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Spatx
01-03-2004, 10:19 AM
I love crossplaying as guys.. But my hips and butt! The only thing I have going for me is naturally thicker eyebrows and broad shoulders. ^_^

Is there any suggestions or things that can work to make hips/butts look smaller or slim them down?

Thats about my only problem, I had trouble with binding too, but I read through all the posts and I have a pretty good idea of what I'm doing now. ^^

Scortia
01-03-2004, 10:41 AM
I have wide hips and narrow shoulders, so I understand your pain... I wear those slimming shorts that hold you in from thigh to waist and they help a little... then there's always costumes that require tight pants... you'll just hurt like hell from them but should get that look. And in addition... running, running, and more running... exercise can help. Binding is your friend... sports bra, ace bandage, bingo. ;p

dani
01-03-2004, 07:26 PM
You need to modify the "hourglass" proportions (bust, waist, hip) on your costume to male ratios. Maybe after binding you could pad your waist a bit. You might not like to look fatter but optically that will make your hips less noticeable.

Luck...

Dani

Koumori
01-03-2004, 08:27 PM
Padding the waist is the best help I can give, too. In addition to wearing a foundation garment that will slim your hips and thighs, padding out the sides of your waist and the small of your back will help reduce the appearance of a curve there and create the optical illusion of a smaller waist to hip ratio.

Karisu-sama
01-03-2004, 09:55 PM
Pad your waist or at least wear shirts that are loose in this area. Wear your pants a bit lower on the hips (because guys have longer torsos and a shorter abdominal area). Keep the waistband loose, preferably if possible rising loosely up above the point of "hang" (helps cover narrower waist.) Wearing shoulder pads (even with broader shoulders, like mine) will make the hips look narrower by making the shoulders look wider. If the pants legs do not go narrower than the widest point on your thigh, the butt will get less emphasis.

I have "nice childbearing hips", but in actual fact, they measure only 2" in circumference larger than my husband's. The big difference is that my girly waist is a lot smaller than his boyish one, so my hips normally get a lot more emphasis.

Spatx
01-04-2004, 05:56 PM
Hehe, Thanks for the help, but I don't think I would want to pad my waist.. I'm large enough already without needing padding. *laughs* In any case, I do think those shorts that hold you in a bit would help. And exercise - I'm working on that. :jjacks:

The costume I'm doing right now is Katan from the Angel Sanctuary anime, so luckily the way the costume goes you can't see my curves. I think the only thing I'll have to do is bind and use some make-up *curses at her acne* :sulk:

Scortia
01-04-2004, 06:19 PM
He has sort of a belted trenchcoat, right? That's actually one of the best things a crossplayer can wear. Remember to wear the belt low and loose... if you wear it snug to your waist it will look very female... try to poof the material around the belt more as well... if you check my gallery, I managed to lose the image of hips by wearing a trenchcoat as well... you honestly are doing a costume that will make you look very masculine... and I suggest shoulder pads if you can get some of the more natural looking ones.

LuckInSpades
01-04-2004, 06:34 PM
Briefly Off Topic, but I must:

I'd just be happy enough making my middle slim enough for female costumes. ^,^

Hitori
01-05-2004, 10:35 AM
Most people covered everithing I noted to work. I don't have much expirience with ridding miself of hips though, since mine are veri guy like alreadi. Wearing your pants low on the hips I've noticed to be one of the best thing (Example, if I wear them low risers that are "in" right now, I have been mistaked for a guy, and most of you know what I look like@.@). And, if you don't mind too much, change the costume. In little wais, to accent things, like what Scortia was saying.

Karisu-sama
01-10-2004, 04:35 PM
Color counts: Wear DARK colored pants if at all possible. Light-colored or white pants will just balloon your hips. >.<

Standing / walking: Avoid the classic female S-posture = pulled back shoulders with outthrust chest and butt. Tilt your hips forward (as if doing a pelvic thrust :p ) - you'd be amazed how much that lessens the butt.

Stand square on both feet - weight on one leg will tend to thrust out the opposite hip in a more "girly" manner and emphasizing it.

Posing: Stand with your hips 3/4 to the camera for the narrowest appearance. (If you then turn your upper body somewhat more square to the camera, the shoulders definitely get more emphasis over the hips.)

In that pose, another trick is to let your arm (the one more in front) hang down at your side in such a manner as to conveniently cover more butt.

Not a perfect example but not too bad:
http://www.dragonsgate.net/cosplay/crossplay/SpiralDance1IMG0311.jpg

Other tricks in that picture: low-waisted pants (yeah, girl's low-risers :) ), loose belt, tape binding (that's my real skin), and shoulder pads inside one of my husband's shirts. (I don't think I'm giving him that shirt back! :p )

The low-rise on those pants isn't super low, but I think that belt is at least 2-3" below my actual waist. I usually don't pad my waist (didn't there either), and I never "stuff".

~~~~~~~~~~~~

Body Language: (Bonus edit!)

Guys naturally take up more personal space (social conditioning, I bet.) Do it. Let your elbows out. Sit with your knees apart, or your ankle on the opposite knee, etc.

Don't walk with your knees turned in! - Or even straight, if possible - try to make them go outward when you walk, like most guys. You'll probably have to walk with your feet turned a bit more out than you are used to, but it will look normal. (Good practice - try walking up and down stairs "like a guy".)

Stride.

CapsuleCorp
01-10-2004, 05:28 PM
Wow. Great tips, Karisu! What a bishonen. :)

Funny you should mention the way you stand...after I was having some back pains and shoulder troubles at work (I sew all day at a shop, in addition to sewing at home), my boss sent me to his massage therapist. He does real body-work, not just the happy feel-good spa type massage. Once he set my shoulder right, he pointed something out to me about the position of my hips, and without having known me for more than a half an hour, pegged me exactly on the way I tend to stand and said it was the reason some of my aches kept recurring. I've spent a year consciously re-training myself on how to stand, and it's defintely more like a guy's posture: weight on both feet at all times, not cocked to one side, hips tilted more forward to align my back straight, not slouching. Doing this for cosplay will help, I can see, but it's still a conscious thing. We all have developed our own instincts for how to stand, and breaking out of that means always thinking about it whenever you're standing or walking, and if your muscles aren't used to it, you may get a little twinge the next day. Think being in a corset all day and being forced to stand with a straighter back - it's like that.

But, with training...anything is possible. ;)

Now, to get going on that walking/running/working out to physically reduce the size of my ass...

Sweet~Pea
01-10-2004, 06:49 PM
[QUOTE=CapsuleCorp]Funny you should mention the way you stand...after I was having some back pains and shoulder troubles at work (I sew all day at a shop, in addition to sewing at home), my boss sent me to his massage therapist. He does real body-work, not just the happy feel-good spa type massage. Once he set my shoulder right, he pointed something out to me about the position of my hips, and without having known me for more than a half an hour, pegged me exactly on the way I tend to stand and said it was the reason some of my aches kept recurring. I've spent a year consciously re-training myself on how to stand, and it's defintely more like a guy's posture: weight on both feet at all times, not cocked to one side, hips tilted more forward to align my back straight, not slouching. Doing this for cosplay will help, I can see, but it's still a conscious thing. We all have developed our own instincts for how to stand, and breaking out of that means always thinking about it whenever you're standing or walking, and if your muscles aren't used to it, you may get a little twinge the next day. Think being in a corset all day and being forced to stand with a straighter back - it's like that.
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I definatly agree with this. I've been taking ballet since I was 6 so I walk with a straight back all the time now. You wouldn't believe how much stress is relived for you body when you hold yourself up with your stomach instead of your back. I don't know how some girls can walk with arched backs, not to mention it makes you ass and stomach look twice as big because it is being pushed outwards.

So I do agree that proper stance can make a difference in making the character believeable.

Cheers
-Christa

Spatx
01-10-2004, 07:51 PM
Yay, great tips! I will definitely try standing differently. ^_^

I was at the store the other day, and tried on different kinds of slimming body suits and stuff. It made the world of difference! The one that really helped with my stomach/upper legs/butt went from just above my knees to just below my chest. Although.. I'm still looking because it would be nice if I could find one that went higher, aka, making my chest flatter while at it.

Hitori
01-10-2004, 09:07 PM
These standing tips are great, thanx everione. I tend to stand like that aniwai, but it's good to know that it'll be helpful.
I hope to have some good tips realli soon, as I'm working on a Touga of Utena uniform and he wears, horror or horrors, white pants. It's going to be realli fun figuring it all out.

Panda_Brat
01-11-2004, 03:01 PM
I want to crossplay as Ryuichi and there is now way I could bind or pad in his costume. (the one were his stomach is almost fully exposed and ther is only one button and that leaves his chest exposed too)

CapsuleCorp
01-11-2004, 04:43 PM
Oh, I know the feeling, Hitori. I'm going to do Gohan's Kai outfit, which also has white pants. Fortunately, my butt will be completely covered by a very long coat, so I shouldn't have any issues there.

Which store were you looking in, Spatx? I've considered hunting around for shaping garments that might help if I utterly fail to lose weight or tone particular muscles. But I don't know quite where to start looking.

Scortia
01-11-2004, 09:08 PM
I want to crossplay as Ryuichi and there is now way I could bind or pad in his costume. (the one were his stomach is almost fully exposed and ther is only one button and that leaves his chest exposed too)

I'm doing the same outfit.. I'm just connecting the costume slightly more across my breast and putting on a flesh colored ace bandage there... and wearing men's jeans low on the hip... aside from that, the best thing you can do for concert Ryuichi is get a nice firm set of abs. ;p

Spatx
01-11-2004, 10:19 PM
Which store were you looking in, Spatx? I've considered hunting around for shaping garments that might help if I utterly fail to lose weight or tone particular muscles. But I don't know quite where to start looking.

Hehe, I don't have a lot of money, so I just looked around the local mall here. Zellers, The Bay, and some lingerie store I can't remember the name of. ^^

I've been trying to lose weight, its so hard! @_@ *sighs* I envy people who can eat and eat and not gain a pound. At least I HAVE lost weight, 10 pounds since November. ^_^ I'm proud of that, but I need to lose more then just 10 pounds! grr.. I think having someone to exercise with would make it a better experience. lol. I get bored far too easily, and forget what I'm doing. hehe.

My typical day: *working working* ~distraction~ 'ohh! look!' *runs off and never comes back*

Beware_UY7
01-11-2004, 11:23 PM
Mrawr. Lose weight? Pilates. Definitely. And one of the areas that you lose inches from quickly is your hips.

Losing weight is still hard... if you want, we can go kill my guy friend Kyle together; he loses at least 5 pounds every time he eats...... PIE!!!!!! No matter how much pie he eats... whether its one slice or 3/4 of a pie... its crazy. And it makes you feel just a bit homicidal. *despises her guy friends who all look better in a mini-skirt than any man should have a right to*

dani
01-12-2004, 01:43 AM
Hehe, I don't have a lot of money, so I just looked around the local mall here. Zellers, The Bay, and some lingerie store I can't remember the name of.
for shaping undergarments I really recommend Sears. But not going to a store. Get their whole catalog. The big book. They have lots of stuff and ship for free to a store close to your home. Go to sears.ca, find where your closest Sears associated merchant is and go ask for the whole catalog. Then choose what you want and check the webpage every day till they put it on special.
I've been trying to lose weight, its so hard! @_@ *sighs* I envy people who can eat and eat and not gain a pound. At least I HAVE lost weight, 10 pounds since November. ^_^ I'm proud of that, but I need to lose more then just 10 pounds! grr.. I think having someone to exercise with would make it a better experience. lol. I get bored far too easily, and forget what I'm doing. I'm working on that too. Tried to re-program my brain to reject pastries and sweets. ("looks good, but do I really need to carry all those extra calories in my tummy?") Since I'm too lazy to go to a gym I'm making one in my basement. Having a threadmill in front of the TV works wonders. I usually do 40 to 60 minutes at night, when everyone else is asleep.

Something to note: it is IMPOSSIBLE to decide which parts of the body you want to burn calories from. The same way the body decides by itself where to store them when they come in, it decides where to take them out from without asking us.

*despises her guy friends who all look better in a mini-skirt than any man should have a right to*Am I in your despise list? :) (see my gallery)

But going back to the topic of the thread, guy's pants are shaped, sized and worn way different than ladies'.

Have fun...

Dani

Pink Bunnie
01-12-2004, 02:18 AM
Color counts: Wear DARK colored pants if at all possible. Light-colored or white pants will just balloon your hips. >.<

Posing: Stand with your hips 3/4 to the camera for the narrowest appearance. (If you then turn your upper body somewhat more square to the camera, the shoulders definitely get more emphasis over the hips.)

In that pose, another trick is to let your arm (the one more in front) hang down at your side in such a manner as to conveniently cover more butt.

Not a perfect example but not too bad:
http://www.dragonsgate.net/cosplay/crossplay/SpiralDance1IMG0311.jpg

Other tricks in that picture: low-waisted pants (yeah, girl's low-risers :) ), loose belt, tape binding (that's my real skin), and shoulder pads inside one of my husband's shirts. (I don't think I'm giving him that shirt back! :p )

The low-rise on those pants isn't super low, but I think that belt is at least 2-3" below my actual waist. I usually don't pad my waist (didn't there either), and I never "stuff".

~~~~~~~~~~~~

Body Language: (Bonus edit)

Standing / sitting / walking: Avoid the classic female S-posture = pulled back shoulders with outthrust chest and butt. Tilt your hips forward (as if doing a pelvic thrust :p ) - you'd be amazed how much that lessens the butt.

Stand square on both feet - weight on one leg will tend to thrust out the opposite hip in a more "girly" manner.

Guys naturally take up more personal space (social conditioning, I bet.) Do it. Let your elbows out. Sit with your knees apart, or your ankle on the opposite knee, etc.

Don't walk with your knees turned in! - Or even straight, if possible - try to make them go outward when you walk, like most guys. You'll probably have to walk with your feet turned a bit more out than you are used to, but it will look normal. (Good practice - try walking up and down stairs "like a guy".)

Stride.

Wow that pic amazes me. If I didn't know better I'd be fooled o.o

Spatx
01-12-2004, 04:38 PM
Thanks Dani!

I will definitely look into Sears. ^_^

I wish that we had a treadmill! Right now, DDR is my exercise since I have no tolerence to the cold, I prefer to stay indoors in winter. Lol, I'm getting a lot better, 316 combo today on standard! :jjacks:

CapsuleCorp
01-12-2004, 10:29 PM
LOL!! DDR is my cardio, too! Oh dear. We are such otaku. But I've been lifting weights, too, for my upper body and back strength.

sears.ca...you know, good things have always happened when I went to Canada to look for stuff, especially via Sears. I got awesome Jedi boots from them a few years ago. Will look, thanks dani!

Karisu-sama
01-13-2004, 12:03 AM
Now that this thread is an "FAQ sticky", please don't fill it with random chitchat.

(I will be stickying an equivalent-type thread for guys - I need to check the threads and I'm super busy)


Thank you.

(PS: Thanks, Mel! You know what I really look like! ^___^)

Sarcasm-hime
01-13-2004, 12:55 AM
I haven't even bothered contemplating crossplay pretty much, as I think I have wayyy too many strikes against me:
- short
- narrow shoulders
- wide hips
- short waist w/ long legs
- super-long hair means it's very difficult to wear a short-haired wig

Oh well...I like girly costumes so I guess it's just as well. But I did see a really cool male costume in Last Exile recently that I was severely tempted by...*sigh*

Karisu-sama
01-13-2004, 01:58 AM
I think I have wayyy too many strikes against me

Really?

