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Kazakun
05-14-2011, 08:45 PM
I expected more maturity here, but unfortunately I'll have to turn to actual cosplayers, not people in a forum who can be both cruel and divisive. Thanks to the few people who actually tried to give constructive critique.


Edit: I'm just looking for critique like: "I like the lighting" "His Pose Isn't accurate" "That reminds me of RE5 Boss fight". "u r stupid iz jealous" isnt a critique you're just being a douche.[/B]

You don't HAVE TO BE A PHOTOGRAPHER to know if something looks good. I want regular people's opinions, not Cantankerous people, not photographers (sorry guys maybe next time) There are enough photo forums for photographers who only like to critique eachother's work, I like cosplayers to give me their viewpoint, as I am NOT one and it's something that I can learn from.

I AM a photographer, and it doesn't help me to have more photograper's perspective right now.

While I want critique of the image, I won't stand for insults, whether it's against me or the model.

Thanks in advance to those of you who take the time to honestly comment on this without attacking me personally.

P.S. to the mods, thanks for not reading my intent before you moved the thread. It seems strange how most people here don't read full posts before reacting to them.

totorolover
05-14-2011, 10:03 PM
erm. . . i think you need to post this under costume critique.

ARIADecember
05-14-2011, 10:06 PM
erm. . . i think you need to post this under costume critique.

^^^^^^^
this

sploosh
05-14-2011, 10:42 PM
I think that this is the thread that you want:

Photo Critique (http://www.cosplay.com/forumdisplay.php?f=165)
Sorry if it's a bit low traffic.

But I think that it looks good! I'm not a photographer, though. :)

Kazakun
05-15-2011, 12:50 AM
I think that this is the thread that you want:

Photo Critique (http://www.cosplay.com/forumdisplay.php?f=165)
Sorry if it's a bit low traffic.

But I think that it looks good! I'm not a photographer, though. :)


Thank you sploosh =).

It's a photo I've taken, which is why I'm asking for criticism, I haven't made any cosplays yet, I'm not skilled enough to make a good one.

I didn't post in the photography forum, because to be honest, I don't care what other photographers think about cosplays, I want to know what you guys think. The fans and skilled cosplayers.

You're the people who count for me whether it's good or not ;P.

RickyFromVegas
05-15-2011, 12:54 AM
It's a photo I've taken :P

I didn't post there because to be honest, I don't care what photographers think about cosplays, I want to know what you guys think. You're the people who count whether it's good or not ;P.

This could not be any more wrong.
While cosplayers work their best making their costume look great and pose perfect, it's the photographers make or break the shot.

If this is a shot you've taken, I'm guessing you're a photographer yourself.
To me, what you're looking for isn't criticism, but a praise.
If you really wanted criticism of a PHOTO you've taken as a photographer, why wouldn't you seek advice and criticism from more EXPERIENCED con photographers? The photographers here have dealt with many Cosplay Photoshoots and it would be unwise not to seek their comments.

Taliesiin
05-15-2011, 12:59 AM
This could not be any more wrong.
While cosplayers work their best making their costume look great and pose perfect, it's the photographers make or break the shot.

If this is a shot you've taken, I'm guessing you're a photographer yourself.
To me, what you're looking for isn't criticism, but a praise.
If you really wanted criticism a PHOTO you've taken as a photographer, why wouldn't you seek advice and criticism from more EXPERIENCED con photographers? The photographers here have dealt with many Cosplay Photoshoots and it would be unwise not to seek their comments.

QFT.

I can't really critique mediums I know little to nothing about.

Kazakun
05-15-2011, 01:11 AM
If this is a shot you've taken, I'm guessing you're a photographer yourself.

Great Guess! Wouldn't you know I've pretty much stated that. I'm glad to see that someone who is angry I didn't ask for his opinion read my whole post before leaving a bitter comment ;P

If you really wanted criticism of a PHOTO you've taken as a photographer,

why wouldn't you seek advice and criticism from more EXPERIENCED con photographers?

I already explained, I don't want photographer's opinions, if I did, I would have asked in the photography forum, (or a forum with professional photographers, not a group of mostly amateurs) thanks for not actually reading my post.

The photographers here have dealt with many Cosplay Photoshoots and it would be unwise not to seek their comments.


It sounds like you are mad that I don't hold your opinions in high regard, and that I don't come to you first, please don't be hurt personally that I don't want your opinion and in this case am asking other cosplayers instead of yourself.

So, clearly you are mad that someone didn't want your opinion on a photo.

Not that I haven't seen your gallery, I just prefer seeing what people who "cosplay" often actually think. Unlike elitists like you who have the belief that only photographers can tell if something is art or not.

