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Philia Philis
05-23-2002, 09:52 AM
Yup yup, you know you all want to try this! XD Okies, I told Rosiel I'd post this for her and managed to forget for a million years, but here it is finally! Yay! This is going to be my end-all writeup on fiberglassing so I can just refer people to this thread whenever they ask me how to do it. XD

If you have any questions, just ask me, and I will try in my own sad, pitiful little way to give you a decent answer. XD Just remember, I don't know how much it'll cost or how much time it takes. There's a LOT of time taken in sanding if you want to get it to the correct smoothness. And as for how much it costs, er... ask Home Depot. XD It's not very expensive.
Anywho, here we go.....

First, you have to make a mold. There are several ways of doing this:

For chest armor, bracers, and other such fitted things: Make a cheap dressform using one Duct Tape Method #1 from this website-http://www.taunton.com/threads/pages/t00002.asp
You can use the same technique for wrapping just about any part of your body. I actually made one of my head for a wigstand. XD Just gotta be careful.
If the armor sticks out from the body some, I would try adding some 1/4" or 1/2" upholstery foam (the stuff that comes in big sheets at Joann's) to the dressform.

For swords: Depending on the size and shape, either shape them out of florists' foam or cut them out of a very light wood, like balsa or basswood.

For shoulder guards and other such miscellaneous things: Shape them out of florists' foam, wood, plastic, whatever. XD Be creative. For my rockets, we used two Coke bottles, filled them with that foaming insulation stuff that comes in a can, then cut off the tops of the bottles where the necks were and also the bottoms of the bottles. Then we shaped florists' foam to the shape of what the rocket tops were supposed to look like and glued them on. The black part on the bottom was shaped out of florists' foam, and the fin was made of wood.

Anywho, next you cover the mold with a large piece of plastic (ie: trash bag) and lay the fiberglass cloth over it. [You only must cover it if you want to save your mold.] Then mix the resin (it comes in a can) and catalyst(it comes in a tube) and spread it over the fiberglass. [Also a quick note on mixing the resin and catalyst- do it in a cheap plastic cup that you can throw away. This stuff will NOT come off anything. So you also must use a disposable paintbrush for applying the resin to the cloth.]

After the resin dries, repeat this process to whatever thickness you desire. When it's as thick as you want it, sand it. THIS would be the part that takes ages. You have to SAND and SAND and SAND to get it smooth enough to look really nice. After you have done this, you will most likely notice teeny little holes ("pinholes") in the fiberglass. They are annoying and will not be magically filled up with your spray paint, so you must fill them with an auto body filler like BONDO. Once you have done this and it has dried, sand it again, fill the pinholes again, sand again, etc etc etc, until all of the pinholes are gone . Then paint it with spray paint and seal it.

Yay! Done! ^___^ *takes a breather* It really is simpler than it sounds. I just have this tendency to over-explain things. ^^;;;

If you want to see pictures, just IM me and ask. ^^ I can't seem to get them to work here for some strange reason. ^^;

Mei Lan Chang
05-27-2002, 12:45 PM
Hey Philia, that's a really helpful post. Thanks!

chibi_kitty
05-29-2002, 12:46 AM
when you say florists foam do you mean oasis... the stuff you arrange flowers in?

Philia Philis
05-30-2002, 10:45 AM
> Hey Philia, that's a really helpful post. Thanks!

^^ No problem, Mei Lan!

> when you say florists foam do you mean oasis... the stuff you arrange flowers in?

Is oasis the stuff that's like, really really soft? *not sure* Because if it is, that's the stuff that's too soft. I saw three kinds of green florists' foam at the craft store I checked- the first was very stiff and I couldn't easily make an indention in it with my finger(just like regular white foam). The second was soooo soft that it practically just crumbled in my hand when I picked it up(is that the oasis stuff?), and the last kind I was about to indent easily, but I did have to put a little pressure on it. You want the last kind. ^^ It sands to the shape you want VERY easily and is great to work with.

Legato/Machan
05-30-2002, 04:15 PM
thanx Philia, this post helped me a lot!!!!

