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Fabulousity
08-30-2009, 09:41 AM
I've been reading a lot about Sculpey, trying to figure out if it's safe or not, and I'm finding that there are a lot of varied opinions. One person says that it's completely safe and they bake a piece and then put in their dinner, another says that if you use it you'll end up in the hospital, and another yet says that you should just be cautious and if you're going to use it often, buy a toaster oven, and leave the room while it bakes, but the only way you could really get sick from it is if you burn it black. So who do I believe? It's the phthalates that possibly make it dangerous, right? They're making kinds without phthalates now, so does that mean that it's safe?

Do you use it? How do you feel about the toxicity of Sculpey? It says clear as day on their website that it's been approved non-toxic, so why is there so much controversy? Do people think they're lying? And if you think it is toxic, can you recommend some alternatives? Thank you to everyone who replies; you're really helping me out a lot!

o01101011
08-30-2009, 09:46 AM
...What...the...F....


None of the above. Sculpy is safe, its a product kids use for projects a lot...if it wasnt safe they wouldn't market it. Just don't use it in your mouth to make false teeth (though people have done it...) since it collects bacteria like no bodies business from saliva.

Mangochutney
08-30-2009, 10:28 AM
Here's a partial list of other useful, safe things people have said were hideously poisonous:

1. Tomatoes
2. Polio vaccine
3. Fluoridated toothpaste
4. Pasteurized milk
5. Meat
6. Shampoo

Given a large enough population, for any otherwise harmless substance, someone will be deathly allergic to it and other people will swear up and down that it will do terrible things you due to something they heard or read. I'm the one who said you could leave the room while it bakes if you wanted, and I said that because yes, if it makes you feel better, you can leave the room while your Sculpey bakes. It will not make any difference other than possibly making you worry less, and that's always nice.

Sculpey will not hurt you. Use it, enjoy it, have a lovely day.

Ion
08-30-2009, 11:03 AM
Just because a few idiots didn't use it properly does not mean the product itself is bad. I use Super Sculpey a lot for props and maquettes.

It IS dangerous if:
1.) You leave it in the oven far too long so it burns to the point where you see black smoke or you pick up a hot piece thus burning your hands. Both situations are easily avoided.

It is NOT harmful if:
1.) You follow the instructions on the packet, which is not difficult at all.

The fumes are not bad. It's just that it doesn't smell like food. Barring any crazy pre-existing condition, you and your pets will not pass out or be harmed in any way. As Mango said, it's more of a comfort thing to leave the room, crack some windows, or turn on a fan if you're concerned.

If you think it's too dangerous, just use Model Magic which air drys. It's also a Crayola product which is designed to be used by children aka very non-toxic.

Sonified
08-30-2009, 11:03 AM
Man, I love cos.com forums.

MederuKabuto
08-30-2009, 11:24 AM
@ Sonified: you actually like reading this tripe?

As ion said, as long as you pay attention to the instructions, sculpey is perfectly, completely, and indisputably safe. I work with it all the time for crafting, and I even use my normal baking oven to make it with. I've cooked food in the oven after baking sculpey, and not a single person has ever been poisoned or otherwise harmed by my chocolate brownies. :D Again, FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS. Do not deviate from them, especially if you've never used it before.

Patches
08-30-2009, 04:40 PM
I took the following from Sculpey's Material Safety Data Sheet. It's done by a man that's a Diplomate of the American Board of Toxicology which I'd trust more than the hearsay of random people on the internet.

SECTION I - PRODUCT IDENTIFICATION
PRODUCT NAMES: SCULPEY
SCULPEY III
SUPER SCULPEY
PRO SCULPT
SCULPEY SCULP-A-DOLL
SCULPEY LIVING DOLL
SUPER ELASTICLAY
SCULPEY MOLD MAKER
SCULPEY MOLD MAKER
& POLYMER CLAY CONDITIONER
GRANITEX
PREMO! SCULPEY
SCULPEY SUPERFLEX BAKE & BEND CLAY
AMAZING ERASER CLAY!
PRODUCT SIZES: 28 GRAMS 454 GRAMS
PRODUCT CLASS: MODELING CLAY (OVEN HARDENING)

SECTION II - HAZARDOUS INGREDIENTS
None

SECTION III - PHYSICAL AND CHEMICAL CHARACTERISTICS
BOILING POINT: N/A
MELTING POINT: N/A
VAPOR PRESSURE: N/A
SPECIFIC VAPOR DENSITY (AIR=1): N/A
SPECIFIC GRAVITY: N/A
SOLUBILITY IN WATER: N/A
REACTIVITY IN WATER: NON-REACTIVE
APPEARANCE AND ODOR: CLAY