You probably have similar views about any nudity.

Of course, if you want to say here that most cosplayers have no taste in photography and therefore I have to get *your* opinion, feel free to do so. It won't make me value your opinion any higher than people who actually cosplay themselves without being cantankerous towards anyone who asks for help; and deserve a say in what looks good or not.


I can't really critique mediums I know little to nothing about.
Thats the biggest nonsense I've ever heard.

You don't need to be a racecar driver to know if someone's a skilled racer.

You don't need to be a Politician to tell if someone is skilled at politics.

You don't need to be a Cook to tell if food tastes good.

It is no different for photography, anyone who thinks otherwise is misinformed and just plain wrong.

Edit: I'm not feeding you anymore. Go bother someone else you piece of work.

RickyFromVegas
05-15-2011, 01:14 AM
A few things you're wrong about.
I'm a Cosplayer. Not a photographer. It is true that while I do practice photography, I'm a Cosplayer before a Photographer.

And I've nothing more to add to feed your ego.

I'm so glad to see a photographer who's rejecting criticism, seeking criticism.
Not to mention you're calling others out like this.

Kazakun
05-15-2011, 01:25 AM
. . you're wrong . .

. . . I've nothing . ..

I'm so glad to see . . . criticism, . . . criticism.
. . you're . . ..

A few things *you're* wrong about:

I didn't call you a photographer, I said you're a CANTANKEROUS cosplayer.

Wow, someone is butthurt that his opinion wasn't solicited.

I didn't actually reject criticism for my photo, just your elitist views that only photographers are allowed to critique art, what a limited world view you have guy.

I guess you think only politicians should be able to decide elections.

Or perhaps only F1 drivers should be allowed to drive cars.

It takes balls to put art on display and just ask for opinions on the internet, clearly you are one of those people who ruins the internet for everyone, so get out of here with *Your* tremendous ego.

By the way, you didn't even offer any critique, so go and troll someone else.

Squeaker-Ed
05-15-2011, 01:56 AM
I'll be honest and say: It looks fine to me.

I will also be honest and say: I don't really care if you think my comment's crap; I gave my two-cents, and that's all that was asked for. But I also think it not wise to take up an argument against someone one else.

So please drop the attitude before things get out of hands. Really.

Kazakun
05-15-2011, 02:03 AM
I don't really care if you think my comment's crap;


I didn't say your comment is crap . . . .

But thanks for being one of 3 people who actually read my post before they commented on it :P.

Squeaker-Ed
05-15-2011, 02:09 AM
I didn't say your comment is crap . . . .

But thanks for being one of 3 people who actually read my post before they commented on it :P.

You're welcome, even though I'm not much in knowledge of photography.

But, a little bit of advice on your threads: the next time a possible argument is on the horizon, don't take up arms against it. It can scare off other users.

Kazakun
05-15-2011, 02:11 AM
You're welcome, even though I'm not much in knowledge of photography.


I think not having knowledge of photography isn't a detriment. You have knowledge of cosplay and I'm sure at least a few people on here have knowledge of RE4/5. That's why I ask cosplayers instead of photographers. If I want to get a photographer's opinion I can ask my friends (and I do).

I just want to know what you guys think.

Squeaker-Ed
05-15-2011, 02:22 AM
I think not having knowledge of photography isn't a detriment. You have knowledge of cosplay and I'm sure at least a few people on here have knowledge of RE4/5. That's why I ask cosplayers instead of photographers. If I want to get a photographer's opinion I can ask my friends (and I do).

I just want to know what you guys think.

It's not, but it helps to have some experience in it, naturally.

Of course, you've stated that already. That's why you need to take whatever comments made, unless they're blatantly jack-ass-based, in stride and work from that. Besides, while photographers can make or break the shot, it's actually a balanced act between the cosplayer and the photographer: To really pull off the beauty, the cosplayer should be comfortable in a pose that suits them and the character, and the photographer should find an angle that suits the cosplayer's best features and the environment. (If that makes sense.)

danielvutran
05-15-2011, 02:28 AM
Wait, so you're asking about the costume details and not the photo details? I read your OP but read the rest of the thread too and I'm a little confused. Do you want critique on the cosplay, or the photo. Or both. But critique by only other cosplayers and non-photographers. ???

Anywho, I got some critique about both the cosplay and photography.

Cosplay wise - the sunglasses look too modern for the badassery of the char

Photography wise - lighting does not match the char

that is all.

