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Red Comet
02-19-2011, 10:08 AM
So, if you want to share some of your not-so-good con experiences, you can do so here.

As for me... my ridemate/roommate for Saboten-con 2010 in Phoenix really inconvenienced me. Here's what happened: Everything went smoothly until Sunday, then on that morning, while I was packing up my things, he left without telling me where he was going. This was the final day of the convention, and he said nothing about where we would meet up and get ready to go back to Tucson. He had no cell phone that I could call him with. But I wasn't worried yet. I knew he would have to come back to the room to get his stuff.
So I arrived at the room before the 12:00 check out time. His stuff was still there. I waited for him. 12:00 came and went and he was nowhere. Around 1:30 I was getting kinda worried that something might have happened to him. I called the front desk to ask where he was, but they said they didn't know. So I kept waiting for the rest of the afternoon. At around 4:30 I was quite worried, so I headed to the front desk in person. On the way there I spotted him. He had been out enjoying himself at the con all day, and when I asked why he wasn't at the room at 12:00, he said "Oh... I just assumed you were going to pack my stuff into the car and check out". He assumed WHAT? I respect people's personal property. I don't go rummaging through it. If he had his bags neatly packed away I MIGHT have assumed he wanted me to put it in the car, but his stuff was all scattered over his half of the room.
So, we incurred a late check out fee because of this. And to top it off, he never paid back anything. Not even the late check out fee that never would have been added on if he wasn't there. For a while, I thought he was just going through some tough times and needed a bit more time to gather the money. But when he said he was heading to Taiyou Con 2011, after not having paid me for Saboten Con 2010, I knew that wasn't the case.

Rosemary_red
02-19-2011, 10:47 AM
Red Comet, i feel really sorry for you. That was very rude on his part but if karma has tought me anything it's that you get what you diserve in the long run. So I hope that you have better luck next time(=

Brsis
02-19-2011, 12:57 PM
Ouch! That sounds like a pretty lousy room mate. We've not really had payment issues in our group, but it's become a 'rule' that whoever put the room on their card gets paid back before entering the dealer's room on the last day of the con AT THE LATEST.

I have a pretty good crew for conventions and I'm aware of what triggers me becoming an obnoxious anti-social cow and when to get away from said triggers, so normally they roll along fairly smoothly.

Every single convention, however, I will either A. Destroy my feet or B. Get a blinding migraine. One or the other. Every. Single. Time. And I don't mean 'Oh, ow, that's painful', I mean either I'm physically struggling to walk, OR I can't see, I can't eat or drink, all I can do is lie on my back and whimper softly.

Luckily, it now often happens on the last evening or the day after I've got back from the convention, so I can enjoy forestalling the inevitable agony for as long as possible.

Lennester
02-19-2011, 01:35 PM
Ouch! That sounds like a pretty lousy room mate. We've not really had payment issues in our group, but it's become a 'rule' that whoever put the room on their card gets paid back before entering the dealer's room on the last day of the con AT THE LATEST.

I have a pretty good crew for conventions and I'm aware of what triggers me becoming an obnoxious anti-social cow and when to get away from said triggers, so normally they roll along fairly smoothly.

Every single convention, however, I will either A. Destroy my feet or B. Get a blinding migraine. One or the other. Every. Single. Time. And I don't mean 'Oh, ow, that's painful', I mean either I'm physically struggling to walk, OR I can't see, I can't eat or drink, all I can do is lie on my back and whimper softly.

Luckily, it now often happens on the last evening or the day after I've got back from the convention, so I can enjoy forestalling the inevitable agony for as long as possible.

That happens and i hate it my feet always kill i member one time we went for a group pose and we could barley hold and when the picture was done being taken me and my friend fell on our knees and i was like holy crap

RoninEclipse2G
02-19-2011, 04:30 PM
Every single convention, however, I will either A. Destroy my feet or B. Get a blinding migraine. One or the other. Every. Single. Time. And I don't mean 'Oh, ow, that's painful', I mean either I'm physically struggling to walk, OR I can't see, I can't eat or drink, all I can do is lie on my back and whimper softly.