Me:
- 5'8.5". OK, not short...
- IMO wide shoulders (but definitely narrower than my husband's.) Sarcasm: I never got the impression from your photos that you had narrow shoulders, even in the ribbon costume. (For mine, see pics below.)

However:
- nice childbearing hips (36", & proven quite capable for childbearing :p )
- short waist & long legs (it's true; I have to buy my jeans in "long" because "regular" is too short - it limits where I can buy jeans. :( )
- long hair (not super-long & it's REALLY fine - I always wanted hair like yours! )

Which I see narrows it down to "short". Nothing wrong with pint-sized bishounen. ^^
If you ever feel tempted enough, go ahead. :) (I certainly do girly costumes too. :p)

Some intentionally girly photos of scrawny under-endowed Karisu (the dark hair is the real stuff):
http://www.dragonsgate.net/photopost/data/534/3IMG0181-med.jpg
http://www.dragonsgate.net/cosplay/Karisu_is_a_Girl.jpg

Spatx
01-13-2004, 05:16 PM
Sorry about random chit chat- I get too excited sometimes and blab on. xD

I have a question about padding your waist - If you were to ever actually pad yourself, how would you do it and what would you use? I have a friend that is interested in knowing how you would go about doing that.

And my own personal question - Which kind of body slimming suit would work better? :

One that is like a bathing suit
or
One that goes from just above knees to above bellybutton

I tried one that went from below the knees to my waist, but it didn't work right for helping my hips, so i just nicely shoved it back on the shelf. I haven't been able to find one that is like a bathing suit yet, so I don't know if it would work better or not. Thanks for all the help! I'm quite a Newbie. ^^

ACXchan
01-17-2004, 07:08 PM
An easy way to lose weight, particularly around the waist and below area, is to do alot of walking. Ever since I moved to San Francisco I've been doing lots and lots of walking @D@ It's helped me to lose and maintain a decent weight. Swimming also does wonders XD But people who don't want to tone and buff up their calf muscles may want to stay away from these exercises ^ ^; I also use a thigh slimmer now, those are great although they'll stretch with time.

I have broad shoulders and big hands, too bad they don't compensate for wide hips u_u

CapsuleCorp
01-18-2004, 08:56 PM
On the suggestions about what kinds of pants to wear and how to wear them...I've learned the hard way this weekend about tailoring pants so they don't emphasize your girl-ness. I got a misses' pants pattern for my Yugi school-uniform pants because of how slim and slender Yami Yugi is, but it took a lot of tweaking to get them to NOT emphasize my hips. The darts on the back sort of help the butt issue, but I had to majorly take the pants in on the side seams to eliminate the shape the pattern had - very hippy. So, a word to the wise who want to try to hide their womanly lower half under their clothing - if you use a pattern, watch out for what makes a pattern "women's." Making your own pants does give you a chance to do all the altering and tailoring you want, but it also means being stuck with the current offerings from pattern companies unless you're really good at drafting and altering patterns.

Learned that lesson quick - the Gohan pants are very highly altered. :D Wider waistband on them, too - stupid misses pants with stupid little narrow waistband for little tiny fashionable belts. *grumble*

Cait
01-28-2004, 08:37 PM
About the pants... Yeah. I feel that pain. The problem is a lot of the premade pants I can buy/have bought, even though they are for men and boys, have a tendency, well... I'm very short (5'1") and I usually end up getting things that are made for fat little boys. Unfortunatly, these often have a tapered pant leg. I'm not an intensly fat girl, but I do end up looking like a really fat little boy with pant legs that seem to start a few feet wide and come to a point.

Here comes the vague and impossible question. Is there any way to look like a lean guy? I mean what exactly do you do with something like that? I don't know.

*sweatdrops at self and falls over*

CapsuleCorp
01-28-2004, 09:27 PM
Hmm...well, as the pants go, I would say, don't worry about the length for a moment and hunt up pants that fit you more nicely, and then lop off all that extra length and re-hem them. That is, if you can't make the pants from scratch, and are stuck with finding them. Hemming pants isn't really that difficult, in the end, and is probably worth the work if the rest of the pants don't make you look like a boy with a wide load. :)

Other ideas? Hmm....

Cait
01-28-2004, 10:26 PM
Hmm...well, as the pants go, I would say, don't worry about the length for a moment and hunt up pants that fit you more nicely, and then lop off all that extra length and re-hem them. That is, if you can't make the pants from scratch, and are stuck with finding them. Hemming pants isn't really that difficult, in the end, and is probably worth the work if the rest of the pants don't make you look like a boy with a wide load. :)

Other ideas? Hmm....

*nods slowly* The trouble is, I guess, I'm a little enough person that I find it hard to find adult male clothes in my size... but, what would I look for, anyway? What cut? What style?

Karisu-sama
01-30-2004, 12:13 AM
If you are shopping instead of making from scratch....

You need to look for what's hard to find these days, given that guys' fashions have been so oriented toward the "real loose leg" look for quite a while. I don't know WHY 70's style pants (tighter at the thighs, but somewhat looser from the knee down) came back in fashion only for girls - the equivalent styles for boys gave them long skinny sexy legs!! :( (I'm old enough to remember!! (And it's one reason I often make lower-rise girls' pants pass for boys' - btw wearing boot-cut helps visually "take away" from the hip width.)

You might try to look for guys' pants labled "slim fit". They're starting to show up on shelves again. (I snatch 'em up for my husband when I can find them! ;) ) They're actually not as slim as I'd like to see yet, but it's a trend in the right direction IMO...

Kitsune_rei
02-26-2004, 11:38 AM
I have the same sort of problem ^_^; My breasts aren't that big so are easy to squish, but my hips and butt are pretty obviously female.
I'd say this is more difficult in a tight outfit than a more layered or looser-fitting outfit, in order to do padding you'd have to wear something that conceals your mid-section well or it'll look funny, but padding will at least make you look more straight down the sides like a guy. Also you should probably be sure to take extra padding into account when you're making your costume or picking sizes, since your waist will be broader.
I may do a little padding, but I don't care that much that people know I'm female, I think my face pretty much gives it away anyway since there's not that much I can do to change it. The character I wanted to do looks pretty femme anyway.
Was definately interesting reading through the thread though ^_^. I'll remember the standing tips for when I cosplay!

Animeloilpop
04-05-2004, 02:45 AM
i have a problem my butt and hip are really big well not really but you get the point pading is out of the question because most of my belly will show. beside my chest and hips/butt i could so pass as a boy i'll get a pic so you know what i'm talking about but if you seen gravitation it the outfit of shuichi on the second dvd i believe

thank you all if you can help me.

ArashiSakura
04-08-2004, 03:20 PM
I'm going to be lazy and not read all the other posts, but How do you get rid of an hourglass shape? I know how to bind my chest and stuff but how do you get rid of hips and a slim waist?

Karisu-sama
04-09-2004, 02:06 AM
It won't kill you (or take a year and a day) to read the other posts. ;( That's WHY this thread (and others like it) are "sticky" - so that people who have the answers won't have to post the same thing OVER AND OVER ad nauseum. >.<

aki_no_kitsune
06-21-2004, 12:49 PM
I wonder if tight-fitting *non-casual* jeans or ACE bandages would help to narrow down the thighs... I can manage with a loose shirt tied low at the hips (because it looks better that way than hanging loose all the way) to cover my girlish hips, but thighs... *sigh*
Losing weight is pretty much out of question, since I think I'd have to lose pretty much to get my legs thinner and my weight index is barely in "normal weight" as it is. Well, more running up and down the stairs... all the way to the 4th floor. :p

mukino_kuneka
06-27-2004, 04:18 PM
I'm not at all confident about crossplaying Riku from Kingdom Hearts. Not only do I have to do lots of pushups to emphasize my arm muscles (where are they? ARGH!), but from almost every single angle he has absolutely NO hips, and a VERY skinny waist. Another factor that bothers me is that his shirt is very form-fitting.

Is there any way at all I can pull it off? Would it be a good idea to pad my waist, or just make the shirt so that it's *baggy* and conceals my waist?

Reference:

xie-chan
06-28-2004, 01:14 PM
I'm not at all confident about crossplaying Riku from Kingdom Hearts. Not only do I have to do lots of pushups to emphasize my arm muscles (where are they? ARGH!), but from almost every single angle he has absolutely NO hips, and a VERY skinny waist. Another factor that bothers me is that his shirt is very form-fitting.

Is there any way at all I can pull it off? Would it be a good idea to pad my waist, or just make the shirt so that it's *baggy* and conceals my waist?

Reference:

I'd pad my waist maybe if I were you, just a little, and you could do it smoothly too

mukino_kuneka
06-29-2004, 09:25 PM
Would foam work for smooth padding?

miaka2u
07-05-2004, 12:24 AM
I was wondering if you guys could tell me if I could pull off my figure as Van Fanel. He has absolutely no butt or hips, and me, well, I'm obviously a girl with the completely opposite figure. ^^

I took this picture mainly to show the zipper I tried to hide on the "perfect" Van pants. I didn't bind (but that'll be no problem I can go almost perfectly flat) so, um... yea ignore that, but I tried making the shirt lose so it'd help hide my waist and also to help make my shoulders look bigger.

Tell me what you think (these pictures weren't intended for this purpose so you can see my long hair is there and my hands are on my hips... Sorry) And this cosplay is just in the starting stages, so it's BY FAR finished:
http://images.cosplay.com/showphoto.php?photo=155040&sort=1&cat=8438&page=1
http://images.cosplay.com/showphoto.php?photo=148838&sort=1&cat=8438&page=1

xie-chan
07-08-2004, 01:41 PM
The first picture looks really good.. there aren't really noticeable curves from what I saw... How'd you do that? o.O *poke*

In the second picture, the hips are more noticeable I think in part because of how you're standing.

I'm not really sure what advice to offer though, I'm still trying to figure out this silly smaller hip thing myself...

Einthedatadog
07-21-2004, 09:36 AM
this is why i am glad that i have a more boyish body ;_;

Fluffy-chan
07-30-2004, 09:33 PM
Everyone will probably get mad at me for saying this, but, Oh well!

Every character I've done has been a male. I'm just glad that I don't have to worry about anything like that. Hehehe!

For starters, I have no chest. Well maybe a little but nothing that can't be easily concealed. I have no hips either and I have little to no butt. I'm also very slender so I get to have more likenesses to most anime guys.

I don't mind because I've always been into crossplay cause it's fun!

I think it's funny when they think I'm a pretty boy! One time at a con, there were these girls flirting with me.

I thought that was sooo funny! :crylaugh:

(some of you are probably like "ewww")

On second thought, maybe they really knew I was a girl! (scary) :mfg:

scarlet
08-21-2004, 02:16 PM
I am planning to make this costume from the new series Sokyu no Fafner. I wanted to find some reference picture of the costume but I couldn't (i guess it's too new) and I have no idea how to screen cap from the anime. anyways, i'll describe the costume.

it's a body fit sort of thing that reseambles the battle suits from evangelion. However, it opens on both sides. As in you can see all the skin from the bottom of the ribcase all the way down to right above the knees. ( i know, it's a very unusual costume for a guy character) the openings are pretty wide too, it's about 3-4". therefore, i think waist padding doesn't work in my case, right?

gojyothehanyou
08-22-2004, 11:57 PM
yea... im going to be Cloud from ff7 and he wears a shirts that is on the tighter side and i have a big chest. so i am going to wear my swimsuit from swim team to flattem my chest because thats what one piece suits do. if you have a shest problem but not a hip problem i suggest using a one piece swimsuit to flatten you chest, and if it doesnt do it enough wrap it a little bit. i need to wrap and wear the suit. but then again... i have problems with my hips.... they are very wide...

aguynamedgoo
08-24-2004, 01:12 AM
Here are some tips I got for my everyday life that I give to female friends who want to crossplay:

-As Karisu-sama said, the way you carry yourself impacts it a lot. It takes some practice (especially if you plan to do it every day for the rest of your life), but the "guy walk" is probably the most important aspect as it will take attention away from the hip area.

-I have a curvature of the spine that causes my chest to stick out whether I am bound or not. Although it is not recommended for day to day use (a future of backaches awaits me), if you have this problem lean forward slightly or slouch whenever you're sitting or even when you're standing (the standing part can get hard. Good thing about Hojo cosplay: he leans forward all the way). When you're standing, try to lean against things so your back is pressed as flat as possible. If like me and pressing your back completely flat is uncomfortable, lean forward slightly and pose your legs in a casual position. I have pretty long legs and am flexible to boot, so I can comfortably adopt positions such as "ankle-over-ankle" that some girls can't pull off.

-As has been said, low-riding pants do wonders. Some of my female friends found that if they can tuck in a shirt (even just an undershirt) into their pants and then put on their costume then the extra space where the hips are is naturally filled in and creates a "solid" look without having to pad. It also works for the aforementioned back-to-rear area problem. (Note: this is a trick I seldom use for myself, as I don't really have noticible hips and my back is more obvious, but many of my friends swear by it. Just note that this doesn't work for all body types, and should be used in conjunction with the other methods listed in this thread.)

-There's a trick I sometimes use depending on what I am wearing called the pocket trick: if you are wearing jeans or a coat with pockets, then if the pockets are low enough and you used the above shirt method or you aren't wearing a belted outfit, it will pull the fabric more taught and hide the hips and will also work to hide the back and rear area if you simply put your hands in your pockets. However, if you do this with certain clothes (like anything belted) it will only serve to make the hips and rear more obvious. (I only really do this when I am wearing some sort of coat, like my lab coat.) Warning: if you are taking one hand out of your pocket, take the other out, too, or you'll look lopsided and the whole effect is ruined. As I said, this is a seldom used trick that doesn't work for everyone or with all outfits. Make sure you see how it works with your costume in front of a mirror (and if your costume allows for you to keep your hands jammed in your pockets without looking awkward) before you haul this out for con purposes: this is one of the few tricks that will end up biting you in the rear end if you use it wrong. (It's more of a day to day thing, but friends who crossplay Yami no Matsuei characters with trench coats and such claim that it works great for their costumes.)

dead pixle
08-24-2004, 11:13 AM
I naturally stand guy-ish.

Basically, if you thrust your hips foward and then hunch a bit foward with your shoulders, your butt, hips, and chest will be lass accentuated.

Blue Sasarai
08-28-2004, 02:07 AM
Color counts: Wear DARK colored pants if at all possible. Light-colored or white pants will just balloon your hips. >.<

Standing / walking: Avoid the classic female S-posture = pulled back shoulders with outthrust chest and butt. Tilt your hips forward (as if doing a pelvic thrust :p ) - you'd be amazed how much that lessens the butt.

Stand square on both feet - weight on one leg will tend to thrust out the opposite hip in a more "girly" manner and emphasizing it.

Posing: Stand with your hips 3/4 to the camera for the narrowest appearance. (If you then turn your upper body somewhat more square to the camera, the shoulders definitely get more emphasis over the hips.)

In that pose, another trick is to let your arm (the one more in front) hang down at your side in such a manner as to conveniently cover more butt.

Not a perfect example but not too bad:
http://www.dragonsgate.net/cosplay/crossplay/SpiralDance1IMG0311.jpg

Other tricks in that picture: low-waisted pants (yeah, girl's low-risers :) ), loose belt, tape binding (that's my real skin), and shoulder pads inside one of my husband's shirts. (I don't think I'm giving him that shirt back! :p )

The low-rise on those pants isn't super low, but I think that belt is at least 2-3" below my actual waist. I usually don't pad my waist (didn't there either), and I never "stuff".

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Body Language: (Bonus edit!)

Guys naturally take up more personal space (social conditioning, I bet.) Do it. Let your elbows out. Sit with your knees apart, or your ankle on the opposite knee, etc.

