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Thearah
09-17-2009, 01:24 PM
HELLO!

Let me first proclaim something of the utmost importance. I have absolutely NOTHING against the anime/manga of Death Note, and the people who choose to cosplay characters from it!

This thread was created because I was merely curious as to what other people thought, who agreed with me, who disagrees with me and for healthy chat on the subject. It is not meant to be a critism on anyone, thing or idea.

Thank you. *bows*


Has anyone noticed the sudden influx of Death Note Cosplayers around the world? It is something akin to the world-wide phenomona of when Bleach was first unveiled, or even Naruto. They seem to swarm conventions, entering and exiting through every door, found in every restaarant, even in the sanctity of the bathroom!

Lol.

Okay, so I jest and over exaggerate, but there are A WHOLE LOT of them all around.

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I had someone ask me once why I 'hated' Death Note Cosplayers. I must stress that I don't at all! I have respect for all cosplayers, and this includes any and every variety! Then they asked me, why everyone ELSE hated them. I was kind of intrigued and I actually thought about this.

I don't think that it's necessarily that they 'hate' them, I think that they are just tired of seeing any and everyone dress as them. Personally, I am not a fan of Death Note. There is nothing wrong with it, it's just not my style nor cup of tea.

And from another personal point of view, I like really elaborate and impressive cosplays. Kira and L, and mostly EVERY character from Death Note (with the exception of Ryu) are so easy and rather boring to cosplay. Again, just my thoughts, so no killing me. I like life. xD

But as to why people 'hate' them, I think it's rather simple. There are just so many of them. When I was at San Japan, everywhere I turned there was a Kira or L. It got rather annoying after awhile, but even more so were the photographers that stopped every single one of them. =.=lll

Ahem. I'm am sorry, I got distracted.

I don't hate them, I just find their numbers a tad overwhelming.

What does everyone else think?

ShindoW_Kitsu
09-17-2009, 01:35 PM
I agree with you, they can be overwhelming, but when you see a really detailed cosplay (or a rarer character, IE: I wanna see a Sidoh cosplayer), then its worth sitting through the millions of the main 6 or so that do get cosplay. I think Misa cosplayers have an oppurtunity to really expand on the character and do their own thing because of her varying style. =D

I have the same issue with Naruto ect, but its because thats what is popular in America, the action anime. It's not a fondness for me, but I will watch it and agree that they do have good storylines most of the time until it gets A) redundant and B) long. I really liked Death Note: I read the manga first, then watched the anime subbed, then dubbed, saw the first film, read the side novel... but I'm not obscessed with it. It's just one of those shows that grips you and asks why and probes how you feel about certain issues like murder, religion, ect.

Besides, for every L out there, there are 10 other cosplayers to stare at. ;p

Angel Tear
09-17-2009, 01:38 PM
In the world of cosplay you're going to get fads. And as you've stated, we've had Naruto and Bleach, Kingdom Hearts and I've noticed the increasing numbers of Yoko's. But that's all they are, fads. And you could easily have this topic refer to any one of these fads. They will come and go, and you will always have people who like or dislike the series. But I suppose what the numbers of cosplayers tell you is the popularity of the series.

But I do agree that some people can get very bored of seeing the same costume. I know I do. In the end I ended up making a game of how many Naruto's I would come into contact with in the day. I suppose people like variety when they go to a con and want to talk about how different people made their costumes, rather than finding out how many people bought the same 'perfect' wig for Light.

yatak
09-17-2009, 02:35 PM
From what i have seen, the Death note rush was last year.... this year seems there was alot less.

Thearah
09-17-2009, 02:36 PM
You are right that I could apply this to every single fad, but I picked Death Note specifically. Naruto, Bleach and Kingdom Hearts... I can stand them, even if they are overwhelming, because there are characters that are interesting to look at!

I fing Death note slightly annoying because people boast about how amazing their Light or L is, when in reality it's simliar to a closet cosplay. Again, I mean no malice with this: I have seen quite a few amazing L's and Light's, but I guess my point is that if it were going to be a fad, I'd wish it's a fad that requires a little more... OOMPH with it. xD

Angel_Cakes
09-17-2009, 02:43 PM
The way I see it is there are two kinds of Death Note cosplayers. The ones who take it seriously and put a big effort in to getting every single wig fiber in place and the ones who use it as a last minute thing and put pretty much 0 effort in to it. I do like the serious ones because they are treating it like any other anime/manga, but the last minutes I just dislike. I dislike seeing cons getting over run with bad copys of L, Misa and Light.
But, I have nothing against death note cosplayers overall considering I may be one myself very soon.

lawliet.
09-17-2009, 02:49 PM
Wellllll...I'm a Death Note cosplayer, it's my favourite anime in the entire universe, but I do agree that there are a lot of us out there.
However, some of us really put the effort into making even a very simple cosplay something a step higher, such as really getting into the character or going to the lengths of getting every detail of their appearance right (I speak for myself here, I'm getting black contacts for my L cosplay :D). I think a big challenge in cosplaying Death Note is making your essentially "easy" cosplay something more. And plus, it's a lot of fun cosplaying as your favourite anime character, and mine happens to be L, whose outfit is...yeah. About as simple as you get.
I do think DN deserves the love it gets, though; I think it's an incredible anime with so much thought put into it. But yes, I do agree with you on the aspect that there are endless, endless cosplayers for it.

Thearah
09-17-2009, 02:54 PM
@ Angel Cakes and lawliet; Yes! A agree with both of you. Y'all pinned it exactly. There are the cosplayers who put effort in it, and those are the ones that even I, yes I, have taken pictures of. And while I won't say they are BAD, there are people who do not put in as much effort, and sadly I fear this is more often that not.

lawliet.
09-17-2009, 02:59 PM
^ Agreed completely. It's disappointing when people just throw together a really shoddy cosplay from Death Note just because the outfits are everyday. This really applies to any anime with casual clothing, or just any anime in general. I mean, just because a character looks easy doesn't mean that it's a piece of cake to pull off well.

Thearah
09-17-2009, 03:04 PM
That's exaclty what I meant by 'closet cosplay'. If you are going to do a cosplay, put SOME effort in it. Sadly, I am guilty of waiting till the last minute and cutting corners myself... But... Yeeeeea.

infinitydragon
09-17-2009, 03:25 PM
The way I see it is there are two kinds of Death Note cosplayers. The ones who take it seriously and put a big effort in to getting every single wig fiber in place and the ones who use it as a last minute thing and put pretty much 0 effort in to it. I do like the serious ones because they are treating it like any other anime/manga, but the last minutes I just dislike. I dislike seeing cons getting over run with bad copys of L, Misa and Light.


This, a million times;
I'm personaly not a fan of Death Note and have no intention to cosplay from it; But in speaking to friends and others at cons who are and do, the people who put in alot of effort (L cosplayers expecialy)often get annoyed by by being overshadowed by those who put in no effort at all.

Thearah
09-17-2009, 03:39 PM
^^ Again, what I was trying to stress from the beginning, but these words are soo much more eloquent.

ChapelierFou
09-17-2009, 03:43 PM
Death Note was my favorite series for three years and my first cosplay was Mello. I honestly don't like the vast majority of Death Note cosplays, but when it's done right, I can't help but get excited.

The problem is that there's too many people that just do it half-assed. Barely any of them really try all that hard and it shows.

Thearah
09-17-2009, 03:45 PM
^ Exactly.

lunaladyoflight
09-17-2009, 03:45 PM
If someone would do the costume right, instead of closet cosplaying and Hot Topic costumes, then people wouldn't hate them so much.

Those of us who actually put time and money into making our costumes are annoyed at the weeaboo brats who show up in a hot topic corset and call it Misa when it in fact looks nothing lik her. They get their photos taken because they're a popular character, even if the costume sucks balls. Those of us who spent upwards of $300 on a costume and accurately represent the character get no photos taken because "OMG UR SO NOT MISA I DONT CARE."

I'm sick of weeding through album after album of shit cosplay to find like four pictures of my friends and I in our hand crafted costumes.

Thearah
09-17-2009, 03:51 PM
^ I feel your pain as well. My first cosplay was Seung Mi-Na from Soul Calibur (there are pics in my galleries if you MUST go see. xD). I couldn't sew, I ran out of money and time, but I made it anyhow. I hot glued the entire thing together.

Anyhow, it was missing a LOT of detail, but I thought for something last minute, it was okay.

People either liked it or hated it. One woman pulled me aside to tell me that I was, "Disgracing the community of cosplayers" by wearing something so... "Unifinished" and that it was a "Mockery". And then she turns around to take a pic of a kid in a Naruto cosplay, obviously commisioned (he was like... 7) and a fake-looking wig.

Champuro
09-17-2009, 04:06 PM
I completely agree with Lunaladyoflight - the problem is not that they cosplay from Death Note, the problem is that they CLOSET cosplay from Death Note en mass and then get all of the attention from photographers and other con-goers. I think that's partially because of the crowd that cons (and anime in general) attract - see: twelve year olds - but it's frustrating nonetheless for those of us who can actually sew and are really passionate about this hobby. I was appalled when, standing behind a Death Note group at a costume contest this year, they all happily informed me that they bought their costumes off Ebay. And were competing with them. Am I crazy, or is that just completely insane?

Rubikins
09-17-2009, 04:55 PM
I cosplay L and really do attempt to put everything into this cosplay. From acting like him, having sweets on hand, wearing makeup to make his under eyes darker, going barefoot and trying to make my hair exactly like his.
I don't want to sound big headed but i do agree with other peoples comments about the closet-cosplays outshining people who actually really try. It just annoys me that i try and put everything into this character and it just gets over looked by someone who half-arsed it >_>;

Sorry again if i sound big headed but it's just one of those things i guess...

Thearah
09-17-2009, 05:07 PM
You aren't sounding big-headed! You agree with those who half-ass it outshining you! xD You seem to really put an effort in to your L cosplay. I'd love to see pictures. <3

Train
09-17-2009, 05:21 PM
I've cosplayed Death Note myself and I have to agree that it is an easy cosplay in comparison to some other cosplays, simply being that characters are wearing everyday casual clothings(except for the shinigamis). However, this doesnt mean every Death Note cosplays turn out well. My friends I actually tried our best to style our hair properly, wear makeups (we werent too familiar with make ups then), pose/act like the character as best as we can, and give some creativity whether it'd be facial expression or the props (a note, apple, pen and etc). I realize not every death note cosplayers put in same amount of time, and money. I dont expect a guy wearing a horribly styled wig (i even saw an afro at one point), sucking his thumb in white shirt, and jean to be recognized as L. I even saw a girl who let her droop down all the way, wearing glasses, white shirt and jean supposedly being L. I mean its great that you're willing to give cosplay a shot, but its too much if you expect to be recognized with that little effort. That goes for all the characters including Light, and Misa. Don't get me wrong though, there are alot of great Death Note cosplayers all over the world, but these kind of incidents tend to overshadow the image of Good Death Note cosplay.

lunaladyoflight
09-17-2009, 05:27 PM
It's just a shame that people half-ass something so easy. Since it IS easy, take it as a learning experience and try to make some things yourself. I know some people are in situations where they cannot learn to sew on their own, but if you have a chance, give it a shot.

It's very easy to make a t-shirt, or dye your L jeans a different shade. Or do that white stitching on Misa's black dress by hand while re-watching the Anime.

I get lots of sewing done while re-watching my favorites or watching something new. My next costume is a Final Fantasy amano costume and I'll be hand sewing and gluing crystal and sequins. D8

@Champuro: eBay costumes in a competition? Where these schmucks aware that that's against the rules unless the commissioner is standing there with them? I hate it when people do that. That mass produced crap devalues everything commissioners like me do too. I have people emailing me and expecting things for $50.

Rubikins
09-17-2009, 06:03 PM
You aren't sounding big-headed! You agree with those who half-ass it outshining you! xD You seem to really put an effort in to your L cosplay. I'd love to see pictures. <3


Haha, thanks ^^; Atleast i know im not alone on what i think...
I also agree that props make a deathnote cosplay much better. I guess it just depends how much time and effort you put into your cosplay.

I'll try and put some pictures up as soon as possible, expo's only a few weeks away, so i should have some up around that time :)

Thearah
09-17-2009, 06:38 PM
It's just a shame that people half-ass something so easy. Since it IS easy, take it as a learning experience and try to make some things yourself. I know some people are in situations where they cannot learn to sew on their own, but if you have a chance, give it a shot.

It's very easy to make a t-shirt, or dye your L jeans a different shade. Or do that white stitching on Misa's black dress by hand while re-watching the Anime.

I get lots of sewing done while re-watching my favorites or watching something new. My next costume is a Final Fantasy amano costume and I'll be hand sewing and gluing crystal and sequins. D8

@Champuro: eBay costumes in a competition? Where these schmucks aware that that's against the rules unless the commissioner is standing there with them? I hate it when people do that. That mass produced crap devalues everything commissioners like me do too. I have people emailing me and expecting things for $50.

Amano? Final Fanasy? Sequins? You aren't doing Rydia from FFIV, by cahnce, are you? *_*

I made my Fran costume while watching re-runs of Project Runway. Best four days of my life. xD

hedgehog92
09-17-2009, 06:52 PM
But you see, you are creating confusion in my mind. Why is an L or Light cosplay so "easy" if no one can seem to do it well?

The thing is, any cosplay you do isn't gonna be "easy" if you want it to be good. As a Death Note cosplayer myself ( Soichiro Yagami) and the coordinator of our Dead!Death Note group this AWA, I took pains to make sure everything was as close to perfect as I could get it.

I MADE Matt's vest myself BY HAND. I made Mello's vest and modified the leather pants so they could have his Belt.

The billions of people that cannot take a "simple" outfit, as you say, and make sure the hair or the wig isn't right (This bugs me phenomenally with L cosplayers, either a lack of a wig or a bad wig drives me up the wall) aren't doing justice to the character. Well that is their own problem.

They are mostly getting attention from the fangirls who are so obsessed by the fact that Light and L are a Fanon pairing and completely ignore the canon aspects of the character. Personally, L creeps me out, because of HOW he does things in the manga and anime. He doesn't seem to have a social or moral code.

People who do variations of the Traditional have more respect in my eyes, those people who take the extra steps and cosplay Ryuk, Rem, Sidoh( a dream outfit of mine) Matsuda....

or people that remember that Matt's pants have ribbing on them or that Mello's vest is a quilted diamond pattern...

But those people just getting into it and think they are the bomb for "pulling" off an "Easy" outfit and getting fangirl attention will soon understand how much they fail when they see people in much more complex costumes acting much nicer to other cosplayers from a different series.

Or maybe they won't... who knows.... But that's my input.

Thearah
09-17-2009, 07:03 PM
^ Nah, I understand. I'm glad that you went the extra mile when you did your cosplays, and I'm glad that you made them shine! ^_^ I LIKE Death Note cosplay, but I have had people tell me how hard it was to put together their Light.

Then I look at my Fran, and then I die a little on the inside. xD

lunaladyoflight
09-17-2009, 08:15 PM
I'm doing Amano Leblanc from FFX-2. I have the designs up on my Deviant Art.

Hedgehog, I'm GLAD you went the extra mile. People should do that more often. It's the people that buy a pack of men's undershirts and a pair of jeans from salvation army. Then just a Cosworx Scruffy and call it L. They didn't tweak anything on their own, just threw a bunch of crap on.

I like well done Death Note cosplay. If it looks like it walked out of the film, HELL YES.

moonfall
09-17-2009, 08:26 PM
I agree with everyone who has already posted. There is nothing wrong with Death Note, liking Death Note, or cosplaying Death Note characters, but I'm tired of Hot Topic Misas that and people who think any white shirt + blue jeans= L. You can do it, sure, and I'm not going to say anything rude, but I will probably ignore you and not take your photo if I think you look bad.

ShinobiXikyu
09-17-2009, 09:43 PM
The way I see it is there are two kinds of Death Note cosplayers. The ones who take it seriously and put a big effort in to getting every single wig fiber in place and the ones who use it as a last minute thing and put pretty much 0 effort in to it. I do like the serious ones because they are treating it like any other anime/manga, but the last minutes I just dislike. I dislike seeing cons getting over run with bad copys of L, Misa and Light.


Essentially my thoughts as well (I used to be into Death Note, but never finished the series or cosplayed it- too simple for my tastes). It's essenitally my views on every cosplay out there, especially considering I usually pick popular fandoms; do it really well and I don't care how many there are. Do it bad, and I'll be "Ugh, people, do some REAL cosplaying!"

ScarletRhapsody
09-17-2009, 09:45 PM
Shounen series get all the love and all the fame. There's nothing wrong with cosplaying from a series you like (that happens to be rather popular). I like Death Note, but I don't see myself cosplaying from Death Note any time soon. If I did, I'd cosplay as my favorite character, Naomi. Technically, I have all the pieces in my closet, but while I don't have anything against closet cosplay, it just seems too easy and where's the fun in that?

L has easy clothing pieces. It's not like there's an artbook alternate that Amano designed for him. It's another thing to capture that look - styling the hair, getting the make up down right, and having that funky posture. I'm not saying, crouch while you're at Johnny Rockets, but I want to see L, not dude in jeans and a shirt.

Aphex
09-17-2009, 09:58 PM
I like Death Note but I don't like cosplaying as a character from the anime because many people already done it so many times.

Kyomi
09-17-2009, 10:04 PM
To me, it's not as much the cosplayer, it's more the response to the cosplayer that irks me.

Don't get me wrong. I get annoyed by closet cosplay too, but I understand why it's done sometimes, and I've done it myself once as well.

But the response of (in this case) "OMFG LIGHT"/ "OMFG L" "I GOTTA GET A PICTURE!" that I hear whenever a Death Note cosplayer (or "cosplayer", if they just closeted it) walks by is what gets me the most.

To me, those people are the reason why closet cosplayers succeed so well in a sea of people who spend time to work on their cosplays.

I'm probably completely biased by saying this though. But it's from personal experience. A friend of mine ran around taking photos of every MALE (and male only) L she could find, even though there were some that didn't try at all, and there some females that managed to pull the character off more than males did.

lunaladyoflight
09-18-2009, 01:11 AM
I'm probably completely biased by saying this though. But it's from personal experience. A friend of mine ran around taking photos of every MALE (and male only) L she could find, even though there were some that didn't try at all, and there some females that managed to pull the character off more than males did.

D8 I would have bitch-slapped her. But then again I'm pretty tolerant of my weeaboo fangirl friend because she's just damn funny sometimes.

jounink
09-18-2009, 04:02 AM
Death Note was my favorite series for three years and my first cosplay was Mello. I honestly don't like the vast majority of Death Note cosplays, but when it's done right, I can't help but get excited.

The problem is that there's too many people that just do it half-assed. Barely any of them really try all that hard and it shows.

agreed as well.
I started watching DN when i was in Iraq in 07 and at the time i did like it (i hate misa so much i stopped watching it, but thats beside the point). As i got into cosplay, ealier this year, I noticed an abundace of DN cosplayers and very few with the excepition or Ryuk cosplayers, most are indeed done very half a$sed...especially Misa!
Like you said when done right, the cosplays are rather impressive. Even though I abhore Misa, I can admit when someone has done a exceptional job creating her outfits and pull her off very well, but for some reason those cosplayers are scarce. I like hot topic and all, but a girl+ blonde hair+ HotTopic DOES NOT = Misa
just like a guy+ a white tee+ sweatpants+ candy DOES NOT = L

@Hedgehog
I don't think people are saying the cosplay itself is "easy", but the likeness/ identifiable traits of the character is rather easily obtained....well done or otherwise. Example if you walk around a con in a tan suit with a short hair cut, will people not think you're light? Or if you are yet again at a con in a white tee and jeans, huddled in a chair, wont you be precived as cosplaying L?

Kyomi
09-18-2009, 10:32 AM
D8 I would have bitch-slapped her. But then again I'm pretty tolerant of my weeaboo fangirl friend because she's just damn funny sometimes.

The worst part was that she turned to me twenty minutes after explaining to me why she would only take photos of male L and tell me I'd be able to pull off a good L as well.

But she's a close friend of mine, and so to me it wasn't as much surprising as it was odd that she'd say something like that.

Honey Vanity
09-21-2009, 10:06 AM
Daaang. What an interesting topic. I'm a recovering Jrock cosplay snob, so...about a year ago I would have said that they're all losers.

Nowadays, I don't have a bias against certain series or anything, just certain kinds of cosplayers--with one exception: Death Note. I'm biased against them.