Luckily, it now often happens on the last evening or the day after I've got back from the convention, so I can enjoy forestalling the inevitable agony for as long as possible.
Ugh, that sucks. I've been lucky that it's been years since I've had a migraine, but I can understand how you feel. Have you looked into getting a prescription med for migraines? I used to get them really bad when I was in my late teens - early 20's and I always carried around a couple of pills that the doctor prescribed. At the first sign of a migraine (usually a nasty pain in my right eye) I'd pop one of them and 90% of the time it would take care of things so that I could go on with my day. If I didn't catch it in time I'd be down for the count.

As far as the feet go, I would do my best to get yourself used to standing and walking for long periods of time. Luckily I'm on my feet on concrete floors for 12 hours a day at work so cons aren't an issue for me, but many others are used to sitting at school or work for long periods and just can't handle the new stress on their feet and legs. Making sure your footwear has proper support for lots of standing goes a LONG way. There are tons of inserts for every type of shoe out there to help keep your feet comfy, use them to your advantage.

So far my worst con experience has just been my wife getting tired, cranky and misanthropic. I took her to her first con last fall and she was great and enjoyed it for a while, but then she ran out of energy and started taking out her frustrations on me. I kind of expected it, but I had hoped she would last longer. Hopefully this year will be different.

Kildread
02-19-2011, 08:31 PM
Wow Red Comet, if I was in your shoes, I'd have retorted something to the effect of "I'm not here to pick up your junk --- you're responsible to handle your own luggage, regardless of how much fun you're having. Oh, and you're footing the extra fees, have a nice day!".

Some people will take any advantage you give them, letting him go with that might just register the act as 'OK' for him.

I haven't been attending events for years, but I haven't had any problems related to a convention itself, there's a bit of drama going on around the folks I've met at the events, but nothing I'm involved in.

TheseResinWings
02-20-2011, 03:36 AM
I always have the problem of something going wrong with the panels I want to attend the most. Like the parapara tutorial that was held in a room the size of a closet (I got smacked in the head by three different people several hundred times within the first two minutes.) and then there was the doll panel that got cancelled minutes before it was to be held. There were a few people waiting to start the panel that left before a con person allowed us to hold an impromptu round-table discussion. That really ruined my last con.
Years before that I had a roommate that went missing for hours on end and forced another roommates boyfriend (who wasn't even staying with us) to carry all of her luggage. The next year I made a contract specially for her that listed off all the things you had to do in order to join us at the con (one of which was that you never left the room without a partner). This sounds like a good idea, except that the person this contract was for was 17 at the time and knew better than to wander off alone and turn off her cell phone while missing (I think I forgot to add that part). Needless to say she did not sign the contract and did not join us that year.
Sadly, I admit, it was a good year.

rubyspitfire
02-20-2011, 04:15 AM
none yet for me, but there is a first time for everything

Brsis
02-20-2011, 05:03 AM
Ugh, that sucks. I've been lucky that it's been years since I've had a migraine, but I can understand how you feel. Have you looked into getting a prescription med for migraines? I used to get them really bad when I was in my late teens - early 20's and I always carried around a couple of pills that the doctor prescribed. At the first sign of a migraine (usually a nasty pain in my right eye) I'd pop one of them and 90% of the time it would take care of things so that I could go on with my day. If I didn't catch it in time I'd be down for the count.

As far as the feet go, I would do my best to get yourself used to standing and walking for long periods of time. Luckily I'm on my feet on concrete floors for 12 hours a day at work so cons aren't an issue for me, but many others are used to sitting at school or work for long periods and just can't handle the new stress on their feet and legs. Making sure your footwear has proper support for lots of standing goes a LONG way. There are tons of inserts for every type of shoe out there to help keep your feet comfy, use them to your advantage.

So far my worst con experience has just been my wife getting tired, cranky and misanthropic. I took her to her first con last fall and she was great and enjoyed it for a while, but then she ran out of energy and started taking out her frustrations on me. I kind of expected it, but I had hoped she would last longer. Hopefully this year will be different.

I've had re-constructive surgery on one of my ankles, so while I'm used to being on my feet all-day every-day, my bones just aren't up to supporting my body weight plus the weight of, say, a steel cage skirt and twenty yards of silk, for ten hours, IN KILLER STILETTOS, without complaining just a little XD Also, I have issues with most medication and especially since they normally only hit towards the end of the day, I would rather just sleep it off. I get auras a good hour or two before the pain hits, so that's nearly always enough time to get back to the hotel and out of costume.