Ayaka
05-30-2002, 11:58 PM
Looks to be VERY helpful if I ever get over my deep fear of fiberglass. I helped make a canoe in 8th grade; I had fragments of fiberglass in my fingers for weeks. So this leads to two things, a) you should maybe add some safety stuff to this for people who (like the guy who helped me) wouldn't think of everything, and b) do you have any tips on how to NOT get fiberglass in your hands?

Philia Philis
06-10-2002, 12:25 PM
Ahh, I'm such a dummy! I totally forgot to reply to this! Sowwy, Ayaka! ;_;

Anywho, I'm glad you guys are finding it useful! :D My dad says that you can use latex gloves, but they will not last very long! XD Hmm... safety tips! Good idea! *will add those*

yayahan
06-11-2002, 02:54 PM
Please make sure to wear googles and something to cover your month, as well as latex gloves. Fiberglass Fragments stay in your body forever once they are inhaled or enter through pores and believe me, you do not want that to stay in you.

^^ Nice tutorial, Erin!

Rosiel
06-11-2002, 04:56 PM
> Fiberglass Fragments stay in your body forever once they are inhaled or enter through pores and believe me, you do not want that to stay in you.

LOL Yaya, you single-handedly managed to terrify me away from fiberglassing... I am SUCH a klutz... if I can sew my fingers to my costumes, I can only imagine what I could do with fiberglass.

>_<

Philia Philis
06-11-2002, 06:42 PM
Eeeek, oh no! Cybeeeeeeeele, don't worry! I freaked out when my dad first told me that stuff too! It sounds scarier than it is, trust me. XD
But yes, Yaya is quite right (thankies, Yaya! ^^), and you do have to be really really careful.

OH! One more thing! My goodness, I can't believe I forgot to add this! *will remember to fix it later* When you sand the fiberglass, it's a good idea to do WET SANDING. Meaning, get everything all wet when you sand it. XD It keeps the fiberglass dust you generate from getting into the air. Don't think that means you can get away with not wearing your safety equipment though. ^^ Better to be safe than sorry, as they say.

Rosiel
06-11-2002, 07:21 PM
> Better to be safe than sorry, as they say.

I have a feeling I willo have to go do it on the roof of my building and away from my cat, if I ever try... he gets his nose in EVERYTHING. >_<

Ringo
06-13-2002, 05:03 PM
Oooo! More fiberglassing. We used fiberglass for Silky from tenshi ni narumon (http://www.paper-wings.org/gallery/silky/silky-index.jpg)
Wet sanding? We will definatly have to try that!

Rosiel
06-13-2002, 06:18 PM
Oh I saw you at Akon! I don't remember how it came about but I remember talking to you. *lack of sleep z__Z*

Your accessories were nicely done. Maybe I SHOULD try then... >__>

Integral
06-14-2002, 01:51 AM
>..< My hat ended up being a total bizzatch.. but I was very proud of the end result.

One suggestion over makinga mold-

I went the paper mache route, and made the form I wanted with poster-board & paper-mache and anything else I could find, and just fiberglassed over it. The paper mache isn't heavy, and you don't have to fight it trying to get the fiberglass off it. I just left mine on.

And the hat- Just used straight bondo on posterboard. foo. So I cheat and cut corners in a few places.. but not the places that need a lot of support! ha!

Ringo
06-14-2002, 07:01 PM
Originally posted by Rosiel
Oh I saw you at Akon! I don't remember how it came about but I remember talking to you. *lack of sleep z__Z*

Your accessories were nicely done. Maybe I SHOULD try then... >__>

Hmm.....were you in a costume. hmmm....*straches head*

Rosiel
06-14-2002, 09:37 PM
> Hmm.....were you in a costume. hmmm....*straches head*

Yes, I was wearing my Ramirez from Skies of Arcadia outfit... hmm... prettyboy with unruly white hair, a huge sword and metal shoes...

Ack...

A picture is a thousand words right?

