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11-19-2003, 06:23 PM
I have my sights set on making this costume, but unfortunately it won't be for a few years. However, I just found out (by accident) about a pattern from the early 90s. I think it would make a great resource. It's butterick 6378.
Does anyone have this pattern who is willing to sell it to me, or can tell me where to get it? I have searched google for the past week and haven't found anything. Only place I have left to try is ebay.
I searched google using: butterick 6378, catwoman pattern, pattern 6378, sewing catwoman, catwoman costume pattern, and many more variations thereof. I thought I found one, but the site had already sold it (www.vintagesewingpatterns.com).
Any other hints?
I am not in the US, so I cannot go store hopping. It's got to be on the internet, unless someone can provide email or contact info for a store they suggest otherwise.
And to anyone who has made this costume, has advice, etc., I would love to see/hear how you did it!
11-19-2003, 08:05 PM
Aw, too bad I didn't know last weekend! JoAnns just had a big sale on Butterick. I'll keep an eye out though! ^^
One of the costume shops I worked at used this pattern as a basic leotard pattern. I've seen it so I can tell you, its not really that great.
I can imagine it would be easier and probably more acurate if you looked for a catsuit (pardon the pun) pattern. Thats all it really was. The details really weren't there. The hardest part will be the hood, but I've seen similiar things in other costume patterns if you keep checking. Since you have plenty of time, just keep looking and see what turns up.
11-20-2003, 09:49 PM
Thanks for the info. I figured I would use a catsuit pattern, as that is what I had planned before I saw it. It was mainly for the mask, really, so see how it was possible to sew. I know I have time to figure out something, but I thought I would throw the question out there anyway. Never know! But thanks again for the help. It's nice to know I am not missing out on anything big here pattern wise.
10-25-2006, 06:49 PM
Sorry for jumping in late, but I just finished my own;)
I have my costume diary of sorts here:
I drafted it all myself based on a catsuit pattern I altered several years ago.
Basically to get the suit to sit smoothly over the torso and arms and allow movement without deep folds on the shoulder you need to make the armhole smaller and the top of the sleeve shallower.
I also put in a waist seam so I could cut each leg from one piece (no seam on the outside) and have the front of the body cut in one piece (no seam from neck to corset edge.)
The corset I drafted by using my ducttape double, lots of pins and estimation for where the seams sit on the original vs where they would need to do on me.
The stitches I did by wearing it, pinning guidelines and sewing. And I have lots of lovey welts all up my legs to prove it;)
The cowl was a nightmare!!!!!!! How you make it really depends on how much hair you have. I can nearly sit on mine (very full at the roots to the shoudlers but the rest is thinner due to medical related hair loss a few years ago) which means I had to have my hair in french plaits and spiral the ends. Unfortunately it's a little lumpy. I wound up with a layer of lyrca then thin stretchy felt then the PVC patchworked on top. It was still a little lumpy but I will fix that next time by finetunign the french plaiting process...
Lots of photos, most of these I haven't yet got permission to use, yet, so I'll link to the sites they are hosted on (photobucket being the only one I'll direct link to.)
10-25-2006, 11:24 PM
my problem in making this costume has been the mask...wow...I'm really having problems.
10-26-2006, 01:33 AM
If worst comes to the worst there is a reasonably priced molded mask on ebay right now. Do a search for Catwoman mask and you'll find it I'm sure.
10-26-2006, 09:42 AM
Satine, I saw your costume the other day in the gallery and practically squee'd with delight! It looks wonderful. ^_^ I hope that when I get around to it, mine looks just as good.
I stalled a bit on this costume, since I still don't have the time or resources or experience to attempt it, but perhaps in 2008. Ugh, such a long ways away! But I just LOVE this version of Catwoman, so it'll be worth it whenever I get around to it (and I like that she's not really young, so I won't feel old wearing it if I'm 30+ by the time I finish!). ;)
I've some ideas for the mask, but seeing as I haven't the time to make the costume, I won't get started. But I did see that one on ebay years ago and it somewhat inspired me. I'm lucky, though - a friend of mine is doing makeup fx and prosthetics and things, and she said she could help me make a mask when the time came.
I look forward to reading your journal, Satine! Thank you so much for sharing!So many people guard their "cosplay secrets" nowadays. I really like reading about the processes involved in creating something. I find it inspiring!
