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Artema
09-24-2003, 08:12 PM
Shaving was brought up in a few threads, so I thought I'd dedicate one to solving the problem of leg hair and not dying from blood-loss or itch in the process ^_^

Keep in mind that this is how I do it, I have fairly sensitive skin that gets itchy and red if I don't go through everything stated below. That is why waxing is goooood ^^ Painful, but gooood.

Okay, so you want to shave your legs but they're getting itchy?

First off, if the hair is considerably long, trim it first. If it's too long it'll catch in the razor and get in the drain and just... ugh. x.o' So yes, trim first!

When you're in the shower, wash with a moisturizing soap. If you use a regular soap (Lever 2000 is the soap of the Devil!) it'll dry your skin out and you'll screw yourself over before you even put a razor to the hair.

Rinse! For an added bonus to help smooth skin, try using a shower scrub. Keep away from scrubs that have salt, as it'll irritate sensitive skin.

Post-scrub, rinse, use a shower cream lathered into a sponge and rinse again.

Now it's time to shave! Venus razors are (imho) the best. They are pricy, but they shave close and leave the less nicks and bumps.

Before shaving, apply a shave cream that has a lot of moisturizers and vitamin E. Also, wet your legs before putting on the stuff, or else it'll get ucky and hard to shave.

After applying, wet the razor, start at the bottom of your leg, and glide it up. Try to move slow. When you get to the knee, it helps to bend your leg so the skin is taut, and helps reduce nicks.

After shaving, rinse the skin with warm water, and again apply the shower cream. Even with moisturizers, shave stuff still might tend to dry skin out. Afterwards you can rinse them with cool water, but I really see and feel no difference. o0'

Once out of the shower, pat the skin dry, don't rub it. Try to be quick though! After that, time to get out the lotion!

Try to find a good body cream that's fairly thick and non-greasy, as well as hypo-allergenic. If your legs are already itching, try to size up exactly where they're itching. Usually it's around places where you nicked.

Don't just slather it on, take small amounts and dot on the itching places, before using your fingertips to glide it on and let your skin absorb it slowly.

Before the body cream, you may choose to put on some of that Bikini Zone stuff that prevents redness and ingrown hairs.

You can also put on lotion that helps thin hair out, so it'll be less noticible when it grows back.

And that is shaving your legs! ^_^

All the stuff I use except for the razor is a Bath and Body Works product ( I work there, sue me AND my discount, yuk yuk :D), and are as follows:

True Blue Spa Like Butter Moisture Bar
Pure Simplicity Fig Hydrating Body Scrub
Fig Hydrating Shower Cream
TBS Shave the Day Shea-ving Cream
BBW Benefits Body Butter
TBS I Couldn't Hair Less Shave-less Body Lotion

Yes, it all has a smell to it, and I smell like a big fruitbasket when I'm done (I love being a girl), but you can most definetly find stuff like this that's off-brand and up and down the aisles of an Eckerd.

Anyone else who has a preferred product or method, feel free to add to or take away any of my suggestions. ^^ This is all just what works for me. :3

And if all else fails, gentlemen, get a wax. It hurts, yeah, though not as much as getting an upper lip or eyebrows done, and the more you do it, the less it'll hurt. :P

Richii
09-24-2003, 08:56 PM
I dissagre about legs hurting less then eyebrows. but anyway
Venus! Yeah! and be careful when you put lotion on after because some of those sented lotions can sting you freshly shaven skin. ouchie.

Volksen
09-26-2003, 11:33 AM
Would this method apply for arms as well?