It sounds like your wife may just be like me - I have limited tolerances and it took a while to work them out. It's easy to get overwhelmed by PEOPLE and NOISE and BUSY BUSY BUSY, especially when you're following someone else around, and it's easy to get irritated with people whom you like very much but you've just spent forty-eight hours solid in their company under dozens of other stresses and it's just a bit much. I just have to take things at my own pace, make sure I get food and drink when I feel like I need it, not when everyone else is planning to, and cycle around my group of friends so that I don't start being snappy with people. A lot of the time I'll just throw up my hands and go sit on my own in a quiet corner with my headphones and a book for an hour, and then come back, and have a much better time because of it.

kiratsukai
02-20-2011, 06:05 AM
Cat hair.

My usual Tokyo sleepover gig (for big cons like Game Show and Comiket) involves two cats.

I love you Shy Guy. I love you Monster. But your hair gets all over everything... EVERYTHING.

LeekFish
02-21-2011, 02:11 AM
Last year at Fanime it seemed like EVERYTHING went wrong, but (for the most part) things would always turn out okay.

-My friends got in a car accident but nobody was hurt
-Lost my Pokewalker... but found it lol
-Friend drama... well that's not really a good example of something that ended okay lmao
-On Thursday we didn't have a hotel room so we were all driving back to a friend's and we got lost and almost ran out of gas... and the 24 hour gas station was closed (go figure) but thankfully one of said friends had her debit card and we were able to get gas. xD; And get home rofl
-Late on Friday but my friend and I got to the Vocaloid gathering just in time
-Friend ended up going back home... and left her badge there on accident. I had to drive her all the way back to pick it up, then speed back to the con. But at least I made it in time for the Shugo Chara! gathering xD;
-Missed panels/events I wanted to go to because I had nobody to go with and/or was sadface due to aforementioned friend drama
-One night pretty much half of my roommates randomly disappeared and didn't return all night, causing most of us who were left to worry. None of them answered their phones or anything, and it was totally freaking us out. Turns out they were perfectly fine and then made fun of those of us who were worried by calling us "mom" and such. >_>; I mean, geez. What if they had gotten into serious trouble or something? =_=;

And I think that's it. xD; But this Fanime WILL be better. >w>

sam vimes
02-21-2011, 02:21 AM
I once had some teenage threaten to pucnch me in the face while we were riding in an elevator.

It ended hilariously.

lyraparry11
02-21-2011, 03:21 AM
One of my friends once forgot her badge on the Saturday of the con, so we had to go back for it. I don't care if I live like 20 minutes away from the con, that's still effing annoying.

Yazoo_the_Kazoo
02-21-2011, 11:58 AM
I love my friends, they're super awesome and I have fun with them, but I sometimes feel like they hold me back from doing what I want for the entire weekend. There are so many panels and events I would go to if I didn't have to worry about "Oh, so and so won't like that"
And one time there was drama between two of my friends that I wasn't even a part of, and it pretty well ruined the rest of the weekend, because the friend that stayed with me was depressed and didn't feel like going to anything after they fought. I felt really bad for her, and denied it when she kept on apologizing for ruining the con for me, but there are only so many times I can wander around a dealer's room before it starts to get really old.
Sometimes I think if I just went to cons by myself, I could have more fun...
Eh, maybe I just need to stop being so considerate. We can share the room, and go to some events together, but if I want to go off by myself, gorramit, I will!

Axelai
02-21-2011, 12:58 PM
During the Swine Flu epidemic, a friend who was coming to LA for Anime Expo... from Guatemala... was sick. So he took up one of the two rooms we had for the con. He was in there pretty much the whole time while we feared getting Swine Flu.

Turns out it was normal flu. Which still isn't good, but its better than swine.

FunnyValentine
02-21-2011, 01:14 PM
Hmm my first con went great, me and my boyfriend had a wonderful time.
My second con was a small one and I learned something, my boyfriend's ADD does not go well with small cons. I love him and I'm not making fun of him. It's hard for him to remain entertained when the small con is rescheduling and cancelling every event and there's only tabletop gaming. I have to keep hearing he's bored and I'm all :( I'm sorry babe.
I also have this thing where people clearly want to be my friend, but I'm strangely shy at cons. My outspoken ways vanish at cons.
That's about it, can't wait to go to more. :)