SECTION IV - FIRE AND EXPLOSION INFORMATION
FLASH POINT (METHOD): N/A
AUTOIGNITION TEMPERATURE: N/A
EXPLOSION LIMITS IN AIR (% BY VOLUME): NOT EXPLOSIVE
EXTINGUISHING MEDIA: NO SPECIAL MEDIA REQUIRED
FIRE FIGHTING PROCEDURES: NO SPECIAL FIRE FIGHTING PROCEDURES REQUIRED
UNUSUAL FIRE & EXPLOSION HAZARDS: NOT COMBUSTIBLE
SECTION V - PHYSICAL HAZARDS/REACTIVITY
HAZARDOUS POLYMERIZATION PRODUCTS: NONE
STABILITY: STABLE CONDITIONS TO AVOID: NONE
INCOMPATIBILITY (MATERIALS TO AVOID): NONE
HAZARDOUS DECOMPOSITION PRODUCTS: NONE
SECTION VI - HEALTH HAZARD DATA
PERMISSIBLE EXPOSURE LEVEL: SEE SECTION II FOR COMPONENT PEL/TLVs
PRIMARY ROUTES OF ENTRY: EYE, SKIN, INHALATION, AND INGESTION
EFFECTS AND SYMPTOMS OF ACUTE EXPOSURE: NONE EXPECTED
EFFECTS AND SYMPTOMS OF CHRONIC EXPOSURE: NONE EXPECTED
CARCINOGEN LISTING: NTP: NO IARC: NO OSHA: NO
SEE SECTION II FOR COMPONENTS AFFECTED
MEDICAL CONDITIONS USUALLY AGGRAVATED BY OVER EXPOSURE TO THIS PRODUCT: NONE
FIRST AID MEASURES: NONE REQUIRED.
NO ACUTE HEALTH EFFECTS EXPECTED.
SECTION VII - SPILL OR LEAK PROCEDURES
PRECAUTIONS TO BE TAKEN DURING STORAGE AND HANDLING: NONE REQUIRED
STEPS TO BE TAKEN IN CASE A MATERIAL IS SPILLED: NONE REQUIRED
WASTE DISPOSAL METHOD: DISPOSE IN ACCORDANCE WITH FEDERAL, STATE AND LOCAL REGULATIONS.

SECTION VIII - PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT/CONTROL MEASURES
RESPIRATORY PROTECTION AND SPECIAL VENTILATION REQUIREMENTS: NONE REQUIRED
OTHER PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT (GLOVES, GOGGLES, ETC): NONE REQUIRED
WORK/HYGIENE PRACTICES: Do not heat above 175 degrees C (350 degrees F), allow to come in contact with an open flame or use with a hot knife or wire

SECTION IX - ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND WARNINGS
THIS INFORMATION SHEET IS FOR CONSUMER USE ONLY

SECTION X - COLOR INFORMATION
THIS MSDS APPLIES TO THE FOLLOWING COLORS WHICH ARE ASSOCIATED WITH HAZARDOUS AND/OR NONHAZARDOUS
INGREDIENTS:
Products Colors with Hazardous Ingredients
SCULPEY none
SCULPEY III none
SUPER SCULPEY none
PRO SCULPT none
SCULPEY SCULP-A-DOLL none
SCULPEY LIVING DOLL none
SUPER ELASTICLAY none
SCULPEY MOLD MAKER none
SCULPEY MOLD MAKER none
& POLYMER CLAY CONDITIONER
GRANITEX none
PREMO! SCULPEY none
SCULPEY SUPERFLEX BAKE & BEND CLAY none
AMAZING ERASER CLAY! none
__________________________________________________
Form Completed by: Larry L. Cook, PhD, DABT
Duke University
03/09/05

Roughly translated that says it's really safe stuff.

CartoonHero
08-30-2009, 04:51 PM
I used Sculpey for a project in third grade. o_0 My little sister even licked it.

I'm fine. My sister is fine. Well, she's loud and obnoxious but I don't think we can blame Sculpey for that. :)

MayonakaAme
08-30-2009, 05:18 PM
I love the Material Safety Data sheet.

:D It makes me feel all safe from the clay.

Fabulousity
08-30-2009, 05:49 PM
Thank you for the Material Safety Data sheet! That makes me feel a lot better.

Sonified
08-30-2009, 09:08 PM
MederuKabuto, of course, I read threads like these about how poisonous Sculpey is and feel a lot better about myself.

Newsflash, if it wasn't safe, there would be very obvious indications on the packaging.

deanna.retha
09-09-2009, 03:33 PM
Yeah, I've used Sculpey since I was like...12. My 'rents would never have let me use it if it was unsafe. Just don't eat it. I'm sure it won't kill you, but really...it's clay. You wouldn't eat that plastercine they let you play with in school. And besides, if you or others are fingering it all the time...can't be too clean XD

And never NEVER bake it if it's attached to styrofoam. I read in a book that if you do, the styrofoam creates a toxic gas, but that's the foam, not the clay. Just, I know it's not the cheapest so people like to cover something in it and use another material on the inside. If you do that, ever, use aluminium or even wood.

verdatum
09-11-2009, 12:31 PM
Sculpey (and other polymer clays) is not going to kill your oven, and it's not going to do anything to you to touch it. However, it specifically expresses on the package that it is not food-safe. This means it should not be used in the mouth (no sculpey fangs please), and it should not be used to make things like dinner plates or anything else that comes into contact with foods.