Don't walk with your knees turned in! - Or even straight, if possible - try to make them go outward when you walk, like most guys. You'll probably have to walk with your feet turned a bit more out than you are used to, but it will look normal. (Good practice - try walking up and down stairs "like a guy".)

Stride.



these r great tips ^^ ty ill try some to!
what i think is funny though. that most people will do this later...and at the cons, their pics and motions will all be the same ^^ lmao so much of the same stuff omg!!
im just kidding, but it would be funny though :p

Aeauna
08-28-2004, 08:50 PM
I had an idea about this the other night. Would using "control top" pantyhose help? I'm not really familliar with it, so I don't know. Also, how would I go about padding my waist? I'm afraid I have some rather noticeable hips. T.T

Hinataheights
09-06-2004, 12:05 PM
im not sure if "bodysuits" were mentioned yet or not. i read most of the posts so if they were...sorry. anyways...you can buy them decently cheap and they make those wonderful "rolls" slightly disappear. you can get full bodysuits (almost ballet dancer-esque) or just the leg/stomach ones. once you've got that on...and its not horribly uncomfortable thankfully....then you can just loosely ace bandage your stomach once or twice to create a bit of a fuller effect for those of us needing to hide an hour glass figure. after wearing a body suit you can also ace bandage the hips to make them even more slim in appearance. i admit after you do all of this, moving will be more difficult than on any normal day...but thats the price of looking the way you want. also...i used to be a personal trainer and know some great hip/thigh fat burning workouts. anyone wants to inquire, just pm me. im more than happy to discuss.

my problem is that i have very much so an hour glass figure. im five foot, five inches and 140lbs. granted i know thats not horribly overweight, but unlike you gifted young girls with zero form, we have to actually work to look thin. not a day goes by where i dont work out. the bad news for you younger women who have yet to blossom so to speak...soon...within a few years...you will have a chest...you will get hips...and you will no longer have that boyish figure that you love right now. Cherish it! haha alright im done ranting. i have to go to work on a holiday. wonderful. sometimes being manager isnt such a good thing.

Anele
09-06-2004, 06:46 PM
I just bought myself a bodysuit (leotard/unitard? I keep getting those two mixed up! XD). Anyways, if you have a Party City near you, I suggest you stopping there (yes, they have their Halloween stuff out already). They have both leotards AND unitards for sale in a few colors, with sizes small / medium / large / x-large (these sizes accomodate both to your height and weight). They are around $13/$15 (I couldn't find anything for cheaper than this online). They also sell tights in a variety of colors in the same Bodywear section if you were interested in those as well.

Hope this info helped!

Seed-chan
09-13-2004, 06:47 PM
Okay, I just read thru the whole thread... and I'm still confused about one thing:

...what exactly do you STUFF WITH? (people say stuff, but no one say stuff with what)

Blue Sasarai
09-13-2004, 10:56 PM
god i tried the sports bra thing and the tape....it didnt do too much of a difference, and i had a hard time breathing >_< i dont think id like to have to wear that all through a con O_O ill die. i dunno, ill try other stuff later, c if anything works.

Elvenwolf
09-15-2004, 05:36 PM
Seed-chan - uh, I really wouldn't know since I don't stuff, but I've heard people use socks, "prosthetics" ...yeah, use your imagination.

Blue Sasarai - you really shouldn't have a hard time breathing if you breathe properly - ie. your stomach should only move up and down when inhaling and exhaling, not your chest.

Lily-chan
11-27-2004, 06:49 PM
Well, my trick for Hakkai was finding pants. I went to target, the godliest of all cosplay resources, when I couldn't find the plain tan pants in juniors, misses, boys, or mens, I thought I'd go to the same section I have to get my bathing suits from. The girls! While I got one size to small. (The pants were popular.) and they had a heart on the butt. (Which is fixed by saying "Its supoosed to be that way." ^^0) They really downplayed my girlie hips.

here's linkage:

I'm in the center! (http://images.cosplay.com/showphoto.php?photo=241013)

Oh and to the girl who wants to dress as Van, make the shirt longer. And a little thinner. !-----! to !---! or something like that.

Edit: Oh, and please forgive how lame my costume is. It was an all-niter before Halloween.

*Lola*
12-04-2004, 12:03 PM
As I was looking for an inexpensive corset, I found that there's one here that makes your hips smaller:

http://www.curvyqueen.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=corsets

(It looked good to me)

hanyoualanna
12-09-2004, 06:32 PM
I'm cosplaying Toshiya's raison d'etre outfit and my problem is that when I bind my chest I can't get myself totally flat (but I do a really good job considering I'm a 34 DD. If I put on a button down shirt you can't see them at all). I still end up with a smushed down lump. Since he wears a corset type top that's tight, I was thinking about maybe making a wide belt with a kind of pillow on the front where my stomach is to even it out. Does anyone think this would work or have any other ideas?

BlackMarth
12-16-2004, 05:17 PM
I'm 5'4'' and 160 lbs. The good thing is that above my waist, my proportions are perfectly normal for a girl my height. Go below, I have ballooning hips and thighs from when I was obese. I've had some luck with being naturally pre-disposed to male stances and some slimming panties, but there is still some that pops out.

Would binding the hips with ACE bandages work? Or would it restrict my movement too much? I know about padding the waist and widening the shoulders, but with a girl my height, wouldn't that simply make me look fatter?

Thanks.

wulfmune
12-16-2004, 07:57 PM
i would think using a body shaper would be the best bet for minimizing lower body. (smooths and tightens contours) try to squeezing into one thats a little small on you. ace bandages flatten, but they also add width, so it seems like it wouldn't do that much for the lower body unless you wrapped yourself veeery very tight, which i can't imagine would be good for movement or circulation. cut/fit of the pants and angle/pose will probably make the biggest difference as far as minimizing though.

Beware_UY7
01-28-2005, 07:56 PM
I'm wondering... has anyone here tried using compression shorts designed for pre-op female>male transexuals? If you look for it, there's all sorts of nifty shaping garments that could possibly be pretty awesome... but I was wondering if someone had tried anything like this...
Currently I boy-ify my figure with a compression vest (available from the same sort that sell other pre-op figure shaping garments) and men's sport compression shorts (you can buy them in the baseball section of any sporting goods or big box store...) ... and its worked well enough that I get away with boyishness pretty well (I cosplayed Slade Deathstroke Wilson from Teen Titans.... and it was interesting to see people's reactions when I took off the mask/helmet-y... thing... thing.), but I'm always looking for someting that works better, y'know?
Especially since my next crossplay will be another spandexy nightmare...

Angel Tifa
01-31-2005, 01:44 AM
Sorry I haven't read the thread. Is there any suggestions for flattenening busts? I want to crossplay as Cloud Strife or Miki Kaoru, but my breast are too big :(.

corvussolivagus
01-31-2005, 12:06 PM
Sorry I haven't read the thread. Is there any suggestions for flattenening busts? I want to crossplay as Cloud Strife or Miki Kaoru, but my breast are too big :(.

Look at the thread on binding. The entire thing is about chest-flattening.

DivineSage
04-02-2005, 01:54 AM
Hey. I know this thread is all about lessening your waists, butts, etc., but I was hoping for some specific tips. I'm planning on crossplaying chaos from Xenosaga for AX:

http://www.gaming-media.com/rpg/xenosaga/images/chaos.jpg

http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v283/babydada/carchase12.jpg

I was wondering... since it's like a black bodysuit... how do I pull it off? If it requires padding (which I'm guessing it will) can I have a tutorial? Thanks.

codi
04-15-2005, 07:04 PM
And in addition... running, running, and more running... exercise can help. Binding is your friend... sports bra, ace bandage, bingo. ;p

These are awesome, awesome tips everyone, so thanks for the ideas. ^o^

However, I am not cosplaying a guy... I'm cosplaying as a 12-yr old boy. (Bao from King of Fighters)
see this picture (http://100won.pe.kr/2d/kof2000/images/picCharBao.jpg)
this one too (http://www.adfinformatique.fr/fichiers/wallpapers/kof99_bao.jpg)

I'm working on the exercise, oh believe me. But I still have big hips/smaller (I didn't say small as I'd like, but proportionally speaking, it reminds me of the guy at the end of the Beetlejuice movie with the shrunken head/big body. XD) waist regardless. Do you think, because of the way the costume is designed, I should go for padding my waist? If so, what would be the best item to use for it? (looking for brand name, etc.) Thank you ~_~;

TenshiKaitou
06-08-2005, 04:16 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/PrisSaz/June%204th%20Fest/PIC_0078.jpg

gawwh, I have fat thighs! See below! See see! What to do...? T___T
though I can hide them with my coat, but there are certain poses like this that absolutely ruin the effect. What to do? What to do?

On the other hand, I'm 'blessed' with small breasts?! :sulk:

P.S Should I add shoulder pads for better visual?

Aelia
06-19-2005, 02:48 PM
Running is your friend as far as your legs are concerned, but there's still the pesky fat on the inner thigh... any suggestions for this from anyone?

Tenshi:
With the way the shadows fall, that actually doesn't look too bad, but if you're very worried, try another pose, widen the distance between your feet a bit, it'll make more of a gap appear between your legs, making them a bit thinner looking. (you can't widen it too much, or you'll just look silly, so this has limited practical application)

I don't know about the hips thing, because... once you have them, there's no way to get rid of them, you just have to visually change your shape, use fabric patterns, create optical illusions, think "I HAVE NO WAIST" ~_^

My biggest issue is my butt, I think, but there's no fat to speak of that I can take off. Any suggestions from folks on ways to hide that?

Edit:
I hear speak of compression tops. Well... are there any that have been tried and really work?

Mugiwara
06-20-2005, 11:06 PM
I've personally found that stairs are a great way of working out your upper legs. I took Irish dancing for three years, so I've still got some nice shape left over from that, too. ^^;; (Good lord, if you want good cardiac and leg excercise, take up Irish dancing... ouch.)
My biggest problem with crossplaying is actually that i'm so skinny - I've got broadish, very square shoulders and essentially no chest, but it means that i have a half hour-glass figure: nothingnothingnothingHIPS!!

My costume this year won't allow for much padding/messing with waist -age if i plan to wear it without the undershirt (which i hope to - anyone know anything about doing open-shirted costumes...? Double-stick tape...?). Luckily for me the main feature of the outfit is a loose trenchcoat, so that should help cover some sticky-out-bits.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ixof6ix/Kuroro/amada_hisoka_200.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ixof6ix/Kuroro/12_03_20.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ixof6ix/Kuroro/08_08_21.jpg

As for body language, I have gotten so many compliments on how I walk in-character. ^_^ My advice is just to get a feel for how the character's personality would affect their walk, and try it out around town! <3 Are they arrogant? Then stride. Shy? Lope. Silly? Walk bow-legged. I've gone as both Luffy from One Piece and Karasu from Yuu Yuu Hakusho in one convention, and nobody recognised me at all once I switched.

[EDIT] Just read the sticky on binding - Sports Tape, here I come!

TenshiKaitou
06-25-2005, 05:05 PM
To Mugiwara: Walking up the stairs...? aw, mendoukuse na...but for the sake of cosplay (decides to drag lazy ass up stairs instead) ...

And you has done Luffy before? I'm goin to do it too! But I kinda done the vest too tight, and no matter how tight I bind my chest, it still stuck out quiye visibly. I was thinking of adding another layer to the waist to even out the figure, and I looked like a slightly bloated Luffy in the end, oh well... >.<;;

P.S I wish I was able to see how you walked for Luffy! It would be fun! XD

Agent Conzilla
06-26-2005, 11:55 AM
I have an ass...And I want to crossplay as Die, who has zippidy doo dah, zilch, nothing, nada, in the ways of Buttness --;

I wanna do the Myaku outfit. He wears like three belts, so I dont think I'd need to pad my small-as-hell waist ...But I'm not really sure. Should I? ( I've got 28", which is a curse, not a gift). :sulk:

http://members19.clubphoto.com/kaede731583/2448523/guest.phtml <- Pictures of the outfit, yay! I haven't started making it yet though @@;; I just have most of it planned...and luckily the means to make the metal accents xD (Carparts. Yes. Carparts. Don't you look at me like that, it's going to work. I'll make it work.).

Ishy
07-15-2005, 10:17 PM
Hey Everyone! I am definitely trying to make my Faust (fromg Guilty Gear) costume look right, the problem? He is 9 feet tall and has HUGE shoulders (disproportionatley so). I have been using hockey chest and shoulder padding and trying to fit my costume around that, but I am not sure if that is the best wayt to go about it. Does anyone have any recommendations for making huge shoulders? Or should I just stick with the hockey gear?

Ayame0
07-15-2005, 11:56 PM
I have an ass...And I want to crossplay as Die, who has zippidy doo dah, zilch, nothing, nada, in the ways of Buttness --;

I wanna do the Myaku outfit. He wears like three belts, so I dont think I'd need to pad my small-as-hell waist ...But I'm not really sure. Should I? ( I've got 28", which is a curse, not a gift). :sulk:

http://members19.clubphoto.com/kaede731583/2448523/guest.phtml <- Pictures of the outfit, yay! I haven't started making it yet though @@;; I just have most of it planned...and luckily the means to make the metal accents xD (Carparts. Yes. Carparts. Don't you look at me like that, it's going to work. I'll make it work.).
It's true that Die has absolutely _no_ ass. But with Myaku, you should be fine (btw, the link doesn't work, I just know the costume a lot ^^). Also, Die is very very skinny, which means that his waist is probably about as small as yours (actually, I think it's 30" or 34") so you should be fine there too, as long as it doesn't look weird.
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Agent Conzilla
07-17-2005, 02:39 PM
Btw, a small waist is not a curse XD

Lmao. XD It is too when you're trying to shop for jeans ;-; Danke though ^^

Shota
07-20-2005, 02:03 PM
Hm, okay, so I have quite a large butt. It's the biggest problem with my body. It just... sticks out. I was wondering if there are any specific excersizes I can do to make my butt look smaller? Because I can't walk everyday, and I don't have stairs in my house. I need something I can do inside the house, that will still be effect.

kabuki_KILLER
11-19-2005, 02:27 PM
I don't really have a problem with creating more shoulders and less hips. I have fairly decent, angled (not round) shoulders compared to a lot of girls my size and flat hips/butt. The flatness of the hips also makes my legs appear short. -_-

One of the things that annoys me is my upper thighs. No matter how much skinner I get, the upper thigh is always bigger than I'd like. My feminine thighs annoy me greatly. Is there any way to make them look less noticeable? I've actually heard that running makes your legs thicker (opposite of what I want). Hmmm. **shrugs**

bakachibineko
01-07-2006, 11:54 AM
I think what I'll have the most problems with is binding. I already have the 'man-shoulders', and as I'm FAT, I have little to know curves, really, so that's no problem. Wide hips and a big butt may be a bit of a problem for me, too. :( These topics helped a lot, though!

Kuro Yue
01-08-2006, 05:34 PM
For toning down the inner thighs, what works very nicely is what some call a 'Jane Fonda' - where you lay on your side, place the foot of the leg on top by your hips (so that it makes a kind of 'house' over your bottom leg), and lift the bottom leg up and down for about forty-five times, or until it hurts.

Now, as for my question - In five months, I plan to do a crossplay in which the character's midriff is completely exposed. His chest is covered nicely, so there's no problem with binding showing, but how do I hide my waist in this instance?

Legatosgurl
01-14-2006, 09:36 PM
Lol! According to that, I walk like a guy! >.< At least Crossplaying should be easier.

R-chan
01-27-2006, 08:51 PM
Oh, I know the feeling, Hitori. I'm going to do Gohan's Kai outfit, which also has white pants. Fortunately, my butt will be completely covered by a very long coat, so I shouldn't have any issues there.