UsakoLuna
02-21-2011, 01:19 PM
Ive had bad roommates - one played her psp at full volume while listening to her iPod at full volume, the other listened to the Sailor Stars theme, on repeat, all night long, loud enough to be heard from the bathroom. I use to love that song...
I had one person roomcrash. He was a friend of a roommate who I was told just needed a floor to crash on Thursday night, he'd even pay a six of what we were paying for the nightv(we had 5 staying). Thursday comes and apperently he's staying the weekend, for free and wants a bed. I told him he could have the floor, had to pay or he could leave. He also wanted to give me a check, and got mad when I said no. He paid cash enventually. Butvhr wanted me to pay for his costume that supposedly got ruined. (I didn't, I told him if it got ruined it was his fault and I didn't touch it)

cupofjasmine
02-22-2011, 04:38 PM
I don't know if it's just me or not, but it bothered me when I saw someone bring in food from outside of a con. Not a pack of fruit snacks or anything like that, but a meal from McDonalds and they were walking around in costume eating it. Yeah..it's probably just me.

alpha_helix
02-22-2011, 05:03 PM
Just curious, why is that a problem? I mean, it'd be different if they brought it in to a restaurant or bar or something, but I have yet to see a con that forbids outside food.

Anyway, yeah, I'm another one who typically ends up with destroyed feet. It's been better since I've been making an effort to wear shoes that are more supportive, but after Dragon*Con 09, everything below my knees was SORE and SWOLLEN for a week. I've gone to cons with (non-infectious) bronchitis, broken bones, and still healing from abdominal surgery. D*Con 10 I was struck down on Saturday night by what might have been a migraine. Physical ailments, they do not stop me.

As for roomate drama, I've had a little. I find that often drama only starts if you let it, but sometimes it's inevitable. I'd rather not go into all of the details, but at one con there was a whole big stink with somebody charging stuff to the room, inviting in people the rest of us didn't know, and a lot of ignoring of personal boundaries.

Then there was another con when I walked in on the friend I was rooming with sleeping with somebody. I honestly didn't mind that this happened, but I do wish they would have thought to use the "Do Not Disturb" sign. It was a pretty awkward and shocking thing to see when it's 2AM, you're sloshed, and you just wanna sleep.

cupofjasmine
02-22-2011, 05:18 PM
Well, what she was eating had tons of ketchup on it and I'd hate to see someone get a stain on their costume. >.>

Nathus Dorkus
02-24-2011, 06:38 AM
I had a rather unpleasant time during my first convention, because I brought along one of my Asian Ball-Jointed Dolls (a fairly large one, 60cm.) and everywhere I went I heard people say things behind my back like, "Look at them carrying that thing like a baby.. That's so creepy/gross/stupid/immature/etc."
Well, excuse me for having an expensive hobby. Y'know, like figure collecting, DVD-buying, gaming, cosplaying, etc. >_> Totally the wrong place to throw insults like that about.
I also had a Canadian guy come up to me and ask questions (which was lovely) about my doll, only then he accused me of owning a "rip-off" because it was from a Korean company rather than the founder Japanese company, Volks. Not amused.

These days, no-one bats an eyelid at dolls.

I also have annoying problems with eating at cons, as I have social anxiety disorder (weirdly, going to cons does wonders for it in other ways, it's the only time in the year I can go to an overly crowded place without completely freaking out) and this means that I'm pretty weird with food.
I cannot eat in front of people I don't know well, nine times out of ten, so I went the first couple of cons without eating anything at all so by the end of it I'd be completely drained.

I now have the brains to pack some kind of lunch and plenty of water beforehand, so I can either eat on the way there or huddle up with my fiance on some grass and eat lunch before we go into the convention hall.

tn_scotsman
02-24-2011, 10:16 AM
Right now my biggest problem is trying to get to the con with friends in tow. All my friends are dropping out of going left and right. Cons are great with just me and my wife, but we both know more friends = more fun. Just very frustrating.

Lithium Flower
02-24-2011, 11:37 AM
I had a rather unpleasant time during my first convention, because I brought along one of my Asian Ball-Jointed Dolls (a fairly large one, 60cm.) and everywhere I went I heard people say things behind my back like, "Look at them carrying that thing like a baby.. That's so creepy/gross/stupid/immature/etc."

I am not going to lie....the dolls creep me out something horrible. But it's most dolls for me, not just the BJD ones. I just get the skeevies from dolls. They remind me of clowns somehow. I am sure they're listening to this RIGHT NOW and plotting my downfall. That's how much I hate them, that I KNOW they plot against me. -sob- But when I am dressed up as a prepubescent British girl on an acid trip, I don't have any right to knock on someones hobby.