Ramirez at Akon (http://www.arslansenki.net/as.com/cosplay/ram1c.jpg)

Ringo
06-14-2002, 09:44 PM
Yes! I remeber now. *waves*
You guys had great costumes. ^_^

Philia Philis
06-17-2002, 04:26 PM
Ahh, paper mache! That is another good idea! ^^ That costume was awesome, BTW! I was sad my photo of it ended up being under-exposed. *cries*

dark_arkis77
06-27-2002, 05:33 PM
::sniff sniff:: it bee-yuu-ti-ful!!
much wai!
I love all featured costumes and I am SO going to use fiberglass on my Hikaru costume!! The only problem i have would be as to how you would get body armor on and off?? I wasa thinking maybe velcrow or lacing it or useing latches?? any ideas?? I could really use some vetern cosplayer help her (this is only my second time y'knoe). The best thing about it is that I can use it for halloween too!! ha ha! th3 kiddi3s @ sk00l will ph34r m33h n0w!! ::evil laugh:: I..uh....got carried away didn't I?? opps, gomen ^.^;;

Integral
07-21-2002, 08:15 PM
ahh! Rociel! I remember talking to you, too! ^..^ I was pestering Celine most of the time. I remember your Rociel cosplay from last A-kon, though :) I was really frustrated, b/c my picture didn't come out how I wanted it to. I didn't get a full-body, and completely missed all the rose-petals on the bottom of your gown >..<

Rosiel
07-22-2002, 09:39 AM
>L I remember your Rociel cosplay from last A-kon, though I was really frustrated, b/c my picture didn't come out how I wanted it to. I didn't get a full-body, and completely missed all the rose-petals on the bottom of your gown >..<

I'm always amazed when people remember my old costumes! *____* That white one is my favorite costume ever...

Are you going to be at Akon next year? Planning to do some more fiberglassing? I want to try to do it too, but I am so chicken. ^__^;;;

Sakura_blossom
07-25-2002, 07:43 PM
O.o sounds like a butt load of work

*ish lazy*

but I might try that for my next costume. I have some arm bands and stuff I need....

lamross
07-26-2002, 11:19 PM
hey rosiel,
nice signature, rammstein, isn't it?
'goddamn not an angel when i die', i believe

lamross
07-29-2002, 04:48 PM
how many layers is normally enough for the fiberglassing
because i am really not sure how many i should apply

Makoto
07-29-2002, 11:44 PM
It depends what you're doing, Lamross. It doesn't take much, though. Two is usually sufficient to hold just about anything. It's very strong, but light, stuff. ^_^

Integral
08-03-2002, 10:40 PM
Originally posted by Rosiel

I'm always amazed when people remember my old costumes! *____* That white one is my favorite costume ever...

Are you going to be at Akon next year? Planning to do some more fiberglassing? I want to try to do it too, but I am so chicken. ^__^;;;

Wouldn't miss is for the world! (I'll also be at Ushicon and Animefest)
Fiberglassing sounds really intimidating... but it's not too bad. You just need to have the proper work area& follow all the instructions. Do you live in Tx? Quite a few of my freinds lately have been asking about how I made my shoulder armor.. and I've been thinking about holding a little mini-workshop sometime soon, when I need to start working on the fiberglass stuff for this next A-kon.

Rosiel
08-04-2002, 11:55 AM
> Do you live in Tx? Quite a few of my freinds lately have been asking about how I made my shoulder armor.. and I've been thinking about holding a little mini-workshop sometime soon

*sigh* I can't believe I am going to miss that!
I live on the East Coast, sadly, so I guess I will have to drag another clueless newbie friend and attempt fiberglassing on our own.

But if you have any extra tips to give I'm all ears!

Kusanagi
08-04-2002, 04:20 PM
I was in auto-body collision repair and we learned the following technique for using fiberglass on car panels.

Wear rubber gloves. Not the small latex kind.

Dump the resin and catalyst in a paint tray liner.

Take the sheets or strips of fiberglass, place them in the paint pan until they are coated in the resin, then apply to whatever! Car panel, Armor mold, best friend, ect. :D

Integral
08-04-2002, 09:19 PM
Originally posted by Rosiel
> Do you live in Tx? Quite a few of my freinds lately have been asking about how I made my shoulder armor.. and I've been thinking about holding a little mini-workshop sometime soon

*sigh* I can't believe I am going to miss that!
I live on the East Coast, sadly, so I guess I will have to drag another clueless newbie friend and attempt fiberglassing on our own.

But if you have any extra tips to give I'm all ears!

