artistry that goes into their making get's much respect.

Arc_The_Lad
01-05-2004, 08:04 AM
Guns just aren't quite as cool-looking as other kinds of weapons. And as I said earlier, I only like weapons in an aesthetic sense.

Ever seen Devil May Cry? Dante makes guns look cool there, or anything for that matter. =P

Sagara-san
01-06-2004, 04:48 PM
These are a few of my favorite weapons........

SephirothXer0
01-06-2004, 07:25 PM
Guns got range huh? Ever fight Sephiroth in Kingdom Hearts? I'll just whip out Masamune and jack smack you from the other side of the world XD

KIL78
01-07-2004, 08:14 PM
Guns win it is why the army uses them If swords were better they would have swords but they are not so they use guns.

On a side not the best weapon for fighting an unarmoured opponet on foot is the schlager or rapier and it is only sword developed with guns

Arc_The_Lad
01-07-2004, 08:21 PM
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg2/ffdojo0/Picture_001.jpg

Thats my friends sword, he said its actually killed someone, used in a war.

Wabbit
01-08-2004, 02:28 AM
first post for me on this site (s'funny what you find by accident these days ;) ) I've been doing a renaissance style of swordsmanship for about two years ("sca"; just smile and nod) , and in all this time, I can say one thing; I'm good at dying entertainingly above all else. a world without guns is like...umm...a world without guns! That works :) nice saber by the way, though the blade looks a little thin to be a military sword; to me it resembles an early olympic saber, but I'm no expert :)

DarkCorp
01-10-2004, 01:25 AM
The sword I think is an Epee, used mostly in duels and fencing. If the blade was thicker, then it could also be a sabre.

Sabre: http://www.currentdealsonline.com/swords/453115064.html

Epee: http://www.badsfencing.com/fencing.html#4 Also has the foil and the Epee.

Wabbit
01-10-2004, 03:43 AM
I was talking about an olympic saber ;) foils have square blades, epee's have a diamond cross section and a bell guard, a saber has a saber guard and for some odd reason, a narrow blade (what were they smoking?!); trust me, I'm a fencer :bigtu: it's even below epee on your link (after I frantically searched for a picture, I checked on your link, hehehe)

Efecss
01-17-2004, 11:25 PM
thats in a book or two ive read also.

I've been "studying" martial arts philosophy/history/and other things for over 15 years now I have ten Kung Fu books I've read from the first 5 forms, to Mantis Kung fu. to haikido, Akido, ju-jitsu and so on.

There is no place close to me that teaches any of them. And when one opens, and I find I can make the time, it's closed. (Very small town.) But what these guys are teaching is mostly tournament style karate.

I have also gotten about eight books on the subject of ninjutsu. Plus I have over 100 magazines which have historical data with information on weapons and techniues. I have even created a comic book character called: Kunoichi, which is the name of the ninja women. Although she is a full body unitard, long-long hair babe, I've taken the old weapons that a genin would have used and modernized them a bit. BUT! What techniues and items she uses are directly from what I have gained.

As for all the weapons talk: In some ways, weapons are a show of the development of humankind. Many of the things we have today, have dirrived from weapon development. Even the way we run our hospitols and schools.

And in many ways, weapons have an elegance and an art to them that cannot be shown anywhere else. The swordmakers who made the kitannas dressed and prayed before making the swords. It was a pure ritual for them.

And the Kung fu masters bend and sway like reeds in the wind with their weapons. Elegance follows form and function, and force. While the Karate masters are more solid, and rooted. the mideval knight looked elegant with his sword by his side, or having it next to him, ready for the use. And a fencer dances like a bird perrying and retreating.

WEapons are cool, and deffinately need to be respected.

The-Real-Link
01-18-2004, 02:44 AM
Yeah I have to totaly agree with the majority of posts on this thread so far, although the use of weapons is not prefered, their creation, power, and appreciation still runs high. I'd really like to try fencing (since we have it at college) but also to be able to shoot a bow. Sadly enough my vision wouldn't probably make it too accurate but I guess I just respect having that power through something essentially man-powered. Although the graceful dancing of asian or fencing swordplay is very interesting, most of my studies have revolved around Eurpoean weaponry and so I prefer my steel blades, but then again those are the only ones I own right now ^^.

Wabbit
01-18-2004, 04:24 AM
try fencing; if your college has it, do it. You'll love it (well, I'm assuming you will.). I actually started with the olympic style, and found the renaissance equivillant later (european swordsmanship; smile and nod. ;) ); it's a lot more interesting I find, especially since it isn't limited to only fighting a single opponent at one time, nor is it done on a piste, rather in the round (if that makes sense; if not, it isn't limited to a line 2 or so meters wide). When you get three or more fighters onto the field, things can get really interesting; it completely changes things :)