The worst time I had a convention ended up being the best;
It was the first Youmacon I ever went to in 2010, I went alone for the first time at any convention. I had talked to some new friends online about meting up for the first time IRL at Youma, but otherwise I was still 'alone'. One of those friends was a boy I met on dA who was also, surprisingly part of the friends I had been talking to earlier.

It was boring. Utterly boring. I was lonely and scared and got separated from my friends for hours at a time. Left to wander the halls and sit by myself. I wasn't having fun at all. It was horribly, mind-numbingly depressing. Every few hours I'd go pop in at Boy's artists booth, feeling flustered and nervous as I sat down with him and talked as long as I could manage to talk before my shyness got the best of me and I had to run. I had started to like him, a lot. And he had started to like me back.

It scared me.

So I'd go back to hiding by myself far from the Artist Alley. Occasionally getting up to walk around by myself. Looking a little pitiful. A little depressed and very scared. I was getting so lonely there I was wishing I never came. Then on the last day Boy and his Brother closed up the Artist Alley table early, and he came to met up with me. We walked about the Dealers Hall for a while before it closed and I found myself desperately endeared to Boy. He was the single kindest man I'd ever met. His friends took me in from the start without question and brought me under their wing. Maybe they saw from the start that Boy and Me where...something special? Maybe being the youngest one brought out a paternal instinct in some of them to protect. Maybe both.

But after 3 days of being alone. Of being depressed and lonely and wishing I never moved back to 'stupid ass cold Michigan' I was...suddenly very happy. Happier than I'd been in YEARS. At the end of the day, Boy and his Brother where leaving to get home. I stopped near the door to say goodbye and Boy promptly rushed forward, put his arms around me and lifted me into a spin hug.

Boy became Boyfriend.
A lot of hard times have happened for me, for him, for our friends between then....I don't think I'd be the same person without him. Without the friends I've made through his kindness.

I was alone. Completely alone. Scared and lonely.
But I ended completely surrounded by friends.

So I'd say the single worst time I ever had a convention in my entire life ended up being the best thing in the long run.

I've had at other conventions, my childhood friend often gets her period. The problem is it causes her an unnatural amount of pain that even her doctor described as 'giving birth every day for a week each month' and she's on Birth Control pills to help this. However often times when traveling in another city she can mix up the days she takes them...and it causes her the same pain. So for almost every convention we've gone to together she's in pain D: and it makes her have to sit for some time and chill before she can get moving again. it's terrible for her that she wants to go have fun but feels forced to sit and apologizes to me like she's doing something wrong.

sam vimes
02-24-2011, 11:51 AM
Oh, Draw Girl, you so crazy.

I am dressed up as a prepubescent British girl on an acid trip

Pics or it didn't happen!

Nathus Dorkus
02-24-2011, 12:23 PM
Lithium Flower - Oh, I totally understand. I'm creeped out by porcelain dolls, weirdly. My Mother collects them and they're just.. Ugh. D: So stoic looking, like they're going to knife you when your back is turned. :I
S'just rudeness that bothers me.

It's really awesome that out of your poopy time came something good. :3

tn_scotsman
02-24-2011, 12:30 PM
Lithium Flower - Oh, I totally understand. I'm creeped out by porcelain dolls, weirdly. My Mother collects them and they're just.. Ugh. D: So stoic looking, like they're going to knife you when your back is turned. :I


I know exactly what you mean. Dolls in general creep me out. My aunt has the most horrifying room in the world. It is filled, every nook, corner, space, everywhere, with all these different dolls. I walk by the room and get chills, if I dare go in, I break out in a cold sweat.

Kaoru133
02-24-2011, 02:08 PM
Every Otakon I seem to loose something. First Otakon, lost my badge, though i found it at the lost and found. Second Otakon i lost my wallet >.< Also found it at the lost and found so I'm happy about that! Even though all the cash was gone. But most of my money was in my debit card anyways. xD

Brsis
02-24-2011, 02:14 PM
Then there was another con when I walked in on the friend I was rooming with sleeping with somebody. I honestly didn't mind that this happened, but I do wish they would have thought to use the "Do Not Disturb" sign. It was a pretty awkward and shocking thing to see when it's 2AM, you're sloshed, and you just wanna sleep.

