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Keebablue
02-21-2011, 02:07 AM
I have not heard from not received anything from the commissioner I've commissioned my luce costume from. She promised pics,.and after almost 4 weeks none. Minimal contact by email and none after questioning progress and where my costume is. She told me it would be done in three weeks. I have received nothing,.and after trying to open a dispute to try and get her attn. Paypal is refusing to do so.
I hope itsa, misunderstanding, and I just want my money back. If anyone knows xul_san it may help. Act suggestions would be appriciated.

LuckInSpades
02-22-2011, 04:09 PM
Why is paypal refusing the dispute?

x-Steffi-x
02-22-2011, 05:45 PM
If Paypal is declining your dispute, maybe you should file a claim with your credit card company or bank whilst you've got the chance.

MaryWesker
02-23-2011, 09:27 PM
That happened with me as well! With the same person! I haven't heard anything since I paid her. And that was over a month ago.

Keebablue
02-24-2011, 10:01 PM
Mary, I would go to your bank and file a chargeback. I have begun paperwork to do so. Im seriously angry that I fell for this.
Paypal claims it was not a payment of goods or services, so they can do nothing for me.

MaryWesker
02-24-2011, 10:05 PM
Mary, I would go to your bank and file a chargeback. I have begun paperwork to do so. Im seriously angry that I fell for this.
Paypal claims it was not a payment of goods or services, so they can do nothing for me.
Well paypal is trying to get a hold of her to explain herself but if she doesn't before march 4 they'll refund me. If that doesn't work I'll go to my bank. did you send her payment as a gift and that is why they told you it wasn't a good or service?

Keebablue
02-24-2011, 10:39 PM
No I did not. Either way, my bank will be filing a fraud case against her. Ig anyone knows her, they should really urge her to come and explain herself. Not to mention return our money.

MaryWesker
02-24-2011, 11:19 PM
Oh dear, that's awful! I hope your bank can solve it! Yes, I agree; anyone who knows her shuld either not order from her or see what's going on with her. I'll certainly steer clear now.

Liberty53000
03-01-2011, 06:09 PM
Holy crap. She did this to me as well. I can't believe I didn't research her or anything. I filed a dispute with PayPal but haven't heard anything yet. This sucks so bad. :(

MaryWesker
03-01-2011, 07:38 PM
Holy crap. She did this to me as well. I can't believe I didn't research her or anything. I filed a dispute with PayPal but haven't heard anything yet. This sucks so bad. :(
Oh god, you too!? Jeeze, we should report her to the admins or something. Oh, you should escelate it to a claim with paypal then they'll give her ten days to respond and if she doesnt they'll refund your money; otherwise if your dispute expires you can't excelate it or create a new one.

Chu Chi
03-01-2011, 10:59 PM
Paypal does not cover custom order items or "services" like making a costume, that is why they will not open a dispute. It is not covered by Buyer Protection, probably because they got tired of covering so many claims from scammers they changed the coverage. When you go to pay for an item it will state if it is covered by the Buyer Protection.

I'm sorry that you all got scammed, I hope that your bank can get your money back by disputing the charges.

MaryWesker
03-01-2011, 11:50 PM
Oh wow, well paypal covered mine for some reason. I'm just happy I'll get my money back. And they can always go to their banks as well so I hope you all got your money back or in the process of getting it!

LoliLovely
03-05-2011, 02:00 PM
hmm three people total reporting the same accusations? Definatly a fake member/user. Unfortunatly, this has happened before. There are users on websites the claim they commission but are not actually the person they say. They can get photos from anywhere and anyone and use them. So I'm guessing this is a scammer.

Keebablue
03-05-2011, 06:56 PM
Update: she has adeviantart site under the name xuljia, where she is also.advertising her "services"
She also has a facebook under the name julia edwords.

Doxinge
03-07-2011, 09:07 PM
First of all, you need to tell us where you have commissioned her otherwise nothing can be done. We would appreciate it if you told us, because you've probably somehow bought from a scammer.

Update: she has adeviantart site under the name xuljia, where she is also.advertising her "services"
She also has a facebook under the name julia edwords.