:( That's a shame. I've caught you at A-kon the past 2 or so years in a row, so I guess I assumed you were local :(

I think Makoto posted it earlier, but we have both a Fiberglass (http://www.paper-wings.org/omake/armor/fiberglass.html) and a Bondo (http://www.paper-wings.org/omake/armor/fiberglass.html) tutorial on our site, compliments of Mako-chan. We haven't exactly put it up for public use on the site yet, though, b/c we want to take pictures of a work in progress so that we can add reference pictures to the tutorial.. but it's all pretty basic. Just smelly, messy, and a little bit toxic.

Rosiel
08-05-2002, 03:52 PM
> That's a shame. I've caught you at A-kon the past 2 or so years in a row, so I guess I assumed you were local

I've flown in to Akon for three years in a row because I have some close friends in TX... ^___^ and I will be there next year too!

> a Fiberglass and a Bondo tutorial on our site

This is the correct bondo tutorial URL (http://www.paper-wings.org/omake/armor/bondo.html)

I read through it, and it's starting to scare me off of fiberglass. I seem to be pondering papier mache once more. LMAO. That and people might not like it too much if I start fiberglassing on my apartment building's roof. ^______^

Shadra D
08-10-2002, 05:05 AM
Naaahhh, Rosi, we'll do it some weekend when I can make it up there! Because I am -SO- going to put you in a Chris costume! I will! I will O_O and I want to learn to do fiberglass anyway.. *plans to take over the fiberglass construction shop at SCAD. Mwaahaha, get out of the way, product design majors, there's a COSPLAYER comin' throug! >D

And Lamross, Rosi's quote means:

'God knows I don't want to be an angel'

I don't believe it's from the Rammstein song, and in that song the translated lyrics are something along the lines of

"There are no more angels, because we killed them all"

Which was why it was so utterly hilarious when an Evangelion AMV with Asuka singing the main part was created x.x;

I still can't believe I remember my german e.e;

Rosiel
08-10-2002, 07:46 AM
> Naaahhh, Rosi, we'll do it some weekend when I can make it up there!

That would be GREAT. I need SO MUCH HELP for this.
At least to help me make casts of myself to mold the armor on. LMAO So anytime! Just come down! I'll cook French food to encourage us!

> Because I am -SO- going to put you in a Chris costume!

O_O

> *plans to take over the fiberglass construction shop at SCAD.

Maybe I should come see you instead! LOL

> 'God knows I don't want to be an angel'

Yup. ^____^

> I don't believe it's from the Rammstein song

You mean I DO believe right?
It's from Engel. *I love that song*

> and in that song the translated lyrics are something along the lines of

> "There are no more angels, because we killed them all"

You mean the English version? I don't even remember those lyrics in the English version... I must be forgetting things. LOL

Shadra D
08-10-2002, 10:48 AM
I do, don't I... don't remember anything @_@;; Oh, well, at least I remember my German ^.^;

And yes, come seee meeee! I'll scope everything out when I get there in a month and see what I have access to ~.~

And good news, my new Roommate is a photography major o.o Can we say photoshoots? >D

Rosiel
08-10-2002, 08:27 PM
> And good news, my new Roommate is a photography major o.o Can we say photoshoots? >D

Oooooooooooooh. *_______*
That would be amazing!

Speaking of which we had a photoshoot today and I have to tell you all about it... it was HILARIOUS!

NeoDrifter
08-10-2002, 09:43 PM
Latex gloves? would that be the kind you use to wash dishes? I was told to use that....also you can get a military gasmask with hazard suit/hood. I was told to use these for best safety measures above all. They don't cost too much either. Also go to http://www.studiocreations.com/howto/index.html they have good tips when it comes to fiberglassing, I wish you luck!

DigitalCactus
08-11-2002, 02:02 AM
Howdy kids. Since this is my first time posting on cosplay.com, i'll introduce myself. Im Christopher. *yay*
Anyways, Im REDOING my Cervantes Gold Armour outfit from scratch, as the old one did NOT stand the test of time,( freaking cardboard) And I am in a bit of a pinch.
In some parts the armour completely wraps around the body part it covers, like the forearm for example. I was wondering, much like dark_arkis77 as to how I could get it on and off. I was thinknig I could cut the armour into 2 sections and have them velcro together perhaps?

this would all be cut in half BEFORE I begin to fibreglass or course, as of right now its just Priority mail cardboard envelopes covered in gaffers tape (REALLY NICE to work with) then comes the papier maché, and then the gesso(for that nice smooth surface to put the fibreglass onto

Shadra D
08-11-2002, 01:12 PM
WELL! It seems as if I'll be doing some fiberglassing myself! As of this morning, Rosiel has made a deal with me! For the price of my lovely company one weekend and sewing all those HORRIBLE UNIFORM DETAILS on one of my costumes, I shall put my very life at risk to do fiberglass modeling and casting! I AM SO BRAVE!