I'm a DN cosplayer myself, and I hate the hundreds of people that show up dressed from this series that don't really try. I hate the Misas that make their boyfriend be Light. I hate the Lights that are like, "Light's just a teenage guy, I can wear whatever." I hate Ls that think jeans+white shirt+whatever dark hair you like = L.

I do L (sue me) and work hard to make my actual hair look like a real-life version of L's anime hair--without a scary wig or large amounts of hair product that make you look gunky. I have an olive-beige Italian skin tone and cover EVERY visible part of my skin with makeup to look pale. I give myself eye bags, not panda/bandit eye circles. I'm a girl, but my hair is short enough, and I eliminate all physical outward appearances of being female with binding.

So yeah, the sea of half-assed or badly done DN cosplayers that get people like me and my friend overlooked make me upset. "Girl Ls" that are just fangirls in L clothing bother me. Etc.

vampirate
09-21-2009, 11:22 AM
I'm very bored by them. I don't even find the designs that interesting and won't give any Death Note costume a second glance well done or not unless it's something like Evali's Misa/Rem costume. But I agree with everyone else that the ones that were obviously done because people thought they would be really easy to pull off by just going to Hot Topic or throwing on a white shirt but then not even having something like a correctly styled wig are extra sad and boring.

Mangochutney
09-21-2009, 12:40 PM
I don't particularly care about Death Note cosplay accuracy, since it has the same gradient of Give-A-Damn to Don't-Give-A-Damn as most sources.

However, the glut of L's last year, some of whom were simply wearing their normal clothes and hair-do's, made me realize something very important:

WE ARE ALL COSPLAYING L.

All of us. Every costume. Every day. All the time.

It's just a matter of accuracy, you see. If a young lady in jeans and a lolcat t-shirt with long brown hair can be L, then so can Gilgamesh. And Queen Elizabeth. And Naruto and Miku Hatsune and Pikachu and Indiana Jones. And me, sitting here in business casual. And you. And your mom.

IT'S ALL L, BITCHES

LIVE IT AND LOVE IT AND GO GET SOME CAKE

Thearah
09-21-2009, 12:42 PM
It's good to see that there are cosplayers that actually put thought and care into cosplaying Death Note characters. When done well, then I am very happy to see them, but I do not (and I don't mean to be redundant, but I am, aren't I?) like seeing people who obviously don't give a shit and just throw in whaatever they want. Not only is it stupid, but then is it really cosplay? Or are you just dressing like them?

Honey Vanity
09-21-2009, 12:54 PM
@Mangochutney: I...really don't think that was 100% necessary, but since the thread is asking for your thoughts, I can't really say anything against you.

@Thearah: Yes! That's it. 'Dressing up as' =/= cosplaying. Something a lot of people don't get.

UGH. It really hurts to put a lot of care and attention into something as simple as L and just be discouraged and put down all the time. I don't cosplay him because I'm a fangirl or because someone told me to or just because I can. I decided to do it because I knew I could--pretty well, too--and I was tired of seeing all the half-assery people throw at his character.

People like Mango make me never want to cosplay again sometimes (_ _ ). But I'm way too sensitive.

Mangochutney
09-21-2009, 01:04 PM
People like Mango make me never want to cosplay again sometimes (_ _ ). But I'm way too sensitive.

...wow.

For the record, yes, you're correct. If a comment by a stranger on an internet forum, a comment that isn't even directed at you, has that much power...it's vitally important for your quality of life that you learn to care much, much less.

Thearah
09-21-2009, 01:55 PM
Hey, hey, hey, let's all feel the love here and calm down!

@Honey; Don't let people discourage you for WHATEVER REASON! I was told by a couple of people that I wasn't 'toned' enough to play Seung Mi-Na (Personally, I hought I was fine. I mean, was thin enough, who cares about the muscle in the end), but I didn't listen and go on to do more skimpy outfits. Ha ha ha. Lol.

@Mango; I appreciate your impute. Lol. But calm down! Btw, your avi piv is freaking hysterical.

Tampopo_Hoshi
09-21-2009, 01:57 PM
I was at San Japan, and I only saw ONE Kira/Light. And I was there all three days.

If they enjoy the series, and enjoy cosplaying the characters, what's the big deal? No harm done there. But, even though I am a Death Note fan and have been a fan much before the anime even aired on Adult Swim, I am tired of seein Death Note cosplayers. It does seem like they are everywhere at time. And L seems to be the #1 lazy/I don't have any money for a cosplay/it's one day before the con and I have no cosplay character to cosplay.

Honey Vanity
09-21-2009, 02:00 PM
Eh, I can't help it. It's just who I am. Always has been. It wasn't YOUR comment specifically that makes me feel like that. It's just that hearing the same idea over and over again--that L's too overdone, everyone cosplays him, cosplaying him is lame, etc.--is kinda' discouraging. And eventually, one thinks "Why even bother? No one's going to like it or even care that you're doing it."

Besides all this, I can't add much to what's already been said on here :P. Seems people enjoy seeing well-done DN cosplayers, and the half-assed ones ruin it for everyone. That's close to about it.

So I'll try and stop spamming this poor person's thread now, sorry.

Mangochutney
09-21-2009, 02:01 PM
This IS calm. When I'm horked off, the bacon starts flying. :)

Incidentally, Thearah, you said something earlier that I wonder about:

is it really cosplay? Or are you just dressing like them?

I wonder if you could go into that in a little more detail. To me, the things you listed are the same thing: dressing as a character IS cosplay, full stop. I don't consider any particular degree of quality or in-character behavior to be necessary. Is this different for you?

Foos
09-21-2009, 02:04 PM
A few things on this:

1) Most attendees are casual cosplayers. They aren't interested in technical achievement, construction, details, spending money, etc. They just want to wander around weaboo cons sporting cat ears, white tees, jeans, whatever. If anything, they seem to have more fun and take themselves less seriously than those who spend eight months constructing a competition piece from an obscure series, just to stick up their nose at others.

2) Ten years ago I used to get annoyed at all the Neon Genesis Evangelion cosplay, the Gundam Wing cosplay and the Sailor Moon cosplay. The popularity of a series is proportionate to its popularity, helped along by how easy it is to rifle around in your closet for a matching outfit. I don't understand why anyone would allow themselves to get so wrapped up with hating on a popular series.

3) Nerds criticizing others nerds for not nerding out the way you'd like them to? Wow. Just wow.

Thearah
09-21-2009, 02:12 PM
@ Foos; Fisrt of, I don't hate Death Note-- It's just not my cup of tea. I respect it, but I don't 'enjoy' it. Second, I'm not critisizing how they nerd out, I am just saying that they should put more effort into it if they DO cosplay. That's all.

@ Mango; Lol. What I meant by this was thus: Dressing 'like' them was my comparison to a half-assed cosplay. You know, not going full out. I don't even know if that makes sense. It makes sense to ME, but I'm weird. I shall think a little more about how I can put this into different words.

Ashcatchthem
09-21-2009, 05:21 PM
i walked by 15 L's all at once at AX 08, not really an impressive cosplay to do, but ill give props to anyone who dresses up for a convention, plus i kinda like death note ( too much talking though)

Kitylin
09-21-2009, 05:27 PM
i walked by 15 L's all at once at AX 08, not really an impressive cosplay to do, but ill give props to anyone who dresses up for a convention, plus i kinda like death note ( too much talking though)

Ahhhh, that's the reason I never got into death note. I tried to read the first two volumes, and I just couldn't pay attention. XD

Duplica
09-21-2009, 05:57 PM
i like death note but yes i'm suck and tried of but doing L, Light and Misa without ever trying. then try the reason why i find some cosplay overwhemling is because here in the usa the make it to popluar and over cosplay i mean there are a lot of cosplay shows that go unnotice like rozen maiden.

FoxTrott
09-21-2009, 06:13 PM
I think that a lot of people like to cosplay Death Note because it's simple. You can go to the store and buy virtually everything you need to cosplay for the human characters, with no need to scour the web (or the local fabric store) for hard to get parts of costumes. It's a casual, inexpensive cosplay for casual people with either no sewing skills or a crying wallet.

Mi Feng
09-21-2009, 06:38 PM
Death Note is not my favorite anime but I don't hate it (The animation was beautiful) I'm ok with Death Note cosplayers ( I admit I was a Matt once) >.<
I must say some people go above and beyond and make simply gorgeous Death Note cosplays. Its downside, over done and lazily put together I recently went to a con and saw 13-14 L's with boobs... try a little harder. :/

Tampopo_Hoshi
09-21-2009, 07:26 PM
The funny thing is, there are so many simple cosplays out there. Death Note isn't the only series that has simple costumes. Any shojo anime pretty much have plain clothes characters. So why criticize Death Note cosplayers because of simplicity? Why not criticize people who cosplay Ed from Cowboy Bebop? Misty, Ash, and Brock from Pokemon? There're countless others. Not all characters wear complex clothing. Just because it's simple doesn't mean it sucks.

Kitsoru
09-21-2009, 07:39 PM
The funny thing is, there are so many simple cosplays out there. Death Note isn't the only series that has simple costumes. Any shojo anime pretty much have plain clothes characters. So why criticize Death Note cosplayers because of simplicity? Why not criticize people who cosplay Ed from Cowboy Bebop? Misty, Ash, and Brock from Pokemon? There're countless others. Not all characters wear complex clothing. Just because it's simple doesn't mean it sucks.

...You're clearly missing the point here, lol. Most of the people posting here aren't saying they're bad because they're simple, they're saying they're bad when lazy cosplayers just don't even try with their costumes, which are already sort of plain even compared to other 'popular' or plainclothes costumes like those you listed (let's see you go out and try to find one of Ash's vests already made in a mall chain store).

Which for the record, I am completely in agreement with.

vampirate
09-21-2009, 09:28 PM
Or to add to what Kitsoru said because you don't see umpteen gajillion of them.

EgnirysFaye
09-21-2009, 10:10 PM
I'm not a fan of Deathnote - but it doesn't make me like or hate a person, it's just an anime/manga, with fictional characters and plot.

But that being said, yeah, I admit, I had been a wee bit tired of VERY popular cosplays (DN included) but I just stop paying attention to it all and not let it be consuming. If I do see well done cosplays of any sort though, even if popular, then I'll ask for a picture regardless :)

But one thing does annoy me a tiny bit - I don't like it when people make lazier cosplays and still expect a ton of attention from people. If your goal is just to have some lighthearted fun without a care in the world, that is fine. But if you go half assed and still desire a thousand pics of you, comments or compliments from all over, then...well..you get my drift XD

I'm sure in a few years DN cosplayers will be way smaller in number, and eventually a new series will start to develope and become really rabid in the costume world. Somebody already said on this forum that there used to be alot of gundam Wing and Sailor Moon cosplays, right? But now today I very rarely see a GW cosplay in person -I've only ever seen one Duo Maxwell - and every so often I see some SM cosplays.

Nakochan
09-22-2009, 02:49 AM
I am a huge fan of Deathnote; but as someone said earlier, I think it's partly just fad. ^^ I think the other reason is that L and Kira are easier to find costumes for- I mean, L is just a white longsleeve and jeans. What matters to me is whether the cosplayer can exude that character personality or not. When I went to AX this year, there were so many L's around... but I honestly only saw one L that I wanted to take a picture of. She had the dark circles under her eyes, L's slouch, oversized shirt... everything!

(I actually saw more Naruto cosplayers. xD I got a bit more fed up of seeing them than Deathnote ones... especially since sometimes their outfit looked completely like felt. That couldn't have been comfortable, and certainly didn't look very good x_X)

Aya Brea X
09-22-2009, 11:54 PM
I "closet cosplay" as you guys call it, or just "dressing up" for the con. I'll buy pieces from stores and modify them to fit a cosplay. I simply do not have the skill or time (it's not any cheaper, peoples, espeically if you mess up a shirt and have to buy a new one!) to sew a white dress shirt or black pants when I can just buy it all off the rack. I enjoy dressing up, I lack costume making skills. I've even bought an entire pre-made costume once. I have no shame about it, and I don't think I need to.

That said, I do not enter competitions. I do, however, run around cons and cosplay gatherings wearing said costumes. It's a nice way to get to know people who also like the series, or just to feel cute and do something different from what you wear everyday.

I don't understand why some of you are upset when people who closet cosplay get attention from attendees at conventions or gatherings who happen to own cameras. Why do you need to feel validated from random photographers? Do you really care if they get their photo taken? And what are these heathen cosplayers supposed to say to the photographers? "Oh, GOD NO, you don't want a picture of me! Why, I purchased this white dress shirt from Mervyns and black skirt from Hot Topic and just sewed on the trim! Why don't to go hunt down the gal over there who has the hand embroidered costume, she is so much MORE worhty!" How silly would that sound? Half the people who have ever taken pictures of me (and not that many) didn't give half a crap what series I was cosplaying as, how much time or energy I put into making the costume, or what my sewing skills were like, but they were more interested in the length of my skirt. (Perverts for the win!)

It's not like people with cameras should really affect what you feel during conventions as long as they're not making fun of you. Maybe the chick with the camera is just a misogynistic 14 year old girl with a thing for L. Better still, maybe that bunch of guys surrounding the random Hot Topic Misa player are just HITTING ON HER. They're not appointed cosplaying judges. Human interaction happens. That does not mean you need to feel any unnecessary annoyance, really. Some of you take the costume making to a different level as these people (and me), and that's great! Why would you take something that's giving you so much joy (and empty bank accounts, bleeding fingers, panda eyes...) and self generate this negativity about it?

Let us not so skilled cosplayers (or "closet cosplayers") be. You'll be happier for it! When it really matters (like at competitions), THEN you should point out how they are less skilled and less worthy of award. Otherwise, we're just chillaxing at a convention, getting photographed by perverts :3

Kitsoru
09-23-2009, 12:14 AM
I don't understand why some of you are upset when people who closet cosplay get attention from attendees at conventions or gatherings who happen to own cameras. Why do you need to feel validated from random photographers? Do you really care if they get their photo taken? And what are these heathen cosplayers supposed to say to the photographers? "Oh, GOD NO, you don't want a picture of me! Why, I purchased this white dress shirt from Mervyns and black skirt from Hot Topic and just sewed on the trim! Why don't to go hunt down the gal over there who has the hand embroidered costume, she is so much MORE worhty!" How silly would that sound? Half the people who have ever taken pictures of me (and not that many) didn't give half a crap what series I was cosplaying as, how much time or energy I put into making the costume, or what my sewing skills were like, but they were more interested in the length of my skirt. (Perverts for the win!)
...
Let us not so skilled cosplayers (or "closet cosplayers") be. You'll be happier for it! When it really matters (like at competitions), THEN you should point out how they are less skilled and less worthy of award. Otherwise, we're just chillaxing at a convention, getting photographed by perverts :3

...lmao, I'm sorry, but I just had to say something to this hilariously hypocritical 'argument'. You go on about how cosplayers must want to feel validated by random photographers, yet then you talk about how much you love perverts taking pictures of your short skirt?

Who's looking for validation here?

Aya Brea X
09-23-2009, 12:20 AM
...lmao, I'm sorry, but I just had to say something to this hilariously hypocritical 'argument'. You go on about how cosplayers must want to feel validated by random photographers, yet then you talk about how much you love perverts taking pictures of your short skirt?

Who's looking for validation here?

I'm guessing you're refering to "Perverts for the win" or the ":3" after "getting photographed by perverts" to infer I enjoy being photographed by pervets whilst I wear a short skirt. To which I respond "Sarcasm for the win!" My point was exactly that getting photographed or not is not going to hurt my ego since they're taking the picture for THEIR OWN purpose, perverted or otherwise, and sometimes maybe I shouldn't want their attention, perverted or otherwise.

I am glad you found the post hilarious, hypocritical or otherwise.

Kitsoru
09-23-2009, 12:27 AM
I'm guessing you're refering to "Perverts for the win" or the ":3" after "getting photographed by perverts" to infer I enjoy being photographed by pervets whilst I wear a short skirt. To which I respond "Sarcasm for the win!" My point was exactly that getting photographed or not is not going to hurt my ego since they're taking the picture for THEIR OWN purpose, perverted or otherwise, and sometimes maybe I shouldn't want their attention, perverted or otherwise.

I am glad you found the post hilarious, hypocritical or otherwise.

You know, I really, really do hope you were honestly being sarcastic, because there are people out there that honestly go out and do lazy, skimpy cosplays just for the attention, and that is what I personally despise. =A=; That would be a huge relief.

I personally have no issue with closet cosplay; I've done it a few times before (I just haven't done any plainclothes costumes in a long time). I have an issue with lazy cosplayers that expect to be the belle of the ball.

jounink
09-23-2009, 12:51 AM
I'm not a fan of Deathnote - but it doesn't make me like or hate a person, it's just an anime/manga, with fictional characters and plot.

But that being said, yeah, I admit, I had been a wee bit tired of VERY popular cosplays (DN included) but I just stop paying attention to it all and not let it be consuming. If I do see well done cosplays of any sort though, even if popular, then I'll ask for a picture regardless :)

But one thing does annoy me a tiny bit - I don't like it when people make lazier cosplays and still expect a ton of attention from people. If your goal is just to have some lighthearted fun without a care in the world, that is fine. But if you go half assed and still desire a thousand pics of you, comments or compliments from all over, then...well..you get my drift XD

I'm sure in a few years DN cosplayers will be way smaller in number, and eventually a new series will start to develope and become really rabid in the costume world. Somebody already said on this forum that there used to be alot of gundam Wing and Sailor Moon cosplays, right? But now today I very rarely see a GW cosplay in person -I've only ever seen one Duo Maxwell - and every so often I see some SM cosplays.


I'm in complete accordance with everything yo just "said".

Foos
09-23-2009, 12:54 AM
This is a thread about not liking half-assed cosplay, with the flavor of the week (Deathnote) thrown into it. Every series out there has people who fanatically put together costumes with great detail and care, and also people who fish around in their closet to happily flounce down convention hallways. One could say they are lazy for not caring, but one could just as easily say hardcore cosplayers are elitist jerks who derive no joy from their craft and use it as an opportunity to look down on others.

This topic really irks me, because I haven't seen such a blatant "Let's dump on a group of people" thread in a long time. It's so...irrelevent to what we do as committed cosplayers. Some people do not have the mindset of "I'm gonna replicate this character to the best of my abilities." They just want to go and celebrate their fandom without a care in the world.

It feels like such a waste of time and energy to harp on the costume efforts of sixteen year olds who aren't trying to impress anyone.

Dragon
09-23-2009, 04:27 AM
*shrugs*
The DN hype is already over here and has returned back to Naruto, Bleach and D. Gray-man.

But what goes for me for all of them and all other cosplays: I don't mind most of them - even in larger numbers - if the wearer seems to enjoy it at heart and doesn't go like "Bwaaaaaah, noone checked that I'm L" or starts bitching at another one doing the same, or getting all sukly because someone DARED to do the same popular figure and even had the NERVE to do an better job...

What does it really matter, what one cosplays.

The only thing where the number really influences me, when it comes to taking pictures. I rarely take a snap of the same figure on the same day unless they come with cosplays I haven't seen yet or are a different version or made better.
Also in regards to DN specificly:
L in terms of clothes is a very simple matter. It doesn't matter to me if someone is wearing a bought T-Shirt or went through the efford of sewing it him/herself. The costume is to put in words: too simple. It will not be able to catch my eye - thus the chance of me wanting to take a pic is rather slim.
This doesn't only appeal to DN characters thought, but also to all characters that have simple designs. I like small detailings and patterns and stuff like that, thus 'bland' outfits just do not appearl to me most of the time.
It's just that simple.

Lucrezea
09-23-2009, 02:08 PM
I don't concern myself with fad costumes, or moreover, closet costumes.

I know a lot of people comment on the fact that the majority of Death Note (among every other anime-of-the-moment) cosplayers don't put a lot of effort into their costumes. Whether someone puts enough effort to your standards into a costume or not really shouldn't be relevant. These people just want to participate and have a good time, no different than the people that put countless hours and hundreds of dollars into their costumes.

Whether said individuals are just getting into cosplay and don't quite have the skills that it takes, or just take it casually, they cosplay because it's fun. They cosplay because they don't have to feel weird or awkward dressing up as their favourite characters. There's something to be said about going to an anime convention in costume versus going in regular clothing. If these people try their hardest and all they can produce is a piece of crap or pull something out of their closet because the excitment of dressing up was too much, I like to see it.

I like closet cosplays, crappy cosplays, professional cosplays... it makes me smile knowing that these people are doing it for the same reason I am.