However, if you believe you have the right person (which I solely don't think you have):

I've already responded to and reported you on deviantart. You are mistakenly accusing the wrong person. We have not received any "orders" or money from you, nor is she even a member of this site. We do not appreciate you accusing her and using her real name on these posts. Julia has NEVER received ANY commissions from deviantart or here whatsoever (no one has money these days)!

If you can show us a copy of your statements and some evidence that you paid for this I'll personally see it resolved but I highly doubt you can because she is not this "xul_san" person you're talking about. Feel free to send an email to doxinge@hotmail.com with screenshots and all other evidence of the transaction and I will deal with my fiancee that you are accusing.

But right now you are lying and spreading rumors about the wrong person. No one appreciates that "Micha", "Keeba", or whatever your name is.

Xuljia IS NOT "xul_san"

LoliLovely is right.

My fiancee Xuljia is not xul_san!

http://www.cosplay.com/showthread.php?t=235609

We have had recent identity theft problems.

Do NOT buy anything from me unless you contact me on deviantart. I do not make costumes, that would be my fiancee. I only draw pictures and I will not ask you for money until after the sample is done.

Do NOT buy anything from her unless you contact her on deviantart (her user name is Xuljia, she has no alternatives and no other sites) and do not pay anyone unless you see the name Julia Edwords in their paypal account. She is not Xul_San on cosplay.com or any other alternatives who are using her cosplay pictures without permission and stealing her identity. Report those people at once.

If you do need more proper identification we have webcams for a reason. Use them fools and quit throwing your money away to impersonators!

I'm the guy cosplaying Tidus in one of her most recent pictures on deviantart if you're wondering. We figure one of her exes is probably jealous of our success as a couple and are trying to get back at her.

And thank you for letting us know about this scam artist named Xul-San.



Edit: Further information after numerous deep searches, Xul-San is apparently a female named Sue Andrews and not my fiancee Julia Edwords.

http://4chan.chan4chan.com/cgl/res/4210698

Yui
03-07-2011, 11:53 PM
Okay first, Doxinge, does your fiancee have a different account on cosplay.com at all?

Also, to those that have contacted "xul_san" = have you done so on this site?
I have noticed that this user has only uploaded 5 photos and has never posted in the forums - thus does not meet the minimum requirements to make use of the Marketplace here. So...has this been via private messages or...?

angelbabycakes
03-08-2011, 01:06 AM
First of all, you need to tell us where you have commissioned her otherwise nothing can be done. We would appreciate it if you told us, because you've probably somehow bought from a scammer.



However, if you believe you have the right person (which I solely don't think you have):

I've already responded to and reported you on deviantart. You are mistakenly accusing the wrong person. We have not received any "orders" or money from you, nor is she even a member of this site. We do not appreciate you accusing her and using her real name on these posts. Julia has NEVER received ANY commissions from deviantart or here whatsoever (no one has money these days)!

If you can show us a copy of your statements and some evidence that you paid for this I'll personally see it resolved but I highly doubt you can because she is not this "xul_san" person you're talking about. Feel free to send an email to doxinge@hotmail.com with screenshots and all other evidence of the transaction and I will deal with my fiancee that you are accusing.

But right now you are lying and spreading rumors about the wrong person. No one appreciates that "Micha", "Keeba", or whatever your name is.

Xuljia IS NOT "xul_san"

Whoa whoa whoa...I understand you're upset, but it is not this customer's fault if someone has provided false information. Sadly, it is a really easy thing to do these days. This scammer must have found your fiancee and stolen her pictures, obviously, to try to make some money for nothing. Keeba is not trying to be rude to you or your fiancee or disrespect either of you in any way. There's no need to sound and be so hostile with people...especially if either of you are hoping for any commissions. You should treat potential customers and other people with the respect you would like to deserve yourself, especially from a business point of view. I do understand how damaging this can be, but Keeba is not to blame. This scammer is.

Keebablue
03-08-2011, 02:12 AM
Thats an awful big coincidence considering she shares almost the EXACT same name and shares the EXACT same pictures on here and deviantart. I can assure you, I have pages of evidence that I have paid. If it isnt her, she should remove or report stolen pics/ work because im sure imnot the only one who could/may come to this conclusion. I didnt just randomly pickher out of a hat; these factors point strongly to her being the scammer. I dont mean to wrongly accuse, im jusy tryinv to getting my friggin money back which, btw I have been entirrely unsuccessful in doing. Neither my bank nor.paypal will refund my money. So she got away with mine. Fml.

Doxinge
03-08-2011, 02:37 AM
Thats an awful big coincidence considering she shares almost the EXACT same name and shares the EXACT same pictures on here and deviantart. I can assure you, I have pages of evidence that I have paid. If it isnt her, she should remove or report stolen pics/ work because im sure imnot the only one who could/may come to this conclusion. I didnt just randomly pickher out of a hat; these factors point strongly to her being the scammer. I dont mean to wrongly accuse, im jusy tryinv to getting my friggin money back which, btw I have been entirrely unsuccessful in doing. Neither my bank nor.paypal will refund my money. So she got away with mine. Fml.

1. No. My fiancee does not have a cosplay.com account.

Just because the scammer copied part of my fiancee's screen name doesn't mean it's the same person. See the logic behind our names is that my real name is Gideon, so my alias is Doxinge, aka gideon + x. Hers is Julia, so her alias is Xuljia, Julia+x. For her to be "xul" makes no sense. She did not even like the name that I came up with for her to be honest, she wanted to be something Yuna hence her deviantart avatar. But anyway.

Look, I'm just trying to help you out. If there's someone pretending to be my fiancee and scamming, then it's identity theft. People have taken her pictures and we have already had to handle this theft on ebay once. Report Xul-San and take all of your evidence to paypal etc, but I can assure you that if you did not pay a Julia Edwords she did not receive the money.

Another thing, Julia did not start cosplaying "because of her father" like the poser is claiming. She started cosplaying because she likes dressing up and being someone other than herself, and she loves anime a lot and she enjoys creating things. This Xul-San person is not her.

Julia's father does not even like anime. He works for a humanist association and he is an extremely boring man. Xul-San is a complete scammer and I would obviously know because I'm marrying the real Julia Edwords.

If you could provide me with your evidence that would be great because maybe we can work together on getting your money back from the scammer? It's one thing if you accidentally donate money to a scammer, it's another if someone scams you due to identity theft.

And to others, can you blame me for being upset? My fiancee's reputation is on the line, we have little to no money (I'm wearing a magnetic hematite engagement ring worth $5) we live with our parents in separate houses and no one will hire us. Her costume making is one of the only ways she makes money so why would she ever want her reputation tarnished? Someone's attacking us. I wish you could see that.

I would like to know the name of the paypal email you bought from, and the individual's name you bought from, etcetera.

Edit: I've already personally reported Xul-San and taken measures to protect her pictures since this isn't the first time this has happened. She's a small time seamstress so we never would have expected someone to scam people with her identity.

And about the hostility, the huge wall of text was prior to my finding out what the situation was so I regret jumping the gun but you (Keeba) do seem intent on blaming my fiancee for something she has not done.

To make matters even more confusing, the only costumes I have ever seen her work on were costumes from classic animes (such as Tenchi), Final Fantasy/Kingdom Hearts or Sailor Moon so I have no idea who this "Luce" is unless you meant Lucy from Elfen Lied which in that case why not buy a shirt and some shorts from walmart or something? o_O Sure would prevent you from getting scammed online and be a lot cheaper..

kiratsukai
03-08-2011, 02:41 AM
Dude, Assuming this is legit, you're not doing your fiancee any favors by freaking out or posting digs at strangers.

Has your fiancee sent a calmly written email from her own account or her own email address explaining the situation? It's easy enough to check an IP address or tell if someone you're corresponding with isn't the same person you've corresponded with all along. If she can't clear her own name herself through a direct communication, something is afoot.

If she can ~ I know very few resonable people who wouldn't be willing to listen to a nice, thoughtful email from someone who isn't panicking or accusing them about a bad transaction offering them more relevant information toward a solution. Even if that information is that they've got the wrong girl.

That said: I do think that sharing people's real names with intent to ruin their reputations or heap hate on them (deserved or not) is uncalled for. Cosplay is not more important than anyone's right to privacy. Even if someone has been an utter dick to you, it's still not cool to give their private information to others on forums anyone can easily access ~ that goes for phone numbers, addresses, personal emails, and real names. If someone is struggling to find someone and you know how, send them a PM with that information... By all means share that information with authorities and pursue legitimate ways of recovering your money. But handling others' information in a way you'd not want your own handled is just irresponsible.