10-26-2006, 05:49 PM
Hee, well I do know I generally use costume diaries as a way to think further about how I'd do something, but not use them as a step by step guide, so that's what I try and do;) I tried several ways, but what I wound up with was perfect for me, it may need to be tweaked for other people though:)
I decided if I ever make this from the proper materials I will do a head sculpt and make the cowl that way, but until then...;) And it would require me losing another 5 kilos on top of what I already have;)
10-26-2006, 06:55 PM
Its not the exact mask, its more like the 'hat' version of her cowl... but Simplicity patten 4962 has the 'current' catwoman mask, which could probably be modified into her cowl if you needed a base piece.
10-26-2006, 09:21 PM
Funny enough, while you-tubing Batman Returns stuff and reading Wikipedia-- the actress literally had the Catsuit vaccumed to her body. She could only go so long during each take inside that thing.
10-26-2006, 09:58 PM
Oh! I think I read somewhere that it was actually latex rubber that was molded based on her body, and she had to be powdered a lot with baby powder to get into it. One site I had claimed "she didn't have difficulty going to the bathroom", and another said "it was impossible so she just didn't drink much".
And another said that it was actually a size or two too small so that it was really tight. I wonder how she moved in that thing. ^^;
If you've got any interesting sites like that to share, I'd more than appreciate it! (dang, now I really wanna make it again! but first I need some practice sewing again)
10-26-2006, 10:40 PM
No, Tim Burton said she looked like she was vacuum sealed (it's in his commentaries) ;) It was latex, and you can see in some shots that the stitches were created on strips of black latex that were then glued to the main body of the suit. Her first stage of unravelling was faked as well with pale flesh coloured latex but at the end the suit really was broken down.
Having spent a couple of days in a suit and corset, there is no way it was easy. You have the corset to unlace then the zip and latex is harder to pull on and off than stretch PVC. I think it took about half an hour to get out of and back into the suit for me. I definitely did not drink that much! I made it harder by sewign the cowl to the neck of my catsuit. I will have a proper chin strap for next time though!
10-27-2006, 09:02 AM
Commentaries? I gotta rent that version, the box set I have of the Batman movies doesn't have any extras. :(
When I was researching (which was a while ago now, and haven't looked at it since) I read that sewing latex is near impossible as the holes tear easily. I noticed that she had an "extra layer" where the stitches were, and it made sense (otherwise she'd be falling apart). I know about the bodysuit/fleshtone (it looked white to me, not fleshtone).
Wearing it sounds like a hassle! UGH! But it's so SEXY!
10-27-2006, 05:33 PM
my problem in making this costume has been the mask...wow...I'm really having problems.
Well, here's how I made mine. It may not be the best way to do it, but it worked:
I pulled a stocking over my head, and wrapped duct tape around my head (around the eyes, but I didn't attempt to make the eyeholes the right shape yet, just left the eyes open so I could see =P), then I took it off and marked with a sharpie on it where I wanted the seams to be, and around the eyeholes, etc., then I numbered the shapes and cut along the lines.
(Only bad part about the stocking was that sometime after I took the mask off, it shrunk back down and pulled away from the inside of the mask. But I just put another layer of duct tape on the inside to keep it from sticking to me when I tried it on and it was fine.)
Well, I wanted the mask to be sturdy and hold its shape, but I also wanted it to match the rest of the costume, so I used the pattern pieces to cut the shapes out of some thick upholstery vinyl, then I cut the same shapes (but a bit bigger) out of the same shiny PVC I used for the rest of the costume, then I wrapped each piece of PVC around each respective piece of the thicker vinyl and hot glued the edges underneath (does that make sense?).
Then I just sewed the pieces together using hemp chord--only problem is that the thick needle I had to use was too dull to go through all those layers of vinyl, so I had to make each hole using an awl. It was tedius and made my hands really sore, but I like the fact that the stitches weren't just for show and were actually holding the mask together.
10-30-2006, 05:23 AM
I have just updated my webpage to include my dress diary and a few inprogress photos:
(lots of photos from the event lists)
The diary with thumbnailed in progress images.
Oh yes, one tip I don't know I mentioned: wax your thread and be careful not to deposit the wax all over the PVC as it will dull it. The wax prevents the thread for the white stitches twisting. I held my finger over the hole the thread was coming out of just firmly enough to keep the wax from flaking across the stitch but still allowed the thread to pass through.
10-30-2006, 07:41 PM
wow, thanks for the advice everyone, I'm well on my way now with sewing. :)
The posts here were really helpful. Will post photos when I get it finished...dont hold your breath though lol, I only get to work on this during my lunch breaks at work...so it wont be for awhile!