That be said, it still would be nice to see all the L's, Misa's and Light's of the cosplay world put a little more effort into the hair. ;)

LiLKitteh
09-23-2009, 03:08 PM
Meh.

Thearah
09-23-2009, 04:25 PM
This is a thread about not liking half-assed cosplay, with the flavor of the week (Deathnote) thrown into it. Every series out there has people who fanatically put together costumes with great detail and care, and also people who fish around in their closet to happily flounce down convention hallways. One could say they are lazy for not caring, but one could just as easily say hardcore cosplayers are elitist jerks who derive no joy from their craft and use it as an opportunity to look down on others.

This topic really irks me, because I haven't seen such a blatant "Let's dump on a group of people" thread in a long time. It's so...irrelevent to what we do as committed cosplayers. Some people do not have the mindset of "I'm gonna replicate this character to the best of my abilities." They just want to go and celebrate their fandom without a care in the world.

It feels like such a waste of time and energy to harp on the costume efforts of sixteen year olds who aren't trying to impress anyone.



As I have said before, this isn't a 'dump on them thread'. I believe that I stated in the first post that I merely tired of seeing Death Note cosplayers everywhere. It was a personal opinion, and I was merely curious as to what everyone else thought about it.

We, pretty much most of us, agreed that it wasn't the amount of Death Note Cosplayers in the end, it was the amount of Death Note cosplayers that didn't seem to put much effort into their cosplays, i.e. 'closet cosplay'. I'm not speaking of buying things at the store and modifying them, because I do this myself. I meant merely pulling out a white shirt and jeans, putting them on and then calling yourself L.

That is what I'm tired of seeing. I have nothing against the people who do it, but it gets exhausting when I see one of them every second that I turn around.

I do not appreciate you trodding down on not jsut me, but every person in this thread for voicing their opinions. No one meant ill by it, it was merely a discussion, and you adament hate for it really irks me, not to mention offends me quite a bit.

We were merely having a healthy conversation about the subject, not riding on anyone or anyhting.

Cosplay_Rose
09-23-2009, 04:28 PM
I debated for a while whether or not to post and contribute to this mess...

I cosplayed L for the love of the character. I honestly put in effort, but lack of money prevented me from getting a wig. However, my hair was about the same length and I dyed it black. (In my pictures, which are terrible to begin with, it was purple and slightly curly, but I changed it before the actual debut.)
I cosplayed Misa WAY last-second, and yes, it was a closet cosplay and nowhere near accurate toward any of her shown outfits. I didn't expect to get attention or photographs, and I didn't. One person recognized who I was because I was with a Matt and L. I'm not particularly proud of the costume, but what's done is done.
I'm making a Mello cosplay to match my boyfriend's Matt, which I also made. I sewed the vest from scratch and payed attention to the quilted diamond pattern. Yes, I bought leggings to use as pants, but I payed attention to the crosses on his knees and the, erm, crotch detail, which is different colored fabric and what looks like shoe laces. I worked really hard on getting the scar right, and I'm trying my hardest to find a wig, but that always seems to be my main downfall in any cosplay.
I bought a vest to turn into a Matt vest for my boyfriend and then attached the fur myself. I've been after him to go get new pants so that I can sew in the ribbing. We can't afford boots for him. Period.

So while some of these turned out crappy, I honestly tried, and am still trying.

All of that being said, I find it quite rude to look down on people who do "half-assed" cosplay because you don't know why they did it or how even they themselves feel about it.

It's a completely different story if they go around claiming to be the best or enter a contest, or what have you. And telling their friends they think they're the best does not = claiming to be the best. I'm talking about going up to other cosplayers, pointing out their flaws, and creating a highly unnecessary fuss.

As for Death Note specifically, maybe I'm biased and have a soft spot for it, but I'm much more tired of seeing poorly-done Naruto cosplays. An orange shirt and eyeliner whiskers does not make you Naruto, sorry. I will not recognize you as such, and neither will most other people. And throwing a fit when someone calls you "orange shirt" is just.. There's no words for that, there really isn't. Yes, I get who you are, and I can still appreciate the display of love for the character.

I've developed a high tolerance for any popular series, Naruto included. I used to hate, hate, HATE Naruto until people started hating Death Note. Got a taste of my own medicine I suppose. As said before, I dislike bad attitudes more than bad cosplays.

xaktsuki
09-23-2009, 05:24 PM
I do feel really irritated when I see no effort put into it at all [which I see A LOT of cruddy L's and Lights]. But I do feel rather impressed when I see a cosplay where I notice they did put time and effort into, which I've seen quite a few of. I'll admit, I saw a fantastic L at a previous con. She had the most amazing wig, her pants and shirt were flawless, and so I was impressed with her.

hatchii
09-23-2009, 06:40 PM
Death note is definitely overdone, but what isn't nowadays? : )
Whatever floats their boats!

DespairedPheonix
09-23-2009, 06:41 PM
I don't MIND DeathNote cosplayers so long as they do it right. For instance, I really can't stand it when I see a girl dressed up in loli saying that she's Misa-Misa simply cuz she has a deathnote. I also can't stand it when they don't try. I hate it when I see someone trying to be L and all it looks like is they had nothing to wear so they pulled something together from their closet. But this goes for any cosplay, really...


All in the same though, I have seen some AMAZING deathnote cosplays. I agree that their numbers are at large, then again so is Naruto. Like Sailor Moon, Gundam, Kingdom Hearts and other popular shows/games and cosplays of the past, I believe it will die down eventually.

Tampopo_Hoshi
09-23-2009, 07:13 PM
Some cosplayers honestly need to get their head out of their ass. Everyone approached cosplay with different degrees of severity. So what if a Death Note cosplayer didn't put a lot of effort in to their costume? Some people do it just for the heck of it. Who are you to look down on them? I thought cosplay was for fun. Just because a cosplay isn't "OMG amazing", there's no point in criticizing people for it.

Cora
09-23-2009, 07:17 PM
Admittedly, I'm not a huge fan of Death Note in general, but the simplicity and 'wearable' aspects of most character designs make it easy for people who might want to try cosplay but don't know how to sew, or don't have a whole lot of money. Everyone has to start somewhere.

I guess I'm over it, really.

audrey12345
09-23-2009, 09:20 PM
I absolutely love Death Note and have done Death Note cosplays, but it's not my only costume and I have several other costumes that are more elaborate and from less popular series. I agree it can be a bit annoying to see a ton of Ls and Lights around, but there's the possibility that mayyybeeee they didn't have the time/ability/skill/whatever to make or buy an elaborate awesome costume, but they wanted to cosplay and liked the character, and so they did that costume. I won't be bringing back my Mello costume to another con, just because I personall don't want to be another Death Note person (although, I am rather fond of my Mello costume. I had fun with the scar, and he's my favorite character) but I have no problem with Death Note cosplayers.

ShinobiXikyu
09-23-2009, 09:21 PM
Some cosplayers honestly need to get their head out of their ass. Everyone approached cosplay with different degrees of severity. So what if a Death Note cosplayer didn't put a lot of effort in to their costume? Some people do it just for the heck of it. Who are you to look down on them? I thought cosplay was for fun. Just because a cosplay isn't "OMG amazing", there's no point in criticizing people for it.

QFT. I've been waiting to hear this for a while.....as of late there seems to be a LOT of elitism/snobbery on the forums around here.

Honey Vanity
09-23-2009, 10:10 PM
Some cosplayers honestly need to get their head out of their ass. Everyone approached cosplay with different degrees of severity. So what if a Death Note cosplayer didn't put a lot of effort in to their costume? Some people do it just for the heck of it. Who are you to look down on them? I thought cosplay was for fun. Just because a cosplay isn't "OMG amazing", there's no point in criticizing people for it.

I do agree, and I've never openly criticized a fellow cosplayer for not putting 110% into what they're doing. But at the same time, I can't help but have a problem with someone who sets out to do something as SIMPLE as most of the Death Note cosplays and still manages to half-ass it. Seriously. And I have an example:

If you have long sandy blond hair (no wig/makeup) and show up to a con in a white T and jeans "just for the heck of it" (which I HAVE seen), don't expect *anyone* to know that you're even "dressing up"--let alone who you're trying to be. If you're having fun, that's great. Just don't be offended if someone has a problem with your absolute inability to acknowledge a detail as significant as the man's hair. Because if you looked in the mirror that morning and honestly thought that you looked a speck like L, then we have some serious problems. </end rant>. Sorry, but I had to get that out.

Foos
09-24-2009, 12:25 AM
I do not appreciate you trodding down on not jsut me, but every person in this thread for voicing their opinions. No one meant ill by it, it was merely a discussion, and you adament hate for it really irks me, not to mention offends me quite a bit.

Take it easy, kiddo. This is just text. You can't really have much of a discussion when everyone is just agreeing with you, can ya? I stand by what I said before, and when you've been in the cosplay scene a little longer, I imagine you'll stop worrying about what other people do.

Deathnote cosplayers are an easy target. Too easy. So easy that it feels like the arguements boil down to simply resenting the attention Deathnote cosplayers get. That's why I'm all up in ur thread, offendin ur readerz. I'd recommend you hit me up via PM or something in the future, not that verbal spars with each jab twelve hours apart aren't awesome.

Cosplay_Rose
09-24-2009, 01:49 AM
Some cosplayers honestly need to get their head out of their ass. Everyone approached cosplay with different degrees of severity. So what if a Death Note cosplayer didn't put a lot of effort in to their costume? Some people do it just for the heck of it. Who are you to look down on them? I thought cosplay was for fun. Just because a cosplay isn't "OMG amazing", there's no point in criticizing people for it.

THIS times a million.


I've decided to restate the point of my last post as well.
A bad attitude is worse than a bad cosplay.

Thearah
09-24-2009, 07:08 AM
Take it easy, kiddo. This is just text. You can't really have much of a discussion when everyone is just agreeing with you, can ya? I stand by what I said before, and when you've been in the cosplay scene a little longer, I imagine you'll stop worrying about what other people do.

Deathnote cosplayers are an easy target. Too easy. So easy that it feels like the arguements boil down to simply resenting the attention Deathnote cosplayers get. That's why I'm all up in ur thread, offendin ur readerz. I'd recommend you hit me up via PM or something in the future, not that verbal spars with each jab twelve hours apart aren't awesome.

I apoligize for being a little up in your face. I did not intend for the thread to turn out this way, but it did. Regardless of whether or not people are agreeing doesn't mean that you still can't have a discussion about it. That just means that someone who has something else to say hasn't come along yet.

^_^

lawliet.
09-24-2009, 08:59 AM
It really does apply to any series that has a very large fanbase. You are going to have good cosplays with tons of detail and effort that is very apparent, and you are going to have less-detailed cosplays in which the effort isn't as apparent.
I've thought about this a little more in depth lately, and this is what I think:
As long as you feel comfortable in your own cosplay, then it is what it is. A large amount of cosplayers for one particular series is bound to have ranging levels of effort put into them. Some people that cosplay aren't as hell-bent on having the perfect look. Personally, I'm nitpicky about the ones that I do, and I try to make it as accurate as possible, but this of course does not apply to every cosplayer in the world.
That being said, the only thing that I've found that really annoys me is being lumped with the group of people that don't put effort into DN cosplay. I'm not saying that anyone in this thread accused that, because they didn't, but it starts to wear on you when you hear things such as, "Oh, she's a Death Note cosplayer, she's only doing it because it's easy."
THAT'S what annoys me. (Once again, I am not implying that anyone in this thread said that. People in real life, however? Different story.)
Referring to what I said in earlier posts here, there are TONS of Death Note cosplayers. That's a blatant fact. And I know that I put a lot of work into my own cosplays, and that's fine by me. :D

Etoile-sama
09-24-2009, 09:48 AM
The last few conventions I've been too haven't seemed too plagued by Death Note cosplayers, which makes me think maybe the fad is on its way out. However... my issue is more in the realm of competitive cosplay. I love seeing what people put together for craftsmanship judging. People make 10' tall mecha, dresses that defy gravity (like anything CLAMP), and props that probably cost more to make than some of my entire costumes. What irks me is going to a cosplay competition and seeing a pair of Death Note cosplayers win fro craftsmanship, when I can't honestly say that the costumes look very difficult or intricate. There were so many amazing costumes, and to see the award go to something that looks like a closet cosplay, I was a little peeved.

In normal convention setting? I have no problem with Death Note cosplayers. They're having fun. So am I. No harm done. But when closet costumes win craftsmanship awards, I get irked. I would feel the same way about a "Bella Swan" cosplay winning a craftsmanship award. These things are street clothes, and half the time you can't actually tell that it's supposed to be a costume, unless the person wearing it makes a point to be in character.

Pocketfightr
09-24-2009, 10:33 AM
I personally have no problem with Death Note cosplayers, but the costumes are so simple and overdone that I have no interest in taking their picture and sometimes even miss the fact that they ARE in fact cosplaying. I had a friend's brother run around with a camera at one of the local cons (he takes pictures of EVERYTHING cosplayers, random people, empty con rooms...) and it took a good minute to realize one of the pictures I was looking at was an L & Light duo and not just another picture of random people. I first realized the one was Light, which was a little less obvious since he was standing behind what I eventually figured to be L. She was lacking the hair and obvious bags under the eyes... even her pose seemed off. It just seemed a shame since the Light appeared to be pretty decent, from what I could tell.

Quite a few years ago I thought about cosplaying female Maze from the series Maze. (I don't think it ever came over here, but I could be wrong...) Anywho, the character wears jeans and a white button up shirt with long black hair. I knew no one would know the series and it would probably seem like I wasn't cosplaying so I passed on it pretty quick. Last con, me and a friend jokingly suggested running an experiment and cosplaying as Maze just to see if I got mistaken for a really bad L. It would have been amusing to see if any Death Note groups fell for it and then I'd have the fun of explaining it was from a much older series.

Long story short, it's not my cup of tea... but if they have fun, good for them.

Tampopo_Hoshi
09-24-2009, 09:28 PM
The last few conventions I've been too haven't seemed too plagued by Death Note cosplayers, which makes me think maybe the fad is on its way out. However... my issue is more in the realm of competitive cosplay. I love seeing what people put together for craftsmanship judging. People make 10' tall mecha, dresses that defy gravity (like anything CLAMP), and props that probably cost more to make than some of my entire costumes. What irks me is going to a cosplay competition and seeing a pair of Death Note cosplayers win fro craftsmanship, when I can't honestly say that the costumes look very difficult or intricate. There were so many amazing costumes, and to see the award go to something that looks like a closet cosplay, I was a little peeved.

In normal convention setting? I have no problem with Death Note cosplayers. They're having fun. So am I. No harm done. But when closet costumes win craftsmanship awards, I get irked. I would feel the same way about a "Bella Swan" cosplay winning a craftsmanship award. These things are street clothes, and half the time you can't actually tell that it's supposed to be a costume, unless the person wearing it makes a point to be in character.

That's not the cosplayers' fault, it is the fault of poor judges/judging. Take it up with whoever judged the costume contest, not the cosplayers who won.

Etoile-sama
09-24-2009, 11:37 PM
And if given the opportunity, I will. However, isn't it the responsibility of a cosplayer to refrain from entering a costume competition if they haven't actually made their costume? I was sitting next to a cosplayer who told me that he had bought his entire costume. I sincerely hope he wasn't being judged for craftsmanship.

SanaK
09-25-2009, 12:54 AM
That's why I'm all up in ur thread, offendin ur readerz.

You have done it for the lulz. I commend you thus.

lawliet:

I see what you've said there.

I think that this whole thing is an arching concept, that applies not only to this series, this situation, but many others as well. I will go as far as to say that a better question would be, "What do you think of poorly done costumes?" because in every series that is cosplayed, there is always going to be something that seems "poorly" done. You will always have varying degrees of costume intricacy and skill level within different groups of cosplayers, and I believe that any cosplayer that puts forth a sincere effort on their part should be commended for the quality and nature of their costume, regardless of the series, be it mainstream or obscure.. (although of course, those things are important in their own way). Cosplay will always be, generally, a hobby. While it's great to put forth your best effort in it, unfortunately, elitism arises within people without them even realizing it. That's fine and dandy too, alright? However, I think all would be just as well (and a lot more simple) if we just kept an open mind, and accepted our fellow cosplayers regardless of any of this. But the majority of you seem to have this opinion, so that's great, anyway. We are all in this, at the very least, to have some fun, right? Elitism causes drama, which is the one thing we're seeking to escape from when we attend conventions.. So lets all relax. Like Rilakkuma.

By the way, I'm a Death Note cosplayer. lulz

lawliet.
09-25-2009, 08:47 AM
^ Definitely agree! I was worried that I didn't get my point across right, so thankies. :D

Obito Tobi
09-25-2009, 08:58 AM
Not gunna lie, but there are some really cool deathnote cosplays.. But then you go down the line and you see a black cardboard box costume that says, "Death Note"... That ruins it for me.

Walter NHO
09-25-2009, 10:38 AM
Yea, their are quite a few Death Note cosplayers I admit. I remember once I thought about cosplaying as "L". The thing was I went to a different convention before I made up my mind and saw their were ALOT of Death Note cosplayers. So I went against it. So I do think their are too many, but like most of everyone else, I do enjoy seeing good ones, especially those that sometimes add their own little touch.

Tampopo_Hoshi
09-25-2009, 10:58 AM
And if given the opportunity, I will. However, isn't it the responsibility of a cosplayer to refrain from entering a costume competition if they haven't actually made their costume? I was sitting next to a cosplayer who told me that he had bought his entire costume. I sincerely hope he wasn't being judged for craftsmanship.

That's what pre-judging is for. If he was allowed to do a walk on after the judges saw his costume, then that con needs to find some better judges.

Thearah
09-25-2009, 12:49 PM
You have done it for the lulz. I commend you thus.

lawliet:

I see what you've said there.

I think that this whole thing is an arching concept, that applies not only to this series, this situation, but many others as well. I will go as far as to say that a better question would be, "What do you think of poorly done costumes?" because in every series that is cosplayed, there is always going to be something that seems "poorly" done. You will always have varying degrees of costume intricacy and skill level within different groups of cosplayers, and I believe that any cosplayer that puts forth a sincere effort on their part should be commended for the quality and nature of their costume, regardless of the series, be it mainstream or obscure.. (although of course, those things are important in their own way). Cosplay will always be, generally, a hobby. While it's great to put forth your best effort in it, unfortunately, elitism arises within people without them even realizing it. That's fine and dandy too, alright? However, I think all would be just as well (and a lot more simple) if we just kept an open mind, and accepted our fellow cosplayers regardless of any of this. But the majority of you seem to have this opinion, so that's great, anyway. We are all in this, at the very least, to have some fun, right? Elitism causes drama, which is the one thing we're seeking to escape from when we attend conventions.. So lets all relax. Like Rilakkuma.

By the way, I'm a Death Note cosplayer. lulz

You my dear, I love. I prolly should make a new thread. When I made this, porrly made cosplay was not the focus, but everyone seems to agree that it's not really Death Note, just the lack of effort. This has made me re-think my tpoic. Lol. Thank you for putting this. ^_^

Kiichigo
09-25-2009, 01:29 PM
My thoughts when I watched Death Note:

"This show rocks. Too bad that they're all wearing normal clothes so that you can't cosplay them."

I just feel that DN is such an amazing series that the cosplays deserve more work

Princess♥Aimee
09-25-2009, 06:54 PM
Although my first costume was a closet cosplay, I appreciate people doing it right and putting work into it. For example, you really can't put together a closet Mello... it just... can't happen XD L, on the other hand.... is a closet cosplay, I guess XD

Braithcakes
09-25-2009, 09:01 PM
it's dying down a bit, but all I ever see now are L's >_> and it's usually when someone just can't bother to work on a cosplay ahead of time so they just throw on a white shirt and pants and mess up their hair.

._. I was never with the first rush of kingdom hearts characters, I'm actually working on my zexion cosplay because I'm a huge fan =]

buuuuuutt yes :B I understand how you feel, I don't hate them...but I don't even give them a second look unless it's one of the shinigami.

MissJava
09-26-2009, 01:00 AM
Personally, I see most people cosplaying L or Light because it's easy, cheap, and well known to where you can get attention.

I love the series, and if someone else who loves it cosplays them, that's perfectly fine, but if it's for the above reasons, then no, just no.