I'm not crossplaying but have never seen anime characters with hair on their arms. Plus I think it would look odd to have a blond/yellow wig and then dark brown hair on my arms. I have also thought about trying to lighten or color the hair but after talking with the costume/make-up professor here at school he said the easiest thing to do would be just to shave em. Also anyone know how fast the hair would grow back? Like would I have to shave my arms each day of the con like I will have to for my face. Arms just seem like they would be the hardest to shave I've also thought a little about trying Nair or the likes but have mainly been against it b/c I've heard that it doesnt really work or sometimes burns. Any help would really be appreciated. Thankie :)

daguru
09-26-2003, 10:01 PM
hi! sometime in the near future, I will be crossplaying (sort-of) as Mokoto(el hazard) in his fatora outfit. Basically Im cosplaying as a crossdresser. Kinda like cosplaying as Nuriko(fushigi yugi). This would be my first crossplay(sort of). Mokoto has a long dress that reaches the top of his ankles and he has plain high-heels. The area exposed (on me) is harry. Should I just shave off the exposed area or go crazy with a razor and take-off all the hair on the legs. Oh, and for some reason, roazors don't phase me at all. I can shave and shave and feel fine.

Please, I need yur input, im kinda new at this.

Menchi
09-26-2003, 10:28 PM
daguru: that one it entirely up to you...if your not in the mood for shaving your whole leg jus do a lil bit above the spot it stops as when you do sit down a dress/skirt will go up a bit higher. but if it was more like mid calf or higher prolly do the whole deal. another option depending on your hair color...if your hair is light (say blonde or such) you may jus be able to get a pair of opaque tights an do that being all crossplayers dont shave an do tights instead. dance tights are thickest, then woud be your run of the mill tights from store. its another option though.

summary:

1. if its not too long jus shave the spot an a bit above to allow the dress line ot raise a bit upon sitting

2. shave it all an jus go all out. (woud suggest it if ya got mid-calf, knee lengh or shorter)

3. if you got really light light hair on your legs (blonde hair) a pair of opaque tights may cover it enough that its not a big deal.

daguru
09-26-2003, 10:36 PM
looks like option 1 or 2. I got Brown hair (same as Mokoto's). Oh! what about eyebrow-plucking. I usually just use some tweezers on the unibrow and that's it. But to get the real "mokoto" look, I need to thin them....or something (as you can see, I'm new at that too).

*starts self-inflicting pain* AAAAHHHHGGG! I don't know anything about the stuff I don't know anything about! O.o

edit: woohoo! 100 posts!

DarkindDreamer
09-27-2003, 02:41 AM
i have black hair and i can wear dance tights and be fine.. i've been doing drag and such for over 2 years and have never shaved.. i wear 2 pair of dance tights.. and then a flesh tone hose that brings it to my natural color.. it takes a few more layers when i wear hip pads (foam padding cut to shape to increase female form) but i can use normal tights for that.. wearing those underneath the dance tights and such..

Oh.. and it takes like a month for arm hair to grow back. .and looks REALLY scary for a while.. i did it once.. and i'm not sure if i'll do it again.. unless it's cold and i can wear long sleeves .

Sephiroth-chan
09-27-2003, 05:57 PM
Instead of using shaving cream, I use Conditioner. it's less expensive, gentler, reduces cuts...and if you DO get cut, it miraculously seals it to keep the bleeding from starting, or not as bad. Also, I find the nutrients in it excellent for skin...making flesh good and soft after.

And, joy of joys, no rashes that I've seen with using it.

BountyBebopLuva
09-27-2003, 10:09 PM
Would this method apply for arms as well?

I'm not crossplaying but have never seen anime characters with hair on their arms. Plus I think it would look odd to have a blond/yellow wig and then dark brown hair on my arms. I have also thought about trying to lighten or color the hair but after talking with the costume/make-up professor here at school he said the easiest thing to do would be just to shave em. Also anyone know how fast the hair would grow back? Like would I have to shave my arms each day of the con like I will have to for my face. Arms just seem like they would be the hardest to shave I've also thought a little about trying Nair or the likes but have mainly been against it b/c I've heard that it doesnt really work or sometimes burns. Any help would really be appreciated. Thankie :)


The only bad thing about shaving your arm hair is when you shave ANY part of your body the hair will come back in thicker, darker and more corse(sp?).

Volksen
09-29-2003, 01:10 AM
From what I have heard the hair does not grow back thicker. It just seems that way because all of the hair is growing back at the same rate and the same length so there appears to be more. This is just what I have heard though I dont know it for a fact.