*dies*

But, no, really ~.~ And not only that, but a lot of fun resin casting as well. Yaaay, we love shiny sparkly pretty jewels! Lots.. and lots.. and lots of them o_o; And flowers. Mwah x_X And silver casting for rings.. and carving more lapis than I thought I would have to.. and.. and...

*hides under her blankets* Noo, the hawk, keep it awaayy, don't like mechanics....

<--- thoroughly and certifiably insane this afternoon, thanks o_o_d

Rosiel
08-11-2002, 01:39 PM
> As of this morning, Rosiel has made a deal with me! For the price of my lovely company one weekend and sewing all those HORRIBLE UNIFORM DETAILS on one of my costumes, I shall put my very life at risk to do fiberglass modeling and casting! I AM SO BRAVE!

I love tailoring, I love Sasarai, I think I got the better end of this deal! =)

Shadra D
08-11-2002, 02:00 PM
I like getting my hands covered in hazardous materials, thinking up cheap and clever ways to get great results (THe wings, man, come on! Wire, duct tape, clear colored folders from staples, and hot melt glue? I'm a genius, admit it!), and I don't have to sew TRIANGLES. You know I got it good!

*dies*

Right, back on topic... I'll need to do more research, both online and when I get to SCAD in a month *going to scope out the studio workshops that the product design people use* They have fiberglass out the wazoo, I can certainly ask a professor to show me the ropes ~.~

After that, I'm going to assault the metals and jewelry people. I think I'll sign up for that my second quarter, so I can use the studio there and make Sasarai's rings as well as any other small jewelry bits I'll need for costumes this year. *itching to use the lapis and opals she has lying around* Mwah.

Ayaka
08-11-2002, 03:13 PM
Digital Cactus - Yeah, I think that's what you're going to have to do; though, maybe you could attach elastic instead, that way there won't have to be a gap between the two pieces or velcro showing on top? I'm facing the same problem, I think that elastic may be the way to go.

Shadra D - Ano . . . after you bug some jewelry people . . . could you share some tips with us? ^^ I intend to bug the jewelry people at my school too, but hey, the more the better. ^^

Shadra D
08-11-2002, 09:11 PM
Well, I already know a lot about jewelry, since I took a few lapidary classes... mostly I know about wire-wrapping and stone carving, and a little bit about faceting... I'm intending to learn silver casting and such, really ^.^

If you have any questions about making jewels out of resin, I can give you advice, and if you want to know about making jewels out of real stone, I can help you with that, too! The only thing is, with real stones, you need to have the right machinary.. my cabbing machine was about $800 o_o; I do love it, though, even if I have not used it much.

Grr, one day I'll scan the things I wire wrapped o_o they're really pretty.

But, yes, when I gain new skills, I'll be sure to share it with everyone! *laughs*

Ayaka
08-11-2002, 11:18 PM
I have a number of raw stones, my great aunt was a jeweler (she worked with her husband; he was really famous ^^). But they worked with the lost wax method, which is probably not what I'd be doing. I'll probably be getting the stuff cast for me, too much to learn. OO RE: working with stones, do you absolutely have to have equipment?

Tips about resin cast stones would be great though, I have the supplies but haven't done it yet (no need to, but I will soon). Main question - what do you back the stones with? I was thinking foil, like the purchased ones, maybe paint some kind of detailing or shading onto it to give some more depth . . . (btw, you have good coloring technique. Post a link, and people WILL poke around. XD)

Shadra D
08-12-2002, 12:16 AM
Eeek, someone's been looking at my website (Read: a bunch of random directories!) LMAO.. thanks, though!