Last year I saw a light who stayed in character the ENTIRE time. When I walked up to him, he just looked at me darkly and opened his notebook that said 'I AM KIRA' written all messily and whatnot. I loved that guy and remember him well. :3

KawaiiWaffles
09-26-2009, 01:44 AM
I'm going as Misa because she is my favorite character, you can go crazy with the costume, and I already look just like her and act just like her (not on purpose, we just have the same personality)

Eyeofgod
09-26-2009, 12:53 PM
To be honest, cosplaying deathnote has become overated pretty fast. Sadly, most deathnote cosplayers, not all, but a good amount have pretty much given up on doing a good cosplay of deathnote anymore.

L: Most times, I see a L with no wig on or even long hair. They won't be in character at all and don't even try even when asked

Light: For light, I do see people try and be close to him, but I am starting to see people get lazy with him as well. Not having his shirt tucked in or not having a wig or even hair close enough to be light. Hell, I have even seen a light or two with different color ties when mainly he only weras a red one.

Misa: Well, Misas are much like Ls, they are easy to come by and it doesn't make much to try and be her. Although, they wear more clothes and of course, are girls, misas have to at least TRY to look fair. Have no real complaints about misa other then people need to pick other animes to cosplay other then the same ones :/

Others from the anime: characters like matt and etc I rarely get to see anymore and when I do, they actually care for who they are dressing up like and do their best to be in character. Since they are not the main characters, they have to really try and be noticed, even thouh there are MANY fangirls that like these guys.

shi-gui
09-26-2009, 04:34 PM
I can't help but agree with everyone here. I just finished up AWA cosplaying as (one of many) L. Over the course of the weekend I ran into many other L's. Some who really did put some effort into the costume and character, and others who outright admited that they "grabbed some stuff before leaving home."
I got complimented more than once as L, and that was a big thing for me considering there were so damn many at AWA last weekend. I also saw some people who put me to shame in terms of depth (though that only inspired me more to perfect it as the weekend went along), one in particular was a female who was amazing, right down to the way the sleeves fell on her arms when she held up her hands (I could never get mine loose enough).

I will share this though, if it adds to the original discussion of "thoughts on Death Note cosplayers?" And that is, Friday after arriving at AWA I was one of maybe three people already at the con cosplaying as L (most did not pop up until Saturday), and a random teenage girl heading for the registration line tried to clock me in the face on my way to the restroom. O_O
Apparently some people feel very strongly AGAINST either L, or Death Note Cosplay. I didn't stop to ask her. >.>

MemoryOfAlessa
09-26-2009, 06:04 PM
To be honest, cosplaying deathnote has become overated pretty fast. Sadly, most deathnote cosplayers, not all, but a good amount have pretty much given up on doing a good cosplay of deathnote anymore.

THIS. My only real pet-peeve are the Misa's with no blonde wigs and store-bought items from Hot Topic. I understand those people may be low on cash and all that, I understand, but it just ticks me off a little.

Thearah
09-26-2009, 06:07 PM
I can't help but agree with everyone here. I just finished up AWA cosplaying as (one of many) L. Over the course of the weekend I ran into many other L's. Some who really did put some effort into the costume and character, and others who outright admited that they "grabbed some stuff before leaving home."
I got complimented more than once as L, and that was a big thing for me considering there were so damn many at AWA last weekend. I also saw some people who put me to shame in terms of depth (though that only inspired me more to perfect it as the weekend went along), one in particular was a female who was amazing, right down to the way the sleeves fell on her arms when she held up her hands (I could never get mine loose enough).

I will share this though, if it adds to the original discussion of "thoughts on Death Note cosplayers?" And that is, Friday after arriving at AWA I was one of maybe three people already at the con cosplaying as L (most did not pop up until Saturday), and a random teenage girl heading for the registration line tried to clock me in the face on my way to the restroom. O_O
Apparently some people feel very strongly AGAINST either L, or Death Note Cosplay. I didn't stop to ask her. >.>

That's horrible! I can't belive someone did that to you... =.= I have no respect for people who act like that.

Kitsoru
09-26-2009, 06:34 PM
I will share this though, if it adds to the original discussion of "thoughts on Death Note cosplayers?" And that is, Friday after arriving at AWA I was one of maybe three people already at the con cosplaying as L (most did not pop up until Saturday), and a random teenage girl heading for the registration line tried to clock me in the face on my way to the restroom. O_O
Apparently some people feel very strongly AGAINST either L, or Death Note Cosplay. I didn't stop to ask her. >.>

O_o I'm gonna guess she wasn't trying to make a really poorly chosen reference to when Light punches L in the face?

shi-gui
09-26-2009, 06:45 PM
O_o I'm gonna guess she wasn't trying to make a really poorly chosen reference to when Light punches L in the face?

... you know I hadn't actually thought of that. lmao.
I suppose there's the slim chance it was, but the look in her eyes as she was raising and balling her fist, she was doing a very convincing poorly chosen reference. It actually caused me to go deer-in-headlights and drop character for a second. Fortunately a men's room stall was a good place to shake it off.

LxExplosionx93
09-26-2009, 09:40 PM
They are a bit overwhelming in numbers, but I think that if a person puts effort into the costume, then they have the potential to be a really nice yet simple costume. I know some people are just starting out cosplaying, including me, and Death Note is often times an easy option. But if you think, "OKAY I GOT JEANS AND A WHITE SHIRT I'M L LOL!!11!1!1" people are going to be able to tell.

mokulen22
09-27-2009, 08:24 AM
I did Light before the anime series came about. I had read the manga online scanslated and was super excited when they started to bring the manga series over here. People would actually know who I was cosplaying. :)

The year I did it (2005..i think) there weren't many Ls or Lights or misas, though I did get quite a few people who knew who I was. But what a difference an anime series can do...damn! The year the anime came out the cosplayer dressed as misa, L and Light was mind blowing! And everyone knew who they were.

I don't know if I have a point here...just what was on my mind when I read the title to this thread.

Hakaider
09-27-2009, 09:52 AM
and a random teenage girl heading for the registration line tried to clock me in the face on my way to the restroom. O_O
Apparently some people feel very strongly AGAINST either L, or Death Note Cosplay. I didn't stop to ask her. >.>

You should try to call security right away the next time someone tries to do that. What she did is a crime, and that would be considered an "assault". (Had she connected with her fist, it would have been "battery".)

Disliking a character or a show is not a good reason to resort to violence toward a cosplayer.

TheSilentOne
09-27-2009, 10:48 PM
Personally, I think there's WAY too many of them. I mean one reason some people cosplay is to be different from everyone else. It doesn't work if there's an army of L's running around a con.

Cosplay_Rose
09-27-2009, 11:06 PM
Personally, I think there's WAY too many of them. I mean one reason some people cosplay is to be different from everyone else. It doesn't work if there's an army of L's running around a con.

If people cosplay to be different, they are going to be sorely disappointed. No matter how original you think your character choice is, there is bound to be at least 10 other people in your region with the same choice. And one of them will do it better.

Cilicia
09-28-2009, 05:51 AM
I love Death Note cosplayers, good and bad! I just love Death Note in general. xD The more, the better. Unfortunately I think the fad is dying down a little, right? ): I plan on doing a Misa someday, but it won't be a closet cosplay or anything.

Hikari_chan56
09-28-2009, 09:21 AM
Cosplaying from Death Note isn't a bad thing, per se...it's just the fact that a lot of people won't put any effort in their costumes at all. Misa's will wear random clothes from Hot Topic. First off, that's not really Misa herself. If you're going to cosplay as her, please do an official outfit. And a lot of L's won't even wear wigs...Girls will just throw their hair in ponytails and guys won't wash their hair to make it look messy. And then they throw on eyeliner. And wear jeans with stains and holes in them. And dirty white shirts...and and and....

Well, I love Death Note. And I love Death Note cosplayers when they try. If they actually "cosplay" and not just throw something together, I never get tired of seeing them :)

VendettaCode
10-22-2009, 07:29 PM
Cosplaying from Death Note isn't a bad thing, per se...it's just the fact that a lot of people won't put any effort in their costumes at all. Misa's will wear random clothes from Hot Topic. First off, that's not really Misa herself. If you're going to cosplay as her, please do an official outfit. And a lot of L's won't even wear wigs...Girls will just throw their hair in ponytails and guys won't wash their hair to make it look messy. And then they throw on eyeliner. And wear jeans with stains and holes in them. And dirty white shirts...and and and....

Well, I love Death Note. And I love Death Note cosplayers when they try. If they actually "cosplay" and not just throw something together, I never get tired of seeing them :)

Agreed. I love DN cosplayers; I am one. XD But when you don't put any effort into it... -sigh- I put a LOT of thought into my cosplays, even the simple ones, like L. It's more than the white shirt and jeans. (I don't wear a wig for L, though. My hair's black naturally, and I got it cut just right, though it took a little while to get it to work like I wanted. XD I'm not necessarily against not having wigs, but it would do to have at least the general look. ^^ Perhaps I'm too critical.)

whitebeast
10-22-2009, 08:22 PM
Trends are like that.

However I tend to see mostly closet cosplay DN characters so it makes me sad. Not that I'm sourgraping but these girls tend to be quite good looking too but their costumes are crap. They can project but it's so obvious they just put together something from their closet with not much effort. As so far as I'm concerned, I only know one Misa cosplay from my place who tried to make an effort. She's not so popular since she's not that of a looker. xD BUT SHE TRIED. O_O Most of the Misas here don't even wear a wig. She tried!

A little more effort wouldn't hurt you know?

But there's not much DN cosplayers from where I'm at.

There used to be a lot. D;

avskull
10-23-2009, 07:56 AM
at one point i was thinking of doing as many closet cosplays as i could do. costume playing is about playing around and sure you can rate someone by costume construction skills but in the end its just playing. if you dont like a fad then dont pay attention to it and just do your own thing. i like death notes ^_^

ShirokiYuutsu
10-24-2009, 12:40 AM
Well, for this Halloween, I'm going to try to cosplay as L. This will be my first cosplay, and, in all honesty, I'm not ashamed at all. After watching Death Note (or at least part of it; I need to finish it, haha), I began to love L's character. That's why I want to cosplay as him. I already bought a majority of the necessary materials - that is, a white shirt, male jeans, got2b glued freeze spray, binding materials and the makeup. All I have to do now is get the wig.

I... guess it's what you guys would consider a "closet cosplay", but I'd really not think of it as such. After searching several shops for hours on end, I was able to get the materials listed above for roughly $80. Err... alright, I know a lot of you will probably jump me and say, "no noob, that's not right! it's actually this!" and whatnot, but...

Well, before I decided that I wanted to actually cosplay for Halloween, I was in the process of planning my cosplays for AX 2010. As I have no sewing experience whatsoever and no one in my family knows how to sew, I thought I'd just hunt down some fabrics and use someone else's sewing machine. After all the calculations were done, I found out that, should I make the cosplays, the total would add up to around $70~90, including the wig. I have access to Los Angeles' downtown fashion/fabric/whatever it's called district, so if I looked hard enough, I could probably find fabric that's around $3~5 a foot (because my friend bought it for roughly that much).

Well, I guess what I wanted to say (but couldn't until now, 'cause I'm pretty wordy) was that the price of the cosplay, or (I'm taking such a huge risk saying this, haha) even the large amount of time spent making it doesn't make it a good cosplay. Because... well... I'm sorry guys, but I refuse to learn how to sew so that I could sew a white shirt and jeans, when they're readily available to me for $20 or something at a nearby Old Navy.

...Besides, I really, really don't think L is easy. ._.; I know nothing about makeup, and pretty much had to have a friend tell me which eyeshadow and eyeliner to buy because I couldn't tell which ones were good and which ones were bad. I'm actually still a little screwed right now, because I don't know how to put on makeup at all. However, I'm in the process of trial and error. I'm going to keep putting on makeup, erasing it, and repeating the process until I can get that sleep-deprived look just right. Once I get my wig, I'm going to style it, wash it, and then style it again, until it's as perfect as it can be. (Let it be known that I haven't even touched a wig before...)

I think I'd be pretty disappointed if someone looked at me after all that and said, "she sucks, because there are 999999999 other L's running around, and I can tell she bought her clothes from H&M/Old Navy/etc.". So... erm... let's try to limit the amount of hate-concealed-as-criticism flying around everywhere. >< There might be newbies like me who don't know what the heck 'matte eyeshadow' is. (I... still don't know what it is, LOL)

SORRY FOR THE LONG POST.

>zeta<
10-24-2009, 01:32 AM
im just tired of seeing girls not putting any effort in misa cosplay D:

ToroSonyCat
10-26-2009, 10:03 AM
When you cosplay, you cosplay because you love the character/series.
Thats why i cosplay anyway. As a big fan of death note, i hope to cosplay death note sometime.
Death note cosplay is like all the other cosplay, people having fun showing appriciation for their favourite characters and dressing up. So what if the outfits are a little more 'casual'? Thats the beauty of the show! Its a realistic show with a bit of fantasy thrown in.

Please, no more hating on death note cosplayers.
As long as they put effort into their cosplay then they deserve respect.

ToroSonyCat
10-26-2009, 10:08 AM
THIS. My only real pet-peeve are the Misa's with no blonde wigs and store-bought items from Hot Topic. I understand those people may be low on cash and all that, I understand, but it just ticks me off a little.

they dont allways have to have blonde wigs.
what if they are cosplaying the movie version of misa who has brown hair?
i know when i cosplay misa, i plan to cosplay the movie version of misa.
i like the movie version of misa better. shes the same person of course, but i think shes a little different in the movie.

Chergnomebyl
10-26-2009, 11:41 AM
I am also sick of the Misa cosplays around and pretty much EVERYONE is cosplaying L. I know it's an easy costume, but still.

DatSephirothDude
10-26-2009, 02:12 PM
My L cosplay actualy cost more than a pre-made Organization XIII cloak I bought a while back. The wig alone costed me about $60, I had to buy jeans with the right shade of blue, white long sleeve shirt (I had a few, some were too big/too small/too dirty), eyeliner, eyeshadow, foundation to make my skin paler, handcuffs to be attached to a Light..though we had to remove it and a small bag of candy (Which was free, because Halloween was the day before :D)

I decided to do L because I only had about a month to decide on a cosplay. Getting *Insert character name here* commissioned would have taken up more time and money. I'd understand why some L's/Misa's/Light's don't buy wigs....they do get expensive. I also noticed a lot of DN cosplayers are in their teens, in which most probably don't have a job to pay for wigs..better yet an expensive cosplay.

All in all, for a simple closet cosplay..it COULD get somewhat expensive depending how accurate one wants to be. And we do this for the fun of it :)

Saki Ree
10-26-2009, 02:37 PM
I, personally, think that Death Note cosplays would be easy to pull off for newbies/beginners. I mean, think about it: If you're L or Light, you really just need to buy the outfit. Same for Misa, if you know where to look. And you don't need to really do much for it, so it'd be really easy to pull off for beginners, and it's easy to make the cosplay look nice due to the lack of detail.
I was Misa at my first convention. :3 Everyone loved it. Lol.

Honey Vanity
10-26-2009, 08:49 PM
I, personally, think that Death Note cosplays would be easy to pull off for newbies/beginners. I mean, think about it: If you're L or Light, you really just need to buy the outfit. Same for Misa, if you know where to look. And you don't need to really do much for it, so it'd be really easy to pull off for beginners, and it's easy to make the cosplay look nice due to the lack of detail.
I was Misa at my first convention. :3 Everyone loved it. Lol.

We just decided a few pages back that buying the outfit and putting it on =/= cosplay D:. Or at the very least, it doesn't equal a good attempt at cosplay.

As for lack of detail...there's a TON of detail in L and Misa's hair and makeup schemes. And on some of Misa's outfits there's a lot of accessory detail.

I don't mean to be picky or bitchy, but it's the whole "this is an easy noob cosplay that requires no planning" attitude that gives DN cosplayers a bad rep.

Tampopo_Hoshi
10-26-2009, 09:21 PM
We just decided a few pages back that buying the outfit and putting it on =/= cosplay D:. Or at the very least, it doesn't equal a good attempt at cosplay.

As for lack of detail...there's a TON of detail in L and Misa's hair and makeup schemes. And on some of Misa's outfits there's a lot of accessory detail.

I don't mean to be picky or bitchy, but it's the whole "this is an easy noob cosplay that requires no planning" attitude that gives DN cosplayers a bad rep.

Yes, that does make a cosplay. Some articles of clothing for a cosplay can be easily bought and would be a waste of time to make. And of course, there is the obligatory putting it on, as in wearing said article of clothing. I don't know who this "we" you are speaking of.

Roka
10-27-2009, 02:03 AM
I used to be a fan myself, but once an anime hits a certain amount of popularity I start to feel quite uncreative and regret doing it I guess..I cosplayed someone a few years ago..it's long retired lol;;

I think people cosplay it..not just the story..but a lot, if not most of the characters wear normal clothes (at least none any normal person would stare at with a funny look)

I won't be hatin'...cept really..The only thing I have a problem with..is the 10 second L cosplays..
It isn't very flattering on many people D:

Cogetas
10-27-2009, 02:33 PM
We just decided a few pages back that buying the outfit and putting it on =/= cosplay D:. Or at the very least, it doesn't equal a good attempt at cosplay.

This is all your personal opinion. You and all of the other "we" who came up with this statement.

I cosplay to show appreciation for my favorite characters and series. Why is it wrong for people to wear a closet cosplay, if the Death Note characters wear normal clothing? Most anime have characters wearing extravagant, gravity defying costumes. This one in particular doesn't have that.

And really, who cares this much and why? No one is giving Death Note cosplayers 'a bad name'. I swear I see all kinds of statements in this forum. Well, I've given my two cents, take it how you want to.

Honey Vanity
10-27-2009, 05:28 PM
Yes, that does make a cosplay. Some articles of clothing for a cosplay can be easily bought and would be a waste of time to make. And of course, there is the obligatory putting it on, as in wearing said article of clothing. I don't know who this "we" you are speaking of.

**A lot of people agree. Someone already said this:

"We, pretty much most of us, agreed that it wasn't the amount of Death Note Cosplayers in the end, it was the amount of Death Note cosplayers that didn't seem to put much effort into their cosplays, i.e. 'closet cosplay'."

"Why is an L or Light cosplay so "easy" if no one can seem to do it well?"

"The thing is, any cosplay you do isn't gonna be "easy" if you want it to be good."

"I'm tired of Hot Topic Misas that and people who think any white shirt + blue jeans= L."

"I'm not saying, crouch while you're at Johnny Rockets, but I want to see L, not dude in jeans and a shirt."

"Dressing 'like' them was my comparison to a half-assed cosplay. You know, not going full out."

""I know some people are just starting out cosplaying, including me, and Death Note is often times an easy option. But if you think, "OKAY I GOT JEANS AND A WHITE SHIRT I'M L LOL!!11!1!1" people are going to be able to tell."

No one is giving Death Note cosplayers 'a bad name'.

"The way I see it is there are two kinds of Death Note cosplayers. The ones who take it seriously and put a big effort in to getting every single wig fiber in place and the ones who use it as a last minute thing and put pretty much 0 effort in to it.

I dislike seeing cons getting over run with bad copys of L, Misa and Light. "

"And while I won't say they are BAD, there are people who do not put in as much effort, and sadly I fear this is more often that not."

"If you are going to do a cosplay, put SOME effort in it."

"The problem is that there's too many people that just do it half-assed. Barely any of them really try all that hard and it shows."

"I recently went to a con and saw 13-14 L's with boobs... try a little harder. :/"

"I do feel really irritated when I see no effort put into it at all [which I see A LOT of cruddy L's and Lights]."

"Personally, I see most people cosplaying L or Light because it's easy, cheap, and well known to where you can get attention."

**I'm sorry, but if a lot of people think this--that MOST DN cosplayers don't put in enough effort or look cheap/half-assed--then yes, that's giving us a bad name. Because when I say I'm a Death Note cosplayer, there are people who are going to assume the worst of me without even seeing a picture.

Cosplay_Rose
10-27-2009, 10:08 PM
And really, who cares this much and why?

THIS. I don't get it either. If you're going to get annoyed or upset at every "bad, poorly-done, or lazy" cosplay, Death Note or otherwise, you're going to give yourself an ulcer, or some other stress-related ailment.

In addition to this, these "lazy" cosplayers either feel bad already for having a "bad" cosplay, or don't give a d*mn about what you think. So you'll either be hurting them more or wasting your time and energy by complaining. Now, if it's a friend, you could easily help them become a better cosplayer, otherwise, it's none of your business.