AWKWARD.

Lithium Flower
02-24-2011, 04:03 PM
Oh, Draw Girl, you so crazy.
Pics or it didn't happen!
Whatchu talkin' about fool they be right here http://www.cosplay.com/costume/290241/


Lithium Flower - Oh, I totally understand. I'm creeped out by porcelain dolls, weirdly. My Mother collects them and they're just.. Ugh. D: So stoic looking, like they're going to knife you when your back is turned. :I
S'just rudeness that bothers me.

It's really awesome that out of your poopy time came something good. :3

I know exactly what you mean. Dolls in general creep me out. My aunt has the most horrifying room in the world. It is filled, every nook, corner, space, everywhere, with all these different dolls. I walk by the room and get chills, if I dare go in, I break out in a cold sweat.
Dollies wait for you in the night

ashelia89
02-24-2011, 04:33 PM
It's really awesome that out of your poopy time came something good. :3

>.> I just read through all of the posts in this thread and this made me laugh....might be looking at it differently though...

To the OP ,that guy sounded like a real douschebag for assuming *as they say assuming makes an ass out of you and me*,no cellphone btw? >.< how the heck would he get in touch with anyone if he had an emergency ?

Lithium Flower,your story had a happy ending :3,glad to see that!

YukinaKipling
07-15-2011, 12:54 PM
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Sissy
07-15-2011, 10:18 PM
I hate it when I can't find anything to buy for the ones I love. Nothing is good enough for my friends and family!!!!! DX

~BloodCaduceus~
07-15-2011, 10:51 PM
One problem Ive noticed at ALL cons is the disappearance of food. For example, at AnimeNEXT 2011, small resturants and what-have-you are distanced away from the con center. Now, I know everyone is going to say, "Just order out", but hear me on this situation.

For those who are diabetic, hypoglycemic, ect, sometimes you need food AT THAT INSTANT. The food places are packed beyond max capacity, there are no vending machines around, and the nearest place to get food is driving distance away (which driving with a blood-sugar problem is a BIG no no!). If cons had small food vendors around, like fruit stand sized, it would be a great help for those who NEED food, and I mean really need it.

One too many times I've had to give glucose to those in need...

ShinobiXikyu
07-15-2011, 10:53 PM
I guess it's just the ones I've been to, but Anime North has LOADS of restaurants that are literally steps away from the convention center and hotels. Plus hotel restaurants, a convenience store, half a dozen each of hot dog vendors and ice cream carts, dealer's room snack vendors, and one of those big candy carts (they sell the caramel corn, cotton candy and such).... I have never lacked for options or food at that con, except for long lines.

pltshp
07-15-2011, 10:57 PM
The lack of food was a problem for me at Kitacon. The NEC (National Exhibition Center, which is twinned with an airport) closed at night. The hotel food was both expensive and not very sustainable. So I went 3 days... with Mars Bars. One a day keeps the healthy eating away! Hopefully it will be better next year. Apparently Ayacon is good with food - there's takeout as well as food on-site for nice prices. If not, it'll be the usual diet of nothing.

gules
07-16-2011, 10:02 AM
I think the worst thing that's happened at a con (but it didn't ruin it) is that my best friend had a blood sugar crash while waiting in pre-reg line. She'd just changed her dose of BC for the same reason as another poster's friend (terrible pain) but the dose was a smidge too high and she needed to have food soon after. Weeeeell, she didn't know that yet, so she kept quiet so we wouldn't worry all the way through a 2-hour line, then after we get our badges calmly told us that she's gonna pass out. No one noticed she'd been shaking for the past 15 mins (yeah, we felt really stupid and like bad friends, but she was working at it.) I yanked her over to the side and make her sit (she wouldn't lie down) and eat and drink. Right there. Hotel was several blocks in the heat and we didn't have a car. A con worker came and told us we couldn't sit there and actually got kind of mean, so I gave him the option: Let is sit for 10-15 mins so my friend can recover, or watch her pass out just outside the doors. He let us stay. D< Mama Bear gets angry when her cubs are in trouble!

Also my not-yet-hubby-at-the-time managed to close the car door on his badge on the way home one year. He'd gotten it signed by all his favorite artists, and he didn't notice it was hanging out the door until we were several miles away. Lanyard was totally ruined, badge gone. He was so bummed, the poor lad. D: