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Foxxi-chan
12-01-2010, 07:35 PM
Hey~, I'm planning to do a Germany cosplay soon and I need advice on patterns~. Any advice? It'll be much appreciated. :'D

Also, any good places to buy an Iron Cross for an okay price? And any other suggestions would be awesome~. ouo;;

Danke~. <3

Shokora
12-01-2010, 08:47 PM
Hey~, I'm planning to do a Germany cosplay soon and I need advice on patterns~. Any advice? It'll be much appreciated. :'D

Also, any good places to buy an Iron Cross for an okay price? And any other suggestions would be awesome~. ouo;;

Danke~. <3

Guten Abend! What you need to check out is the WWI and WWII re-enactment websites. Here's my favorite one: http://www.hessenantique.com/ If you type in "iron cross" in this website's search bar, you'll get more Iron crosses than you ever wanted!

As for patterns, it'll be a bit more difficult to find them...most re-enactment groups want consistency for their members, so you'll find plenty of websites selling re-enactment grade uniforms...not patterns. I can't imagine there aren't any patterns, so you may have to do some online searching. I found this pdf file for you, but my computer didn't want to open it tonight! It sounds like what you're searching for: Addendum....I got some feedback on this pdf file...and it wasn't what we're looking for.

What I did for my WWI Germany was modify a civil war pattern that I already had. Hope this helps! Viel Glück!

Youshi Semenjyu
12-14-2010, 07:20 PM
When looking for Hetalia patterns, especially with Germany, you want to remember that Himaruya made his uniforms inaccurate on purpose, which is why Germany's uniform is only *similar* to the Wehrmacht uniforms worn during WWII. Also, this inaccuracy will also help keep you from being labeled and will keep you from offending people.

As Shokora said above me, your best bet would be a generic military uniform, Civil War or otherwise, or something similar, which can then easily be modified with only a few pencil lines.

As for the Iron Cross, I got mine online on eBay for around 10 dollars, and it has a nice weight and look to it without being terribly expensive. It comes as a medal but can easily be converted to be worn on a chain or be worn at the neck as a pin.

Axelai
12-14-2010, 08:00 PM
For the Iron Cross, i got one off eBay too. $15 total. It was a Prussian recreation one, but it looked exactly like Germany's one anyways XD And nowhere on the thing does it say Prussian, so i think i'm good.

ametheneko
12-15-2010, 12:56 PM
For a costume like Germany's, you could always alter a preexisting pattern, as the others have stated. Personally, I feel like using a pattern from a historical German uniform would really creep me out. But that may just be me. I look too far into things. However, in that case, I think I'd use something like http://mccallpattern.mccall.com/m4745-products-7030.php?page_id=493 . You could just add the four pockets and alter the collar and sleeves.

Shokora
12-16-2010, 06:55 PM
For a costume like Germany's, you could always alter a preexisting pattern, as the others have stated. Personally, I feel like using a pattern from a historical German uniform would really creep me out. But that may just be me. I look too far into things. However, in that case, I think I'd use something like http://mccallpattern.mccall.com/m4745-products-7030.php?page_id=493 . You could just add the four pockets and alter the collar and sleeves.

Just remember...if you take a historical pattern...and alter it by using a different colors and different details....it no longer is historically accurate. As in, it will no longer be a historical German uniform:-) And this is what you would be doing for Hetalia's Germany, since his uniforms are not accurate due to color and slight style modifications. Also, these historical uniforms are for serious re-enactors, not Neo-Nazi enthusiasts. The goal of ALL WWII re-enactors is to honor all those who fought and died, and to prevent this war from being forgotten. Only 10% of those who fought in WWII are alive now. In another 10 years, most of these veterans will be gone. So.....I hope this will make you feel a bit less squeemish about the patterns. They are for a good cause.:toothy:

therob127
12-16-2010, 08:22 PM
Just remember...if you take a historical pattern...and alter it by using a different colors and different details....it no longer is historically accurate. As in, it will no longer be a historical German uniform:-) And this is what you would be doing for Hetalia's Germany, since his uniforms are not accurate due to color and slight style modifications. Also, these historical uniforms are for serious re-enactors, not Neo-Nazi enthusiasts. The goal of ALL WWII re-enactors is to honor all those who fought and died, and to prevent this war from being forgotten. Only 10% of those who fought in WWII are alive now. In another 10 years, most of these veterans will be gone. So.....I hope this will make you feel a bit less squeemish about the patterns. They are for a good cause.:toothy:

Just so you are aware the "pattern" pdf you referred everyone to is just color patterns, not uniform patterns. I am planning on cosplaying Germany myself in mid-February for Genericon. I looked into the reproduction WW2 German uniforms but I'd rather not have to spend so much. I also don't really care for the cosplay costumes on Ebay or other sites. So my only alternative is to sew it myself.

ametheneko
12-16-2010, 09:44 PM
Just remember...if you take a historical pattern...and alter it by using a different colors and different details....it no longer is historically accurate. As in, it will no longer be a historical German uniform:-) And this is what you would be doing for Hetalia's Germany, since his uniforms are not accurate due to color and slight style modifications. Also, these historical uniforms are for serious re-enactors, not Neo-Nazi enthusiasts. The goal of ALL WWII re-enactors is to honor all those who fought and died, and to prevent this war from being forgotten. Only 10% of those who fought in WWII are alive now. In another 10 years, most of these veterans will be gone. So.....I hope this will make you feel a bit less squeemish about the patterns. They are for a good cause.:toothy:

Oh no! I think you took me wrong. I just get much too far into history when I think about it. For example, I have a book in my room from the Hitler youth camps. When I read it (or what I can read of it), I think of all the many hands it's passed through to get to mine, all the life stories, the hardships, the joys, etc. etc. I just mean that were I to use a reenactor's pattern, I'd start thinking entirely too much about exactly what a uniform like that has seen. If any of that makes sense...orz. This is off topic. Sorry!