Thats an awful big coincidence considering she shares almost the EXACT same name and shares the EXACT same pictures on here and deviantart.

...You DO realize that any self-respecting con-artist knows that the best way to impersonate someone is by using their images and a similar username without making it apparent to the person in question that they've had any theft take place at all.

Good cosplayers and artists get their work stolen and their names used by strangers all the time... seriously... ALL THE TIME. Most people never notice. But then again, most people don't patrol the web googling themselves and variations on their own screen names every few days.

This wouldn't be the first scammer posing as a well-known cosplayer with a carbon-copy name and account to use fake pictures to sell fake items and collect money before heading for the hills.

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Stay classy, coscom.

Doxinge
03-08-2011, 02:55 AM
Dude, Assuming this is legit, you're not doing your fiancee any favors by freaking out.

Have your fiancee send a calmly written email from her own account or her own email address explaining the situation. It's easy enough to check an IP address or tell if someone you're corresponding with isn't the same person you've corresponded with all along. If she can't clear her own name herself through a direct communication, something is afoot.

That said: I do think that sharing people's real names with intent to ruin their reputations or heap hate on them (deserved or not) is uncalled for. Cosplay is not more important than anyone's right to privacy. Even if someone has been an utter dick to you, it's not within your right to publicize their private information to others on forums anyone can easily access ~ that goes for phone numbers, addresses, personal emails, and real names. If someone is struggling to find someone and you know how, send them a PM with that information... By all means share that information with authorities and pursue legitimate ways of recovering your money. But handling others' information in a way you'd not want your own handled is just irresponsible.


Stay classy, coscom.

I know you're saying I'm not doing her any favors but neither are her aggressors, which is why I help her when she's upset that people are falsely accusing her. By the way we're just assuming the other girl's name because someone (probably from here) posted it on another site.. so we don't actually know the other girl's name until Keeba tells us the paypal or whatever who they bought the costume from. -_- Just send me a PM or an email or something.

Good idea with the IP thing but who should she send it to so she can resolve this? If I knew that I would gladly tell her and go to bed since it's like 2:55 AM.. lol.

angelbabycakes
03-08-2011, 03:00 AM
Dude, Assuming this is legit, you're not doing your fiancee any favors by freaking out.

Have your fiancee send a calmly written email from her own account or her own email address explaining the situation. It's easy enough to check an IP address or tell if someone you're corresponding with isn't the same person you've corresponded with all along. If she can't clear her own name herself through a direct communication, something is afoot.

If she can ~ I know very few resonable people who wouldn't be willing to listen to a nice, thoughtful email from someone who isn't panicking or accusing them about a bad transaction offering them more relevant information toward a solution. Even if that information is that they've got the wrong girl.

That said: I do think that sharing people's real names with intent to ruin their reputations or heap hate on them (deserved or not) is uncalled for. Cosplay is not more important than anyone's right to privacy. Even if someone has been an utter dick to you, it's still not cool to give their private information to others on forums anyone can easily access ~ that goes for phone numbers, addresses, personal emails, and real names. If someone is struggling to find someone and you know how, send them a PM with that information... By all means share that information with authorities and pursue legitimate ways of recovering your money. But handling others' information in a way you'd not want your own handled is just irresponsible.

Stay classy, coscom.

This is so true! Everything. I was scammed and I handled the matter through e-mails and PMs. I sure did have people help out that were scammed as well, but we did it through PMs and other forms of private information.

http://www.cosplay.com/showthread.php?t=214178&page=9 Scroll down to the middle of the page...this person asked about this particular commissioner and people responded with a few posts...and several others piped in about quotes from this supposed commissioner as well. So whomever this person is, is obviously sending PM's to people asking for commissions in the marketplace. Please remember, if no one responds with any sort of information about a commissioner, chances are, you should probably steer clear.

Doxinge
03-08-2011, 03:12 AM
This is so true! Everything. I was scammed and I handled the matter through e-mails and PMs. I sure did have people help out that were scammed as well, but we did it through PMs and other forms of private information.

http://www.cosplay.com/showthread.php?t=214178&page=9 Scroll down to the middle of the page...this person asked about this particular commissioner and people responded with a few posts...and several others piped in about quotes from this supposed commissioner as well. So whomever this person is, is obviously sending PM's to people asking for commissions in the marketplace. Please remember, if no one responds with any sort of information about a commissioner, chances are, you should probably steer clear.

Ah so that name was posted here too..

But by the way.. Julia does have an ID showing that she is the real thing.. why does everyone think she's someone named Sue? o_O Can you even get money from paypal by using a fake name? Wouldn't it have to say Julia Edwords on her paypal or what? I don't even know how that sorta thing works..

Not to offend anybody here but my ex's name is Suzy.. I would kill myself if I was marrying a Sue right now.. x_X I know you can't take my word for it but I honestly don't know what other proof people want. ID, webcam, emails, recent pics, explanations.. I really need a beer and some sleeping pills.


http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa314/Doxinge/gods.jpg

See, I know the real one.

Doxinge
03-08-2011, 03:24 AM
Edit: I don't even like this forum no offense.. this delayed post thing is getting on my nerves because I keep thinking it's lagging or something.. how do I remove double posts? lol

Oh well I'll just use this post to respond to Kiratsukai below.

Thanks for the advice.

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kiratsukai
03-08-2011, 03:27 AM
Calm down man. Get to bed.

It'll all seem so much better in the morning :P

Then you can have her get on the computer and handle this mess herself.

angelbabycakes
03-08-2011, 03:33 AM
Ah so that name was posted here too..

But by the way.. Julia does have an ID showing that she is the real thing.. why does everyone think she's someone named Sue? o_O Can you even get money from paypal by using a fake name? Wouldn't it have to say Julia Edwords on her paypal or what? I don't even know how that sorta thing works..

Not to offend anybody here but my ex's name is Suzy.. I would kill myself if I was marrying a Sue right now.. x_X I know you can't take my word for it but I honestly don't know what other proof people want. ID, webcam, emails, recent pics, explanations.. I really need a beer and some sleeping pills.


http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa314/Doxinge/gods.jpg

See, I know the real one.

As for PayPal, your name could be pretty much anything...as long as it's linked to a bank account. This person hasn't stolen your fiancee's real name, just photos online, so PayPal would never know. This person isn't using your fiance's name, she seems to be using her own, which would make sense with how PayPal transactions are able to go through.

And sadly, anyone can take a photo and claim they know someone... that's not much proof. Usually, to prove it is the person makes a sort of sign where the person holds a piece of paper and writes their username on it, though it has now become easy to photoshop even that, so I'd go for writing it on a hand or something else. That being said, I'm not sure that would help you at all on this particular site. Just have admin or whatnot check the IP address of your claim and hopefully, they can ban the person for a fake account.

Yui
03-08-2011, 03:45 AM
Keebablue, I suggest that you prepare further details to compare with Doxinge - you guys don't need to share this publicly in the forums of course.
You may, indeed, be out of luck this time. If you responded to a solicitation through a private message (and you did not report the suspicious activity at the time) - this goes against our Marketplace safety tips to not accept any offers from new users who have not established themselves as members of our community yet.

And Doxinge, after you've gotten some rest, please let us know what you need here. You don't have all your information researched (i.e. concerning how Paypal works) and you are going off on strange personal tangents, so it's a bit hard to follow.
We can investigate the claim that "xul-san" is not the same person as xuljia, but we need her to contact us herself. With her not being a member of cosplay.com herself, this makes matters a bit more difficult, but we certainly take impersonation as a serious offense here (and that goes for even just people claiming photos not of their own, not to mention scamming.)

That being said, we can't assist with any repercussions that happen off-site, only work to prevent it happening here in the future.

Doxinge
03-08-2011, 03:50 AM
As for PayPal, your name could be pretty much anything...as long as it's linked to a bank account. This person hasn't stolen your fiancee's real name, just photos online, so PayPal would never know. This person isn't using your fiance's name, she seems to be using her own, which would make sense with how PayPal transactions are able to go through.

And sadly, anyone can take a photo and claim they know someone... that's not much proof. Usually, to prove it is the person a sort of sign is made where the person holds a piece of paper and writes their username on it, though it has now become easy to photoshop even that, so I'd go for writing it on a hand or something else. That being said, I'm not sure that would help you at all on this particular site. Just have admin or whatnot check the IP address of your claim and hopefully, they can ban the person for a fake account.