Which store were you looking in, Spatx? I've considered hunting around for shaping garments that might help if I utterly fail to lose weight or tone particular muscles. But I don't know quite where to start looking.
ah fellow Z fighter. I'll be doing trunks's green kai. instead of making it one outfit. I made it into 2 and then tuck it in. all i can think of his a girdle to hide my junk. so from what y'all said, I should make his belt looser and lower. OK great advice. I just hope i can pull it off :3

yamibakura03
02-07-2006, 10:12 AM
Lol! According to that, I walk like a guy! >.< At least Crossplaying should be easier.

realy? lol. i have no problem with waist or hips. actually im skinny like and i have a nice shaped for a guy. just need to bind my chest and voola im a guy. hehe funny how people think your one even at school. darn short hair >.<

itoshigo
04-09-2006, 03:48 AM
Would foam work for smooth padding?
I don't know about foam, never worked with it like the others may have.
However, for photo's I take, if a guy needs to look more buff, we use bubble wrapping.
It's turned smooth-side-out, of course, but it helps to give the more "beefy" look. ^-^

Hope that helps some!


Running is your friend as far as your legs are concerned, but there's still the pesky fat on the inner thigh... any suggestions for this from anyone? I've been recommended to use the tennis ball techinque by professionals, magazines, but first from my mum. ^-^''

Basically, just try to hold the tennis ball between the knees, (not any other! too small/big and not enough give!!) and squeeze your thighs together several times. ^-^
Hope that was helpful!

Hm, okay, so I have quite a large butt. It's the biggest problem with my body. It just... sticks out. I was wondering if there are any specific excersizes I can do to make my butt look smaller? Because I can't walk everyday, and I don't have stairs in my house. I need something I can do inside the house, that will still be effect.I have a similar problem, so I feel ya! x_x
Well, first I'd suggest running around in your back yard if you have one.
If not, then try pacing while on the phone and standing in a yoga-esque position while washing dishes are some alternatives.

Hmm... in-door activities...
There's always DDR, I know that the Konamix version has an exercise portion with calorie counter.....

Also, try dancing!!
If I have time, I turn on either the stereo or the TV and dance to whatever music is playing. It really helps me stay active when busy!
It's a nice way to add that recommended 30 min. of cardio a day as well~ >_0 Dancing is always good for lower body exercise.

If those don't suit you, try using this search (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=butt+minimizing+workouts&spell=1) on butt-toning. ^-^
Best wishes!

Nachoman
04-18-2006, 01:44 AM
I went through all this thread and noted that only Karisu-Sama has made a passing remark to the true necesity to keep the knees separated:
Boys take more space. I guess it has to be social conditioning...
It is NOT social conditioning! Its a concern that plagues every guy outside those who actually enjoy excruciating pain. Every boy above the age of five must already have developed the basic instincts, and every boy at the age of ten already implements them so smoothly that he doesn't even notice his own actions.
Lets put things in perspective: You thing that we boys make a big deal when every boy winces when one gets a ball between the legs? Now, why do people make such a big deal when you see an obviously pregnant woman be kicked on the gut? I don't think That particular pain would be particularly physical (at least for the woman), yet the "low hit" on the man is a purely physical pain. Or, to be more precise, pure white pain extending from below the belt line and extending to all the pelvic cavity. I've compared the pain to other kinds: the pain of a mid-powered kick on the balls is about as intense as being poured a cup of boiling water on your chest, just below asking the dentist not to use anesthetics (I did it once, being me a mayor coward toward needles), and some way above a generous splash of pure alcohol on an open knee (This last one I've received repeatedly).

So, in order for you ladies to have a workable example, imagine you have two minuscule Morning Stars with very short chains hanging from the front of your panties: you know it'll hurt like hell if you make the wrong moves, yet you know that by simply giving then some space you'll be able to mostly ignore them.
Then there are jerks like John Wayne who keep their legs wide enough to give birth to pineapples, yet lets ignore their example.

Anyway, getting straight the importance of keeping your knees apart, notice that guys do have something there. If no bulk shows, the impression is incomplete.

Sandwichzombie
05-09-2006, 07:31 PM
For toning down the inner thighs, what works very nicely is what some call a 'Jane Fonda' - where you lay on your side, place the foot of the leg on top by your hips (so that it makes a kind of 'house' over your bottom leg), and lift the bottom leg up and down for about forty-five times, or until it hurts.

Basically, just try to hold the tennis ball between the knees, (not any other! too small/big and not enough give!!) and squeeze your thighs together several times. ^-^
Hope that was helpful!

I suppose I'm sort of lucky, since I have virtually no hips, but my thighs always look girly whatever I do. So I'm going to try these out and hope it helps!

Rem Akimichi
05-11-2006, 09:30 PM
Ah, does anyone know if those slimming shorts are simular or the same as control top pantyhose? Because it might just be cheaper to buy some of those and cut off the pantyhose part, yeah? (or, in my case, take scissors to the ones I hate...er...have.)

ShinraSlave
05-18-2006, 10:53 AM
To those who are looking for slimming pants, I found this site which seems to have some possibilites. They are slightly expensive, but worth it if it helps!

UnderWorks (http://www.underworks.com/)

These look like they could be especially useful.

Firm Compression Shorts (http://www.underworks.com/901.html)

Sorry if this is viewed as spam, I don't work for the store in any way, I just found it, liked it and thought that other curvy crossplayers might like it as well.

Rayvah
06-16-2006, 12:15 PM
I am planning to make a Dark Riku costume for next year.

Dark Riku (http://www.geocities.com/Kh2info/DarkRiku.jpg)

And was looking for a foam muscle chest/arm shirt that I could then layer with the material I'd use for the outfit.

However, all the foam suits that I find are insanely huge, Superman/Hulk style things. I'm pretty tall, and large boned. I don't need anything that big -- I just wanted something to make the look of the muscles, super-lean.

Finding something would be way easier than trying to build my own (I wouldn't even know where to start on that! :eeek: )

Does anyone know? (pweeze?)

galaxiahime
07-11-2006, 12:00 PM
I am planning to make a Dark Riku costume for next year.

Dark Riku (http://www.geocities.com/Kh2info/DarkRiku.jpg)

And was looking for a foam muscle chest/arm shirt that I could then layer with the material I'd use for the outfit.

However, all the foam suits that I find are insanely huge, Superman/Hulk style things. I'm pretty tall, and large boned. I don't need anything that big -- I just wanted something to make the look of the muscles, super-lean.

Finding something would be way easier than trying to build my own (I wouldn't even know where to start on that! :eeek: )

Does anyone know? (pweeze?)

I'm actually going to use a Batman costume for my D crossplay. It has the muscles, but they're not insanely huge. Just a bit of padding to make me look more manly o.O I have the same tall/large bone build, and rather than just get a unitard and try to stuff it, I'm going to cheat >.<

Angelic Dead
07-13-2006, 11:04 AM
When I cosplay guys, I always wrap my breast. Once I even tapped them down the duct tape. (I was wearing a sports bra underneath the tap)

I do know like a victora secrets they do sell items that will slim down your butt and hips.

I really hate it when a girl is crosplaying, but doesn't take the effort to get rid of those annoying un-manly boobs. LOL

Kuku-kachoo
07-14-2006, 11:49 AM
To those who are looking for slimming pants, I found this site which seems to have some possibilites. They are slightly expensive, but worth it if it helps!

UnderWorks (http://www.underworks.com/)

These look like they could be especially useful.

Firm Compression Shorts (http://www.underworks.com/901.html)

Sorry if this is viewed as spam, I don't work for the store in any way, I just found it, liked it and thought that other curvy crossplayers might like it as well.

I recently bought those shorts in an extra small, and I don't recommend them. =\

They're just like sports shorts, really flexible, and really accentuate your curves. It doesn't compress at all, only the tummy section but not the hips and thighs. I was disappointed. ;-; i have still yet to find a good pair of shorts to compress my huge butt. XD;; [[ 37" hips, and I'm -really- petite. x_x; ]]

Shelke
07-21-2006, 08:19 PM
all in all i'm not like a size 0 but either way if i starved myself my hips would still be wider than most girls cause of my genes... i dont mind too much i think hips are sexy. LOL.

...and my hips don't lie and ...
sry random song moment

but Im cosplaying Axel. who is like size -7. and his hips are probably 10 inches around hahahaha.

So thats the reason i wanna go as an organization coat because they naturally give both the men and women a curve. O_o.

Melodious_me
07-23-2006, 08:33 PM
Ohhh.. I'm in a bit of a spot.

I really really want to Cosplay Sanosuke Sagara from Kenshin..But I have a big problem.

I've tried to bind with Ace Bandages and such, which works..Fairly well..
But Sano only wears those bandages around his tummy...And I plan on raising them..But..I have a problem with the whole sports bra thing...

But I'd have to cut the straps for the costume, and I'm afraid a Sports bra wouldn't quite holed me up. Aha ha.

If anyone could understand that, kudos! Help would be very nice.
If you need pictures ask!

itoshigo
07-26-2006, 05:30 AM
I myself have an interest in crossplay, I've always thought it to be great fun! ^-^ From manga, anime, reg. tv, anything that involves it I'll take a peek.

So, "what's the point?" Right??
Well, the other day, I was channel-surfing and stopped on Nick's Zoey101 when I saw what they were doing.
One of the main girl's was cross-dressing to prove a point.

Then they showed how the girls of the show were making a believable boy out of the one girl, I thought, "D***! That's a great idea!!"

So,...
A new-ish tip for those of us lady to fellow crossers!

For some of us, we'll still need light binding, but under neath the main costume, try using a sort of "muscle suit."
Example:
http://xodiac.fo.cx/onyxmuscle.html

It'd do the basics that padding can, add shoulder breadth, and it'll hide a multiude of feminity. ^o~


Oh!! I forgot!
I was trying out some idea for simpler costumes, where a muscle suit might be too much, and came across an idea.
Try to use a blazer if you're doing a casual oufit crossplay, specifically one with pin tucking on the back, around natural high waist.

The pin tucks will add to the effect of the shoulders being broad; and if the blazer has light padding, that's even better.
For how to use the blazer, try to wear it in the typical "mafia fashion."
Googled another example:http://www.geocities.com/maryspage2002/mafia4.jpg

*phew!!*
That's all I've got for now at least! ^-^'''
Best wishes,
Ito

AmazonPrincess
09-01-2006, 03:18 AM
Has anyone tried Spanx to slim the butt/hips/thighs? I've heard it works well as an all-over smoother sort of garment, not quite shapewear, not quite a girdle but more industrial strength control top pantyhose...

I'm curious to see if it helps with crossplay.

amaya_nin
09-12-2006, 03:38 AM
Hello ^^ I was wandering if someone could help me with this, not sure if this goes in here but I'll throw it out there. I'm cosplaying as Fai/Fye/Fay how you spell it ( for those who don't know who it is http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a310/edwardpuhh/fai04.jpg his the blond on the left) as you can see..his..beyond small and I'm a..well rounded out girl, I'll have his big coat over that outfit but not all the time (its going to be hot)

AquaHaute
09-15-2006, 12:17 AM
Does that bubblewrap technique at the waist work if you're wearing a bodysuit over it? I want to crossplay Solid Snake sometime and I'm planning ways to do so effectively - my facial structure will never pass but I want to do as good a job as possible.

tsukishiro.chan
10-08-2006, 10:58 PM
i dont think i'll make a very good guy, but im planning to crossplay sometime. I'm sorta short, and my waist goes in too much to look guy-ish. i dunno if i have broad or narrow shoulders, but you can check my gallery. i have short legs, and a long waist. A good thing i have going for me, is that im kind flat chested so i can just wear a regular bra and such. so any tips? if this is in the wrong area, then.....forget i asked i guess

Megx
10-15-2006, 11:42 AM
The best tip I really have for getting rid of the curve that goes from hip to waist is to create a renaissance style corest, omitting just enough of the boning that you can wear it lowe on the body. Those styles of corsets are ALL flat, no room for boobage, and if you wear it around the waist and hips, backwards, then you get rid of that 'natural' curve. This works best if you have the chance to wear a bodysuit or if your waist is covered.

Epi_lepsia
11-12-2006, 07:18 AM
Okay, i'm pretty thin. But i have a big, bouncy, femenine butt. How can i disimulate it? i have tried everything and bandage doesn't work T~T is there any sport shorts or something it could help? I've already read the tips above, and i need *specifically* tips for disimulating my butt, everything is useful.

Thanks T_T

BY THE WAY: i crossplay a lot... bbut this time i must use tight shorts for the costume...!

kyo^fangirl
11-13-2006, 03:47 PM
I could probablly find the answer by back reading, but I'm lazy... :) What do I do if I'm a big girl? Big as in, I have wide hips naturally?

Cosplayangel09
11-23-2006, 05:54 PM
a few mniutes ago, i dug in my closet 4 an ace bandage i knew was there and bound my bosom. im still wearing it but it hurts. actually its not hurting as much as it did about 2 minutes ago. i looked in the mirror and i do kinda look...masculine.

Kuro Yue
11-23-2006, 07:23 PM
kyo^fangirl - Do you have wide shoulders as well? If you do, you can get away with just a little padding and you'd look like a broader guy (personal experience). If your shoulders are 'normal girl size', then I guess the only way to go is to insert shoulder pads in your costumes.

FullMetal Tora
11-24-2006, 02:43 PM
Okay, I know how everyone was talking about standing on both legs in the "guy stance" and all.... but I'm cosplaying as Uchiha Sasuke from Naruto and that guy is the king of slouching! He's always standing with his weight on one leg... but when i tried it, it looked girly... >.< Also, i tried making the costume baggy to hide my curves, but sometimes i get the feeling it just makes me look fat... Anywho, here are some pics, maybe someone could give me some tips or a little encouragement or something...

http://uchiha-akari.blogspot.com/

Kuro Yue
11-24-2006, 10:39 PM
I might have a solution:

When girls put the weight on one foot, they tend to jut out a hip. When guys do it, they keep their torso straight (or it appears that they keep their torso straight, because they lack hips).

(Actually, my little brother tends to put most of his weight on one foot, and he ends up being completely slanted o.O)

FullMetal Tora
11-25-2006, 02:54 PM
*nod* that makes sense... so i guess i'll just try standing really, really straight while slouching.... somehow... >.<

Nachoman
11-26-2006, 07:13 PM
Tora:
You do look kind of fat, but in male proportions.

FullMetal Tora
11-26-2006, 08:39 PM
so... is that bad? how do i fix it?

SoranoRonin.
12-03-2006, 05:30 PM
I'm not sure if anyone has said this, since I skipped two whole pages, but what I have to say is about this weight issue.

For girls who are still developing, it isn't always genetics that gives you your curves. It also goes with all the fat that you eat. The fat that isn't burnt off is used to fill out your "girly parts" (boobs/hips/butt), you can loose the extra fat though. As of how, I don't know. Though if you don't want your boobs to get bigger don't do what they did in Grease. (heels of hands together and push, it works out your muscles). Eat healthier girls!

AnimeLore
01-13-2007, 02:04 AM
Someone mentioned those shorts that slim your hips a bit. Anyone have a good make/model that they use? I'm looking for a good pair...

Thanks!