As far as carving stones... you can TRY to do it with a dremmel moto tool, or by hand, god forbid, but they would BOTH take forever and a half to finish! Machine results are the best, and faster, too o_o

As far as casting resin stones, last time I did it, I ended up just using tin foil, as I had nothing else available! *laughs* But you know, silver or gold leafing paper might work very well. You could also make a mold the exact shape and size of a very small reflective mirror or something.. I have seen them sold in craft stores like Michaels.

And making some texture on the backs of the stones sounds very interesting! o_o I'll have to experiment with that some day.

anyway.. tips.. Ah, tip number one:

If you're going to cast large stones, like the size of the red baubles on Lina Inverse's TV series pauldrons (the big red ones. Those are the ones I made...) Cast them at least a MONTH before you put them on x_x they took forever to dry. Gwah. Also, don't put too much dye in ^^; First time I did it, I put in way, way too much dye and they were too dark for the light to go through very well >_>;

Definitely do all of the mixing and casting OUTSIDE. The fumes on those things are AWFUL. UGH.

Let's see.. if you can find a bunch of real rubber bowls to use to mix the resin and stuff, that's a good idea, and if you can cast all of them at once, that's good too.

One of these days I'm going to experiment with using too much catalyst.. I want to see if it will do anything interesting o_o Hmm hmm hmm.

Maybe we should just start a jewel-making thread and see what others think! O_O;

DigitalCactus
08-19-2002, 01:38 AM
Quick question... Can you carve fibreglass once it has dried WITHOUT damaging it? I.E: Can I inscribe something like words or line drawings onto it using a knife of somekind? Or a Dremel tool? Someone once told me that you cant cut it because it'll just crack, but can you CARVE into it is what Im curious about.

Shadra D
08-19-2002, 11:09 AM
I would think you'd be able to.. since you have to sand the hell out of it when you've made a cast.

I recommend a Dremmel Moto Tool for that yes. You have to do it slowly, because yes, cutting it can possibly make it crack. Drilling, sanding, carving, it's all good.

KuroBara
08-19-2002, 11:49 AM
Shadra ~ Is that SCAD as in Savannah College of Art & Design? I have a friend there, photography / graphic arts major. ^_~ Whoa, this is the simplest fiberglassing tutorial I've ever seen. I read one once for making full body armor, and it was just too long. A friend of mine want to make this arm (http://liquid2k.com/ymiaka/hulk smash.jpg) and fiberglassing is probably the way to go.

DigitalCactus
08-20-2002, 12:39 AM
Ooh!!So wait... if I wanted to drill a hole in it to say... attatch armour plates together with screws.. I could?! or say I wanted to make a loop for an elastic strap to go through?

Shadra D
08-20-2002, 01:20 AM
If you can make some flat sections to drill and place atop the other and put screws in, I would recommend it. However be careful to have it as flat as possible, or it could shatter.

^^ good luck!

DigitalCactus
08-20-2002, 11:21 PM
aah.. okay.. one quick question (again) I havent actually begun the fibreglassing YET.. I made my base from priority mail cardbord envelopes.. then papier maché, and gesso ontop of that. Will the fibreglass do anything to the gesso. I noticed that when gesso gets wet again its gets all runny.. will I have this problem if I had left it as papier maché also? or would it not matter since the fibreglass is going to be sanded down once its dry anyway? *whew* that was more than a quick question XD

Shadra D
08-21-2002, 01:52 AM
Eeek, late reply to you, Kurobara! Sorry, yes, that's the school ^.^ He he he, everyone seems to know someone going there ^.^

As for your question, DC, I'm afraid I can't answer that since I don't know -that- much about it @_@ I hafta learn, though...

spacecosboy
08-21-2002, 07:29 AM
Has anyone seen this site? It has lots of info and step by step instructions on making a suit out of fiberglass!
Amazing Guyer suit! ^_^


http://www.bioweapons.com

Shadra D
08-21-2002, 01:52 PM
Yes, that link was posted towards the beginning of this thread ^^

His tutorials are very very good, though.

DigitalCactus
08-22-2002, 01:09 AM
^_^ If anyone cares, I have a couple pics of the leg armour SO FAR (pre fibreglass) I only took a pic of the right leg, since both look exactly the same, just mirrored.