Leafy
09-29-2003, 12:42 PM
Actually, with any hair, arms, legs eyebrows etc it does come back thicker and or darker. I've had one arm in a cast and the other flailing around compensating for the useless arm, well, during the time in the cast all my arm hair got pulled out and now I'm left with one arm with pale brown/nearly blond hairs and the other covered in black hair. So it does come back darker/thicker.

As for waxing, if you have a high pain tolerance and don't turn all shades of magenta like I do then go for it, its the best method there is.

One more thing, for the little nicks and cuts what I've found works really well to close them up is the "new skin" paint-on-bandage stuff. It burns for two minutes, but after that its all good and worry free

Menchi
09-29-2003, 01:57 PM
there is nair if ya arent allergic, the stuff makes the hair come back the same color an thinner sometimes. but if ya nair ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS test patch its so not worth allergic reactions a scabbing/burns. if the scent of the plain stuff is an issue try the scented stuff. walmart has like 3-4 scents ^^

daguru
09-29-2003, 02:55 PM
what about that "nads hair-removal" stuff? Is it any good? I heard it's painless. Also Epil-Stop. It's like a hair-removal spray and a hair-removal marker (for eyebrows).

newmyu
10-06-2003, 11:47 PM
Whooo... if you're talking about the Nads sugaring stuff, it's basically just like waxing. They can say it doesn't hurt all they want, but you're still yanking out the hair. x.x;;

Personally, I just use Dove soap to shave, and then pile on the Vaseline Intensive Care lotion (the super-hydrating kind) to get rid of any itchyness. When I used to get razor-burn (which you likely will for the first few times shaving, and if you don't do it regularly) I used a shaving gel that was made for the bikini line, because it's made for more sensitive skin.

The Venus is an excellent razor, but it's essentially the same thing as the Mach 3 razor (the head's shaped differently. My husband and I have started buying the blades and both of us use them on our razors, we'll get his brand one week, mine the next, ect..) I'd expect that the best one to use will be the Quattro, the four-bladed razor Gillette just released.

Beware the cheap, disposable razors on legs that have yet to be shaved... x.x;; Oh, and definately trim hairs over 1/8" long...they'll jam up and dull the razor so badly, it'll start yanking hairs out. *!!*

D_Bat
10-07-2003, 12:57 PM
hey hey. I have been shaving my legs for the past 3 weeks. I'm a guy. I enjoy crossdressing on a daily basis so it helps. Since I just started my hair has been growing back really fast. I heard it will some what slow down and hopefully it will in a few more weeks. Right now if I wanted to stay smooth then I would have to shave every day. :( :( but since I am lazy and all I don't.

As for creams and such. I use this "Fruit of the Earth" with vitamin E stuff. It really nice. I have to see if I can find some nice hair thinning lotion/cream and maybe some of the bikini stuff so that I can get rid of these damn red/rash spots and the bumps. They are really annoying.

Razors. I use a regular guys razor as I have heard it is sharper than womens razors and will give a closer shave. Any ways. There is my info. Talk to yall later. Peace.

Rethul
10-07-2003, 07:46 PM
Leafy, the reason your hair is growing back darker is because of its lack of exposure to sunlight, human hair bleaches out in sunlight.

Nekobun
10-10-2003, 03:08 AM
Just a handful of notes I don't think I saw addressed or just felt like commenting on, since I've been keeping my own legs pretty maintained after getting bored and shaving them one afternoon. That happens to me a lot, stupid things done out of boredom. Anyway...

1) If it is your first time shaving, and you need it done for a con weekend or something, DO NOT WAIT UNTIL THE LAST MINUTE. Your first "razing" is a rather time consuming process, whether you trim or not, because it's a lot of stuff that's been growing and building up that you've got to make not there anymore. I didn't have anything at hand to trim -with- the first time around, so my adventures took a good couple of hours, at least.