Kazakun
05-15-2011, 02:35 AM
Wait, so you're asking about the costume details and not the photo details? I read your OP but read the rest of the thread too and I'm a little confused. Do you want critique on the cosplay, or the photo. Or both. But critique by only other cosplayers and non-photographers. ???

Anywho, I got some critique about both the cosplay and photography.

Cosplay wise - the sunglasses look too modern for the badassery of the char

Photography wise - lighting does not match the char

that is all.

Thanks Dan, that's all I was asking for.

Mizuki Kazakaru
05-15-2011, 03:56 AM
I agree, the glasses don't suit him. Also... is that a con badge I spy? Personally as a cosplayer who loves to look at other's photos, I find that a wayward con badge in a professional looking photo is just tacky. It totally distracts from everything else. Try and catch these things next time you take photos of people. c:

The lighting also doesn't compliment the cosplayer, as someone else said. Wesker is a dark and wicked bamf. It would have been cooler if you worked with that. I understand that it may be hard in a con setting, but just food for thought.

Eau de Decus
05-15-2011, 04:16 AM
Convention badge. Lose it with quickness.

Kiichigo
05-15-2011, 04:26 AM
Kazekun - no matter WHO you want critique from, this is still the wrong place for this thread. Cosplayers go to the photography section too, so ask there. Holding on to your right to post here, along with your ''attack'' on Ricky, is disrespectful to the site and its rules.

kiratsukai
05-15-2011, 04:32 AM
*popcorn*

Taliesiin
05-15-2011, 05:47 AM
Thats the biggest nonsense I've ever heard.

You don't need to be a racecar driver to know if someone's a skilled racer.

You don't need to be a Politician to tell if someone is skilled at politics.

You don't need to be a Cook to tell if food tastes good.

It is no different for photography, anyone who thinks otherwise is misinformed and just plain wrong.


I'm not saying I have to be a photographer, but I no absolutely nothing about photography. I'm not a musician either, but I've studied it to a point of understanding and I could give you critique on a track.

Racing is cut and dry. Whoever finished it first wins. It's not an art to be critiqued.
I've studied politics. Someone who knows nothing about politics really wouldn't be able to tell you how immoral the things this or that administration has done.
I might be able to tell if something taste good, but if something taste bad I couldn't give you the first idea on how to make it better.

I know nothing about photography. I can't tell you if your lighting was great. I can't tell you if your lens choice or angle were good. I can't tell you if you editing helped or hindered your work. Actually, I can't tell if you edited anything at all. All I can say is "Ohh pretty picture!", which is not something that is going to be very useful to you at all.

danielvutran
05-15-2011, 05:52 AM
Thanks Dan, that's all I was asking for.

np bro (>._.)>

Scorpion89
05-15-2011, 06:34 AM
Well first off your in the wrong section as many have stated this should have been put in the photographers section.

Now before you start in on me Sir I'm a Pro Photographer and a Cosplayer who is old enough to be your father so take that under advice before you make any dumb comments.

So as for the actual photo it's alright the White and Gray Balance look decent I would have to see your Exif information to see what your speed was. It looks like you were using a decent lens. All and all it's an okay photo but with htat said here are some stuff I would have done differently first I would have found a better location shooting in the middle of a hall doesn't make the character pop out that well I would have gone for a natural background or urban background. The Badge has to be hidden tuck it in or take it off. As for the Glasses while they sort of work for me what detracts from them is the reflection in the right lens once again this is caused by your setting and the lighting tungsten light suck.

As for the costume for me it's to plain not sure what character your playing here it looks like you got dressed up to go to Sunday Lunch with your mother.

Oh and one other item I noticed in your photo and this is all about the location you used the first thing someones eyes is going to notice is the blurred white line. Over all like I said it's not a bad photo work on different locations and slight;y different lighting and it could be a good shot.

Angel Tear
05-15-2011, 08:36 AM
Might be worth posting a reference image as well so we don't have to go and google it. I'm only really familiar with one of Wesker's outfits, and this isn't it. Might be worth having a full body shot as well at some point, since we can only critique half of your costume from that.

Adlez
05-15-2011, 10:53 AM
I think because he has the sunglasses on, he should have had his face ever so slightly more towards the camera. Since you can't see his eyes, it looks like you just took a picture of someone walking down the street candidly and he's not engaging.

bubblesneverpop
05-15-2011, 11:09 AM
As I'm not familiar with the series, I can't critique the cosplay other then the con badge is in the picture...that takes away from the picture
Other then that the actual picture looks fine to me

Kazakun
05-15-2011, 12:30 PM
Well first off your in the wrong section as many have stated this should have been put in the photographers section.