Yahriel
02-06-2007, 03:39 AM
wow, great thread. (especially Karisu's post on mannerisms).
Guess I'm luck to have picked Zack (from FFVII. Here's a pic: Clicky (http://www.cosplaysupplies.com/wonderflex/Wonderflex_FP_FAQ.html) and Clicky again (http://abyss.itf-inc.com/temp/Zack/Zack8000.jpeg)). That should REALLY accent shoulder width.
It's the pants I'm worried about... granted they are dark (navy), and baggy, but they bag more around the thighs. (lol crotchshot (http://abyss.itf-inc.com/temp/Zack/Zack-mid000.jpeg) and torso (http://abyss.itf-inc.com/temp/Zack/overallZack1000.jpeg))
Just trying scrubs on I found it really changes the overall apperence just based on how high or low I wear the pants.

No way I can get my arms to look like that (http://abyss.itf-inc.com/temp/Zack/overallZack1000.jpeg) but at least I've gotten more arm muscle from my job. ^_^
Would careful application of makeup make my arms appear more muscular?

Queen Anime 99
02-07-2007, 11:04 PM
To me, you look pretty masculine. Especially your legs. I can still kinda see your boobs, though. :D You don't look fat at all.
Okay, I know how everyone was talking about standing on both legs in the "guy stance" and all.... but I'm cosplaying as Uchiha Sasuke from Naruto and that guy is the king of slouching! He's always standing with his weight on one leg... but when i tried it, it looked girly... >.< Also, i tried making the costume baggy to hide my curves, but sometimes i get the feeling it just makes me look fat... Anywho, here are some pics, maybe someone could give me some tips or a little encouragement or something...

http://uchiha-akari.blogspot.com/

Sexy Kat-Kashi
02-27-2007, 03:56 PM
hey im going 2 start crossplaying and i already have brod shoulders for a girl(cause im a swimmer) and im thinking of crossplaying as Axel, Hiei, and Hikaru(ouran hostclub) i kinda have no boobs already but should i put them down and if so how cna i do that 2 wear my mom(who says taping them down is bad for u)wont notice or realy find out?

Train-Kun
03-06-2007, 07:56 AM
Hmm... yeah. I haven't cosplayed as a guy but Im about too. As Train Heartnet. lol ^^ I will need help with hiding more of the chest area... and hips... ;.; *sigh* Helpies.

gaaraxtsuki
03-07-2007, 09:12 AM
Sorry, I posted something in the wrong thread...

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Train-Kun
03-07-2007, 11:07 AM
o.o i need help with this thing though xD

gaaraxtsuki
03-07-2007, 02:52 PM
I haven't a clue. ^_^ Try Sports Tape, is my guess. I'm stuck on this thing too...^^;

Miss_Kaoru
03-08-2007, 06:42 PM
I cosplay several guys and my best friend found a cool way to give your face the illusion of a little bit more masculinity. First, guys eyebrows are naturally lower than a girls, so if you can conseal your eyebrows with a little bit of base, and redraw them right underneath your real ones, use small strokey lines to create the illusion of small hairs (a curved line above your eye looks fake ppl). Second apply a small amount of Dark powder (eyeshadow or blush as long as it look like a shadow.) along your jawline by your neck, to create the illusion of a more defined jaw. It takes practice and a lot of patience to get the right colors going but it works awesome! (hint: get an artist to draw the individual hairs on)

RedeadDie
03-17-2007, 03:45 AM
I love this thread. It's just what crossplaying girls like us need. Anyways, I found that plastic wrap isn't always the best thing to bind things. We had my older sister use it to bind her chest, but somehow she ended up looking like she had a larger belly than usual. Sports bras and duck tape always works, but last crossplay I did I used bandage wraps and it worked pretty well, but it was more painful to wear than duck tape.

I don't really know any tips for making your hips, thighs, and/or butt look smaller except for going to the gym and working out those areas. I've been doing that recently and I've lost around 23 lbs in less than two months.

Kageri
03-24-2007, 12:00 AM
I've seen shoulder pads mentioned here, but what kind of shoulder pads or improvisational shoulder-padlike material should one use, and where would one get them? I don't think anyone's said that...

nite chan
03-29-2007, 12:04 AM
What if your cosplaying a character that has big hips. Like Sora from Kingdom Hearts. ><
Would it work if the waist was pulled in to make the hips look bigger? Or would that just look silly? O_o;

salazar
04-11-2007, 05:02 PM
for the narrow shouldered people: if you have the time or inclination, one way to increase the dimensions of your shoulders is to build up your deltoid muscles (the upper part of the arm/shoulder). look up excercises online, there's an endless supply of them. i got really fast results when i started, which was nice ^.^. another plus: this muscle group is one that i've noticed is generally emphasized in manga/anime.

VII Fangirl
04-11-2007, 06:54 PM
Bah... I think I'm cursed. To start, I'm 5'2" with a 38" hip at 110 lbs. I've bought and worn those thigh control shorts, dance tights, unitard, and tight pants all at the same time. And do you know what happens?

I get the best damn chick ass evar (http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h173/AerithReborn/n23931626_32469523_5772.jpg).

It's great for things like Jenova (http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h173/AerithReborn/n23931626_32469523_5772.jpg), but useless for Roxas and his anti-ass (he destroys the asses of those around him). I understand that half of my problem is the way I was standing (ankles together isn't flattering to any gender), but it's the hipbone itself that's a problem, not fat.

Oh, and pants are evil. I can't find anything without a tapered leg. Thank god that Roxas has those wide leg pants to hide my thighs in. Skinny jeans just make me look girly...

Digitallica
04-12-2007, 12:05 AM
I crossplay, a lot.
And it's difficult because I've got very noticable hips and I've got to bind a -lot.-

I haven't had much success with a bair of hip-slimming shorts, and I've learned that the only way to really get away with a good crossplay when you aren't stick thin, is to have a top that is incredible long, or a baggy outfit. I have a jumpsuit that makes me look very boyish, which I'm slowly converting into my Harry Macdougall Racing outfit.

The kind of outfit you do, is a huge factor in how well the crossplay is. Fortunately for me, I only cosplay pretty boys...so half the battle is already won.

RedeadDie
04-12-2007, 12:09 AM
Surprisingly, there's quite a few guys in anime/games/etc. who have outfits that can make you look slimmer in the thigh department just by wearing the outfit. Truth be told, black is actually slimming. (Even though we've heard it a million times.) From my what I've done, cloak and trench coat like crossplays thin you out more and the darker the better. (Too bad my next crossplay is Xemnas's Final Form. White mainly.)

Bilbaro
04-23-2007, 06:42 PM
Aw bugger... My brother actually told me at one point when I bought heels for a costume that I "walk like a guy" and he actually had to teach me how to walk like a girl. Unfortunately, despite all masculine tendencies, the mandatory long-hair I've had since birth has prevented any complimentary gender-blending on my part. I remember Karisu-sama saying at one point that her hips were actually only three or four inches larger than her husbands, and instead the difference was in the waist. Men in general have shorter torsos than women (its REALLY obvious in female body builders) and they're often wider, but you can escape that since its really just another assumption of society. If you're healthy and muscular, all you need to do is stand tall, bind yourself, and keep a steriotypically male haircut and you'd be surprised what pronouns people are calling you.

NaughtsApproach
05-04-2007, 01:14 PM
I have wide hips..but I can't slim them cause you can still see my hip bones...>.>....like freaking Kuja hips is what I have!
you can't really use ace bandage to hide the wide of your hip bones..and I dont really want to pad my waist so I have to deal with it.

Creative Genius
05-04-2007, 01:57 PM
>.>...that was me...My sister NEVER logs out after she is done!

genevievedee
05-10-2007, 02:23 AM
Here I will demonstrate the awesome power of stretchy jeans and a t-shirt. So, I have a 26" waist and 36" hips. However, I was BLESSED with extremely wide, square shoulders which REALLY helps the illusion of creating a masculine body by widening your waist and lengthening your torso. If you have narrow shoulders, PAD THEM.

This year at ComiCon I will be going as Wilbur Robinson from Meet the Robinsons. Yeah, very scrawny thirteen-year-old boy. Yikes. At least I'm fairly scrawny myself. Luckily with my build and the help of costuming illusions it's very possible. I have 16% body fat (18 BMI) which is the BARE minimum for women so exercising to lose hip fat is out of the question. If you feel my hips, there's no fat there, it's all bone. It's not going to go away.

SO today I went shopping for jeans for my costume and I should have paid more attention to the style and size that I bought because at the time I had no idea how much that influenced my bodily shape until I read this thread. Luckily I picked out a pair that I think will be PERFECT.

Here's a photo of the way the jeans I picked out today are supposed to be worn and it also shows my hourglass shape. These are stretchy jeans with narrow legs but they're not skinny jeans. It didn't specify the exact style on the tag. They fit my hips and thighs snugly but there's a couple inches of room around the waist. Which allows me to do this...

First, some "before" pictures.
My "shelf" hips: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/sweetpea_grubb/5-9-07005.jpg
The typical "S" shape that girls take on:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/sweetpea_grubb/5-9-07011.jpg

The create the illusion of boy hips - make sure your pants are loose enough to pull down a couple inches but tight enough to stay on your hips. Luckily I'm going to be tucking my shirt in which widens my waist and I'll be wearing a belt so it'll add some extra anti-pants-fall-down factor plus the belt will be going around my hips so I can even use it to slim them down even more (as long as it doesn't hinder my movement). Just pull down the pants so the crotch sits an inch-and-a-half to two inches lower than your own crotch. The idea is to let your shirt hide your narrow waist (this may even work for shirts that are not tucked in), to make your thighs appear more slender, and to make your torso longer.

Like so:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/sweetpea_grubb/5-9-07006.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/sweetpea_grubb/5-9-07009.jpg
The 3/4 view that was mentioned. Note that I even have my hip cocked and I still look boy-shaped!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/sweetpea_grubb/5-9-07007.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/sweetpea_grubb/5-9-07010.jpg
Tiny boy butt:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/sweetpea_grubb/5-9-07008.jpg

I'm going to buy a chest compression shirt to help with my chest and the girly pudge on my tummy. I may even make some sort of padding for the sides of my waist and put that under the compression shirt.

I'll come back here and show pictures of my costume while I work on it.

ballet shoes
05-25-2007, 09:54 PM
My figure is extremely hour glass so I'm a little worried about my Shuichi costume (the concert outfit) as his stomach is and therefore hips are extremely exposed but hopefully I'll find a way!

DinoThnderBlack
05-29-2007, 09:30 AM
My problem/question is this: I've got a big butt. Yup. Biiig ghetto booty, junk in my trunk, and so on. I also have quite impressive birthing hips. Due to the fact that I have PCOS, which by default deposits ALL of my blubber to my backside, hips and thighs, there's not really much I can do about it. Exercise does very little, it's a genetic thing, lucky me. -_-

At least I have practically no breasts of which to speak. This is the one time when that fact pleases me.

So, for a girl like me who wants to crossplay as a guy (in head-to-toe spandex, no less)... How do I rein in my booty and tummy pooch? I can try standing as suggested, but clearly I'm going to need some sort of extremely heavy-duty compression garment to at least keep most of the flab under control. (Alas, I'm not made of money right now, so while I'll listen to all suggestions, I'll love you if you can provide a reasonably low-cost one.)

I look fine from the neck to the waist, but courtesy of my EVIL ovaries and endocrine system, everything between waist and knees is... in need of some help. And it needs this help very, very quickly, because my con is rapidly approaching.

Hyuuga Tenten
06-06-2007, 02:23 PM
Yea how do you do all the padding and posing with lose pants if the character your crossplaying wheres almost skintight everything except for the armor how would I do that?

------->http://photobucket.com/mediadetail/?media=http%3A%2F%2Fi154.photobucket.com%2Falbums% 2Fs258%2Fitachisasuke95%2Fhaseo.jpg&searchTerm=Haseo&pageOffset=3

thats him ...... *sigh*

Bree The V.
06-19-2007, 11:07 AM
I'm not sure if someone already asked this before, I went through the thread and looked around, but didn't find anything about bottoms.

My butt is disproportional to my body. In other words, it's just HUGE. It's the true definition of badonkadonk.

What can I do to make it smaller?

this_chick25
06-19-2007, 02:22 PM
How do I rein in my booty and tummy pooch? I can try standing as suggested, but clearly I'm going to need some sort of extremely heavy-duty compression garment to at least keep most of the flab under control. (Alas, I'm not made of money right now, so while I'll listen to all suggestions, I'll love you if you can provide a reasonably low-cost one.)

I'm working on the same thing myself--I thought of taping the old boo-tay to hold it in, but the eventual calling of nature prevents that particular option from being possible... Looks like the only available way to go there are those shaping briefs. Since I have a "musclebutt" (BIG for my size, but very little fat content), I'm not sure how effective THAT will even be...

You can, however, tape the "tummy pooch" (heh, my mom calls it that too!) to get a smoother line. My aunt did that as an addition to her workout routine to actually shape her waist; she says it works like a "sweat band" and helps you to lose additional weight while shaping you at the same time. Use the widest sports tape you can find, and practice in advance of wearing it to the con.

Compression garments aren't really expensive either (vs. sports tape over the long run)--you can get a decent one for about $30 (shipping may add to the cost) if you do the research. Since you can only use sports tape once (and sometimes have to use a whole roll at one go), $2-$3 a roll adds up if you're going to do a lot of binding in the future.

kabuki_ikenie
06-22-2007, 09:58 AM
i discovered something the other day... since i'm doing a bare chested male character as my next costume, i did a tight shirt for simulating bare skin... since i'm very curvy and i do have huge hips, i looked awful... SO the solution i saw was this:

elongate the torso by simulating a higher chest...

how to do this? first, find the place where your waist ends, it should look like the "birth" of the curve that starts your hips (it's like from the belly-button)... you must hide that curve (and with that your hips and butt), so every piece of bottom clothing (pants, shorts) must hang in that area (or a little bit down)... is your butt is thick (like mine) or if you have big hips, pants should be a little bit loose on that area, and should be "bootleg": narrow at the knees, wide bottoms... this way you can balance how your legs look...

i do use slimming garments beneath everything, esp. my legs

now with the top: binding is essential. since female chest drops lower than male chest, try to pad or to rise your chest a bit higher. shoulder pads or a little bit of foam can work as fake chest muscles, esp beneath the skin shirt... and if you're going to do a bare-chested character, every little detail (ie nipples) can work in giving the illusion of a higher chest

MugenChick1317
06-30-2007, 09:45 AM
I was wondering if anyone could maybe put my mind at ease? I don't know.

Cross-playing Mugen from Samurai Champloo. My costume commissioner took my measurements, and is making my costume to fit me. Although, his usual costume is still very baggy in the shorts, shirt, and coat. I'm 5'2, and I will admit, I am a plus sized cosplayer. I'm not sure if my hips are real big, I think I have seen bigger, and I have always thought my shoulders to be broad (but I could be wrong). Since Mugen's costume is baggy overall, should I do anything to my hips or shoulders? Would it be a big significance, as in, someone noticing? I really can't put my mind at ease until I get my costume, and I won't get that for another 2-3 weeks. And my con is coming up soon. I also have a limited budget, I literally blew most of my cash on the costume itself. Any tips would help, cause this is my first time cosplaying/cross-playing ever.

Tempest_wind
07-23-2007, 06:59 PM
MugenChick, I'd say that since the costume is in someone else's hands, that you should trust their professional judgement. There isn't much that you can do once the costume is made. However, if you think it would help, then shoulder pads might make the costume more baggy in different places and give a better effect. Don't quote me on this, though. I'm new at this as well.


As far as the style of walking and holding yourself go, I discovered something interesting this year. This year, I cosplayed Isabella from Paradise Kiss, and Gojyo from Saiyuki. Isabella, himself, is a crossdresser, so I made a point to try to seem as feminine as possible. (Yay for double-crossdressing!) I wore 2" heels, which I was still unsteady on. Because of this, I walked carefully and slowly, giving the effect of walking daintily. I definitely looked more feminine.