2) I saw recommendations that you work from the bottom of the leg up, but I've found it a bit easier, especially if you're inexperienced, to split up the job a bit; for me, thigh, calf, thigh, calf works best. Do the knees for either part for each leg, just so long as you do them. This way just keeps you from getting tired from having to hold a position for as long, and can help you keep a better idea of progress. Also, you tend to have more options in case you're sharing a bathroom if you split things up; if someone else really needs to pee, you can wrap up whatever portion you're doing and leave for a bit, then come back to it once things are clear again.

3) For those of you worried about water conservation or getting all pruney while you're shaving, it helps to have a tub. Just fill about an inch or two of warm water in the bottom (with the drain covered/closed, of course), and stand in it. When you need to wet your leg before applying gel/cream/whatever, you can just scoop water up from where you're standing, and to clean the razor, just whip it back and forth violently a few times. Granted, you're probably going to want to take the rest of your shower afterwards, or at least rinse the tub some, since there will be shaven bits that have accumulated, and make sure you clear the drain as well when you do clean up - icky thing to do, but it's only polite, and I know I get annoyed when I think things are draining too slowly. Oh, and if the water starts cooling while you're at it, just add some more. Simple.

4) As for maintainance, that varies from person to person with preference, really. If you're a guy, but plan to crossplay in the future, you should probably maintain. Personally, I find it easiest to just do a refresher every week or so; thanks to the lovely patriarchial double standards this world is subject to, no one gets real upset about a guy having mildly stubbly legs. ^_^ And, of course, make sure you get things cleaned up the day before or day of a crossplay, just to be certain you're lookin' good.

And I think that about wraps things up from me.

momo_anzu
11-08-2003, 02:32 PM
Ah...I am sorry but...so many of my guy friends legs scare me 'cause of how very very hairy they are. Especially if they have dark hair...My friend Ron..omg...my friend Kayla actually bought a comb for him and he started brushing his leg hair, lol.

I think guys would really like shaving if they gave it a chance....legs AND underarms (I hate underarm hair...). Their legs and underarms would be all smooth....hehe.

What works best for me when shaving is to first take a regular showever, then turn the showever off and fill the tub a little. Lather with a nice shaving gel and then go up in short intervals, not all the way at once, since the razor will probably be stuck with hair by the time you reach your knees....so just do half way up your calf then the rest of the way to your knee, rinsing in between, repeat as desired.

D_Bat
11-08-2003, 04:01 PM
I was talking to one of my girlfriends a while ago and she said that she shaved sorta like 3 times to make sure it lasted a nice long time, Go against the hair, then with it, then against it again. It takes a little while longer but it does last longer than just shaving once. That's how I shave now.

As for hair. I am a guy and I think hair is a turn off. It's gross. I have asked a few other guys what they think and it is a general concensus that even guys don't like hair. I just think that guys don't shave their legs, crotch, or pits because they fear getting called gay or what not and it is take a lot of time to do, not to mention its a "girly" thing to do but hey, I am cool with it.

momo_anzu
11-08-2003, 05:21 PM
Just imagine if all people were running around like Austin Powers, lol. Ick!!!!

TammyKitten
11-08-2003, 08:13 PM
Nothing is as sexy as freshly shaved legs on a guy or a girl. Guys if your hesitating because your nervous or scared trust me, it is totally worth it!! It feels so cool and silky. I know with words like that might scare you but you'll never know until you try. Hair grows back so don't worry.

Cocoa
11-08-2003, 08:26 PM
Adding my one bit of advice as a girl who shaves her legs here, go reeeal slow around the knees. Because its not as flat as your calves or thighs, it's really easy to cut yourself there >< *has done so many times*

momo_anzu
11-09-2003, 12:40 AM
Adding my one bit of advice as a girl who shaves her legs here, go reeeal slow around the knees. Because its not as flat as your calves or thighs, it's really easy to cut yourself there >< *has done so many times*

Oh I hate it when that happens!

Does anyone know where you can get any creme/solution that gets rid of cut marks? I accidently scraped my leg against a chair a year or two ago and I still have this looong mark running up the front of my calf. It's starting to fade but I want it to go away FOREVER. I think it also might work on the cuts of razors.