Thearah
10-27-2009, 10:19 PM
WHOA, WOAH, WOAH, guys.

First of all, everyone please calm down.

I originally created this thread to discuss your thoughts on the AMOUNT of Death Note cosplayers, not to bash them and how they cosplay. Now I DO admit that I have seen my fill of 'Hot Topic' Misas, BUT I will not do myself, nor will I tolerate bashing them.

This thread has turned into one were slightly acidic words are exchanged at each other for their thoughts.

Please keep the disscussion calm and clean about the cosplayers and keep it nice.

Thank you.

Honey Vanity
10-28-2009, 08:23 AM
Yeah, I'm really sorry. I was super cheesed last night. The quotes I pulled were supposed to just support what I was saying. I didn't lump 'em up to offend anyone.

It just hurts a little when you're spending lots of time and money on something, then come on these boards and see people use phrases such as "shit cosplay" to generally describe the series your from. Then others say things like, "I don't even give Death Note cosplayers a second look."

I suppose it's just a couple of people, really, and I overreacted. But it's unfortunate that anyone would do that to a group of cosplayers.

KimDao
10-28-2009, 08:41 AM
Last year I noticed the amount of Death note cosplayers at a convention. There were just SO MANY of them. I don't hate any of them, I have cosplayed Misa before (not closet cosplay, I made my costume with my mum). But honestly, who really cares? They just want to have their fun and we want our fun too.

cathy29
10-28-2009, 08:47 AM
I love Death Note cosplayers, good and bad! I just love Death Note in general. xD The more, the better. Unfortunately I think the fad is dying down a little, right? ): I plan on doing a Misa someday, but it won't be a closet cosplay or anything.

Thearah
10-28-2009, 12:13 PM
Yeah, I'm really sorry. I was super cheesed last night. The quotes I pulled were supposed to just support what I was saying. I didn't lump 'em up to offend anyone.

It just hurts a little when you're spending lots of time and money on something, then come on these boards and see people use phrases such as "shit cosplay" to generally describe the series your from. Then others say things like, "I don't even give Death Note cosplayers a second look."

I suppose it's just a couple of people, really, and I overreacted. But it's unfortunate that anyone would do that to a group of cosplayers.


Oh, you are fine. It wasn't directed at you, just at the forum as a whole. I didn't mean for it to turn out like this, but somehow it just kind did.

My whole point was that I was a little overwhelmed by the amount of Death Note cosplayers-- I don't remember this many Narutos. Lol. But I love Death Note cosplays. I think they are cool even if Death Note isn't my thing. I just don't want to see them bashed, that's all. No one likes it, not matter what they cosplay.

Thank you for apologizing though. :3

Volnixshin
10-28-2009, 12:36 PM
There were a bitch load of DN cosplayers at Connecticon these past few years. I was more surprised actually. I figured for a comic/movie/fantasy/sci-fi/book con, it would have a lot more Jokers or Storm Troopers.

Cogetas
10-29-2009, 02:52 PM
Oh, you are fine. It wasn't directed at you, just at the forum as a whole. I didn't mean for it to turn out like this, but somehow it just kind did.

My whole point was that I was a little overwhelmed by the amount of Death Note cosplayers-- I don't remember this many Narutos. Lol. But I love Death Note cosplays. I think they are cool even if Death Note isn't my thing. I just don't want to see them bashed, that's all. No one likes it, not matter what they cosplay.

Thank you for apologizing though. :3

This, I understand...I remember seeing 2 or 3 L's at a convention once, and the next year there was 20 :eek:

I apologize too, I could've made my point in a nicer way. Even though I don't cosplay Death Note, I think people who do cosplay it get a bad rap that they really don't deserve.

Isn't cosplay supposed to be fun? When did people start analyzing costumes and making a determination of what is good enough, what isn't good enough, and when someone didn't "put enough effort" into something?

Alot of the people in this thread don't even know these individuals that they are criticizing. :(

Thearah
10-29-2009, 03:33 PM
This, I understand...I remember seeing 2 or 3 L's at a convention once, and the next year there was 20 :eek:

I apologize too, I could've made my point in a nicer way. Even though I don't cosplay Death Note, I think people who do cosplay it get a bad rap that they really don't deserve.

Isn't cosplay supposed to be fun? When did people start analyzing costumes and making a determination of what is good enough, what isn't good enough, and when someone didn't "put enough effort" into something?

Alot of the people in this thread don't even know these individuals that they are criticizing. :(


Yes, yes, this is why I didn't want any bad things. :] But it's alright! I don't think any of y'all were really being MALICIOUS. ^_^

Revan97
11-17-2009, 06:27 PM
I will Personally cosplay Death Note just because I like the wild cool outfits more than the subtle style with Death Note. That being said we should never hate another's costume cause we think it's overdone or not complicated enough. I'm new by the way so hi.

Thearah
11-17-2009, 06:31 PM
I don't think anyone is really hating-- It seems more like they are just frustrated and overwhelmed by the amount. I like Death Note Cosplayers, but I will admit--

When in competion and I have my crazy cosplay that I spent lots of time on, and then a Death Note group wins Best in Show (which HAS happened), it can be irritating and rather depressing.

But I like them perfectly fine.

And welcome! Newbies are awesome.

VendettaCode
11-17-2009, 06:37 PM
Death Note cosplayers are no different from other cosplays.

Why do they cosplay? They like the character.
Are they enjoying themselves? Yes? Good! No? It's probably because someone bashed their DN cosplay.

I will say, however, I am sick of the outrageously lazy attempts at DN characters, especially L. He's not as simple as he looks. Please put a little more time and thought into your cosplay than "oh, I found this cute black dress in my closet, I'll be Misa." Or "I found a white shirt and some jeans. I'll be L." I really appreciate when effort has been put into a costume. But I feel like this for ALL cosplays, not just the simple ones.

And let's face it, there are crappy DN cosplays. There are crappy ANYTHING cosplayers. (This being said, they are still people worth our respect and thus should not be bashed.) This is not a huggle-box for those who won't reach out and try. So I'm not going to say that a lot of the DN cosplayers I see don't deserve the bad rap they get, but I WILL say that not ALL of them deserve it.

Like I said, DN cosplayers are like most others. There are good ones, there are bad ones. There are more of them, because it's easier to half-ass. But don't judge them all based on the ten crappy ones you saw while ignoring the three really really good ones.

I don't think anyone is really hating-- It seems more like they are just frustrated and overwhelmed by the amount. I like Death Note Cosplayers, but I will admit--

When in competion and I have my crazy cosplay that I spent lots of time on, and then a Death Note group wins Best in Show (which HAS happened), it can be irritating and rather depressing.

But I like them perfectly fine.

And welcome! Newbies are awesome.

I agree with this, but I think a DN group winning Best In Show is acceptable IF they worked hard on their costume/props/skit/acting, etc. There is always going to be the ONE PERson that should have one, but rest assured, whoever won, they won for a reason.

@ShindoW - I am currently a Sidoh cosplayer (along with my every present L cosplay of course. XD). ^^

sub0scientist
11-17-2009, 06:55 PM
My cosplay partner recently had to retire his (absolutely fantastic) L cosplay on account of the sheer volume of L cosplayers. He is one of the few people I've ever seen actually put effort into making the character look right (he freaked. out. when his mother bleached the shirt he'd been getting all nice and dingy for a convention), and I'm really kinda sad to see a fantastic get-up retired because so many people just don't expend the effort to do things properly. He probably would have kept it if the sheer volume of cosplayers hadn't been so large, and if the majority of them had put forth effort. There were TONS of L cosplayers at the first convention we went to together -- and that was the last time he played L.

Closet cosplay is great, and purchasing costumes or items for costumes is absolutely kosher. Gods know I'm buying the suit for my Luke Valentine cosplay. (Sew a tailored double-breasted white wool suit with venting on my schedule? My god, I'm lucky to be doing to under-jacket and overcoat!) Closet cosplay can make characters accessible to people who might not otherwise have the funds to cosplay. But that doesn't mean there's not a right and a wrong way to do it.

Braithcakes
11-17-2009, 08:02 PM
I don't like L cosplayers, just because mostly they slap on the white shirt, jeans, mess up their hair, and go. they don't bother to put effort into the hair or a wig or the face or anything :\

I also don't like light.

I like matt, mello, and misa though

Thearah
11-17-2009, 10:05 PM
My cosplay partner recently had to retire his (absolutely fantastic) L cosplay on account of the sheer volume of L cosplayers. He is one of the few people I've ever seen actually put effort into making the character look right (he freaked. out. when his mother bleached the shirt he'd been getting all nice and dingy for a convention), and I'm really kinda sad to see a fantastic get-up retired because so many people just don't expend the effort to do things properly. He probably would have kept it if the sheer volume of cosplayers hadn't been so large, and if the majority of them had put forth effort. There were TONS of L cosplayers at the first convention we went to together -- and that was the last time he played L.

Closet cosplay is great, and purchasing costumes or items for costumes is absolutely kosher. Gods know I'm buying the suit for my Luke Valentine cosplay. (Sew a tailored double-breasted white wool suit with venting on my schedule? My god, I'm lucky to be doing to under-jacket and overcoat!) Closet cosplay can make characters accessible to people who might not otherwise have the funds to cosplay. But that doesn't mean there's not a right and a wrong way to do it.


It's sad to retire a cosplay because of that. It's got to be terrible. I tend to cosplay characters that are never cosplayed, so I never run into another of myself, but I have to think that that cannot be fun. ;_;

toshirua3846384
11-17-2009, 10:48 PM
in general since i have had access to lots of original anime and manga (*military brat*) i have seen things lots of series that are in my opinon better; if not well thought out than what is popular over here stateside (death note, naruto, bleach, and dbz). I have nothing against these series, infact i appreciate the hard work that all the manga artists did to illiustrate the series, my arguement would be that i dont entirely like death note, naruto, bleach, or dbz because frankly its not my cup of tea, my anime genere favorites are like higurashi no naku koro ni, or green green, tenchi muyo, mermaid saga, rizelmine, the ugly yet beautiful world, kikiador, or ranma 1/2; mainstream anime really just doesnt spark my intrest. when it comes to their cosplayers; well i dont like cosplayers that dont strive for the best cosplay of that particular character of that series i.e. people who do mostly poor half ass verisons of mello, light, misa misa, ryousaki, ichigo, ulquiorra, hailbel, sakura, sasuke, naruto, goku, videl, gohan, trunks *future vers*.lets face it we have all seen the idiots who like to post pics of poor cosplay of people who are cosplaying as a popular character, then we later see the person who was a victim of this on fourms posting that this person was mean to do this and put me on his or her video. * i hate it when people take pic of 1st time cosplayers or cosplayers that dont at the present moment look their best and post it in a video to disuade them against cosplay* but it happens, i also hate the typical mainstream cosplayers or people who will debate how their series is the best in the world because sadly they have only had access to about 20 anime series top. but thats just my opinion, also from my experience ever since death note got popular stateside and whenever i would go to cons the people who mostly cosplay as deathnote characters would always be so obnoxious destroying the character of the famed series entirely in a matter of a new york minute. im not trying to say that all people who love mainstream series or love to cosplay as many famed deathnote characters are bad, just saying they got a bad rep. which is quite unfourtunate. >_<

meepstio
11-17-2009, 11:00 PM
I cosplayed death note when the series wasn't mainstream in America yet, sure its a easy cosplay but if I want to cosplay a person from one of my favorite series what does it matter if the outfit is easy or not /: its an expression of fandom for the series.

kolor.me.L
11-17-2009, 11:14 PM
Great. Now I'm going to have to worry about 75 other Ls at the convention. *sigh* I'm growing out my hair, spending 3 to 4 months on the costume, reading as many bios online, practicing putting on make-up, going to the library to watch the TV show, and shopping for hours and hours finding the right jeans, shoes and shirt (and that is really pissing my mother off)....it isn't like I'm throwing on this and that, messing up my hair and going. I will never do that. I usually do intensive reasearch on the character until I know almost every possible thing about him/her. Currently, I'm reading about his habits.....Would I be a worthy Death Note cosplayer that put effort forth?

HMTQ - Madge
11-17-2009, 11:39 PM
Hm... I don't hate them at all. :) To be honest though, it does get a bit annoying that every where you turn, there's another Kira or L. It's... well, not a very creative costume. I admit that I choose many a cosplay because they are easy myself (Most of my cosplays, har har. >.>), but I also make a point to choose easy cosplays that are still creative and fun; or something I think the public will like and I can take a creative spin on them. A plain white shirt or brown jacket and tie I don't consider to be too creative.

I hope it didn't seem like I was attacking DN cosplayers; when it comes down to it, it doesn't matter what you cosplay as long as you love the character and have fun with it. This is just my personal opinion. ^_^;;

VendettaCode
11-18-2009, 07:09 AM
Great. Now I'm going to have to worry about 75 other Ls at the convention. *sigh* I'm growing out my hair, spending 3 to 4 months on the costume, reading as many bios online, practicing putting on make-up, going to the library to watch the TV show, and shopping for hours and hours finding the right jeans, shoes and shirt (and that is really pissing my mother off)....it isn't like I'm throwing on this and that, messing up my hair and going. I will never do that. I usually do intensive reasearch on the character until I know almost every possible thing about him/her. Currently, I'm reading about his habits.....Would I be a worthy Death Note cosplayer that put effort forth?

I think this is SO fantastic. I did the same thing (except I saved up forever to buy every DVD, movies and all so I could watch them before cons to get the "feel" of L. XD) I can't even say "I'm cosplaying L" around my mom anymore. XD As for shoes, go with ratty Converses. XD Kenichi Matsuyama (L's live action actor) used them in a photoshoot, and they are magnifiglorious. But be prepared to answer WHY L is wearing shoes. (I hate whe people ask this. He wears shoes. Just no socks. XD)

This is great. There are still the ones who actually appreciae the series and it's characters. *cries*

ladymatsuya
11-18-2009, 07:58 AM
Great. Now I'm going to have to worry about 75 other Ls at the convention. *sigh* I'm growing out my hair, spending 3 to 4 months on the costume, reading as many bios online, practicing putting on make-up, going to the library to watch the TV show, and shopping for hours and hours finding the right jeans, shoes and shirt (and that is really pissing my mother off)....it isn't like I'm throwing on this and that, messing up my hair and going. I will never do that. I usually do intensive reasearch on the character until I know almost every possible thing about him/her. Currently, I'm reading about his habits.....Would I be a worthy Death Note cosplayer that put effort forth?
Heck yes; you're fine. Rock that Death Note cosplay. If you put in effort and are creative with it, people will notice. Haters might call you out(they did to me-in the middle of a panel, no less), but shrug 'em off. I had a blast in my DN cosplay, and I'm sure you will too. And that's really all that matters. :bigtu:

Thearah
11-18-2009, 12:47 PM
Again guys, this thread is about the pure amount and how it's overwhelming, not about whether we hate them or not.

I'm saying this again because people keep saying, "I don't hate them" and stuff.

You are welcome to say that, but you might spark something you don't want to. >.>

So keep that in mind please.

VendettaCode
11-18-2009, 03:38 PM
Then, yes, there are FAR too many of them. ^^

SAKUJO! XD Just kidding, just kidding, nothing meant by it. XD

I R Cosplayer
11-18-2009, 03:49 PM
Theres nothing wrong with closet cosplay.

There is something wrong with half assed cosplay.

Deathnote or not.

If you're gonna do it, acctually do it.

If you can't take your costume seriously, how can you expect me to?

Braithcakes
11-18-2009, 03:54 PM
Great. Now I'm going to have to worry about 75 other Ls at the convention. *sigh* I'm growing out my hair, spending 3 to 4 months on the costume, reading as many bios online, practicing putting on make-up, going to the library to watch the TV show, and shopping for hours and hours finding the right jeans, shoes and shirt (and that is really pissing my mother off)....it isn't like I'm throwing on this and that, messing up my hair and going. I will never do that. I usually do intensive reasearch on the character until I know almost every possible thing about him/her. Currently, I'm reading about his habits.....Would I be a worthy Death Note cosplayer that put effort forth?


I thinnk you'll do just fne, but remember for his makeup not to overload on eyeliner, because his eyes are dark circles, not thick eyeliner :3

aaand I like that you're spending time on it..I saw this one guy once who looked like he towel-dried his air, through it on, grabbed an apple, and left.

>_> apple does get stinky in convention after a while xD

you could always bring like....a little pack of fake sugarcubes or....something.

SushiBunnie
11-18-2009, 04:51 PM
There ARE a lot of Death Note cosplayers out there. But that's fine for me. I actually think it's pretty cool to see a lot of people cosplay as their favorite character. ^^
Of course... there are ones that stuck out the most, and you can clearly see the commitment they put in.

VendettaCode
11-18-2009, 04:56 PM
Theres nothing wrong with closet cosplay.

There is something wrong with half assed cosplay.

Deathnote or not.

If you're gonna do it, acctually do it.

If you can't take your costume seriously, how can you expect me to?

THIS THIS THIS a million times over. XD

You have put my many rants on the subject into so few words. It's beautiful! :bigcry:

Thearah
11-18-2009, 06:01 PM
There ARE a lot of Death Note cosplayers out there. But that's fine for me. I actually think it's pretty cool to see a lot of people cosplay as their favorite character. ^^
Of course... there are ones that stuck out the most, and you can clearly see the commitment they put in.

What I meant by sheer amount was this: At one convention, there was one L for every person. To me, that's a tad much, that's all. I want to take pictures of cosplayers at conventions, and if everyone is cosplaying L, then it's not quite as fun taking pictures. That's all. ^_^

AngelicLotus
11-18-2009, 06:18 PM
I didn't see more than ten or so Death Note cosplayers at my last con, which had over five thousand attendees. I think other series are starting to take hold at cons and the Death Note/Naruto/Bleach craze is starting to subside a bit. Not that there's anything wrong with those; they just seem to dominate a lot of cosplay. But on a side note, I am always happy to see a girl doing a good Mello crossplay. They are my weakness!! X3

brieyhleai
11-18-2009, 08:04 PM
I am going to be L on my first day of cosplay, and I am not taking it like some sort of casual, just put it on costume. I am getting my hair all recut so I can do it, buying a death note book with pen, and I am shopping for new jeans and a shirt. Wish me luck, but I am also going as Tobi on the second day and Kairi on the third :D excited. L's being lazy is a stereotype xO

Braithcakes
11-18-2009, 08:38 PM
:D I do naruto :3

I'm working on a whole series of naruto.

kiba graduation((jus an altered version of his costume))

and his pajamas

and I'm working on ideas for his "formal" wear.
my sleeping cap will have fuzzy squeekers :D

Kiichigo
11-19-2009, 03:56 AM
It's like with all other cosplays- if it's done well and accurate I love it.

I will admit that I am evil and ignore the brunette Misas, blond Raitos and... well-endowed Ls.

toshirua3846384
11-19-2009, 05:13 AM
thats another pet peeve, people who cosplay as near, L, and ryuosaki *spelling*. if your going to cosplay as them pls bond your chest , its not really a good site to see near sprouting a d cup. i also hate the excuse of a female verison of the guy death note characters , this is something that just shouldnt be done.

Mish LexiiCHU~
11-19-2009, 11:29 AM
Yeah, the amount of Death note cosplayers has become overwhelming, especially since the same 6 characters are being cosplayed over and over~ xD
Not that I have a problem with it; I love seeing ones that actually have effort put into them~!!
But I'd like to see a Rem or Sidoh for a change~ ;D
I dont want L in the background of every picture I take~ .w.

VendettaCode
11-19-2009, 04:00 PM
thats another pet peeve, people who cosplay as near, L, and ryuosaki *spelling*. if your going to cosplay as them pls bond your chest , its not really a good site to see near sprouting a d cup. i also hate the excuse of a female verison of the guy death note characters , this is something that just shouldnt be done.

Exactly. -sigh- The L's and Lights with long hair and obviously feminine parts who say, "Oh, I'm a female version of so and so!" are very, very, VERY obnoxious. That is BLATANT laziness. It's like the "sexy-no-jutsu" Narutos who are dressed just like him, but have long hair. -_-' C'mon, ladies, it gets old...

Yeah, the amount of Death note cosplayers has become overwhelming, especially since the same 6 characters are being cosplayed over and over~ xD
Not that I have a problem with it; I love seeing ones that actually have effort put into them~!!
But I'd like to see a Rem or Sidoh for a change~ ;D
I dont want L in the background of every picture I take~ .w.