True, very true. Well I told her to create an account so that she can send the admin her ID or something and resolve this once and for all. I'm letting the admin deal with the rest of it, such as IP tracking and whatnot. I wish the people scammed could get their money back even though we had no hand in this, because that's just not right. Well good luck everyone, sorry for stinkin' up your forum with issues. Goodnight.

Edit: And Yui, thank you.

Xuljia
03-08-2011, 04:07 AM
I am Julia Edwords. I am the person in the pictures that are being used by someone named Xul_san. I will give you all the information you need proving this scammer is not me.

Keebablue
03-08-2011, 11:07 AM
I apologizr to both of you then. I meant NO offense whatsoever to an innocent party, but from where I am standing she looked very good for the "crime" per say. Id be more than happy through PM to share what info I have on this chick to try and perhaps at least FIND her or at least stop her from stealing from other people. That was my only intention from the beginning. I really dont want to see other people scammed. Gettting your hard earned money stolen feels like doggy-doo.:dunce:
(Luce is a pregnant character from "katekyo hitman reborn, BTW. :)

Doxinge
03-08-2011, 04:15 PM
I apologizr to both of you then. I meant NO offense whatsoever to an innocent party, but from where I am standing she looked very good for the "crime" per say. Id be more than happy through PM to share what info I have on this chick to try and perhaps at least FIND her or at least stop her from stealing from other people. That was my only intention from the beginning. I really dont want to see other people scammed. Gettting your hard earned money stolen feels like doggy-doo.:dunce:
(Luce is a pregnant character from "katekyo hitman reborn, BTW. :)

I apologize as well for being so aggressive on a lack of sleep, I get super cranky at night. I know what it feels like to be ripped off and we'd like to prevent this sort of thing from ever happening again so we'll be watermarking our images and probably coming up with a better system that people can't abuse. Even though it was upsetting at first, thanks for letting us know in a way. Without you we probably would never have known about this scammer.

I mean I'm extra upset at Xul-San and people that steal our images because I'm not just Julia's fiancee but I'm her photographer and photo manipulator sometimes as well, so it's like they're not only tarnishing her reputation but they're stealing from us both... I'll PM you with some of my other contact information.

Edit: I dunno why I didn't post this before, but this is kind of an ID for her. http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/edwords

Xuljia
03-08-2011, 04:53 PM
When you say I looked very good for the "crime". That offends me in so many ways it's not even funny. Not to be mean, but how dare you. And on top of that thinking I was using a fake name. I have released a cd out and you can clearly see the copyright on it. If you had stopped and looked at my Deviantart and Facebook more closely you would have caught that. Then you wouldn't of started accusing me for your mistake. All I want is for Xul_san's profile to be deleted immediately!!!! My reputation has already been tarnished. Please remove everything!!!! Why is it taking so long?! I already sent messages and emails. Don't leave scammers on here!!!!

kiratsukai
03-08-2011, 05:27 PM
*head desk*

Alright. Proof fail.

In order to prove that one is innocent of wrongdoing, one must generally produce evidence relevant to the incident in question. Photos of oneself (that match photos purportedly stolen in the incident), having a fiancee, or releasing a CD are all things that prove nothing remotely relevant. Or could someone who actually took this chick's money not possibly have released a self-recorded cd or gotten herself a boyfriend? It's also entirely possible that one's family, friends and yes... even fiancee, would be totally unaware of something like scamming. That isn't the sort of thing folks generally share proudly with their loved ones.

Actually helpful: personal communication, IP addresses, reviews of positive non-scam transactions completed in the same time period by Julia (since she is also advertising comissions), testimonial of real customers, information about the state of residence (to compare with the location from which the package was shipped), a paypal account name (to compare with the account used)...

Xuljia
03-08-2011, 06:21 PM
Think and say whatever you want. That doesn't make it right or true. I recently put all of the websites I'm on up on my Deviantart. One of the things you will see is my Ebay account. So if you didn't buy anything from julia610000 on Ebay, or from Julia Edwords through PayPal, or from my business email Gorillaz984@aol.com. You have the wrong person. I know who I am. I'm not this scammer Sue Andrews. And I have the ID to prove it. I sent a personal message to you Yui telling you about this issue. I also sent an email to admin. I hope something gets done about this soon. Cause I'm sick and tired of people like Keebablue still thinking I'm the scammer Xul_san no matter what I say or prove.