I expect (and this is totally a guess) that the only issue is that it leaches plasticizers during it's life. Some plasticizers, like bisphenol A, can mimic hormones. So not exactly, toxic, it just might give you bigger genitals.

4ng31
09-11-2009, 02:41 PM
So not exactly, toxic, it just might give you bigger genitals.

Sup now Extenze?

erayachi
09-11-2009, 03:24 PM
Oh geez, in the past 5 years, I must have accidentally ingested about 4 pounds of this stuff. Being a student at college (and two years in a university dorm) means you don't get much space to work with, so generally my Sculpey-sculpting space and my eating space were one and the same. I'm still alive, though that doesn't mean it's healtthy to put near your face. Put you don't have to worry about inhaling any bad fumes, or poisoning yourself for eating a few potato chips with sculpey still on your fingers.

Just make sure you don't eat it or eat out of it...or off of it. It smells kinda funky when you bake it...nice and earthy, and I personally love that smell.

In summary, Sculpey isn't Play-Dough (which my babysitter used to eat just to make us laugh), but it isn't polyurethane or outdoor sealing agents. It's the best invention in the world.

Sonified
09-11-2009, 10:29 PM
And besides, if you or others are fingering it all the time...can't be too clean XD


Yea, no kidding.

Ani_BEE
09-12-2009, 11:12 AM
I can be toxic If you OVER BAKE it. Some stupid girls in my Graphic design class in a previous year didn't fallow instruction for there FIMO and baked it for 4 hours. This started to break down the plastic and smolder. They had to be hospitalized for a week.

So the moral of the story is fallow the instructions, a lot of things can be dangerous if not used properly.


Myself I scrub out the oven before I do any baking after baking Sculpty or FIMO becuase you never know.

If any of you are really concerned about the toxins we put into our living environment then you should read this book.

http://slowdeathbyrubberduck.com/

korokuXneo
09-12-2009, 11:56 AM
100% safe. Used it for my Lulu cosplay for the chopsticks. I was actually able to bake it on WOOD pieces painted with acrylic paint IN the oven. Nothing happened, though I was worried about the acrylic exploding. Stood beside the oven with baking soda. Nothing happened.

Fashwiing
09-12-2009, 09:27 PM
Think of it this way. You're more likely to be bitten by a shark while in space than you will be to to get sick from using Sculpey. My sister made a plate out of Sculpey once and ate off it for a while because she didn't want to use the plates in the house. She turned out perfectly fine.

Follow the freaking instructions and nobody gets hurt.

Maple-chan
09-24-2009, 08:51 PM
I've been using sculpy since a couple years now because it is pretty much the safest thing on the market. (Maybe PlayDoh might be saver...) I often wet my fingers to smooth out lines and I'm still alive and healthy...so far!

fandalia
09-27-2009, 07:31 PM
well sculpy says its none toxic on the cover. i have made and bought jewelry out of sculpy for everyday wear and cosplay use and i'm still healthy.

Jii
02-13-2010, 02:21 PM
I actually want to make teeth out of this stuff. I got the idea from a few cosplayers who has done it in the past.
I don't plan on eating the stuff, but I do want to have it in my mouth for a while so I can actually wear the teeth when I want.

Is there a way to clean it?

Chu Chi
02-14-2010, 01:26 PM
Sculpey (and other polymer clays) is not going to kill your oven, and it's not going to do anything to you to touch it. However, it specifically expresses on the package that it is not food-safe. This means it should not be used in the mouth (no sculpey fangs please), and it should not be used to make things like dinner plates or anything else that comes into contact with foods.

I expect (and this is totally a guess) that the only issue is that it leaches plasticizers during it's life. Some plasticizers, like bisphenol A, can mimic hormones. So not exactly, toxic, it just might give you bigger genitals.

Actually, the hormone that it closely resembles is estrogen. No effect on women, but has been shown to lower sperm count in men (and this stuff if found in your average plastic water bottle!) But I'm not aware if those are in sculpey or not.

ANYTHING that you burn in the oven is toxic, as smoke inhalation can and will kill anyone exposed to it long enough, so in this regard sculpey is no more dangerous then your Thanksgiving turkey.

I have used sculpey many times. Sometimes I actually bake it in my car while I'm at work (Georgia summers are no joke!). It really gives it a nice slow bake, and so far has never cracked (which can be a problem in the oven if there are air bubbles in the piece). Hope that helps!

