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Nine
08-19-2003, 08:14 PM
Ok.. a few of my friends are planning to put together a small Cowboy Bebop group, and I want to crossplay Faye. Everytime I bring up "I'm planning to cosplay Faye!" almost EVERYONE makes a comment about Man-Faye from AX, and it REALLY pisses me off.

I'm definately not going to be doing a half-assed job of the costume. Some of you may know that I take my crossplay serious and with characters that show skin, I wear a skin coloured body suit... but I have a fear that if I wear it to a con, I'll get at least a few comments related to Man-Faye, and I'm not up for that.

Do you think I should drop doing Faye because of the stereotype left by the Man-Faye? Do you think me cosplaying Faye is copying him? I'd like your honest answers, and don't worry about being offencive because I really don't care. lol

Delirium-Zer0
08-19-2003, 08:25 PM
In all honesty, I'd avoid it if I were you. OTOH, if you do an extraordinary job with it, you'll be the stuff of legend rather than ridicule. You should, though, probably wait until the Man-Faye joke dies off a bit. Right now might just be a bad time to do a Faye crossplay.

IAmVashTS
08-19-2003, 08:29 PM
on one note, i'd forget the Faye idea. on a second note, i really hate to put down other people's cosplay; but personally, i wouldn't be selling that Vash coat.

Eliza
08-19-2003, 08:34 PM
I personally think that you should be able to cos/crossplay any character you like... I can't see how dressing up as Faye Valentine would be copying, because I'm sure Man-Faye wasn't the first person to dress up as her...

As to the comments, yeah, you'll probably get some 0_x but you could always politely tell people that you don't like the comparison, especially when you know you're going to work really hard to portray her.

so I say go for it; that's my opinion ^^;; but it's ultimately your call.

hachikin
08-19-2003, 08:54 PM
i say go for it, just know that you probably WILL get some people making dumb comments. but if, like you said, you take your crossplay really seriously, you'll probably look fabulous & give people something to think about besides man-faye! ^_^

Menchi
08-19-2003, 09:30 PM
heh i say go for it nine...any mindless idiot stupid enough to make comments isnt worth listening to. i know ya wont do some half assed many faye antic an will be doin it to be more passable vs "haha look at my hairy a** arent i funny". me personally i think if something is well done it will far surpass any half baked attempt at something even if not as popular. you went as sailro moon once, even though sialor bubba has been doin iut for liek what 5 years? i wouldnt let any criticism get to ya...an go for it being crossplay in general seems to get alot of jokes amade about iut but if ya want to cosplay as a char i think its not bad if done *in taste*

Karisu-sama
08-19-2003, 09:35 PM
I don't think you'd be copying him, and I don't think there is anything wrong with you crossplaying Faye, but Man-Faye is rather notorious right now. Not only WILL you get the inevitable comments and comparisons, but there will also be people who have never seen him in person or pics who will assume YOU are Man-Faye.

It's up to you, but I'm not sure it's the best idea at the moment, unless you can blithely ignore the Man-Faye comments around you. (I know I'd much rather see YOUR Faye costume - which I'm sure would be tastefully done - than skanky butt-pelt Man-Faye. >.<) At some point, I hope "Man-Faye" will move on to other things, and the big deal over that will die down...

Karisu-sama
08-19-2003, 09:40 PM
on a second note, i really hate to put down other people's cosplay; but personally, i wouldn't be selling that Vash coat.
Blunt observation:
No, you really DON'T hate to put down other people's cosplay; in fact, you seem by that quote to rather enjoy it. Otherwise you would never have posted that uncalled-for off-topic comment in this Faye Valentine crossplay thread.

IAmVashTS
08-19-2003, 09:46 PM
Blunt observation:
No, you really DON'T hate to put down other people's cosplay; in fact, you seem to enjoy it. Otherwise you would never have posted that uncalled-for off-topic comment in this Faye Valentine crossplay thread.

actually, i really DO hate to put other people's cosplay down. and the post wasn't off the topic. I took a look at his website, and decided to make a comment about it IN ADDITION TO making a comment about the whole Faye thing. which is why the Faye comment was FIRST

and on an unrelated topic; the coat isn't bad, i just wouldn't be selling it.

Andrea
08-19-2003, 09:58 PM
You're definitely not "copying" Man-Faye, any more than the tons of girls crossplaying Kenshin or InuYasha are copying each other. ;) Faye is a popular character, so it's not like it's really one person's trademark cosplay, even if there is one person somewhat notorious at the moment.

Yeah, you'll probably get some comments. But that would happen anytime you crossplay, I suppose, and I certainly wouldn't mind seeing a tasteful, well thought out Faye crossplay, personally. I say go for it.