For my Gojyo costume, I got BIG FREAKING HIKING BOOTS. ... OF DEATH. They made it so I couldn't move my ankles, and I swear those 5lb boots grew another pound with each step I took. Because I had to work so hard moving my feet, I wound up sauntering -- for the most part -- and my feet stuck out at opposite sides like a duck (or like a man). I took artistic liscense and claimed that Gojyo saunters like that, and as far as I could tell, I looked and felt more masculine when I walked in those boots.

So... yeah. I totally recommend HUGE FREAKING BOOTS. ... OF DEATH if you need some way to make your walk more masculine.

Also, my acting teacher taught us that men walk with their hips more forward "like they have a 10lb weight between their legs" -- to which we all giggled.

Oh, and for cosplays that require cigarettes and somesuch: I saw a picture of myself as Gojyo with a (candy) cigarette, and I looked too feminine holding it. DON'T, I repeat, DON'T bring your face in close to the cigarette. Pull back away from it as much as possible, and hold your arm outwards.

BlankNohMask
08-19-2007, 02:49 AM
For short people, as dumb as it sounds, go off in edward elric-type rants or moods if your height is commented on (as much as 'denying too much' is believed in, the truth is a person doubts what they know if they are overwhelmed Xp) you technically cant slump too much in alot of cosplays, but if you do that pose wear your shoulders are very far foreward (watch guys and, regardless of foreward-hippy-ness, theyve too much shoulders). it looks like guys go and can reduce 2 cup sizes in a loose shirt (theyll fall over and past them sometimes and they disappear into air)

Hook thumbs in pocket while shoulders are foreward, its similiar to the 'hands on hips' pose girls are addicted to, so its easier to train for

if your cosplay allows, use skin foundation on your lips. I know some guys have red lips, but it generally looks somehow off and you know you dont want an 'off' when your crossplaying.

Such as when girls randomly pull in their stomachs, for no reason, while doing any task, flex your arm mucles as you do things, though its really useless with loose sleeves.

When you talk, make our voice sorta... bored/tired. its less feminine that way, and theres no real 'trills' to it when your in that mood.

oh, and cut your nails sorta square shaped, it helps box-off your fingertips some, as the hands are a big teller for femininty or masculinity as youll notice if you ever glance around a table.

...thats all i can come up with for know off the top of my head. Tell me if theres anything else, im pretty experienced here :p

fma_pwns_u
09-01-2007, 03:04 AM
After reading this entire thread, I'm still convinced that my next costume is impossible to pull off. I'm 5'4'', 115 lbs., and my hips are 40 freaking inches. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, I've got 10 whole inches between my waist and hips! The Gods were kind enough to grant me a flat chest, and I've been working on my upper body most of the summer... but everything from the waist down just makes me want to cry. Look up "pear" in the dictionary, chances are there'll be some reference to me in there. Bishounen's nonexistent asses continue to mock me. And, up until now, I've been smart enough to choose costumes that mask my unfortunate problem. Then the freaking most beautiful piece of fanart that has ever graced my monitor came to me. There might as well have been a choir singing the first time that I saw it, it's that beautiful. Sadly, this divine costume not only will bare my stomach... but it has skin-tight pants. I can't think of any way to cover my hips, butt and thighs. It would be a crime not to do this costume justice, and so I ask of everyone here, the ever helpful members of the crossplay community, to provide whatever assistance they can. Ancient Chinese binding techniques, ass-transplants, poses and stances so flattering they could even make Man-Faye look good... anything at all that could help. I know that no one would try and steal the design, understanding that they'd have their face ripped off with a rusted crowbar and liberally covered in table salt, so I've included the picture below. Hopefully someone will be able to help. I'll keep a close eye on this thread... in the meantime, I'll be hunting down a pair of compression shorts, walking/running/cardio/DDRing, teaching myself how to stand and walk properly, and working on every mannerism I think could ever prove itself useful.

...oh, and, in case anyone's wondering, I've asked the artist for permission to cosplay their design. They said yes. <3

http://rizyukaizen.deviantart.com/art/FMA-Prideful-Alchemist-20746329

moonfall
09-19-2007, 08:31 PM
I'm pretty limited to crossplaying "girly" male characters.
An estimate of my physical characteristics:
5'2
113 lbs
34-28-35

That leaves mostly young or short and skinny guys. The costume I'm working on now is pretty loose-fitting, but you can still kind of see a female-ish shape. Would wearing a belt/sash lower than usual create the illusion of a more masculine body? (The costume is a robe, so I can manage to tie it on the hips rather than the waist.)

AndreaOfTheLand
10-15-2007, 11:39 PM
I read most the previous posts but didn't really see the answer to my dilemma... I want to cosplay Shin from NANA...and I have somewhat of an athletic shape to my thighs and butt... (with a bit of extra fat padding for good measure :) anyway, Shin, like all NANA characters, is ridiculously slender... and shin wears fairly tight pants... is there a way to make the pants seem tight w/o actually being so? Cause not matter what I've tried I can't get that skinny 'guy thigh'... or am i thinking about this in the wrong manner???

Angel Tear
11-09-2007, 08:45 AM
well, I'm thinking about doing a crossplay for Syaoran from Tsubasa someday, but my body structure doesnt match his. I'm 5ft6 ish and he would be so much taller, also, CLAMP body types could be described as "spaghetti limbs" and ridiculously long. I'm not all that leggy either. I've definitely got quite a "bootylicious butt" as my mother puts it, which is my only other flaw. I'm not that big chested and my waist dips in quite a bit. But how do you think I could make my waist less obvious. I'm not too worried as I'll be wearing a cloak. bus still, suggestions would be pretty cool.
Thanks :D

WingedK9
12-10-2007, 09:34 PM
Im planning to crossplay as Grimmjow from bleach

http://home.x-pec.com/chupa/manga/grimjaw.jpg

and unfortunatly wears white. im currently working on the abs and arms to make them more masculine. i have until may so like 5 months to buff up. im
5'9 and weigh about 140, i saw that people recommended many exercises on how to get rid of butt, thank god. the binding that i plan on doing but still need to get, i looked at the binding thread, thanks for the help. but i do have a semi hourglass figure, so my hips stick out a ton, and its the bone, so i cant really sqeeze it smaller, and Grimmjow is pretty openshirted and has low pants.

any suggestions or advice would be mucho apreciated

Ruckus
01-06-2008, 06:11 PM
I just tried crossplaying for the first time at a con this weekend, and bound using ace bandages. While they got my chest pretty flat, after about 10 minutes I was in really really terrible pain, and after and hour or two of walking/sitting at the con, I couldn't stand it anymore. I know that there is some pain involved, but my ribs literally felt like they were puncturing my lungs, and I'm not sure if I did something wrong. Is there a slightly less painful way of binding?

(I've read through almost this entire thread and the ace bandages were the only thing to really get me flat- I also tried a corset and sports bras)

WingedK9
01-06-2008, 06:37 PM
I just tried crossplaying for the first time at a con this weekend, and bound using ace bandages. While they got my chest pretty flat, after about 10 minutes I was in really really terrible pain, and after and hour or two of walking/sitting at the con, I couldn't stand it anymore. I know that there is some pain involved, but my ribs literally felt like they were puncturing my lungs, and I'm not sure if I did something wrong. Is there a slightly less painful way of binding?

(I've read through almost this entire thread and the ace bandages were the only thing to really get me flat- I also tried a corset and sports bras)

go to crossplay.com
i found the best help here
there is another way, in which the boobs are not bound down, but bound away, this is called the open chest method, creates more of a large pecs, image and but not totally flat, but you can have an open shirt too, i tried this method recomended by someone who appeared totally male, but wasnt. she gave me specific instructions for it. which can be adapted from person to person. becasue it isnt actually pushing down on the breast and therefore chest and lungs its doesnt mess with breathing much, though it is a little easier to breathe with your stomach as opposed to the chest.(stomach breathing is when the stomach moves and the chest for the most part doesnt)
best i can do srry
if you want to contact me on crossplay.com, i have the same username

Kaeru
01-19-2008, 11:10 AM
Hah!
I think I'm in love with this thread! xD

Some stuff here's helped me with my future cos. plans! (some I already knew... like the way to walk, I do that normaly! xD)

Now I just gotta start training... xP
Does anyone have some more specific training tips on how to train so that your ass and breast area might look smaller???

ballet shoes
02-16-2008, 03:11 PM
I have a question regarding waist.

I'm working on an Eliot crossplay from Dead of Alive 4. The problem is that the top displays a lot of tummy and waist area. I'm a thin girl so that bit isn't an issue, its just that I have a VERY girlish figue (slim slim waist but rather large hips, think hour glass). Because this will be on view I don't really know how to cover it :( Even though Eliot is very femme he obviously doesn't have an hourglass figure! Please help!

WingedK9
02-17-2008, 04:45 PM
i dont think u really can do anything about hips becasue it is bone, and because his stomach is showing u cant pad waist, i will have same problem with grimmjow

white_rabbit
02-21-2008, 03:52 AM
Just looking for some advice - espeically how i stand/pose etc. i am going to be cosplaying as Agito (Air Gear) and Lavi (D.Gray-man)....thank god they wear baggy tops (especially Lavi), but, I have wide hips (about 40" - all bone no fat, I have a big butt and a stomach..but i am going to wear a body shaper to tuck them in a bit ;)). So anyways, any advice how I could pose more naturally, like a guy, and hide my hips a bit?

Yubel
02-22-2008, 05:00 PM
Hello!

I plan on cosplaying as Mokuba Kaiba and Ryou Bakura from Yu-Gi-Oh! at Anime Boston this year.

Mokuba Picture (http://yuugiou.fran-web.net/Image/Mokuba/19/Mokuba-ep132-02s.jpg)
Bakura Picture 1 (http://yuugiou.fran-web.net/Image/Bakura/BS-06/Bakura-ep84-028-Yamino-s.jpg)
Bakura Picture 2 (http://yuugiou.fran-web.net/Image/Bakura/BS-08/Bakura-ep84-129-unconciouspans.jpg)

I figured that Bakura's open shirt over a t-shirt and Mokuba's yellow waistcoat will do a good job at hiding the waist. HOWEVER, I am cursed with a 36D bust. My proportions would be:

Height - 5'7''
Bust - 39''
Waist - 31''
Hips - 39''

So yup yup, have an hourglass for sure although my ass isn't that big so at least that should help out. However, my thighs are very very girly in appearance... any advice on how to get the "bishie thigh" just a bit more than what I've currently got? :P

And of course, on how to flatten a 36D... SOMEHOW!! *decides to go over to binding thread* What's the least painful for this?

Animangafreak
02-22-2008, 10:19 PM
I've got it all, like I could pass as the female Ranma in the manga. >.< Nice, I'll keep the hips (bone, can't hide that part) and thunder thighs. Does running really help slim down? I want to lose the fat in my butt and thighs, but if possible I want to find a way to shrink my thighs and butt. I DDR, but will running help? And will that make your whole body slender as well?

Yubel
02-23-2008, 12:09 AM
Animemangafreak - basically, any form of aerobic exercise (aka exercise that gets your heart beating so yeah, running included) will make your body more slender as then your body focuses on burning away the fat. And when the fat is gone... viola! The more intensive it is, the more calories are burnt at an hourly rate although going at a moderate pace means you'll be able to exercise for a longer period of time.

So the bottom line is that aerobic will make you more slender, while anaerobic (ie weights n stuff) will make you more toned by improving muscle tone.

...my problem? That even though I have a gym membership I'm forced to pay for w/college tuition, I cannot drag myself over there! Motivation... puh-lease!

Animangafreak
02-23-2008, 12:16 AM
Awesome! Then I should be good and see results soon. *secretly jumps for joy and darts off to DDR*

Can't give you motivation. My motivation is that I'm going to surprise a group of friends by doing a Fruits basket dance with two others (who live in different states) I want to look the part and crosplay. I'm way too excited. You could diet, if that would help?

Ryozu Miazaki
03-03-2008, 07:19 PM
I'm dressing up as Crisis Core Cloud(guard uniform) so I don't know if I really need to do that.

WingedK9
03-03-2008, 09:19 PM
Animemangafreak - basically, any form of aerobic exercise (aka exercise that gets your heart beating so yeah, running included) will make your body more slender as then your body focuses on burning away the fat. And when the fat is gone... viola! The more intensive it is, the more calories are burnt at an hourly rate although going at a moderate pace means you'll be able to exercise for a longer period of time.

So the bottom line is that aerobic will make you more slender, while anaerobic (ie weights n stuff) will make you more toned by improving muscle tone.

...my problem? That even though I have a gym membership I'm forced to pay for w/college tuition, I cannot drag myself over there! Motivation... puh-lease!


what would you like as motivation? i mean would you like to meet another person who is getting in better shape at the next con also crossplaying? would being in a competition help you get the motivation need to get there?

Tawniey
03-16-2008, 05:57 PM
Hello!


A group of friends and I had decided to cosplay the Jak characters for anyone familiar with the Jak videogame trilogy, and I am Jak.
http://ui04.gamespot.com/931/art01jl1_2.jpg
There's the picture...

Here is my dilemma--
Trying to make my hips look slim enough, because I had read that the lighter colored pants kinda kill that effect, but the character's pants are a creamish color...
I was trying to figure out ways of doing that without making my bust look reduced in size, because the characters have oddly huge chest areas, and it would finally be a character that I could cosplay due to that... I have around a 7-9 inch difference between my bust and waist and then waist and hips again (Which turns out to be fair for some cosplay, but AWFUL for crossplay...)
I was just trying to figure out what I could do about this, because Jak a huge chest-waist ratio, but then the lower half is a stick...
Any suggestions?
Thanks!

Queen Anime 99
03-27-2008, 08:10 PM
I would suggest making the pants like "guy pants." One of the problems some female crossplayers have is that they wear "girl pants." Girl pants tend to accentuate curves; guys pants don't. Look at a clothing catalogue and you'll see the differences between guy pants and girl pants. Wear your pants low on your hip. Also, don't make the shirt too tight. Good luck.

Hello!


A group of friends and I had decided to cosplay the Jak characters for anyone familiar with the Jak videogame trilogy, and I am Jak.
http://ui04.gamespot.com/931/art01jl1_2.jpg
There's the picture...

Here is my dilemma--
Trying to make my hips look slim enough, because I had read that the lighter colored pants kinda kill that effect, but the character's pants are a creamish color...
I was trying to figure out ways of doing that without making my bust look reduced in size, because the characters have oddly huge chest areas, and it would finally be a character that I could cosplay due to that... I have around a 7-9 inch difference between my bust and waist and then waist and hips again (Which turns out to be fair for some cosplay, but AWFUL for crossplay...)
I was just trying to figure out what I could do about this, because Jak a huge chest-waist ratio, but then the lower half is a stick...
Any suggestions?
Thanks!

WingedK9
03-30-2008, 01:04 PM
do you have sumone being dexter?

The Monkey
04-10-2008, 05:34 PM
I've got the same problem as most girls on here being that I'm curvy (unfortunately I got my mum's side of the family's body - short and curvy, while my sister got my dad's - tall and slender).

I'm not worried about the bust problem, I've found that with enough fiddling with binding that's fine, but again, as with most girls its my hips which are posing the problem. I figured I'd try wearing boy's trousers and see how that goes.

I tried wearing them like a guy but-... ugh... in all the photos I look back on I think they just make my legs look like horrible tree-trunks. Instead of reducing the look of my hips it just made my legs look to be just as wide as my hips! I looked horribly disproportioned and I don't know what I did wrong - especially since the trousers were black and meant to look 'slimming'.