Marika
02-14-2010, 03:32 PM
I've been reading a lot about Sculpey, trying to figure out if it's safe or not, and I'm finding that there are a lot of varied opinions.

Good to check on things from every end and read up on things, that way you have a wealth of information to sort through.

One person says that it's completely safe and they bake a piece and then put in their dinner, another says that if you use it you'll end up in the hospital, and another yet says that you should just be cautious and if you're going to use it often, buy a toaster oven, and leave the room while it bakes, but the only way you could really get sick from it is if you burn it black.

-Person #1 reads & follows the instructions, but has one oven. This is why they do that. It will not kill them. My mother did this for years and we're all still alive and healthy.

-Person #2 is an idiot who probably picked up the hot pieces and burned their hands so badly that they dropped it on their lap and it rolled down their leg, burning them all the while so they had to go in to be treated for stupidity. This person won't die from Sculpy, they'll die because they're a moron.

-Person #3 reads the instructions, follows the instructions, heeds any possible warnings, and uses it enough that they don't want to tie up a major appliance so they purchase a toaster oven so they can still work while dinner's on. They probably multitask as well, which is why they leave the room. It will not kill them.


So who do I believe? It's the phthalates that possibly make it dangerous, right? They're making kinds without phthalates now, so does that mean that it's safe?

Do you use it? How do you feel about the toxicity of Sculpey? It says clear as day on their website that it's been approved non-toxic, so why is there so much controversy? Do people think they're lying? And if you think it is toxic, can you recommend some alternatives? Thank you to everyone who replies; you're really helping me out a lot!

Do you use hairspray? What about Tylenol? Epoxy? Dish soap? Laundry detergent? Dryer sheets? Cellular phones? Artificial sweeteners? Tampons?

Every one of those is probably more harmful than Sculpy, but people use them on a daily basis AND YET WE STILL LIVE! Impressive, isn't it?

Read the instructions, follow the instructions, use common sense and you'll be perfectly fine.

PineappleMilk
02-14-2010, 11:32 PM
I have used sculpey many times. Sometimes I actually bake it in my car while I'm at work (Georgia summers are no joke!). It really gives it a nice slow bake, and so far has never cracked (which can be a problem in the oven if there are air bubbles in the piece). Hope that helps!

Wow, really? Up here in MN, our winters get so cold your spit freezes before it hits the ground. Talk about polar opposites...

And to add the the growing debate: I've had sculpy pretty much everywhere under my fingernails, in my kitchen, in my dining room, haven't been able to get it out - I'm alive.

Ion
02-15-2010, 12:25 AM
I actually want to make teeth out of this stuff. I got the idea from a few cosplayers who has done it in the past.
I don't plan on eating the stuff, but I do want to have it in my mouth for a while so I can actually wear the teeth when I want.

Is there a way to clean it?

You really do not want to make teeth from sculpey as it is porous and not "food safe". Yes, you're not "eating it", but it's also not designed to be in your mouth because bacteria clings to porous/rough surfaces. Your mouth will essentially be a cesspool. Cleaning "sculpey teeth" with toothpaste would only scratch the surface more. Lose-lose situation.

If having crazy teeth is essential to your cosplay, buy or commission teeth from a place like Dental Distortions (http://www.dentaldistortions.com/) which uses smooth materials that are safe and intended to be put in your mouth without the bacteria & "food safety" issues.

sd3
10-19-2011, 11:36 AM
I made my father a tobacco pipe out of sculpey but I'm having second thoughts of giving it to him just yet. is sculpey safe to smoke out of after baked? I've read a lot into the ingredients and it seems its a safe products but i have yet to see anything about inhaling it

verdatum
10-19-2011, 01:18 PM
Unfortunately, sculpey should not be used for smoking products. The heat generated will cook the polymers and create any number of new chemical compounds. This would also likely effect the "taste" of the smoke, and make it not very enjoyable.

If the pipe is well made, or you put significant effort in it. I would suggest plugging the pipe up so that it cannot be used, and then explain to your father that it is intended as a "decorative pipe only"

sd3
10-19-2011, 02:14 PM
do you know of any other types of clay that would be good for this?

CozartEnma
10-19-2011, 08:18 PM
i would think red clay would work as demonstrated in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBuNHYOEGlw

koi-ishly
10-19-2011, 08:38 PM
do you know of any other types of clay that would be good for this?

As a ceramics major, clay unless glazed/sealed (and even that isn't fool proof) is something you do not want to smoke out of. Unless you have the right type of clay. I'm not going to go into all of the details as this is not on topic, but like polymer, potters clay is porous. High fire clay is less porous and is dish safe (meaning you can eat off of it), but I honestly wouldn't trust it for a pipe.

There's a reason most pipes are made out of hard woods or a different type of pipe... is made out of glass.