Doxinge
03-08-2011, 06:54 PM
*head desk*

Alright. Proof fail.

In order to prove that one is innocent of wrongdoing, one must generally produce evidence relevant to the incident in question. Photos of oneself (that match photos purportedly stolen in the incident), having a fiancee, or releasing a CD are all things that prove nothing remotely relevant. Or could someone who actually took this chick's money not possibly have released a self-recorded cd or gotten herself a boyfriend? It's also entirely possible that one's family, friends and yes... even fiancee, would be totally unaware of something like scamming. That isn't the sort of thing folks generally share proudly with their loved ones.

Actually helpful: personal communication, IP addresses, reviews of positive non-scam transactions completed in the same time period by Julia (since she is also advertising comissions), testimonial of real customers, information about the state of residence (to compare with the location from which the package was shipped), a paypal account name (to compare with the account used)...

Well she receives money as Julia Edwords and only that on her paypal account which she'll have to post.

But to be honest it's kind of hard to defend yourself against a random accusation.. Keebablue said she had evidence but we haven't seen that so unfortunately there's no evidence of wrongdoing (such as a paypal transaction showing who Keebablue bought from in the first place) posted in this thread.. and the only thing we can do right now is ask for Xul-San to be banned, or at least the pictures that she/he is using to be removed or something.. It's not like it's a money issue for us because, obviously, we aren't the scammers so please take them to court or send ninja assassins to their address and take care of them because it's not us. We can't even PM Xul-San to get them to defend against other accusations because their inbox is full or something.. so that's automatically subject to suspicion imho.

In a way, we too have been scammed by Xul-San because they're faking the person I love's identity.. We have clear evidence that Julia Edwords is Julia Edwords and not Sue Andrews, no name changes or otherwise, in the form of her ID and other publishings. Obviously we own the rights to our own images because they are us.

I don't blame Keebablue for being upset because they were scammed by Xul-San so this isn't about us trying to show Keeba that Julia isn't Xul-San anymore, this is about stopping Xul-San and others from scamming more people with false representations of us.

On a side note though, this is her father:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Edwords

Does he look like an anime fan? lol

Keebablue
03-08-2011, 07:07 PM
The paypal addy I made payment to was flamingdia@yahoo.com, name sue andrews according to paypal.

Yui
03-08-2011, 07:14 PM
Well, anyway folks, the administration did ban xul_san from this site, and we'll all keep an eye out for future related scams here. Thanks for bringing it to our attention, though and good luck tracking down issues elsewhere.

Yuki3385
03-09-2011, 09:11 PM
yea hi, just wondering if anyone knew anything about a user on her named Xul-san cause they were going to commission me a cosplay and i sent them a down payment and then never heard from them and now i see on here their account is apparently banned. Anyone know about this person and what i should do?

sam vimes
03-09-2011, 09:16 PM
Hate to say it, but you may have been scammed.

Yuki3385
03-09-2011, 09:18 PM
ah damn well if thats the case at least i didn't dish out a whole lot... 'tis the second time this has happened to me :/

glitter bomb
03-09-2011, 09:21 PM
If you paid through paypal you can request a refund through them. they have a procedure for people who have paid funds but did not receive the goods, allowing the funds to be reversed. if you paid via a credit card you can contact the provider to try to do the same.

Yui
03-10-2011, 12:01 AM
Sorry to say that you most likely were. Xul-san was recently investigated and banned from this site for impersonating another legitimate cosplay commissioner.

More info is here = http://www.cosplay.com/showthread.php?t=234068

Yuki3385
03-10-2011, 12:05 AM
@glitter_bomb: I did try that yes, but paypal told me i was not eligable and i do not own a credit card or bank account so i used a gift card.

@yui: a friend of mine showed me the thread you have posted, it shames me that this happened to me. but alas i must move forward

Missha
03-10-2011, 12:14 AM
If you need a commissioner, go to the review thread :)
I've found awesome people through there.
And they all have reviews A-F, and I'll only go with people with A's, as I feel safer with a lot of positive feedback. :D

Hope that helps and sorry this happened! ;-;