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Gengle the Cat
02-11-2011, 04:38 PM
Hi. I'm new to this whole thread-posting thing, so please forgive me if I do something dorky. :bashful:

I'm working on a Zelda costume from Twilight Princess. Originally I planned to make her armor out of craft foam. But if I need to stay warm in this outfit (a necessity 6 months of the year where I live), the shoulder pieces have to withstand the weight of my fairly heavy black wool cloak (to match the one Zelda wore in her tower).

So I've studied the Wonderflex tutorials/FAQs, scoured the other Zelda threads, and frankly conducted enough research to make my head hurt. So far Wonderflex seems like my best bet, but I was wondering if anyone had any other ideas for material. (If I could just wave a magic wand and have them constructed out of *metal* ...that would be awesome.) :rockon:

Thanks for reading!

Kesra
02-11-2011, 10:37 PM
You could probably do it with wonderflex and just do the designs with model magic.

zelda_nerdthing
02-12-2011, 05:36 AM
I found this plaster covered gauze stuff to work really well (sorry I forgot the name but I'll find it later today). Basically you make a clay or plasticine model cover it in the gauze after two or more coats remove the finished dry gauze from the plasticine and its a great light weight prop, mask etc. Very durable after 4 coats reacts almost like wood once its sealed properly. Hope it helps.
-Roger
EDIT It's called U*art Plaster Cloth Wrap

char99char
02-13-2011, 09:45 AM
Wonderflex is a lot of fun to work with and super sturdy. I have a bunch of photos of it in my gallery pics.

Gengle the Cat
02-13-2011, 04:19 PM
Hey, thanks! These are all great suggestions. They keep my wheels turning. :)

Pics of Wonderflex in progress as well as painted/finished are very helpful to me (I'm talking to you, char99char :) ...thanks). Gives me a better idea of how it works and what it looks like when it's done. I have to admit it's the price that scares me off a bit, but it could be worth it for something that looks awesome and won't get smooshed.

char99char
02-13-2011, 05:33 PM
Hey, thanks! These are all great suggestions. They keep my wheels turning. :)

Pics of Wonderflex in progress as well as painted/finished are very helpful to me (I'm talking to you, char99char :) ...thanks). Gives me a better idea of how it works and what it looks like when it's done. I have to admit it's the price that scares me off a bit, but it could be worth it for something that looks awesome and won't get smooshed.

Thanks! No problem - I know it's pricey but it was well worth it. I ended up buying two full sheets from Dazian (link below) for about $90 with shipping. I have almost a full sheet leftover after doing all my armor and my sword. If you decide to go that route I can give you some more tips on using it. I learned a lot along the way. It is a little bit flexible and very sturdy. It's also very lightweight. I wore the pieces you see in the pics all day at Ohayocon with no issues.

http://www.dazian.com/cgi-bin/page.pl?action=show_style&style_id=337&group_id=163&cat_id=39

ladymermaid
03-09-2011, 04:44 PM
I'm doing a Zelda Cosplay as well and I originally made the armor out of craft foam but hated how they came out, I'm now going to try and make them out of Aluminum flashing (see my friends post about it here, she made her Saber from fate stay knight armor out of it: http://paladinproject.wordpress.com/2011/03/06/mommy-where-does-aluminum-flashing-come-from/). We've not yet figured out how to make the details as aluminum flashing can't be welded and adhesive wont stick to it.

Gengle the Cat
03-10-2011, 05:19 PM
I'm doing a Zelda Cosplay as well and I originally made the armor out of craft foam but hated how they came out, I'm now going to try and make them out of Aluminum flashing (see my friends post about it here, she made her Saber from fate stay knight armor out of it: http://paladinproject.wordpress.com/2011/03/06/mommy-where-does-aluminum-flashing-come-from/). We've not yet figured out how to make the details as aluminum flashing can't be welded and adhesive wont stick to it.

Wow. This is the first I've heard of people using aluminum flashing for armor. Let me know how it goes!

Unfortunately I couldn't get that specific link to work, but I did peruse the entire paladinproject blog. (Found the aluminum article, got hooked & just kept reading.) Your friend seems quite talented! Thank you for sharing. :)

P.S. If you don't mind my asking, what was it about the craft foam that didn't work out?

SleepingLeoHart
03-11-2011, 01:58 PM
styrene plastic 1/16 thick. you can take a razor and score it to your pattern than just pop it out and it takes heat from a gun very well

astillar
03-11-2011, 10:02 PM
"F the 'flex," I say! I'm all for Sintra/XPVC! That stuff costs roughly $1/sq. foot and doesn't have that pesky 'waffle-y' texture that WF does. But maybe I'm just biased. You might wanna check it out, nonetheless!

Gengle the Cat
03-12-2011, 11:07 AM
"F the 'flex," I say! I'm all for Sintra/XPVC! That stuff costs roughly $1/sq. foot and doesn't have that pesky 'waffle-y' texture that WF does. But maybe I'm just biased. You might wanna check it out, nonetheless!

Ha ha! But how do you REALLY feel? ;)

The price catches my attention. Does it work sort of the same way as WF? i.e. manipulate with heat, etc. And how easy is it to find?

Kesra
03-12-2011, 11:43 AM
from what I understand, Sintra doesn't bend the way wonderflex does but with this piece, you don't really need it to.

astillar
03-12-2011, 05:27 PM
Both Wonderflex and Sintra (xpvc) are thermoplastics; you heat them so that they can be shaped. It's been a while since I've worked with WF, but I believe it becomes 'shape-able' at a lower temp than XPVC, which some people might prefer.
Frankly, I started using XPVC because it was much easier to find (at the time) than WF. I could only find WF online, but XPVC is usually sold locally at any plastics distributor or sign-making business.
A couple of links I quickly found to explain more.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sintra_%28Material%29
http://www.tri-dee.com/Sintra%20sheets%20information.htm

Gengle the Cat
03-12-2011, 06:33 PM
Hey, thanks for the helpful info, astillar. And I think Radleia's right - the pieces won't need to be bent *too* intricately, and they're small enough to fit in a pot of boiling water, so this stuff has potential. My one concern is the designs on the shoulder pieces:

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs49/f/2009/177/2/c/Twilight_princess_Zelda_armor_by_Sailor_Moon_stuff .jpg

(example pic by Sailor Moon Stuff on deviant art - great looking work)

With Wonderflex, I could cut out the raised designs & just stick them to the shoulder pieces while they're still warm, right? Would XPVC work the same way, with the addition of adhesive? (I'm assuming it doesn't have the self-adhesive properties of WF?)

Thanks for all the reads / responses, you guys! Makes me want to dive right into this armor-making...but I gotta get the dress done first...Can I please have some more free time? XD