At the moment I'm going back to wearing girl trousers and just having jackets and shirts which are a bit too big for me, so when they hang down they at the very least cut the size of my hips in half. I think this is going to look a little better.

What do you think guys? Should I attempt man-trousers again or stick with the over-sized tops and jackets?

Youshi Semenjyu
04-11-2008, 03:04 PM
Hmm. I have to wear a tight little tanktop for a One Piece costume I'm working on. I've read through about all the tips, padding, binding, and low rise pants, and I agree.

But I've got a dilemma. I have a little bit of pudge that I want to hide, but how does one hide the pudge and pad the waist at the same time? It seems a little counterproductive. I want to create a nice clean tapered line from my shoulders to where my pants sit on my hips. (Which means I need to find a pair of pants that, omg, actually fit, lol.)

RoxyDirKaoru
04-15-2008, 11:03 PM
I have almost everything for me
*Tall Height 5.9-5.10 weight: 130 (1.75 m and 65 kilos)
*Pretty broad shoulders
I do have a pretty good hourglass shape but when I bind my assets the chest and waits parts of my body matches pretty close and my hips arn't that far away from the rest. And as for other features like eyebrows and stuff the guys I cosplay usually have pretty thin eyebrows so I don't do anything with them I pluck them as I normally do. But for Kadaj I plucked them in Kadaj shape thin/pointed upwards at a little over middle area of the brows and colored them silver *bit off topic*. Anime/Manga/Game/J-Rock Bishie guys usually have thin eybrows and such.
The only thing I have against me is my big C cup assets. So I use like three meters of skin colored bandage wraped thightly around my chest. But I wanna be able to cosplay with a shirt open and suchness so I'm planning on trying the sports tape and hope it will hold, I tried normal tape but it just wouldn't stay on it ripped right of as soon as I let go of it. XD
I can't wait to try out the sports tape binding method and I SO HOPE it works for my two assets! ^_^

TMar
04-24-2008, 11:28 AM
Hi, I'm planning on doing a Jin cosplay at an event in july. The thing is, I've got pretty wide hips compared to a fairly smaller waist. I could wrap my obi around my hips so the kimono would drop down straight along my body hiding curves. But I know once I start walking and such, possibly fighting someone cosplaying Mugen ;), my obi and hakama will crawl up to my waist. Normally, I always wrap the obi around my waist. Does anyone have ideas on this?
I'm 1,80 m tall, 130 cm around the shoulders and hips and ca 90 cm around my waist.

AndreaOfTheLand
04-24-2008, 05:16 PM
as unflattering as it seems, I'd think padding your waist may be the best way to minimalize your feminine shape.. I've had to do the same thing when i've crossplayed, it truly makes in impact i think.

TMar
04-25-2008, 10:37 AM
I think my home made kimono-obi might do the trick, but it'll be summer and I'll be sweating all over anyway. I'll think about it.

Ghoul304
04-26-2008, 12:25 PM
I don't know if this is the right place to ask...but i couldn't find anything on it.
Any tip's on how 'stuff' for a girl? Not to make it overly obvious or anything, but so you look like your a male.

WingedK9
04-27-2008, 06:15 PM
rolled up sock







or so i have had recomended

navigated
04-27-2008, 07:12 PM
I've found if you want just kind of a subtle look of 'junk' for lack of a better word, I've found a bandanna is a pretty good size. Normally (at least in my opinion) rolled up socks look a bit too much like "LOOK THERE IS SOMETHING IN MY PANTS", bandannas generally sit a bit better, and just kind of push the front of your pants out with out looking too defined or anything. That's just my personal preference.

BuddhaAlex
04-29-2008, 09:49 PM
Thankyou so much for an awesome guideline! I really needed it, say, about a month ago for my Ryuuki and didn't know it was here, but now that I know where to find it, I will be referring back to it often!
Thanks!

jamii123195
05-01-2008, 04:27 PM
i went as kyo sohma once a while ago and because he wears baggy clothes u cont really see ur hips but i did have to wear som stuff for my chest!

aozuRaine
05-27-2008, 11:14 AM
i am planning to crossplay as minato from persona 3. and as you know you know, he is wearing a uniform....

seriously, i have a big butt and my hips are quite high compared to normal :P any other way besides padding?

SanaK
06-23-2008, 02:11 PM
Hm, seeing as I'm crossplaying Lucifer from Angel Sanctuary, who happens to be a very masculine character who is imposing in height and proportions. I'm especially worried about how annoyingly petite I am. I am 5'3'' and only 115 pounds, however, when I wear these particular platforms, I can pull off at least 5'8'' maybe 5'9'', and I was taller than 99% of girls I passed by. The costume itself is extremely masculine, and I do have a muscular body for a girl, and wider shoulders. I'm hoping I can pull off a very very "tall slender male" look. XD;

The tips I read on the first page about body language I will definitely keep in mind. Thanks for that! ^ o^

Xylina_Furiae
07-02-2008, 02:01 PM
Great tips! I never even thought of these before...

I'm wearing pants that cover my waist and actually go up to my lowest rib, but I'm crossplaying as a guy.

http://images.cosplay.com/photos/15/1591386.jpg

What should I do? The pants are kind of baggy around the butt, but my hips ... I don't know if they stick out too far or not ...

Thanks in advance <3

runrundesu
07-22-2008, 10:22 AM
Thank you for the amazing thread! <3 Really good advice, esp Karisu-sama's posts :>

maruri_hizu: Mmm, I think... There's some binding to do with your chest, otherwise looks great! I wouldn't worry about the hips too much :3

Dog Named Bob
08-21-2008, 04:34 PM
I have been panicing wondering how to hide my hips and when I found this, I was amazed. But then I paniced on were to find the shorts XD And just as I was looking around online, my older sister comes in, back from trying to find leggings, wearing slimming shorts!!! FROM RITE AID XD So I'm going to rite aid later to get some >:3 It was like DESTINY.

Also, a question: Is having a longer waist than legs good or bad for crossplay??

MisatoNpenpen
08-26-2008, 09:55 PM
I'm going to go ahead and post even though I haven't gone through the whole thread yet. I was wondering if anyone might have advice for what kind of a specific pants shaper thing would work for me..
I'm not a big girl, but I have at least a 10" difference from waist to hips, and I don't have a broad top (in any way) at all, so I'm afraid that I just look like a weird fat boy with a bubble butt.
I want to look into buying some form of shape-wear for hiding hips and butt, and I don't want to pad my waist because most of the guys I like are totally skinny anyway.
I was looking at the sears site and they have a lot to choose from.. I guess what I'm looking for it like a "thigh slimmer"? I'm a little unsure about the ones that are supposed to "lift and shape" because they might just continue to make my shape girl-like.. and I definitely don't want something that's going to cinch my waist..

please help, you wise people you ;_;

Nekovamp13
08-27-2008, 04:05 AM
I'm pretending to be a guy...Not actually cosplaying as a character, but wanting to look like a guy. I have a hug butt, and is really hard to find pants that would make it look flatter...Have any suggestions on making it flatter???????

Also...Not to be rude to actual gay people (i'm one of them ^_^), but what do you think a gay guy would wear???
If you want to know why, just ask.

zomgmissy
08-27-2008, 07:56 AM
I have a dilemma! I have a pretty hourglass shape that really doesn't work so well for cosplaying a guy with a belly shirt. I have months until I do so, but I like planning things majorly in advance. What could I do to make my hips stand out less while I'm baring my stomach?

Character Ref: http://www.animegalleries.net/img/196912

ace of knaves
10-19-2008, 09:06 PM
>< Have the same problem as MisatoNpenpen. HALP, anyone?

Kawaii Spider
11-10-2008, 08:36 PM
I feel like a little of an idiot for bringing this up specifically - makes me feel like an attention whore somehow. X_X

Anyway... Binding speaks for itself, and I naturally have broader shoulders than most females, but I have what I guess could be called an hourglass figure, with for the most part slim waist and nice wide hips.

From what can be divined from the picture (sorry I couldn't get any clearer ones, if need be I'll search for a better one, preferably one actually of the character I'm planning on), any precautions I'll need to take wearing the blue boys' uniform (guy on the left) (http://www.sarahpin.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/mytho.png)?

JustBeMeltdown
11-10-2008, 11:15 PM
what if you are trying to get a "\ /" shape, I'm doing bakura (http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e230/LupinBeast/YamiBakura.jpg), and while he may not be "curvy" he has some distinct...straight curves or..whatever they are called. he's not the normal "I I" male shape I'm used to. Any tips?

zomgmissy
11-11-2008, 11:06 AM
For all of you that have problems with large butts, the most permanent solution for you is exercise and maybe some dieting. Walking/jogging/running works your glutes pretty well, and so do squats. Drink lots of water, too, it helps with burning fat.

As for changing your shape to a male shape, don't make the clothing too fitted, make the tops more boxy so your curves don't show.

And while I'm here, does anyone know where I can find good exercises to get rid of fat on hips? That belly-baring Sai cosplay is only months away, I've gotta get to work...

SabienStrange
11-12-2008, 05:41 AM
It might have already been explained but maybe not. >_<
My hips aren't too wide, but I'm a sufferer of large-butt syndrome.
To hide all that, its best to choose a character that wears loose clothing,
And to top that off, wear your pants as low as your comfortable with.
For some god awful reason, KH!Leon wears his pants high, so I compensate for that by dropping his pants lower.
If its unavoidable that you can't drop your pants lower and have it look alright, go find yourself a pair of men's pants and do a bit of alteration on them.
The thing with men's pants is that their straight legged all the way, and women's pants accentuate all those lovely curves your trying to hide.

Also, altering a made costume specifically to get ride of your hips will do wonders.
Making the waist measurements a bit larger might help out a bit.

As for those tight-pants wearing men, I've no idea how to get around that,
Other than buying pants that aren't as skin tight as the character wears them.
I've usually stuck with characters that have coats hanging over those pants, or some other piece of clothing that hides all that.
I'd suggest a pair of pants that bells out below the knees.
Most women have curvy little legs, and so long as your character isn't wearing skinny jeans, you should be fine.

As for shoes, unless your doing an 18th century character, I'd avoid using heels for a crossplay.
High heel's force you up on your toes, emphasizing your calves, and inadvertently force your butt to stick out.
If you need height, I'd stick with platforms, and if you can't work that into your costume, then don't sweat it.
I've had people mistaken me for being male even though I'm quite short. xD

And my favorite thing to do is lower the tone of my voice/imitate the characters voice~ Cx
I've found that if I speak a little slower and focus a bit, I can pull off a male-ish voice.
And then of course something gets me happy and I speedy up and get squeaky. ._.

EDIT: Oh! I almost forgot.
Make-up! =D
Squaring your jawline and touching around your cheek-bones with a powder a hair darker than your skintone has helped me a bit too.
But try not to over-do it, or else you'll get the drag queen look...unless your character's a tranny. xD

ramesese
12-07-2008, 12:47 AM
I'm not sure what's your budget for your costume. The only way in my opinion is to have a male muscle suit sculpted for you. Then casted in rd407 latex rubber which is lightweight, flexible, and durable.

Creative Genius
12-18-2008, 07:47 PM
How would you suppose I would slim my hips and thighs when wearing a body suit.
I have a pretty small waist. and would be binding. when I bind I have a 31 inch chest and a 24 inch waist..but my hips are like...36 or 37 around.....

><...how could I make a body suit work with that!!??

zomgmissy
12-18-2008, 08:42 PM
Creative Genius: Find some way to pad your waist, that's the only way to make you look less curvy.

ramesese
12-18-2008, 08:51 PM
I wouldn't wear just any old bodysuit but rather a wetsuit. The wetsuit retracts the muscles, and it does make for easier mobility, then I would have a sculpt made of your body frame, and once molded, casted into latex rubber of the specific costume you would be wearing for i.e., catwoman, then the final cast will be blended to the rest of your body, you will not only look good in the suit, but everyone will not recognize thats even you. Well until you take your mask off. lol

Squall_009
02-11-2009, 02:29 PM
found that trying to keep legs about just under shoulder with or at apart and keeping back straight minimizes the girl thighs too XD It helps with your back too.

Ryo_Hellsing
02-14-2009, 09:35 AM
This information is very useful, Thank you guys so much for it!

I do have one question though for sitting:
I'm crossplaying as a male who wears a skirt item and I was wondering how can I sit without showing off anything while being able to give off the appearance of a male. I was thinking of using bandages around my legs and torso so if anything dose happen all they would see is bandages. But it's just an idea that I am throwing around. Any idea's?

Xylina_Furiae
02-16-2009, 09:21 AM
This information is very useful, Thank you guys so much for it!

I do have one question though for sitting:
I'm crossplaying as a male who wears a skirt item and I was wondering how can I sit without showing off anything while being able to give off the appearance of a male. I was thinking of using bandages around my legs and torso so if anything dose happen all they would see is bandages. But it's just an idea that I am throwing around. Any idea's?

I'm assuming, for this, that the skirt is above the knees.

I'd suggest wearing some spandex shorts. They'll cut down on how big your thighs look as well as allow you to sit more guyish while still being comfortable with your ... stuff.

Ryo_Hellsing
02-16-2009, 02:06 PM
I'm assuming, for this, that the skirt is above the knees.

I'd suggest wearing some spandex shorts. They'll cut down on how big your thighs look as well as allow you to sit more guyish while still being comfortable with your ... stuff.

Ja it is, and thank you for the idea. I will have to look in to this.

Xylina_Furiae
02-17-2009, 10:38 PM
You're welcome. :)

XGuardianX
02-23-2009, 09:26 AM
I would recommend using clth pads in under the costumes is arm connection, yu knw on top of the shulders. i'm pretty even when it cmes to hips and shoulders ratio, so i don't have much problem with that, and for less hips...buy one of those tigh shorts that go from the knees to the waist.

dorkasaur
02-23-2009, 03:37 PM
i have a slim body, but my butt is just sticks
out http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh237/villian_hero45/grt.png
do compression pants work to make my butt flatter?
or something else?

DeathByCosplay
03-02-2009, 07:43 PM
What if I want to make my waist look really small but keep my hips? I'm crossplaying as Axel from Kingdom Hearts II soon and he has HIPS and a small waist.

zomgmissy
03-02-2009, 07:52 PM
DeathByCosplay: I have two suggestions. Pad your hips and thighs somehow (gotta make it flow, which is why I said "and thighs"), or lose weight.

nikkimustang
03-13-2009, 07:41 PM
Ohman, I feel your pain, DeathByCosplay. Axel has a tinytiny waist. I'm having the Roxas issue that someone mentioned earlier, i.e. his anti-ass. (Thankfully I haven't even begun to contemplate Twilight Town version yet.) Depending on your height you also have that working against you. I suppose if you really wanted (don't ask me why) you could figure out a way to realistically pad your hips, but in my case with the large excess of them I don't know why you'd want to.

On another note, did we ever establish a tried-and-true version of compression shorts? I've been through the thread tonight, but all I saw was that the one from Underworks failed someone and baseball shorts from a sports store are good. I'd include names and citations, but I'm far too lazy and eating oranges. XD

zomgmissy
03-13-2009, 07:47 PM
nikkimustang: I have some old shaping shorts that I bought in the lingerie section of a Target. They don't make too much of a difference, but enough that I'm nearly a full pant size smaller (in women's pant sizes).

nikkimustang
03-13-2009, 10:03 PM
nikkimustang: I have some old shaping shorts that I bought in the lingerie section of a Target. They don't make too much of a difference, but enough that I'm nearly a full pant size smaller (in women's pant sizes).