Now before you start in on me Sir I'm a Pro Photographer and a Cosplayer who is old enough to be your father

1: you don't know how old I am, unless you're 80, I think you're just really skilled at blowing hot air.

2: You clearly didn't read my post, so please, get out of here, thanks "old man".

Btw, your photo of the moon was taken with a wide angle lens, just fyi you might want to pickup a 500 next time you try being all artsy with your $50 zoom.


As for the costume for me it's to plain not sure what character your playing here it looks like you got dressed up to go to Sunday Lunch with your mother.

I already stated that I won't take insults to the model, so get out of here you cantankerous piece of work.

.

I'm not interested in photo know it all help, I asked cosplayers, and you are clearly a douche.

I have never met a cosplayer who's as unlikable as yourself, but...

I will return your "kindness", since you are clearly overly jealous that your photography looks like crap, and you apparently think you are the master of something other than acting like a child.

Maybe you should upgrade your camera so it doesn't look like your pictures were taken by someone who doesn't understand basic exposure, on a point and shoot from 1999.

Kazakun
05-15-2011, 12:34 PM
I agree, the glasses don't suit him. Also... is that a con badge I spy? Personally as a cosplayer who loves to look at other's photos, I find that a wayward con badge in a professional looking photo is just tacky. It totally distracts from everything else. Try and catch these things next time you take photos of people. c:

The lighting also doesn't compliment the cosplayer, as someone else said. Wesker is a dark and wicked bamf. It would have been cooler if you worked with that. I understand that it may be hard in a con setting, but just food for thought.

I agree, although tbh wesker lighting is nearly impossible to have in a con hall unless you have thousands of dollars of lighting gear with you, and there is no light coming in through the windows.

I appreciate the comments though.

And for the con badge, of course ;P.

Thanks Mizuki.

Btw- awesome soldier cosplay ;P.

Convention badge. Lose it with quickness.

Fair enough. Thanks for the input Eau.

Kazekun - no matter WHO you want critique from, this is still the wrong place for this thread. Cosplayers go to the photography section too, so ask there.
Um, not really. The largest thread in the "photo forum" with all the cosplayers you're talking about is 50 posts. The largest thread here is 7,000. If you really want to tell me that the same amount of people visit the photography forum then I think you're sadly mistaken.

Holding on to your right to post here, along with your ''attack'' on Ricky, is disrespectful to the site and its rules.

I didn't "attack" anyone. If anything I was attacked, but ok.
It's clear that 1/3rd of you are angsty kids (plus the old man) and only like to tear other people down when they ask for help, congrats on being douches.

Thanks to the 2/3rds who arent complete douchebags and actually try to help.

Taliesiin;3943262
Racing is cut and dry. Whoever finished it first wins. It's not an art to be critiqued.

It's pretty simple, either you can say "sure that looks good", "the badge is out of place", "I like/dont like the lighting" like other people have done to help, or you can argue that it's not possible to give input because you're not a photographer.

What a silly arguement to have.

Might be worth posting a reference image as well so we don't have to go and google it. I'm only really familiar with one of Wesker's outfits, and this isn't it.

Thanks for the input Angel, I'll keep that in mind next time I'm posting a set.

Kazakun
05-15-2011, 12:42 PM
I think because he has the sunglasses on, he should have had his face ever so slightly more towards the camera. Since you can't see his eyes, it looks like you just took a picture of someone walking down the street candidly and he's not engaging.

Fair enough, thanks for the input Adlez.

pltshp
05-15-2011, 12:48 PM
Oh dear. This is a rather hostile thread, isn't it? You may want to stop launching personal attacks on people, Kazakun. Just a suggestion. Often, people don't like to be called douches and "old man" and such when they're only trying to offer advice and understand your position. Although kudos on the use of "cantankerous", it's one of my favourite words.

On the photo, I like it. I think the glasses are a little off and like Adlez said, maybe a little more attention on the camera would have been beneficial. And the lighting is maybe wrong, but as you said it's difficult to emulate the correct lighting for Wesker. But I do like the pose and he looks sufficiently badass, so thumbs up.

Kazakun
05-15-2011, 12:56 PM
Oh dear. This is a rather hostile thread, isn't it? You may want to stop launching personal attacks on people, Kazakun.

If you insult a model you don't even know, you can handle being called an old man.

If you want to attack anyone I work with, then you are clearly a douchebag because you don't even know the person. Don't even try to defend internet douchebaggery.

On the photo, I like it. I think the glasses are a little off and like Adlez said, maybe a little more attention on the camera would have been beneficial. And the lighting is maybe wrong, but as you said it's difficult to emulate the correct lighting for Wesker. But I do like the pose and he looks sufficiently badass, so thumbs up.