I have a Sidoh cosplay finished. ^^ I plan to put pictures up soon. (If I can manage to get my camera to work with the site. >.<)

Hasn't-a-name
11-19-2009, 04:26 PM
@ Vendetta- I agree. As with any male character, If you're going to cosplay them at least take the necessary provisions to do so.

While cosplaying Death Note with a group of friends recently, our Misa (he's a guy) who put a lot of work into the costume, got slandered by a half-assed Misa for crossplaying. The same psycho later attacked me (she ran/ tackled me into a wall...not fun)with her group, just so they could have the joy of writing Near's name into their Death Note. As with a lot of Death Note (and other) cosplayers, some of them get carried away with the character and forget about proper conduct.

kolor.me.L
11-19-2009, 05:58 PM
:waaaah:I thinnk you'll do just fne, but remember for his makeup not to overload on eyeliner, because his eyes are dark circles, not thick eyeliner :3

aaand I like that you're spending time on it..I saw this one guy once who looked like he towel-dried his air, through it on, grabbed an apple, and left.

>_> apple does get stinky in convention after a while xD

you could always bring like....a little pack of fake sugarcubes or....something.

Okay. *phew* At least I put effort into it. I think it'll drive me crazy if I see a ton of other Ls at the con, and only 2 or 3 are fantastic....I'll get my picture taken with them!

lawliet.
11-19-2009, 06:09 PM
I have a Sidoh cosplay finished. ^^ I plan to put pictures up soon. (If I can manage to get my camera to work with the site. >.<)

Holy tennis balls, you're cosplaying Sidoh...?!
I am giddy with glee. I am NOT even kidding. You'll be the first Sidoh cosplay I'll have ever seen.

Hee-Hee
11-19-2009, 06:11 PM
Don't have a problem with DN cosplayers, as I've cosplayed Near myself. Now, IMMATURE cosplayers (which sometimes do happen to be of the DN variety), those I have problems with.

Thearah
11-19-2009, 06:17 PM
Don't have a problem with DN cosplayers, as I've cosplayed Near myself. Now, IMMATURE cosplayers (which sometimes do happen to be of the DN variety), those I have problems with.


This a million times.

Btw Loved you at Oni-con~ <3 <3 <3

VendettaCode
11-19-2009, 06:46 PM
:waaaah:

Okay. *phew* At least I put effort into it. I think it'll drive me crazy if I see a ton of other Ls at the con, and only 2 or 3 are fantastic....I'll get my picture taken with them!

Yes, it is very frusterating, especially when someone asks for thier picture and ignores you because "Aww, I already got a picture of an L!" ;-; Try going to a public Death Note Photoshoot. It's HORRIFYING.

Holy tennis balls, you're cosplaying Sidoh...?!
I am giddy with glee. I am NOT even kidding. You'll be the first Sidoh cosplay I'll have ever seen.

There's another one. On this site, search Sidoh. A Mello comes up. Click the Mello, and they have pics of the Sidoh. Granted, ths Sidoh, OBVIOUSLY has a better costume than I, but alas, my parents hate cosplay and i have to improvise on a budget. XD I'll see if I can get some pics in this weekend or next week sometime. ^^

So glad someone's as excited about it as I am.

Hee-Hee
11-19-2009, 06:50 PM
This a million times.

Btw Loved you at Oni-con~ <3 <3 <3

^^ Well thank ya!

My_Insanity
11-19-2009, 10:19 PM
I personally am a Misa cosplayer, I pay attention to detail and make sure everything is accurate before doing anything (ignore my vol. 4 Misa if you go to my costume list, she needs a couple of adjustments/isn't complete I just wanted to shoot the costume, I wouldn't wear her anywhere until she's perfect)
I don't see anything wrong with accurate Death Note cosplay, there was an amazing L and Light at a con I went to last month, I didn't see them as any different to any other accurate cosplayers. Any crossplayer who doesn't bind doesn't get any less respect from me but I don't see them in as good light as someone who actually tries to be accurate and does, I don't see Death Note cosplayers as lower than any others because they pick to cosplay from the series I just like to see it done well as zi do any other cosplay

name600
11-20-2009, 12:21 AM
i thing that there are way to many L floating around in my location of cosplayes. seriously how many times does a 30 Lights have to kill 49 L's

sephygoth
11-20-2009, 07:33 AM
what is this thread for? what do people think of _____ cosplayers is old and belongs on other lower class sites. Death note is everywhere, I haven't watched it, but in the end a specific thread about this series is just odd.

Thearah
11-20-2009, 01:46 PM
what is this thread for? what do people think of _____ cosplayers is old and belongs on other lower class sites. Death note is everywhere, I haven't watched it, but in the end a specific thread about this series is just odd.

I'm rather offended by this honestly.

If you read the first post, you would know where I was going with this.

I made this thread because I was feeling overwhelmed by the number of Death Note Cosplayers, and I was jsut curious as to what everyone else thought. That is the purpose of this thread.

That being said, it doesn't mean everyone stayed on the topic. It soon became a bashing thread, and I expressed my feelings to everyone to please not talk bad about them because that was not the purpose of this thread.

I like Death Note cosplays, but I do not like seeing an L or a Light in the background in every single one of my pictures.

That was the purpose of this thread-- expressing my thoughts that I was a bit overwhelmed. That's all.

VendettaCode
11-20-2009, 03:37 PM
what is this thread for? what do people think of _____ cosplayers is old and belongs on other lower class sites. Death note is everywhere, I haven't watched it, but in the end a specific thread about this series is just odd.

What do you mean by "lower class sites?" Is a certain thread just not good enough for cosplay.com? I'm sorry, I didn't see any rules pertaining to that kind of thing. It's a touch shallow to assume that a site is "too good" for a topic. Are things like that really that serious to you? Not meaning to tread on toes or anything, but seriously...

I, personally, thought it was a wonderful funderful opportunity to express opinions of the overwhelming number, like Thaelia said, of Death Note coslayers, and how there are good ones out there.

Thearah
11-20-2009, 04:00 PM
What do you mean by "lower class sites?" Is a certain thread just not good enough for cosplay.com? I'm sorry, I didn't see any rules pertaining to that kind of thing. It's a touch shallow to assume that a site is "too good" for a topic. Are things like that really that serious to you? Not meaning to tread on toes or anything, but seriously...

I, personally, thought it was a wonderful funderful opportunity to express opinions of the overwhelming number, like Thaelia said, of Death Note coslayers, and how there are good ones out there.

Exactly. Why does asking for other opinions on a topic make me and my thread 'low-class'?

VendettaCode
11-20-2009, 04:22 PM
Exactly. Why does asking for other opinions on a topic make me and my thread 'low-class'?

So sorry, I got your username wrong. XD

Thearah
11-20-2009, 04:23 PM
So sorry, I got your username wrong. XD

Oh it's okay. I don't worry about things like that :3

KatieMc
11-20-2009, 05:26 PM
I've never actually watched Death Note, although I do know what some of the characters look like, and I don't notice them very often at cons. Occasionally I will be like "hey it's that dude from Death Note!" But I think most of the time I am like "Hey who's that guy in pants and a shirt that's getting photographs taken?"

I've found even in photoshoots of series I know well, I will still get confused by the identity of the typical "I have pants and a shirt, but did not style my hair" people. Maybe I am dozy lol.

Back to the main topic, I think for such a vast amount of people to cosplay Death Note, it must be pretty awesome. Maybe I should watch it.

sephygoth
11-20-2009, 05:27 PM
other low class sites, meaning not this site, both of you. like 4chan
"your thoughts on" topics invites the worst, frankly and in all literal senses: asking for it, you are asking.
You have a very good chance of offending cosplayers from that series by posting "you'r thoughts". If you got offended yourself, you shouldn't have made the thread which singles out a particular band. ANY popular series could be used here, that was essence of my post, this idea can go on forever since every "thought" I've seen applies to any other popular item.
Newborns to coscom or not, I'd like to think you don't do that.
....and every other post seems to be a post (by one of 2 ppl) to quote and agree with the last one, goes in circles, someone either hates or loves.
So I'm sorry I picked at your post, but times change. Soon it'll be a new series you see all the time, just go with it, ...I'll make a curtain backdrop of L's for my next photoshoot.
all in all, you hide behind others thoughts, you didn't think there would be bashing? :p what did you think would happen? be it neutral, some threads you shouldnt start >.> you should know the touchyness of many ppl on forums(on ANY website), joined 3 months ago or not. (I say that cause you obviously have more talent than 3 months worth)

VendettaCode
11-20-2009, 09:03 PM
other low class sites, meaning not this site, both of you. like 4chan
"your thoughts on" topics invites the worst, frankly and in all literal senses: asking for it, you are asking.
You have a very good chance of offending cosplayers from that series by posting "you'r thoughts". If you got offended yourself, you shouldn't have made the thread which singles out a particular band. ANY popular series could be used here, that was essence of my post, this idea can go on forever since every "thought" I've seen applies to any other popular item.
Newborns to coscom or not, I'd like to think you don't do that.
....and every other post seems to be a post (by one of 2 ppl) to quote and agree with the last one, goes in circles, someone either hates or loves.
So I'm sorry I picked at your post, but times change. Soon it'll be a new series you see all the time, just go with it, ...I'll make a curtain backdrop of L's for my next photoshoot.
all in all, you hide behind others thoughts, you didn't think there would be bashing? :p what did you think would happen? be it neutral, some threads you shouldnt start >.> you should know the touchyness of many ppl on forums(on ANY website), joined 3 months ago or not. (I say that cause you obviously have more talent than 3 months worth)

So maybe you should just let the circle run its course? Or do you now decide what goes where and what offends people? :)

The point isn't that "ANY popular series could be used here," it's just somewhere to share opinions. If people want to get offensive, it's not our problem. We can't control others' actions or opinions. Sometimes, it's just something you feel should be shared. Some of us feel like we should be heard, sorry.

So, sorry that you though this belonged on 4chan (even though I vehemently disagree with you and I think that cosplay.com is about cosplay in general and not just what belongs on "upper class sites." For the record, last time I checked, the Internet was the Internet, end of story.)

Thearah
11-20-2009, 09:25 PM
other low class sites, meaning not this site, both of you. like 4chan
"your thoughts on" topics invites the worst, frankly and in all literal senses: asking for it, you are asking.
You have a very good chance of offending cosplayers from that series by posting "you'r thoughts". If you got offended yourself, you shouldn't have made the thread which singles out a particular band. ANY popular series could be used here, that was essence of my post, this idea can go on forever since every "thought" I've seen applies to any other popular item.
Newborns to coscom or not, I'd like to think you don't do that.
....and every other post seems to be a post (by one of 2 ppl) to quote and agree with the last one, goes in circles, someone either hates or loves.
So I'm sorry I picked at your post, but times change. Soon it'll be a new series you see all the time, just go with it, ...I'll make a curtain backdrop of L's for my next photoshoot.
all in all, you hide behind others thoughts, you didn't think there would be bashing? :p what did you think would happen? be it neutral, some threads you shouldnt start >.> you should know the touchyness of many ppl on forums(on ANY website), joined 3 months ago or not. (I say that cause you obviously have more talent than 3 months worth)


What I was offended by was saying that my topic should be found on a lower-class' site. That entails that my htread idea itself is 'low-class'. I don't it is.

General Discussion forums are used top get opinions from others. Yes, it could be other animes or video games. Two years ago, I prolly would have put Naruto. My point was merely that I was overwhelmed by the number of them.

I do not see how that is offensive to anyone.

I do not mean to pick a fight with you, I was just slightly offended by what you said. That's all. I still love your cosplay. Lol.

What I laughed at though, and this is truly sincere and a side note, was this:

(I say that cause you obviously have more talent than 3 months worth)

Not sure whether or not you meant my cosplaying ability, but if you are, I laugh! Lol. I've been cosplaying for about two months (I DO NOT count my first cosplay. >.>). Lol. That touched me. <3 <3 <3

But as said before, I was merely saying I was overwhelmed. That is all. I meant no harm by it. ^_^

score
11-20-2009, 09:40 PM
Cosplay is just that cosPLAY but I think the heart of it is knowing what you're cosplaying from. If you haven't watched, read, or played it I don't think it really makes sense to dress up like a character from it. I think Death Note cosplayers are totally cool (I have a Light cosplay myself because I adore him) but it gets annoying when the people you see doing it aren't trying in the least to represent the character or the story Ex: Yoai versions of Light and L are a problem only because I really love the story and take it seriously to some extent. So to see it represented by people that seem to barely care about the depth of it is bothersome.

Thearah
11-20-2009, 09:51 PM
Cosplay is just that cosPLAY but I think the heart of it is knowing what you're cosplaying from. If you haven't watched, read, or played it I don't think it really makes sense to dress up like a character from it. I think Death Note cosplayers are totally cool (I have a Light cosplay myself because I adore him) but it gets annoying when the people you see doing it aren't trying in the least to represent the character or the story Ex: Yoai versions of Light and L are a problem only because I really love the story and take it seriously to some extent. So to see it represented by people that seem to barely care about the depth of it is bothersome.

I love Light as well. xD But yes, I see where you are coming from.

SpellMeRed
11-20-2009, 09:54 PM
I cannot really say anything because I only went to one con so far, but I can say this.

All three days, I saw floods of DN cosplayers. A bunch of half-assed Misa-Misa's (and I LIKE MISA, A LOT DX) They use the wrong items (which are usually are labeled "Goth Appearl") I wish they did her like what she looked like on the DN 4 Vol. cover, or even use a Lolita Dress, she did use Lolita type clothing many, many times.

I did not take pictures of them, and the only ones I truely noticed was the "Dead" Matt, and a L who was walking Barefoot and asking for candy (which, I did) It takes out the creativity when you say "Lets just go to Old Navy, buy some blue jeans, a white shirt" and "black makeup for eyes and gel hair and volia, L"

It makes it TOO easy to make it fun, honestly.

VendettaCode
11-21-2009, 12:12 PM
Cosplay is just that cosPLAY but I think the heart of it is knowing what you're cosplaying from. If you haven't watched, read, or played it I don't think it really makes sense to dress up like a character from it. I think Death Note cosplayers are totally cool (I have a Light cosplay myself because I adore him) but it gets annoying when the people you see doing it aren't trying in the least to represent the character or the story Ex: Yoai versions of Light and L are a problem only because I really love the story and take it seriously to some extent. So to see it represented by people that seem to barely care about the depth of it is bothersome.

Agreed. One hundred percent. XD

I will use OurLadyC's definition of cosplay, it's living theater. Representation, understanding, depth. I love it.

PolarIce
11-21-2009, 01:36 PM
Maybe I don't really understand since I haven't cosplayed or been to a convention yet, but if they're having fun, what's the problem?

Thearah
11-21-2009, 02:32 PM
I cannot really say anything because I only went to one con so far, but I can say this.

All three days, I saw floods of DN cosplayers. A bunch of half-assed Misa-Misa's (and I LIKE MISA, A LOT DX) They use the wrong items (which are usually are labeled "Goth Appearl") I wish they did her like what she looked like on the DN 4 Vol. cover, or even use a Lolita Dress, she did use Lolita type clothing many, many times.

I did not take pictures of them, and the only ones I truely noticed was the "Dead" Matt, and a L who was walking Barefoot and asking for candy (which, I did) It takes out the creativity when you say "Lets just go to Old Navy, buy some blue jeans, a white shirt" and "black makeup for eyes and gel hair and volia, L"

It makes it TOO easy to make it fun, honestly.

As stated before, please do not bash them please. >.<

This forum is for talking about how the amount might be overwhelming to some or not at all to others, not about the quality of their cosplays. We might all have something to say about that, but this is not the place.

I don't want any trouble in the thread again.

So please keep it 'clean'. Ha ha ha.

:3

SpellMeRed
11-22-2009, 09:01 PM
As stated before, please do not bash them please. >.<

This forum is for talking about how the amount might be overwhelming to some or not at all to others, not about the quality of their cosplays. We might all have something to say about that, but this is not the place.

I don't want any trouble in the thread again.

So please keep it 'clean'. Ha ha ha.

:3

I'm sorry >_< I didn't mean to come off that way.

Thearah
11-22-2009, 10:01 PM
I'm sorry >_< I didn't mean to come off that way.

Hey look, it's no prob! I just don't want it to escalate like it did the last time. I just don't want to talk about the 'bad' cosplayers in a 'bashing' way. While you weren't really bashing, someone might have taken offense.

It just didn't want anyone to get offended. :3

I LURV
11-23-2009, 04:52 AM
Also be aware that, most of the costumes from said animes/mangas are EASIER and more simpler to do which catches a lot of new cosplayer's attention. I personally think that, people who go to an anime convention and give a 'care' that there are hundreds of Naruto or bleach characters should just sit down and relax. I didn't choose Dosu because hes from Naruto, I personally like his clothing style.

pancakebunny
11-23-2009, 02:04 PM
Death note is out, VOCALOIDS ARE IN.
Get ready for a SHIT TON of Mikus, Rins, Lukas and etc.
I know this seems random, but you know it's happening.

:D

Thearah
11-23-2009, 02:42 PM
Also be aware that, most of the costumes from said animes/mangas are EASIER and more simpler to do which catches a lot of new cosplayer's attention. I personally think that, people who go to an anime convention and give a 'care' that there are hundreds of Naruto or bleach characters should just sit down and relax. I didn't choose Dosu because hes from Naruto, I personally like his clothing style.

This is definately true. xD But I would still feel overwhelmed had it been large numbers of say-- Trinity Blood Cosplayers (like THAT would happen. Lol). But my point is pure numbers. That's all. When there are so many from one series-- regardless of what it is-- I feel strange and alone, ya know? Maybe I'm just insecure. Lol.

VendettaCode
11-23-2009, 03:02 PM
Death note is out, VOCALOIDS ARE IN.


Thank God for this. *sigh of relief*

I know nothing about Vocaloid, but at least I don't hav to be one in a sea of many Ls, Mellos, and Nears, those being my main cosplays. XD

Thearah
11-23-2009, 03:11 PM
Thank God for this. *sigh of relief*

I know nothing about Vocaloid, but at least I don't hav to be one in a sea of many Ls, Mellos, and Nears, those being my main cosplays. XD

Honestly, I feel more aggravated by the Vocoloids rather than overwhelmed. It's nothing to do with the cosplayers, but more the reactions of the people aorund them. I think the Vocoloids are BEYOND ADORABLE, BUT I hate hearing every forty second, from a rampant fan "HOMIGHOD THAT'S A VOCOALOID> PICUTRE,TAKE,WANT,HAS NEED NOW."

Cons are loud yes, but that's a little over the top. Lol.

Again, I like the Vocoloids.

alle_goriest
11-23-2009, 03:35 PM
Sure, seeing the same thing over and over and over is a little irritating and dull, but doesn't it make the more creative costumes that much better? If cosplaying from Death Note is fun to you, enjoy yourself. Just don't expect anyone to congratulate you on or be awed by all of the hard work you put into buying a long-sleeved shirt and some blue jeans, Ls, and don't be shocked that half of the other con-goers also shop at Hot Topic, Misas. (To be honest, half of the time I can't even tell a Death Note cosplayer from someone in civilian clothes unless they are good, so I've pretty much given up.)

Also, I have to agree with the whole Vocaloids taking over thing. Actually, I feel more overwhelmed by the number of Naruto and Bleach cosplayers roaming the cons I make it to.

SpellMeRed
11-23-2009, 06:36 PM
Vocaloids are acutally are on the rise...which I am acutally intrigued to see. Vocaloids are not easy or super hard, it's in the middle. I've seen Great Vocaloid cosplayers so far though.

sephygoth
11-24-2009, 07:48 AM
So maybe you should just let the circle run its course? Or do you now decide what goes where and what offends people? :)

The point isn't that "ANY popular series could be used here"
yeah it was, it was indeed my point. Interesting twist of my point and taking control by putting words in my mouth with the first statment is very aggressive and primal(especially on forums).
get some pics, prove your a cosplayer, un-dupe your self and put YOUR face online. you're right internet is for everyone, but until you have a face, your' no one. Go back to 4chan.
but your also right, putting your 2 together, circles andbashing should ride their course >.>
Thearah,I always count a first cosplay, its a baseline after all right?

Braithcakes
11-24-2009, 09:10 AM
uhm....may I interject and say that matt's vest is really hard to make? ;_;

and >_> naruto is over-cosplayed, or used to be....but I love it, and I'm working on a very nice original design(slightly) of a character.