(Also, I just took a look at your gallery... your Lulu is lovely. :D)

Karisu-sama
08-19-2003, 09:58 PM
actually, i really DO hate to put other people's cosplay down. and the post wasn't off the topic. I took a look at his website, and decided to make a comment about it IN ADDITION TO making a comment about the whole Faye thing. which is why the Faye comment was FIRST
Your Faye comment wasn't included in my post of your quote, because THAT is on-topic.

On the other hand, if you looked at Nine's cosplay.com gallery or website and didn't care much for his Vash coat, why would you post it in a Faye Valentive crossplay thread instead of PMing Nine about it?

Edit: (And the rest of this message is now being PMed to YOU - I'm taking my own advice.)

Koumori
08-19-2003, 11:04 PM
I don't think it's a good idea right now, for the reason Karisu stated: man-Faye is fresh in everybody's minds right now. Real fresh.

Gren
08-19-2003, 11:48 PM
As long as you do it like a serious Faye costume, and not a more gag-ish (as in joke gag. Not gurk! gurk! so horrific) way like that fantastic Naga costume, I don't think it should be an issue. I

f you wanted to have fun with it, you could put little letter stickers on your bum that say "Not Man-Faye" That would make me laugh and laugh and laugh.

RHIshida
08-20-2003, 12:43 AM
You probably will get some rudeness if you crossplay Faye because of Man-Faye, but really, most people will probably commend on such a great Faye costume because of Man-Faye.

Nine
08-20-2003, 12:45 AM
on a second note, i really hate to put down other people's cosplay; but personally, i wouldn't be selling that Vash coat.

Thanks for the advice! ..but, I actually made that costume for my best friend (the guy wearing it) a month ago, with a limited buget, and he really liked it, so that's all that really matters. ^^; He was really popular at Anime Evolution 2003, in that costume too, so it was well worth the DVD he gave me in return. ^^d

If you wanted to have fun with it, you could put little letter stickers on your bum that say "Not Man-Faye" That would make me laugh and laugh and laugh.

LOL! I could have a sign with me saying "I'M NOT MAN-FAYE" or something like that. XD

I'll wait for more advice, but I still really want to cosplay Faye, and won't be actually wearing her to a convention untill April 2004, so hopefully the Man-Faye image will hopefully fade away by then.

Alexia Ikyu
08-20-2003, 01:13 AM
We should get a whole entire HORDE of GOOD crossplaying Faye's to counter act this! It is something shouldn't be allowed to be seen at conventions *points to little kid's eye levels* and a group of good crossplaying Faye's would more than likely bring some lost respect back to crossplaying.


(Thanks to Merle-kun for insist on the little kid's eye levels, never would have thought of that besides little kids being horrified in general.)

RHIshida
08-20-2003, 06:59 AM
I feel sorry for the short people and the little kids that ever got stuck behind Man-Faye. Poor kids ._.

arucard
08-20-2003, 07:28 AM
what is why this man-faya. I read the whole post and i am so lost. I think theres nothing wrong about crossplaying, its like making a costume that is oppsite of your gender,it is still a costume

Gren
08-20-2003, 09:43 AM
Man-Faye is a notorious crossplayer from AX2002/2003 who wears an ill fitting, not particularly accurate, junk clearly visible, ass hanging out Faye costume. I think he's hilarious, most find him to be grotesque. There are actually a few threads about him, if you use the search option.

arucard
08-20-2003, 09:54 AM
o_O LOL, wow that is not right but i have seen a LOT worse than that. I also think it is hilarious gren and thanks for telling me

Eliza
08-20-2003, 10:05 AM
there may be worse out there, but that's still not something favoratle to be compared to if you happen to be crossplaying the same character 0_x I know I'd be annoyed.

Nine
08-20-2003, 05:30 PM
Man-Faye is hillarious if you think people who mock crossplayers and crossplay in general are funny.

Sure, I think Man-Faye is grotesque, but that's far from the reasons why I don't like him. I can stand someone's hairy butt hanging out of his shorts, or their gut hanging out, whatever.. I've gone to many other celebrations and have seen much worst. That's beside the point.

The main reason why I dispise him is that his actions, and others like him, create negative and horrible labels and stereotypes on others, like me, who actually take crossplay seriously. Now, that's something I don't find funny at all.

LadyVincira
08-20-2003, 06:50 PM
I agree with you, Nine. Mocking crossplay is totally, TOTALLY wrong! I can't stand to see a character done mockingly, *particularly* in bad taste. I think you should go with your gut on whether to dress as Faye or not - in the end, it's really up to you. But I did like the sign idea: "I am NOT Man-Faye!" 0>.>0

Menchi
08-20-2003, 07:10 PM
me, i woudl avoid the costume myself but its me...atleast till his ass hair an his costume are clear of ppl's memories. even though i have the feelin he will repeat it like sailor bubba. but hmmmi liek the costumes less cosplayed myself an have alot i wanna do...but no money.