Youshi Semenjyu
12-16-2010, 10:55 PM
I think that the uniforms worn by the German military and such during WWII were very attractive from a clothing standpoint. The problem is that many people associate the clothing with a horrible misdeed in history.

As far as cosplay is concerned, I tend to prefer accuracy to the artist's original work, though...it may be a touch hypocritical of me to say that, considering I did add a few embellishments to my Austria outfit. More like a variation on Himaruya's theme.

But it just comes down to what you want to wear and how you want to look. And happy sewing!

Shokora
12-17-2010, 08:19 PM
Just so you are aware the "pattern" pdf you referred everyone to is just color patterns, not uniform patterns. I am planning on cosplaying Germany myself in mid-February for Genericon. I looked into the reproduction WW2 German uniforms but I'd rather not have to spend so much. I also don't really care for the cosplay costumes on Ebay or other sites. So my only alternative is to sew it myself.

No, I wasn't aware, as you're the first person to give me feedback on it. As I stated above, my computer refuses to open the file (it doesn't like pdf's) so while it sounded good, I wasn't sure. I removed the link since it wasn't helpful. Thank you for letting me know.

Yes, the reproduction uniforms ARE pricey....they're well-made and exact down to the fabric, seams, and whatnot. However, for the most part, they won't work for Hetalia's Germany for the reasons already listed above. However, the reproduction sites are good for certain things, like accessories and such. As for making Germany's uniform for Hetalia....give us a heads up if you find a good pattern:-) I think the problem here is that people don't go about wearing German uniforms for their local Halloween Party....so it's not a pattern that is going to show up in Simplicity's line or whatnot. The people who wear them (for the most part) are the WWII re-enactors, and due to their strict guidelines, they have websites to ORDER uniforms from, not patterns. Too many people would show up with the wrong shade of fabric, the wrong type of fabric, or a less than perfect sewing job. So until someone finds a good pattern, I guess we'll be stuck modifying or making our own.

ametheneko, LOL, no problem!!! In fact, I totally do the same thing: it's why I love to collect antiques:toothy:

Shokora
12-17-2010, 08:24 PM
I think that the uniforms worn by the German military and such during WWII were very attractive from a clothing standpoint. The problem is that many people associate the clothing with a horrible misdeed in history.But it just comes down to what you want to wear and how you want to look. And happy sewing!

I agree!! I am rather fond of the Waffen SS greatcoats....and they kiiiiiinda look like your usual trenchcoat, but sharper-looking. If I could wear one as my winter coat without worrying about offending people, I would.:lost:

Axelai
12-21-2010, 03:00 PM
I agree!! I am rather fond of the Waffen SS greatcoats....and they kiiiiiinda look like your usual trenchcoat, but sharper-looking. If I could wear one as my winter coat without worrying about offending people, I would.:lost:

A (ex)friend of mine wore a big, green greatcoat on a daily basis XD;; It was German, but not like... WW2 German. I think it was WWI. And while people probably we offended by it, he didn't particularly care... ahaha...

acostory
12-22-2010, 11:42 AM
I paid 30$ for my Iron Cross Dx I think I may have gotten ripped off. Though, the Military vendor at Sac was a total rip-off... 100$ for a belt? Yeah, no thanks.

Pattern: http://www.harriets.com/wwiipatterns.htm
Useful information about the uniforms: http://www.lostbattalions.com/german33-45/ww2blusefit/fit33-45.html

Found those on an earlier post.

Shokora
12-24-2010, 07:34 PM
I paid 30$ for my Iron Cross Dx I think I may have gotten ripped off. Though, the Military vendor at Sac was a total rip-off... 100$ for a belt? Yeah, no thanks.

Pattern: http://www.harriets.com/wwiipatterns.htm
Useful information about the uniforms: http://www.lostbattalions.com/german33-45/ww2blusefit/fit33-45.html

Found those on an earlier post.

acostory, you are made of win!!!!! Thank you for links!!!! Yeah, the Iron Crosses and belts on my favorite re-enactment website aren't cheap, either....but they are really high-quality (have to be, to meet the WWII re-enactment society's standards).

Die Zauberflöte
04-06-2012, 10:16 PM
For the uniform, I would check your local surplus store.
I found a good grey-green wool German Bundeswehr tunic for $15 at mine, but beware. The ones issued to surplus stores are usually there for a reason (mine has a few tiny holes on the arms, etc.) and they may not always be the right size.
If you obtain a Bundeswehr tunic, you could easily sew on the black collar and wrist cuffs.
For the iron cross, I'm not sure where you would get one of those.

animegirl389
08-18-2012, 04:16 PM
Hey~, I'm planning to do a Germany cosplay soon and I need advice on patterns~. Any advice? It'll be much appreciated. :'D

Also, any good places to buy an Iron Cross for an okay price? And any other suggestions would be awesome~. ouo;;

Danke~. <3

i got mine from ebay for 6 dollars :)