Thanks for the honest critique, it sucks that few people here are capable of that without flaming the model or complaining that they don't know what a good photo is.

Next time I'll try to afford some lighting gear, and ask him to use different glasses, thanks again Pltshp.

It's a good word isnt it. I sure bet old man doesn't know what it means.

Mikidachan
05-25-2011, 04:07 PM
First two seconds of looking at the picture, I was bored. Sorry bro.
Try to learn better composition, and work with your model to achieve it.

MiraThePanda
06-02-2011, 02:26 PM
It's not bad but it's kind of plain and really simple.. It might just be my opinion though.. I don't really like simple things but I'm sure with more practice your photography can end up amazing. :)

SteamedRice345
06-03-2011, 08:00 AM
The lighting is really good,the back ground is a bit blurry but I'm not sure if that's the purpose,nice work ^0^

Enko
06-04-2011, 10:58 PM
Photography wise, the first thing that jumped out was the badge.

As others said as well, with the angle taken, it looks like it could be a candid shot of someone passing by instead of a posed shot or someone looking at you thinking "why is he taking my picture".

The first time I saw this photo on one of the albums here, I thought it was pretty decent.

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m186/DarksSaber/898811UC_Wesker3.jpg

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m186/DarksSaber/resident-evil-after-life-posters2.jpg

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m186/DarksSaber/re_afterlife_wesker_hd_22_by_dragonkeeper333-d33ne04-1.jpg

Looked up some Wesker pics just so I had a reference.

Cosplay wise, I think it might be hard to place this character unless he was with a bunch of other RE cosplayers.

-Sefirosu-
06-04-2011, 10:58 PM
Really nice lighting in that picture.

scribbs
07-09-2011, 12:27 AM
I expected more maturity here, but unfortunately I'll have to turn to actual cosplayers, not people in a forum who can be both cruel and divisive. Thanks to the few people who actually tried to give constructive critique.


Edit: I'm just looking for critique like: "I like the lighting" "His Pose Isn't accurate" "That reminds me of RE5 Boss fight". "u r stupid iz jealous" isnt a critique you're just being a douche.[/B]

You don't HAVE TO BE A PHOTOGRAPHER to know if something looks good. I want regular people's opinions, not Cantankerous people, not photographers (sorry guys maybe next time) There are enough photo forums for photographers who only like to critique eachother's work, I like cosplayers to give me their viewpoint, as I am NOT one and it's something that I can learn from.

I AM a photographer, and it doesn't help me to have more photograper's perspective right now.

While I want critique of the image, I won't stand for insults, whether it's against me or the model.

Thanks in advance to those of you who take the time to honestly comment on this without attacking me personally.

P.S. to the mods, thanks for not reading my intent before you moved the thread. It seems strange how most people here don't read full posts before reacting to them.

Haha, I love how you are actively seeking out conflict by passively insulting others, then stating that you, yourself, will not stand to be insulted. Stop being a condescending butthurt child.

By the way, welcome to the internet.

Also, please stop trying to sound like you have a speck of intelligence by using your "vast" vocabulary as a defensive device for your lack of argumentative power. Srsly dawggggg, cause you got the convincing power of an crying 8 year old. T_T ;_; Q_Q

http://i51.tinypic.com/2cibock.jpg

This could not be any more wrong.
While cosplayers work their best making their costume look great and pose perfect, it's the photographers make or break the shot.

If this is a shot you've taken, I'm guessing you're a photographer yourself.
To me, what you're looking for isn't criticism, but a praise.
If you really wanted criticism of a PHOTO you've taken as a photographer, why wouldn't you seek advice and criticism from more EXPERIENCED con photographers? The photographers here have dealt with many Cosplay Photoshoots and it would be unwise not to seek their comments.

QFT

TykeJack
07-09-2011, 01:57 PM
Yeah, I agree with Ricky. This guy came on these critique forums looking for praise and not a critique. "Please look at my pictures and tell me how good they are and how great I am" were the actual verbatim words from his original post. It's fine if you want to inflate your epeen but you better have something to back it up and not some lackluster picture showing off photography skills of the common point and shoot consumer. If you want people to respect you and your work, then you need to respect others. Coming in here and telling photographers how little you value their opinion because they are egotistical elitists isn't a good way to foster positive feedback.

This forum was designed to help people who wanted to get better and we have done that many times, but before we can help you, you have to be willing to help yourself. I have yet to see anyone in this community rage on a person for a photo they listed for a critique until now. As I read through these posts it is clear that you instigated any and all raging because it was you trying to be the elitist. L2P kiddo.