I like popular stuff ;_; but also...accuracy

Thearah
11-24-2009, 09:35 AM
yeah it was, it was indeed my point. Interesting twist of my point and taking control by putting words in my mouth with the first statment is very aggressive and primal(especially on forums).
get some pics, prove your a cosplayer, un-dupe your self and put YOUR face online. you're right internet is for everyone, but until you have a face, your' no one. Go back to 4chan.
but your also right, putting your 2 together, circles andbashing should ride their course >.>
Thearah,I always count a first cosplay, its a baseline after all right?

I don't count it because I couldn't sew. xD I mean, I have it up here on cosplay.com, but it's all hot glued together. It's just... Neh. I really didn't spend a whole lot of time on it. In the end, counting it doesn't really make a difference. It still makes only two cosplays. xD

VendettaCode
11-24-2009, 10:34 AM
yeah it was, it was indeed my point. Interesting twist of my point and taking control by putting words in my mouth with the first statment is very aggressive and primal(especially on forums).
get some pics, prove your a cosplayer, un-dupe your self and put YOUR face online. you're right internet is for everyone, but until you have a face, your' no one. Go back to 4chan.
but your also right, putting your 2 together, circles andbashing should ride their course >.>
Thearah,I always count a first cosplay, its a baseline after all right?

Oh, look, you even went and looked me up. How... obsessed? Vengeful? Silly?

It was YOUR point, but ONLY your point, an that was MY point.

I didn't put words in your mouth. You simply led me to a conclusion.

Aggressive and primal? Hm... "get some pics, prove your a cosplayer, un-dupe your self and put YOUR face online." "until you have a face, your' no one." "Go back to 4chan." I have nothing to prove to people like you. And I was going to get some pics done this week anyways, thanks for the advice. :)

"Go back to 4chan." So I'm low class because I'm not going to take crap from people like you? I'm low class because I don't have a "face" on the Internet?

Wow, you just proved a lot of points. :bigtu:

uhm....may I interject and say that matt's vest is really hard to make? ;_;

and >_> naruto is over-cosplayed, or used to be....but I love it, and I'm working on a very nice original design(slightly) of a character.

I like popular stuff ;_; but also...accuracy

I agree with this wholeheartedly. And yes, Matt vests are a pain. XD I have a friend who cosplays Matt, and she had a TIME trying to make a vest. Especially since she primarily handsews. XD

sephygoth
11-24-2009, 12:04 PM
Oh, look, you even went and looked me up. How... obsessed?. :bigtu:


heh I do my homework, not much in the art of obsession in simply clicking on your scren name XD literally all there is to it, and nothing to be obsessed about, literally again(since you need explaining over anything I say, there's no tone in text I do understand) cannot be obsessed over a blank page. herp
I am silly and controlling for thinking its wrong to have a thread with bashes on every page? and I still think its not the best thread idea for kicking up a fresh account. Unbiased to the topic myself(if anything leaning more towards the positive of seeing so many DN cosplayers, prob helps that I don't cosplay from it)
I just think it wasn't the best choice, I'm not ridiculing the person, nor being an ass and chucking around comedy central worthy sarcasm with high class clever thumup "smilies", you've got that covered yourself "vendetta". You feel you need to rise up, for some powerhungry reason. You WANT to argue. Yes I proved a lot with my posts, and I've taken more crap than what you have to offer. no one owns the road, there are rules and right of ways. Sometimes , you even have to yeild. Label me whistle blower, whatever, I care not to report shit, I talk to ppl in front of me first, and you are a clone of the many new "registered users" who have 10 accounts used solely for bickering without a face, loopholing it to be like 4chan.
I've met a "misa" (SN ravergaara)before who god forbid would listen to anything a guy had to say, trolled my ass for months, claimed I was a "controlling male" out of any context/equation/conversation possible. If I had any view on ANYthing she'd hurl trwisted terms. Eventually complained to her friends who would randomly ask me "why did you try to get beck arrested?" and nothing else. Arrested? XD dam girl!
Turned out, she had some bi-polar/add/whatever which was understandable, meds? understandable. Society? not. Upon their weekly "cosplay meets" in the same location, They were asked to leave the park,commons/local boston area until eventually(similar to her personality) it went on to something else. REfer to ARG forums("anime reunion group") here on coscom. Saved aim conversations of this crap, emails, and forum discussion from her group (of death note cosplayers) on my site, my own site. Supporting L (who I cannot find on coscom now) is still indeed very good friends and terms, as are other friends and acquantences, everyone besides that one beck girl has laughed at the past and moved on. I've not seen them in a year.
Now vendetta, I don't care if you are add,bi-polar,normal or not, pics or not. Don't worry about that. But you have no identity,morals,ethics or even a touch of witty retorts, nor any background to relate it to and yet you still spit.

I'm not the best either? I'm not a mod XDI'm same aseveryone here. But for crap sake be brave,put effort into your account and show ppl who they are talking to before you get offended on a thread you didn't even start and on who's views put you in a positive light.

This was entertaining to say the least.
I say without malice, but definatly without charm -.-.


Thearah with your first cosplay, you learned from what you did to your cosplay right? glue,amount of experience is a GOOD thing to claim, like a resume! ^^ If you've been working on things here and there, count it! its got value.

VendettaCode
11-24-2009, 12:17 PM
Now vendetta, I don't care if you are add,bi-polar,normal or not, pics or not. Don't worry about that. But you have no identity,morals,ethics or even a touch of witty retorts, nor any background to relate it to and yet you still spit.

I'm not the best either? I'm not a mod XDI'm same aseveryone here. But for crap sake be brave,put effort into your account and show ppl who they are talking to before you get offended on a thread you didn't even start and on who's views put you in a positive light.

This was entertaining to say the least.
I say without malice, but definatly without charm -.-.


Where did disorders come into play here?

Just because I don't have pictures of myself on the Internet doesnt mean I have no identity, morals or ethics, it just means I don't have pictures of myself on the Internet. I never claimed to have "witty retorts" and I don't need a background to be a person. I'm not the one spitting. I'm just remarking on things you said. Because they irk me.

I am not offended, I think it's ridiculous to get offended over something someone said to me on a forum, for God's sake. I never got offended, or angry, or anything else. It appears that you're the one getting angry, going on these rants about bipolar Misa's giving you crap and how people with no pictures on the Internet have no "identity" and how coscom has "right of ways." Stop playing God, for heaven's sake, and deciding who's who and what's what.

And like I said already (though you obviously tend to ignore the parts of posts that you don't have some kind of anger-fest against) I am working on pictures of my cosplays, so I'll have an "identity" for you to look up soon enough. -_-' By the way, I love how you copy-pasted the parts of my post you ranted against and left out everything else. It's like Franken-quote.

And, agreed, this was entertaining, and said with no malice.

Thearah
11-24-2009, 12:43 PM
HEY GUYS. LISTEN.

Lol. I suddenly feel likt Navi from Zelda. Anyhow, please listen to me.

This topic is not about bashing. Yes, people bash, and I have gotten mad at them and told them not too. I posted this topic because I was overwhelmed by the amount of DN cosplayers there were, NOTHING ELSE. Had it been any other series, they would be in the title INSTEAD.

I merely wanted to see if other people felt the same way-- overwhelmed-- like I did.

Where is the harm in that honestly? Society is based on opinions.

Please do not bash the thread and stop arguing about it.


Seph; Huh. Never thought about it like that. xD *suddenly counts Seung Mina* Lol.

Braithcakes
11-24-2009, 12:56 PM
>_> well...I'm kind of glad that the naruto cosplays are slowly fading down to people who are actually fans.

because now, I have no shame in doing kiba :D

Braithcakes
11-24-2009, 12:58 PM
>-> and I like deathnote :D

I just wish more of the Ls would actually put effort into it ;_; it kills me inside to see someone with just...messy hair saying they're L with a buttload of black eyeliner((when his eyes are actually....bags...not eyeliner))

T_T but I love seeing it done well :3

although earlier this year, there were three seperate DN groups at a con..and all three were just standing staring at eachother, and I walked in between them and was like 0______0

VendettaCode
11-24-2009, 01:25 PM
although earlier this year, there were three seperate DN groups at a con..and all three were just standing staring at eachother, and I walked in between them and was like 0______0

This is hilarious! XD I see this everywhere. I was L for one day at my first two cons and there was another L at both. She would glare and glare and glare every time I was in the general vicinity. XD I thought it was funny, especially since I thought she was doing a better job than I was at the time. And Nears tend to glare at each other. I have seen Mellos scream at each other. XD For a lot of people, DN cosplay goes beyond healthy competition, merely because of the overwhelming numbers. I see another DN cosplayer and I think, "Oh, wow! I need to step it up a bit!" and I see it as an opportunity/invitation to improve.

It gets scary... XD

HEY GUYS. LISTEN.

Lol. I suddenly feel likt Navi from Zelda. Anyhow, please listen to me.

This topic is not about bashing. Yes, people bash, and I have gotten mad at them and told them not too. I posted this topic because I was overwhelmed by the amount of DN cosplayers there were, NOTHING ELSE. Had it been any other series, they would be in the title INSTEAD.

I merely wanted to see if other people felt the same way-- overwhelmed-- like I did.

Where is the harm in that honestly? Society is based on opinions.

Please do not bash the thread and stop arguing about it.


I agree. I'm sorry if I came across as bashing the thread. That wasn't my intention in the least. XD

animegamer057
11-24-2009, 01:29 PM
This may be a little off-topic, but I think its relevant.

I was cosplaying as a Resident Evil STARS Riot Officer back at Anime Expo 2008. I had this idea that it would be funny if I were to arrest a Light during a DN gathering. So I got a Light cosplayer to go along with my plan. About halfway through the gathering, we started putting our plan into action, hoping we (the volunteer Light cosplayer and I) could get a few laughs from the gathering. However, what I (excluding the Light) got instead was a flurry of Death Notes thrown at me from a horde of angry Misas. Thank God for homemade riot shields though. <("<)

Now back to topic :P

Personally, I see too many Lights, L's, and Misas. For once, I'd like to see anyone cosplay as any of the task force members or the Yotsuba group. But then again, that would be pretty hard given they just wear suits......

sephygoth
11-24-2009, 01:58 PM
Where did disorders come into play here?

Just because I don't have pictures of myself on the Internet doesnt mean I have no identity, morals or ethics, it just means I don't have pictures of myself on the Internet. I never claimed to have "witty retorts" and I don't need a background to be a person. I'm not the one spitting. I'm just remarking on things you said. Because they irk me.

I am not offended, I think it's ridiculous to get offended over something someone said to me on a forum, for God's sake. I never got offended, or angry, or anything else. It appears that you're the one getting angry, going on these rants about bipolar Misa's giving you crap and how people with no pictures on the Internet have no "identity" and how coscom has "right of ways." Stop playing God, for heaven's sake, and deciding who's who and what's what.

And like I said already (though you obviously tend to ignore the parts of posts that you don't have some kind of anger-fest against) I am working on pictures of my cosplays, so I'll have an "identity" for you to look up soon enough. -_-'

And, agreed, this was entertaining, and said with no malice.

dam right show them pics! ^^
Remember tho, claiming I wanna "play god", then doing a 180 reusing "without malice" doesnt really fit >.> Some ppl are touchy would escilate normally. cause you also missed valid point I specifically made: "I'm not mod " why would I wanna decide anything? playing god would be too much work.
Yay "mental disorder"!! is was excuse for things before, uh, NOT meant for you , Example/'rant" should give you a good idea of what happened before you joined: its been a mess from time to time but ppl get over it.
If you think I'm dangerously offended and angry beyond all belief, see some of the competitoin threads and the lolita ones....so much stewing hate!

The best skits are using original ideas with a mainstream/wellknown series. That is something good out of the number of DN peeps out there.
Mixing what people can relate to with a new imaginery taste by bringing them into your world first.

VendettaCode
11-24-2009, 02:06 PM
I wasn't trying to do a 180. I didn't think you were being sarcastic. I wasn't. I meant no malice. I have no hard feelings for you. Granted, I think less of you, but no hard feelings.

Some of this is coming out of nowhere. "see some of the competitoin threads and the lolita ones....so much stewing hate!" "The best skits are using original ideas with a mainstream/wellknown series. It mixes what people can relate to with an imaginery taste. Copy THAT and paste it." You really are just avoiding the main point and bringing random stuff into it, trying to start something.

I'm not going to argue with you, because I've been asked not to, and I think that if you're going to ignore that request, well, that's pretty below the belt and disrespectful of not only me, but everone else, including yourself. So you can go ahead and keep trying to fight for a moot point by pulling stuff out of thin air, but you'll only make yourself look bad.

sephygoth
11-24-2009, 02:26 PM
I wasn't trying to do a 180. I didn't think you were being sarcastic. I wasn't. I meant no malice. I have no hard feelings for you. Granted, I think less of you, but no hard feelings.

Some of this is coming out of nowhere. "see some of the competitoin threads and the lolita ones....so much stewing hate!" "The best skits are using original ideas with a mainstream/wellknown series. It mixes what people can relate to with an imaginery taste. Copy THAT and paste it." You really are just avoiding the main point and bringing random stuff into it, trying to start something.

I'm not going to argue with you, because I've been asked not to, and I think that if you're going to ignore that request, well, that's pretty below the belt and disrespectful of not only me, but everone else, including yourself. So you can go ahead and keep trying to fight for a moot point by pulling stuff out of thin air, but you'll only make yourself look bad.

What are you talking about? I was being sincere here -.- nothing is below anyone's belt, and I'm not fighting with you :angel:

VendettaCode
11-24-2009, 02:28 PM
Then we're finally at an understanding.

Thearah
11-24-2009, 02:51 PM
Lol. Yay for understandings!

And Vendetta; You weren't bashing anything, neither of you really. I jsut thought that it wouldn't be fun if more people decided to jump in and then more chaos begins. =.=;;

VendettaCode
11-24-2009, 02:55 PM
Lol. Yay for understandings!

And Vendetta; You weren't bashing anything, neither of you really. I jsut thought that it wouldn't be fun if more people decided to jump in and then more chaos begins. =.=;;

True, that. XD Thank heaven it didn't escalate like it could have. I've seen some ugly arguements before, started over stupid things. The worst I saw started as a personal grudge. It got awful.

sephygoth
11-24-2009, 03:01 PM
True, that. XD Thank heaven it didn't escalate like it could have. I've seen some ugly arguements before, started over stupid things. The worst I saw started as a personal grudge. It got awful.
Honeslty, this prob shoulda been between me and Thearah to limit ppl. I don't like pissing ppl off. And I was trying to avoid negative thoughts( bashing)!
Ironic. But no Vendetta is right that she wasn't offended at all originally, so I apologize for asuming that part too wich I'm pretty sure got her into this.
Maybe this thread is good after all (for some, multiple reasons now).
lil edit: I don't beleive I made myself look bad, I think it was for a good cause in original post. But do others do, then hey, what can I say. See my gallery and ask If I have any shame ^^ But I beleive that if others don't want to be shunned then they do not need to. Original plan was not to make anyone look bad....stupid infinate crusade always bites me in ass

pancakebunny
11-24-2009, 03:06 PM
Honestly, I feel more aggravated by the Vocoloids rather than overwhelmed. It's nothing to do with the cosplayers, but more the reactions of the people aorund them. I think the Vocoloids are BEYOND ADORABLE, BUT I hate hearing every forty second, from a rampant fan "HOMIGHOD THAT'S A VOCOALOID> PICUTRE,TAKE,WANT,HAS NEED NOW."

Cons are loud yes, but that's a little over the top. Lol.

Again, I like the Vocoloids.

Agreed, but I think that's the same feeling when Death Note debuted. I mean, Misa is BEYOND adorable too, it's just that every minute there's a new cosplayer doing a shit Misa.

PLUS, I just hate the fact that some Miku's and ALOT of Misa cosplayers don't even bother to get a wig. I mean, THE WIG is the most essential part of the friggin' cosplay.

VendettaCode
11-24-2009, 03:17 PM
Original plan was not to make anyone look bad....stupid infinate crusade always bites me in ass

I agree, the original post was for a good cause, so it's all good. I tend to push a lot of things that come back and bite me, too, really, so that I can understand. XD

@pancakebunny - I agree. I'm not going to recognize a Misa with short brown hair. And the funny thing is, for kicks I got an $8 Hannah Montana wig. After being straightened and cut a little on the sides, it made a fantastic Misa wig. So now I'm compelled to cosplay Misa, even though the wig was 1. For fun, and 2. For another cosplay, kind of. XD
Eight dollars. Hannah Montana. No joke.

sephygoth
11-24-2009, 03:17 PM
Agreed, but I think that's the same feeling when Death Note debuted. I mean, Misa is BEYOND adorable too, it's just that every minute there's a new cosplayer doing a shit Misa.

PLUS, I just hate the fact that some Miku's and ALOT of Misa cosplayers don't even bother to get a wig. I mean, THE WIG is the most essential part of the friggin' cosplay.

note, old fashion "cosplay" (when it was in japan) wigs were almost never worn. and wig color was to depict the overall persionality type of characters, thats why anime was so unique. If you look at pre 2000/2001 you'll see true costume play, is fantastically dissapointing to see your fav character withOUT BLUE hair. I guess hair/wig essence words are not IN term persay, so....acceptable? why not, but in a character who's focus really is the hair, yeah should probably make sure its done right.

Thearah
11-24-2009, 03:18 PM
Honeslty, this prob shoulda been between me and Thearah to limit ppl. I don't like pissing ppl off. And I was trying to avoid negative thoughts( bashing)!
Ironic. But no Vendetta is right that she wasn't offended at all originally, so I apologize for asuming that part too wich I'm pretty sure got her into this.
Maybe this thread is good after all (for some, multiple reasons now).
lil edit: I don't beleive I made myself look bad, I think it was for a good cause in original post. But do others do, then hey, what can I say. See my gallery and ask If I have any shame ^^ But I beleive that if others don't want to be shunned then they do not need to. Original plan was not to make anyone look bad....stupid infinate crusade always bites me in ass


It's really no problem. xD So don't worry about it.

And btw, you are one of the best Robins that I have ever seen. O.o And Amon. Lord, I love that show. xDDD

sephygoth
11-24-2009, 03:26 PM
as long as your good I won't worry.
I'm going to step out and leave the thread "run its course" as suggested and cause trouble on some others... -.-

Thearah
11-24-2009, 03:36 PM
as long as your good I won't worry.
I'm going to step out and leave the thread "run its course" as suggested and cause trouble on some others... -.-

I think that running it's course will be fine. :3 Take comfort in the fact I allow no bashing! xD Bai bai~

Ammy-chan
11-24-2009, 04:49 PM
I loved Misa the first time I ever saw the series. I didn't know that she was a popular cosplay when I first did her. From day 1 as Misa, I became known as her. I just went to a con as Lucy from Elfen Lied, and everyone who saw me still called me Misa. :P Haha, needless to say, I never plan on retiring that cosplay, only adding more outfits, etc.

Honestly, girls who just wear anything black or from Hot Topic and call themselves Misa annoy me =/.

Yay to DN cosplayers <3

yatak
11-24-2009, 05:27 PM
Nothing wrong with death note cosplayers at all. Sure, seeing a wave of overweight girls with white t shirts and blue jeans does get a bit old but so does seeing a wave of business men on the daily commute. You just have to accept they are their and they most likely always will be. I think the main attraction to Deathnote is the ease of the costumes. Unless you are doing a shinigami or possibly misa, depending which outfit you choose, there really is not that much to do for it. This is very appealling to people wih low income or perhaps people with not alot of time, and considering alot of cons are full of teenagers, they most likely tick both those boxes.

If i see a good deathnote cosplay i will take a picture and commend them on their work, just like anyother costume i see. If i see a bad one, i just keep walking, just like any other.

Thearah
11-24-2009, 05:33 PM
I loved Misa the first time I ever saw the series. I didn't know that she was a popular cosplay when I first did her. From day 1 as Misa, I became known as her. I just went to a con as Lucy from Elfen Lied, and everyone who saw me still called me Misa. :P Haha, needless to say, I never plan on retiring that cosplay, only adding more outfits, etc.

Honestly, girls who just wear anything black or from Hot Topic and call themselves Misa annoy me =/.

Yay to DN cosplayers <3


I like them too. xD Just sometimes I find mass numbers of them a bit suffocating. Lol.