And does anyone know how to make your underarm hair thinner? It's hard to shave there because mine grows back thick...gah...

Michi
11-09-2003, 04:32 AM
My friend Ron..omg...my friend Kayla actually bought a comb for him and he started brushing his leg hair, lol.

...Eww. ;_;


I think guys would really like shaving if they gave it a chance....legs AND underarms (I hate underarm hair...). Their legs and underarms would be all smooth....hehe.

S'true. My friend began shaving his legs out of curiosity. Another friend shaved because he needed to for a costume. Then another friend tried it. Now they all hate body hair and love the smoothness. Haha. XD

momo_anzu
11-09-2003, 06:45 AM
[QUOTE=Michi]...Eww. ;_;

Disgusting, ne? Lol. I wish the boys at my school would shave their legs...and everything else. I hate hairy hands, arms, etc...

newmyu
11-09-2003, 02:17 PM
Wow. I never really took notice of guys' various body hair unless it was really thick... I guess I got lucky with my husband... he isn't that hairy.. ^^

I really don't like the look of lots of chest hair though.. x.x;; I'm not talking to the extreme of Austin Powers, but the thick, curly chest hair... it just makes me want to get a pair of tweezers or some duct tape.. o.o;

momo_anzu
11-09-2003, 03:24 PM
.. it just makes me want to get a pair of tweezers or some duct tape.. o.o;

I know, lol. Put them from the neck down in hot wax then pull the stripey things off ^-^

Volksen
11-21-2003, 02:05 AM
I know, lol. Put them from the neck down in hot wax then pull the stripey things off ^-^

O_o

Im just going to say

Oww!

Oh and you have a really evil sadistic twisted mind hehe

allyunion
11-21-2003, 03:28 AM
Wow. I never really took notice of guys' various body hair unless it was really thick... I guess I got lucky with my husband... he isn't that hairy.. ^^

You haven't seen the abomination that was at Anime Expo...


http://man-faye.mooniidx.com/index.php?page=1

momo_anzu
11-21-2003, 04:50 AM
O_o

Im just going to say

Oww!

Oh and you have a really evil sadistic twisted mind hehe


Lol. Thank you, thank you. *bows* Lol. But don't worry. It's just for the really really really hairy dudes...especially those who go to the beach in speedos.....gah..lol.

vyrax778
11-21-2003, 12:53 PM
if using nair be very very carefull as I accidnetly burnt my leg one by not paying attention to how long it was on.

vallen
11-21-2003, 10:57 PM
Another tip for shaving.. Just for the record: I am a girl and I only shave my legs and underarms (I wax everything else), so I'm not the world's expert on shaving. Ah, the benefits of waxing... But I was talking about shaving, wasn't I?

One thing I've learned is to shave at the END of your shower because then, your pores have loosened up and have been cleansed. Also you should do this because after being in the shower for a while, your hair (prickly or not) begins to get softer and easier to shave. The water can act as a natural moisturizer.

Lilli
11-24-2003, 05:10 PM
._. For shaving I love the Gilette Mach 3 the most. I tried the "Venus" razor once, and was really displeased with it.

I wonder, I'm not sure how much this would work for a guy, but I remember when my sister and I were first starting out shaving, we'd use "flickers" which is like, a little round disc, and it has a number of blades inside of it that you dial through with a wheel as they get dull. But the nice thing is that each blade is wrapped in thin wires. It won't get you the amazingly smooth shave that a Mach 3 will achieve, but it's certainly better than having a forest on your legses!

._.; And unless you feel like making a weekly ritual of it, yeah... Please don't shave your arms, it really does come back thicker. My sister shaved my arms when I was younger, and I have very fuzzy arms. I'm just thankful I have fine blond hairs, so you can't notice. But when I get goosebumples, or like back in highschool during color guard when we'd wear black bodysuits, my arm hairs would show through the lycra, and it was actually pretty embarassing ^^;;;;