I dunno what happened to that 1st pic... my sister scrunched the polaroid right as it was developing, and it got that wierd euphoric-looking effect.
www.geocities.com/C_Canizales/pre_armour.gif

Heres a pic of what its supposed to look like.
www.geocities.com/C_Canizales/cervantes_armour.jpg
Talk about complicated.

heh ok it SHOULD work now

Shadra D
08-22-2002, 04:20 PM
Geocities doesn't let you link directly to pictures.. though you can cleverly rename the file to .txt and it works just fine ~.~

Rosiel
08-22-2002, 04:31 PM
Just remove "http://" in your URL when you get a Geocities error and try again. It'll work.

I just checks fot "http://" to see if you're coming from offsite (i.e. no HTML on geocities and hence no ad revenue for them).

DigitalCactus
08-22-2002, 04:51 PM
D'oh! Sorry I forgot that GeoShities doesnt let you link Try copying and pasting :S

Integral
08-23-2002, 08:30 PM
Hmm.. In reply to one of your earlier questions, cactus-
I'm not sure how the gesso will react to the fiberglass resin. It should, in theory, be fine.
If I were you, I'd fiberglass the entire peice together, and then cut it into as many sections as you want with a dremel tool.

Drilling holes in the fiberglass is fine. IT'll hold up..

But you really want to wait until after you finish it with the body finish/ bondo before you do anything like that.

Same with inscribing.

Fiberglass is hard to work with after it's dry, but if you're looking for texture, etc, you'll be MUCH better off putting a few layers of bondo on top the fiberglass. It's a lot easier to sand, meaning your finished product will be smoother.

If you want it to look battle worn, it's easy to just take a peice of steel wool and gouge a few scratches on the bondo, too.
It's hard and durable, but softer than the fiberglass, and a lot easier to..hmm.. customize. Thats's why I'd reccommend a layer of bondo on top of the fiberglass before you carve anything into it, say if you want some sort of surface groove, etc. Much easier to do with a dremel on bondo. As long as you go slowly, you shouldn't have any problems with cracking, etc. I've done a set of shoulder armor, and a few small projects with fiberglass& bondo, and the only time I've EVER had it crack on me was when a corner with a really thin layer of bondo on it was forcefully bent (by accident) nearly in half XD It's pretty durable, so be gentle, and it'll treat you well.

DigitalCactus
08-24-2002, 12:14 AM
wow arigato, integral ^_^ That piece of advice will definatly come in handy! I almost forgot about using bondo ontop of the fibreglass XD

engrish
08-29-2002, 01:28 PM
how about this link

http://www.studiocreations.com/

it's even more informative then the bioweapons site. It deals with a lot of star wars costumes and not anime. However, most of the info can be transfered over for use with anime costumes. These sci fi guys have been doing this kind of stuff ever since us anime fans were in diapers so why not learn from the old timers instead of reinventing the wheel?

DigitalCactus
09-09-2002, 02:19 PM
ack! Does anyone know if they sell luquid hardener in bigger sizes? My chest plates are taking forever to dry. I added hardener at the last minute to a few spots and those areas are already dry.. they look like green snot..(mmm) anyway they dried VERY quickly i was wondering if I should use more hardener to get it to dry faster or is too much hardener a bad thing?
Im doing full body armour all fibreglass and i know i'll need a ton of the stuff..

Makoto
09-09-2002, 02:32 PM
Too much hardener makes the overall concoction a bit more brittle, but otherwise I've never had any adverse effects with it. Down in Texas, the humidity is a problem with drying-time, but the heat usually balances it out. ^_^

How much resin are you using, overall? It takes a very small amount to "wet" the fiberglass mat; it looks like snot in the paint tray/bucket, yup, but it doesn't need to be that thick on your actual project. In fact, any excess resin should be wiped off the mat if possible.

They sell extra tubes of Bondo hardener, I know, and I believe you can find extra resin hardener as well. For a big project, it's worth the investment. ^_^

DigitalCactus
09-09-2002, 11:51 PM
ooh hmm.. the snot-like colour is on the actual piece itself.. but its rock hard.. some other areas are still a bit tacky... maybe becuase its still hot out? well I think I may go back to the garage and check up on my pieces. Meanwhile.. I just sit and wait to hear from Home Depot as to when I start working :) hehehe Employee discount on fibreglass!! woo hoo