And my dear I believe I know you from Gaia? O.o *Ish Atari-555*

Nothing wrong with death note cosplayers at all. Sure, seeing a wave of overweight girls with white t shirts and blue jeans does get a bit old but so does seeing a wave of business men on the daily commute. You just have to accept they are their and they most likely always will be. I think the main attraction to Deathnote is the ease of the costumes. Unless you are doing a shinigami or possibly misa, depending which outfit you choose, there really is not that much to do for it. This is very appealling to people wih low income or perhaps people with not alot of time, and considering alot of cons are full of teenagers, they most likely tick both those boxes.

If i see a good deathnote cosplay i will take a picture and commend them on their work, just like anyother costume i see. If i see a bad one, i just keep walking, just like any other.

No, there is nothing wrong with them at all! I see where you are coming from with the ease of it all. Maybe I'm strange, but personally, I like that difficulty factor in making intricate cosplays, but everyone is different. I'll take pictures of good ones too. :3

mrgetalife
11-24-2009, 06:34 PM
I can say from the outside when it was overdone it was still tolerable. Like with any Anime or cosplay theme that can be overdone.

Its what the members in the cosplay are doing that bothers me more. My hate has turned to Hetalia really fast. Not only are they seen. They are heard. Nothing worse when you can't ignore a group because they are so damn loud and hyperactive.

Fong
12-04-2009, 05:44 AM
From what i have seen, the Death note rush was last year.... this year seems there was alot less.

True story.

I honestly think I've seen the greatest influx of Gurren Lagann cosplays this year...and Bleach is still holding it's three-year-long streak. Naruto is still popular but it seems to be shifting more to Bleach. Code Geass is getting up there too.

OMFG AND KINGDOM HEARTS O.o WHERE DID ALL THESE CHARACTERS COME FROM?! XD Didn't this series only have like...four? Now there's like over 9000. It's like Pokemon, THEY JUST KEEP ADDING MORE.

toshirua3846384
12-04-2009, 07:58 AM
Honestly, I feel more aggravated by the Vocoloids rather than overwhelmed. It's nothing to do with the cosplayers, but more the reactions of the people aorund them. I think the Vocoloids are BEYOND ADORABLE, BUT I hate hearing every forty second, from a rampant fan "HOMIGHOD THAT'S A VOCOALOID> PICUTRE,TAKE,WANT,HAS NEED NOW."

Cons are loud yes, but that's a little over the top. Lol.

Again, I like the Vocoloids.

with this stated i only respect people who dress as vocaloid characters if they actually know what vocaloids are and not to get them confused with utauloids or fan made ones, also if they actually have the program which is both the vocaloid program and the mmd

Eitr
12-04-2009, 08:18 AM
Light was acually my very first cosplay, i was in a Death Note group with my freinds. We did Death Note because yes it was easy, and was really our only option at the time. When i put together my light cosplay, i didn't put my long hair in a ponytail(like i have seen other lights do), i actually cut it all of, just so i could cosplay him correctlly. Even if it was an easy cosplay, there was no way i was just going to throw something on that looked sorta like something light would where and say i was him, i made sure every little thing was right(it was actually really tough finding a plain red tie that didn't make me poor xD).
But, the Misa in our group, did hardly any thing. She just put on a black tank top, a black skirt she got from hot topic, and some boots. She has long brown hair, and all she did was put in the little pig tails and did nothing. I personally thought that she really looked nothing like Misa. Becuase she thought just throwing on stuff that was black was going to work. It didn't. At all.

I dont mind death note cosplayers, i just don't like it when they think it's just such i simple cosplay that you shouln't even try to wear what they actually wear.

Bleh...i hope i made since, sorry for my long post. :x

Sondossa
12-04-2009, 02:07 PM
I don't mind people cosplaying things from popular series. That's no problem at all. It's just that it's called cosplay not slopping together. It's such a shame that people who actually work hard to make their costumes accurate are put in the same light as the people who just slop together their costume.

It just ticks me off when someone spent two seconds on their "costume" when I spent weeks and slaved over mine. It's a slap in the face.

So yes, L does have spiky hair and Misa does not just wear Hot Topic clothes from your closet. Surprising, isn't it?

Thearah
12-04-2009, 03:41 PM
Guyyyys, please, as stated before, don't bash the cosplayers. >.< I know the half-assed ones can irk us, but that's not what is on discussion. I don't want another war being started, por favor. I'm not mad, just warning. We had a blowout last time that was rather bad. =.=;;

VendettaCode
12-04-2009, 07:43 PM
The number does seem to have decreased, and I know people have said this. But it seems like it was slowly, so slowly dropping, one person at a time, and now it is a sudden drop. (I don't mind at all. <3) I do see a LOT of Vocaloids, tons and tons and TONS of Bleach, and so many FFX characters that I know about it without ever having played it. I could name almost all of the FFX costumes at a con at this point. XD

I have also seen an increase in Chii from Chobits... Hmmm...

And has anyone seen the sudden interest in South Park cosplay? Has this shocked anyone else? 0.o

brieyhleai
01-23-2010, 01:55 PM
thats another pet peeve, people who cosplay as near, L, and ryuosaki *spelling*. if your going to cosplay as them pls bond your chest , its not really a good site to see near sprouting a d cup. i also hate the excuse of a female verison of the guy death note characters , this is something that just shouldnt be done.


It doesn't matter, im flat anyhow xP

Aces
07-16-2010, 12:20 AM
It seems like Death Note gets all the "Hey, I want to cosplay a character and put little to no effort into it" cosplayers. Then, when people like myself actually TRY, we just get looked at as "another DN cosplayer".

BsWN
07-16-2010, 01:39 PM
It seems like Death Note gets all the "Hey, I want to cosplay a character and put little to no effort into it" cosplayers. Then, when people like myself actually TRY, we just get looked at as "another DN cosplayer".

I agree with that.

But also, I couldn't find the original quote, but to the quote from the post above Aces', if a genderswapped character is done right, then it can be done (Isn't there already another thread about genderswap somewhere else?).

And to add to this thread in general, unlike most cosplays, DN is less about the costumes and more about the mannerisms and overall aura the cosplayer gives off. Ex: the Mello cosplayer should have a more "Don't fuck with me" aura and the Matt cosplayer a more mellow (ah, pun...) aura. A Near cosplayer should give off a tad bit playful aura (just a little bit mind you) and a Light cosplayer should give off an aura of pride.

Also the mannerisms are important. Alot of DN cosplayers, myself included, find it hard to constantly stay in character (if they try at all). Like I CANNOT for the life of me, sit like L for 3 hours, nor can I constantly slouch like L, I try, but sometimes (alot of times) fail.

But overall, I haven't seen very many DN cosplayers. And surprisingly the one I see most commonly is Mello, then Matt, then L. Maybe that's just me.

pyrodancer
07-16-2010, 03:06 PM
I agree with BsWN, "DN is less about the costumes and more about the mannerisms and overall aura the cosplayer gives off." L's costume has got to be the easiest costume ever, so anyone can do that, but the mannerisms of the cosplayer is what will make a huge difference between ppl who cosplay L because his "costume" is easy, and the ppl who actually cosplay L because they really want to.

As for me personally, I've never done a DN cosplay, but I really love the anime, and even made my own DN notebook (hooray for spray paint!)
http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/ac203/pyrodancer063710/deathnotenotebook-Copy.jpg

And this pic is from a lil "photoshoot" thing I did, because I happy about gettin a new camera. This is just random nice clothes I had in my closet, but my friend told me that it could very well pass for a more "original" version of Light. lol I would definitely like to do a cosplay of Light eventually, and I'll probably try L as well sometime ^^
http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/ac203/pyrodancer063710/7-9-2010007.jpg

BsWN
07-16-2010, 05:18 PM
You do do a good Light cosplay ^.^ Have you seen the DN movies? You look just like the guy who plays Light, only I'd say more slim. ^.^ And I think you could do a nice L as well. Gotta work on the slouch =P

Juliapop
07-17-2010, 01:28 AM
I have to say, I'm starting to see a lot less Death Note cosplay. Maybe it was just that one con, but at AnimeNEXT last month, I saw a lot less than you'd expect - some more were there on Sunday, but even then, I saw a decrease. I saw one Mello the entire weekend.
One. Mello.
Crazy, right?

I think there are positives and negatives to a series being so popular. It's nice to be able to meet a lot of people who are into the same series you are, but then there's the bad side (which has been thoroughly discussed here; the possibility of getting lost in the crowd, it can be overwhelming for some people, etc.)

I wonder if that American movie adaptation that's supposedly coming out next year will affect the popularity of the cosplay/fandom? (Cross your fingers and hope that the movie is decent.)

Aces
07-17-2010, 11:24 AM
Death Note is getting rotated out, if you will. Before it was Naruto/Bleach/DN; now cons are flooded with Hetalia/Vocaloids/Pokemon. Not saying that its a bad thing, just saying that cosplay follows trends.

Hopefully as time goes on, the "bad" DN cosplayers will find other animes to focus on, leaving the better DN cosplayers as the remainder.

BsWN
07-17-2010, 12:37 PM
I have to say, I'm starting to see a lot less Death Note cosplay. Maybe it was just that one con, but at AnimeNEXT last month, I saw a lot less than you'd expect - some more were there on Sunday, but even then, I saw a decrease. I saw one Mello the entire weekend.
One. Mello.
Crazy, right?

I think there are positives and negatives to a series being so popular. It's nice to be able to meet a lot of people who are into the same series you are, but then there's the bad side (which has been thoroughly discussed here; the possibility of getting lost in the crowd, it can be overwhelming for some people, etc.)

I wonder if that American movie adaptation that's supposedly coming out next year will affect the popularity of the cosplay/fandom? (Cross your fingers and hope that the movie is decent.)

And ya, I haven't seen ANY DN cosplayers at my last convention... lies, I saw two, an L, and my Fem, so there were three including myself, which saddeneed me greatly.

I heard that Zach Effron was going to play Light, so I'm not so sure about it being good O_O I mean, if he's Light, then who's gonna be L?? And who's gonna be Matt (Assuming they follow the anim/manga and not the Japanese movies), and what hollywood actor could be Near? XP

Braithcakes
07-17-2010, 12:42 PM
I think, personally...the reason deathnote cosplay gets a bad rep, is because it's the most common one when people are like "I want a costume, but I don't want to put effort into it".

like, I've seen some AMAZING L cosplayers that go above and beyond to create the exact shirt, which is fitted big but isn't oversized on him, and then I've seen the ones who...are wearing a white shirt and jeans, no wig, just kinda...there.

I've also seen people walking around in normal clothes holding a deathnote and saying "I'm light" or something.

same goes for misa and the girls just wearing hottopic items.

I guess, if it's done well, I'll notice it, if not, I don't even bother looking at it ><

I mean, if I'm going to put months of effort into a costume that has no clothes (only undewear..yeah, I'm doing a nekked character) then I think effort should be put into simple clothes, as well :]


and the mannerisms, too.

BsWN
07-17-2010, 01:19 PM
But that's mostly for L, I heard around the site somewhere, I can't recall who said it, or where it was said, but it was something like "Death Note; No one really wears this shit." And it's sadly true, we see this with Matt cosplay especially XP.

Juliapop
07-17-2010, 03:29 PM
Let's remember to play nice, okay? Yes, it can be disappointing to see some DN cosplayers who may be referred to as "bad," and yes, it's annoying when we get a bad reputation because of that - but those cosplayers have just as much of a right to enjoy cosplay as more skilled cosplayers do.
(Things seem to be going pretty okay in the thread right now, but we don't need it to turn nasty. :))

I heard that Zach Effron was going to play Light, so I'm not so sure about it being good O_O I mean, if he's Light, then who's gonna be L?? And who's gonna be Matt (Assuming they follow the anim/manga and not the Japanese movies), and what hollywood actor could be Near? XP
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that my hope that it might actually be good is in vain.
No idea if the Zac Efron thing is true, but I did hear that he was asked about the role. And apparently the movie is going to be based on only the first three volumes. Even if there will be sequels, I have no idea how that's supposed to work.
And if there's a Near... I wonder if they'll go with the L: change the WorLd approach and give us another Near-that's-not-actually-Near? XD

Sorry for the derail.

BsWN
07-17-2010, 04:59 PM
Let's remember to play nice, okay? Yes, it can be disappointing to see some DN cosplayers who may be referred to as "bad," and yes, it's annoying when we get a bad reputation because of that - but those cosplayers have just as much of a right to enjoy cosplay as more skilled cosplayers do.
(Things seem to be going pretty okay in the thread right now, but we don't need it to turn nasty. :))


Yeah, I'm pretty sure that my hope that it might actually be good is in vain.
No idea if the Zac Efron thing is true, but I did hear that he was asked about the role. And apparently the movie is going to be based on only the first three volumes. Even if there will be sequels, I have no idea how that's supposed to work.
And if there's a Near... I wonder if they'll go with the L: change the WorLd approach and give us another Near-that's-not-actually-Near? XD

Sorry for the derail.

O_O Only the first 3??? This is a conspiracy! Where's our poor Mello!?! He'd be so insulted XP A Near that's not actually Near... I have to admit though, the Near in DN3 was actually pretty cute =3 I didn't mind him. But I pity L in that movie, no one wanted any of his candy kabobs XP

And this is already derailed... Someone should make a thread about the movies both the Japanese and English ones...

Juliapop
07-17-2010, 09:13 PM
Mello would already be insulted more than enough. Near was completely changed for the movie, but at least he was actually in it!
(I liked movie!Near too, I thought he was cute, especially in the scene at Wammy's House. I just wonder why they had to completely change his character design along with the backstory.)

Sort of on-topic: have any other Beyond Birthday cosplayers ever been mistaken for "bloody L" or "dead L?" I even had strawberry jam. :( I wasn't offended when someone didn't know who I was, but it was funny to see how often it happened. Something around fifteen times, I think. Maybe I should switch to a black shirt?

BsWN
07-17-2010, 10:03 PM
Mello would already be insulted more than enough. Near was completely changed for the movie, but at least he was actually in it!
(I liked movie!Near too, I thought he was cute, especially in the scene at Wammy's House. I just wonder why they had to completely change his character design along with the backstory.)

Sort of on-topic: have any other Beyond Birthday cosplayers ever been mistaken for "bloody L" or "dead L?" I even had strawberry jam. :( I wasn't offended when someone didn't know who I was, but it was funny to see how often it happened. Something around fifteen times, I think. Maybe I should switch to a black shirt?

That happened to me. A Fem!Naruto was all like "OMG IT'S L!!!" and I was like O.O "I'm not L!" and she's like "Oh..." and then I was like T.T While my Fem explained who we were... It was not fun...

And black shirt vs. white blood stained, I preffer blood stained, I just find it more creative, and shows you put more effort into it, in my opinion anyway.

Aces
07-17-2010, 10:09 PM
But that's mostly for L, I heard around the site somewhere, I can't recall who said it, or where it was said, but it was something like "Death Note; No one really wears this shit." And it's sadly true, we see this with Matt cosplay especially XP.

Hey, some of us Matt cosplayers actually give a crap ;D

Braithcakes
07-17-2010, 10:24 PM
well, it's understandable, most people who watch deathnote don't know the minor details.

and most of them definitely wouldn't be able to differentiate between BB and L.

I love beyond birthday cosplayers.

Kirabella
07-17-2010, 10:43 PM
so i have no idea about you guys but I agree with what most of you said. that if people want to cosplay and dont want to put a lot of effort into it they will mostly cosplay light or l. ive NEVER seen a good L or Light in person. and im practically obsessed with the series. (trust me) i have seen good ones online or even on this site that i absolutely adore but i really want to see the characters in the series being taken more ... seriously (hah).

SPOILER - off topic but i saw it being mentioned
about the movie. the script was leaked im not sure if it was real or not but ... you would want to shoot something if you read it. its true it's only based on the first 3 manga and its true Zac basically has Light in the bag with this one. there is really nothing good coming out of this movie. the character names have changed theres no Ryuk (...wtf?) theres no misa (its been a while since ive read the manga so i dont remember what manga she comes in) theres no mother? im not going into that theater with high hopes but i will try it. i mean they could surprise us and not have it suck ass >.>

- back on topic
ive seen a couple of good Misa's played out in cosplay at some cons ive been to, its just one of those mainstream series that are ... hmm .. misinterpreted by others who don't know the whole story or don't take the characters outfits seriously?

...if that made any sense at all >.>

Juliapop
07-17-2010, 11:08 PM
Okay, I'm sorry for furthering the derail, but where did you find the movie script? I need to see this.
And I'm not at all surprised about the names being changed.

Edit: I just googled it. And pretty much lost all hope. Who the hell is "Luke?"

Kirabella
07-17-2010, 11:23 PM
Okay, I'm sorry for furthering the derail, but where did you find the movie script? I need to see this.
And I'm not at all surprised about the names being changed.

Edit: I just googled it. And pretty much lost all hope. Who the hell is "Luke?"

bahahahah first name that popped into my head: luke skywalker
...sadly, im still going to go see the movie. JUST because i love it so much. (the series not the movie)

have you ever heard of a american remake of a jap film ... succeed?
>.> definitely got way off topic

byukuu
07-18-2010, 12:47 AM
I feel like Death Note cosplayers are getting LAZIER, if possible. I saw a lot of Ls at AB 2009 that weren't so great, but this year I went to ctcon and saw multiple BLONDE Ls. Now someone tell me that isn't messed up.

Recently, I have been horrified to see that the same fate has been passed on to Beyond Birthday. Has anyone else seen this?

Aces
07-18-2010, 09:09 AM
Did you see my L, or my friend's BB at CTCon?

@Juliapop -'Luke' derives from the latin word 'lux', which means light. Its just the English version of Light's name, more or less.

Juliapop
07-18-2010, 11:37 AM
Yeah, you're right. I think I just had an (unfair) bad initial reaction because of someone I knew with that name.
I kind of wish the name wasn't changed, but I read the discussion on the LJ community, and there were some good points made about why it might not work. For general audiences in a mostly English-speaking country who don't know the series, "Light" could come across as really cheesy.

Anyway, that's the least of the problems with the script. And there's still the possibility that it's either fake or an early draft which will be changed greatly.

Kirabella
07-18-2010, 07:16 PM
Yeah, you're right. I think I just had an (unfair) bad initial reaction because of someone I knew with that name.
I kind of wish the name wasn't changed, but I read the discussion on the LJ community, and there were some good points made about why it might not work. For general audiences in a mostly English-speaking country who don't know the series, "Light" could come across as really cheesy.

Anyway, that's the least of the problems with the script. And there's still the possibility that it's either fake or an early draft which will be changed greatly.

Omg i hope it gets changed greatly. So so so so much T_T
and yeah I guess I didn't think about the origin of the name, it still reminds me of Star Wars though

- K:mfg:

marktisgod
07-18-2010, 08:08 PM
Well anytime I see someone dressed as a character from Death Note I get mixed feelings. Theres the cosplayers that are doing it because they seriously love the anime and are die hard fans then there are the kids that do it because its the "IN" thing and a little part of me dies. Me personally I wouldn't do it because it's easy or the "IN" thing. I would do it because I love Death Note. I have been a fan since 2007 and I will always be a fan.

Juliapop I can understand your feelings when being compared to bloody L or dead L or even evil L but take into consideration that not alot of people have seen the L.A. B.B. murder files. So it's not really a surprise.

pyrodancer
07-18-2010, 09:41 PM
You do do a good Light cosplay ^.^ Have you seen the DN movies? You look just like the guy who plays Light, only I'd say more slim. ^.^ And I think you could do a nice L as well. Gotta work on the slouch =P

BsWN: Hehe, thx ^^ it was kinda funny, cuz I wasn't even cosplaying in that pic, just some nicer clothes I had in my closet, and then my friend was like, "hey, that pic reminds me of Light!" and yes, I have seen the DN movies. The guy who plays Light in the movies seems to have a pretty round face... maybe if i stuff my cheeks like a chipmunk i'll look more like him. hahaha jk Actually, depending on the angle of the camera, my face can look skinnier or rounder than normal. Here's a different pic of me (same day as that other "Light" photoshoot) and my face looks a lot rounder in this pic. I also put a pic of the guy who played Light next to mine, just as a fun comparison. ^^
http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/ac203/pyrodancer063710/lightvskiba.jpg
And yes, I will definitely work on my slouch when I work on a GOOD L cosplay ^^



.....Death Note + Hollywood = why???
It's probably gonna end up like the Avatar Last Airbender movie..... crap :P



I would understand how many ppl wouldn't know who BB is, and mistake for some other version of L. Even me, I didn't know who BB was for a while after I finished watching all the animes and movies. XP It wasn't until someone mentioned BB to me, and I had to look him up online to figure out who he was at first.