And how convenient that I have a Target literally just down the street from me. Sounds like we have a good solution if they make you a pants size smaller (which would still be enough to help me out seemingly considerably). Thanks for the help! :)

Saavik8
04-12-2009, 01:00 PM
So here's my two cents

when it comes to binding/ slimming what i find works miracles are old dance leotards. I wear them over a sports bra and then *bam* instant-flatness... they also nicely smooth out the rest of the torso... of course this only works if you have something over them as they are quite visible... The trick is the type of body suit you buy...you don't want to have too much stretch in it...the ones I use are too small (they are old ones from my youth)

also if you want to look more manly i recommend that you use a good foundation for your entire face and neck and use it to slim down your lips and then cover it with a powder...When you use the powder also cover your lips...this will create the illusion of having thinner, paler lips...

sometimes to add that extra bit of man i also give myself a very faint five o'clock shadow... by using eyeshadow and a bit of eyeliner (not liquid)...i first add a faint layer of eyeshadow and then make some light small strokes near the sideburn area with the eyeliner..after it is all smudged I cover it again with some powder...

finally if you want to lose weight i recommend taking up irish dancing...man that's weight-busting stuff... that and making sure to watch your diet... what works well for me (i'm now 5'8, 109 lbs) is eating a good breakfast (fruit, egg, juice) not eating much for lunch (water, fruit) and then eating a light dinner (salad, pasta, some protein (chicken, tofu)) and make sure to drink lots of water during the day, it helps keep you hydrated, and healthy...when you get hungry during the day have some water or juice and maybe cheese...I eat a lot of cheese...actually sometimes I just grate a bunch of cheese and eat it.... also i never use diet products...anyway that diet+lots of exercise works miracles...it also tones the stomach and legs and if you mix dance with pushups and weights you can tone the upperbody too

Ai Kazi
04-14-2009, 12:16 AM
dunno if anyone has posted this yet....but Underworks is FANTASTIC for cutting away all the curves :o

thetollofdeath
04-21-2009, 09:52 PM
I hope the longer compression vest helps trim down some of my belly fat (and lovehandles) a bit,.. >__________> I need. to. work. on. my. butt.

Peppermint Bee
05-20-2009, 03:06 AM
Oh man, I've learned so much from this thread. Thank you, everyone!

A note about exercise:

Keep in mind that AEROBIC exercise will burn fat (anything that raises your heart rate: running, skipping rope, DDR, chasing the bus you miss everyday, stair-machine, dancing). In order to lose weight you have to do one of these aerobic activities for AT LEAST 20 minutes at a time. NO LESS.

ANAEROBIC exercise will tone muscle. This is any and every sort of repetitive action that will make your muscles ache. Push ups, sit ups, bench presses, triceps, leg lifts, etc. This will make your muscles stand out. (Girls don't usually get muscle "bulk" but instead get that lean swimmer-arm look.) Don't forget to stretch before and after or you can damage your muscles.

I'm planning on playing Roxas (http://www.kh2.co.uk/assets/kh2/artwork/roxas.png) and Cloud (http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee59/CrisisCoreImages/CrisisCoreEnding211.jpg) in the future and this is finally the motivation I need to move my lazy ass and get rid of my badonkadonk. I'm pretty slim, but a 10" difference between my waist and my hips will serve to be a pain. (Not to mention that Roxas has those freaking "chap" style pants (http://101graphics.com/test/roxas2blades.jpg) which will only accentuate my ass.) '''OTL

My plan of attack? For the next three months (or more!) do a ton of aerobic exercises to shrink my bubble butt, as well as work my arms so I can sort of compare to Cloud's biceps. Come cosplay time, I'm gonna get one of those magical butt-slimmers shorts too.

Oh, and I noticed that a few people have complained about some boy characters that have a few things working in favor of crossplay.

For example, Sora (http://campinfinity.cs.luc.edu/Members/session1/group6/kristen/kh2sora_pic), Riku (http://www.freewebs.com/khriku/riku6.jpg), Cloud (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/50/Cloud_Strife_art.jpg/500px-Cloud_Strife_art.jpg), and Zack (http://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-05/cc-zack-fair1.html) all have pants that puff out on the bottom which will make your waist/butt/thighs look smaller by comparison. Same thing goes with any character wearing hakama pants (http://behindinfinity.deviantart.com/art/Samurai-Champloo-Jin-27149479). Sora, Cloud, and Zack also have shoulder armor (always a plus).

And remember, the bigger the hair is the smaller the hips will look. xD

</wall of text>

BiZ
05-20-2009, 03:26 AM
I'm planning on playing Roxas (http://www.kh2.co.uk/assets/kh2/artwork/roxas.png) and Cloud (http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee59/CrisisCoreImages/CrisisCoreEnding211.jpg) in the future and this is finally the motivation I need to move my lazy ass and get rid of my badonkadonk. I'm pretty slim, but a 10" difference between my waist and my hips will serve to be a pain. (Not to mention that Roxas has those freaking "chap" style pants (http://101graphics.com/test/roxas2blades.jpg) which will only accentuate my ass.) '''OTL

I see you found the thread I spoke of, little Bee. I approve of exercise and hope the both of us can trade routines--I'm hoping to tone and strengthen myself for strictly health reasons--but I hope your work-out won't involve loosing all of your pretty hips. Your body is beautiful and I would hate to see it change too much. All the insults upon yourself shall be logged and rebuffed when I see you next. Expect it. ;B


Also, a note for all: Cupid makes some nice girdles. I don't enjoy the word, but it's what they are and they slim down your rear nicely. Relatively cheap at Walmart and comes in a variety of sizes and colors. Good material, very sturdy and thick, and hugs a body like no one's business. I only tried one on for reference but, from the few moments I had it on, I thought it would be great for a cosplayer with a little more booty than I. :]

Peppermint Bee
05-20-2009, 04:42 PM
I see you found the thread I spoke of, little Bee. I approve of exercise and hope the both of us can trade routines--I'm hoping to tone and strengthen myself for strictly health reasons--but I hope your work-out won't involve loosing all of your pretty hips. Your body is beautiful and I would hate to see it change too much. All the insults upon yourself shall be logged and rebuffed when I see you next. Expect it. ;B
Don't worry dear! I will not be losing my hips to exercise. My hip bones are relatively wide compared to my waist anyway (nothing I can do about that!), and I love them. <3 However, I can shrink my rear a bit and then pad my waist when going for the androgynous look. Getting my resting heart rate down will be a plus too. (Happy cardiovascular systems = happy cosplayer?)

Trust me, I'm not one to fret about my weight, I want to be healthy and strong! My arms are going to be awesome after my Operation Cloud work out! (EXTREEEEEEEEEEME) Maybe we can lift those five-pound dumbells together. xD

I didn't insult myself that much... did I?

playmysitardemy
05-27-2009, 09:45 PM
I'm planning to crosplay Zack Fair from Final Fantasy VII: Crisis Core. I think the snug shirt won't but much of a problem since I'm a small bust size anyway. The problem however lies in the bottom half. I have a "j-Lo" ass and even though Zack's pants are a bit baggy, I'm not sure it will be covered since he has a belt/harness that pulls his waist in more. My posture is pretty manish to begin with (always prefered hanging out with boys and play wrestle rather than sit with girls and play dolls). I also have slender shoulders and i'm short (5'2" at the most). Would I be alright or does anyone have a suggestion? Thanks

Peppermint Bee
06-03-2009, 02:41 AM
Demy, you sound like you pretty much have my proportions. I'm also planning on playing Cloud from Crisis Core in Zack's clothing, so I know exactly what you mean. However, I've stalled on responding because I've NEVAH CROSSPLAYED BEFORE and therefore have no idea what I'm doing. All I can do is tell you what I'm planning to do to even out my hips, based on the info given to me on this thread.

1.) Don't skimp on the shoulder pads. Make those suckers big to even out that bottom half.
2.) Zack wears his belt really high on his waist. Form the optical illusion of having a long waist by wearing it down lower (more on your pelvic bone), and then DON'T cinch it all the way up. Last thing we need is Zack showing off a little princess waistline.
3.) Spankies-- aka: elastic shorts that suck your butt in. They don't do much for size, but they do help. (This is actually personal experience for once.)
4.) Make the bottom of the pants baggy. Once again, you want to make your hips seem smaller by making your shoulders and legs/feet bigger.

That's all I got. SOMEONE CORRECT ME PLEASE. Hopefully it's a little bit helpful. If you discover anything that works for you, please share! :)

RedeadDie
06-19-2009, 07:54 PM
Well, I have a major crossplaying goal I'm working on. I really want to crossplay as Gunji from Togainu no Chi. I should have no problem making the cosplay, but with the shape I'm in now, I'd rather make it for one of my skinnier cosplay friends than myself. I use to be over 200 pounds before I started cosplay. I lost around enough weight to weigh just under 180 pounds (I'm 5'11 in height), but my current diet and exercise isn't enough at the moment. I plan on taking a step further and I know this won't happen in a few months or anything. I actually don't have any set date for this, so once I get to the right image that's suiting to the character, I will cosplay him.

My major issues for this cosplay is my legs (mainly my thighs), my J-lo butt (which I can't stand because girls at work wish they had it), my upper arms, and my stomach.

I actually hate fast food, sweets, and junk food. I think my only weakness for food is udon noodles, but I'm not sure what's really in udon.

My goals:
-To have less of a butt and maybe lose some weight in my chest area.
-To have some abs (considering it's an open shirt crossplay).
-To lose weight and build up some muscle in my arms.
-To slim and tone my legs.

My weaknesses:
-My job tires me out so much that I feel drained by the time I come home and just want to sleep until tomorrow. (I'm up and about on my feet for six to seven hours straight five days out of the week without a break.)
-My father gets really pissed if I don't eat his cooking at night. (I usually take very small portions of it, but he gets mad at that too.) He cooks mainly meat, which I hate very much myself. So, I need to be brave tell him I can't really eat much of what he cooks anymore.

What I'm going to do:
-Do about 100 or so sit-ups at night.
-Walk my dogs twice a day.
-Go biking every day for at least two hours.
-Go hiking at least twice a week.
-Start up water aerobics again.
-Cut down on my serving portions.
-Replace snacks with plenty of water.
-Cut out more breads. (Even though all I ever eat is whole grain breads.)
-Keep eating mainly fish and eggs as my protein. (I hate chicken, pork, and beef.)
-Keep eating mainly fresh fruit and veggies all of the time.

I'm not really sure what to do for the upper arms that doesn't involve a gym. I also cannot do a push-up for the life of me. Even a girl push-up is hard for me. Even when my mom was in the military she couldn't even do one, nor can any of my sisters. (Which is weird because my lil sister is very fit.) Any suggestions for this would be helpful.

iaShakezula
06-19-2009, 10:41 PM
Well I guess I always crossplay.I love guys clothes.
My Hips are not that broader than my shoulders, i am pretty slim already but I do need just to pad my waist a little for tight fitting guy clothes.
About the pants, I do wear then lower ,especially when I have a belt on..and most of my shirt are loose anyway.
I do tend to walk and stand like a boy when I am wearing male clothes.I could be mistaken for a lesbian if I were in the wrong side of the town.
I do like the visual Kei look on those skinny Japanese dudes.
My friend K is very tall and skinny, she could pass for those skinny tall anime men and she looks great.I can only crossplay for the medium size , shorter "uke " type characters.

Tatsu-chan
06-24-2009, 03:24 PM
ok so I am crossplaying as luppi from bleach!
Here is a picture:
http://shiru00.deviantart.com/art/BLEACH-Luppi-kun-71952085
http://eldanis.deviantart.com/art/Luppi-104550152
as you can see he has a tiny bit of hip to him but not much considering he is a guy, my problem? I have a lot of hip, because in addition to havig a larger bone structure I have some fat, I'm excedrcising to get rid of some of the fat and that is working but I think I'll still have a bit too much hip and people will be able to tell I'm a girl, but the costume doesn't really allow for bingiing around the waist or padding it, any suggestions? or should I just not worry?

Jav
07-06-2009, 08:09 AM
Well I always been into Crossplay, I'm pretty tall,and slim 5'9.I naturally walk,sit,stand like a guy sadly -_- not intentionally either.. But I"ve noticed all the recent cosplay I'm doing with my buddy, I'm crossplaying as the taller one,lolz.

Btw Tatsu-Chan
I saw the pics, I think you don't exactly have to worry to much,but I do suggest that since he does have some exposed hips and you say you have alot of hips, exercise can be one and the other can be if you make the outfit you should make the area where the hips are exposed a bit smaller,but not to small to notice a huge difference,but that's all I have to say sorry if it doesn't help =[

sweet_oneesama
07-16-2009, 12:00 PM
Don't worry dear! I will not be losing my hips to exercise. My hip bones are relatively wide compared to my waist anyway (nothing I can do about that!), and I love them.

I'm like that too and it's so annoying... my waist is only 26" and my hips are soooo wide but I have practically no fat on them, it's how far my bones stick out! It's ridiculous...
I'm worried that this will be a problem when I cosplay Riku (http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/112/297209-kh2_artwork_riku3_large.jpg). His pants are worn so low, and his shirt exposes part of his midriff. Will the fact that my hip bones stick out be revealing feminine?

Peppermint Bee
07-20-2009, 06:47 PM
@Tatsu: Hm, for that costume I would go ahead and keep the revealed hip, but most importantly add SHOULDER PADS to that outfit. A lot of girls seem to be iffy about the whole shoulder pads thing, but trust me they definitely add to the masculinity. Guys shoulders are ALWAYS significantly wider than their hips. (And fortunately that character has a sort of effeminant look to him, so showing off the hips and keeping some femmininity probably won't be that bad.)

@Sweet Oneesama: Yeah yeah, I empathize with you there. Oh man, KH2 Riku is going to be a PAIN to pull off a convincing crossplay. Dx His shoulders are bare so you can't use shoulder pads, and his midriff is exposed (a little) so you can't pad your waist... hrmm...

My only inexperienced advice would be to wear those tight spandex slimming shorts underneath, and wear really really baggy pants, set low on your waist. Then do pushups like no tomorow. xD Good luck, good luck! (Big skater-shoes will also help with the illusion, I think.)

Tatsu-chan
07-20-2009, 07:02 PM
hey thats an it not a him!
lol but yeah I have a pair of shoulder pads just for that

Impure_Impulse
07-20-2009, 08:23 PM
I suppose I'm lucky, in that my shoulders are the widest part of my body, but even I wear shoulder pads, and second them to everyone. They're very effective, even if you have large hips.

pretty women
07-23-2009, 12:29 AM
I'm not sure if anyone has said this, since I skipped two whole pages, but what I have to say is about this weight issue.

For girls who are still developing, it isn't always genetics that gives you your curves. It also goes with all the fat that you eat. The fat that isn't burnt off is used to fill out your "girly parts" (boobs/hips/butt), you can loose the extra fat though. As of how, I don't know. Though if you don't want your boobs to get bigger don't do what they did in Grease. (heels of hands together and push, it works out your muscles). Eat healthier girls!

Kelley
07-23-2009, 01:00 AM
Actually, I don't want to be a downer - but I don't think that's really true.

The BONES in women's hips are on average wider than men's - and no amount of not eating will prevent this unless I guess you're malnourished to the point your body doesn't develop - but I don't know if that would actually work (nor would I actually recommend it).

HORMONES play a HUGE part in how the body stores fat. Diet will not change this unless there are significant levels of hormones in it.

Genetics always play a part. :B


The body WANTS to store fat and doing so is HEALTHY. If you are predisposed to having larger breasts - they are NOT going to go away with diet or exercise.


And it would be VERY unwise for a developing anybody to try body modification via diet without doctor supervision. And if someone that young is that dead-set on it, they should be seeing a psychologist, anyway. :)

Peppermint Bee
07-24-2009, 03:35 PM
I disagree with Pretty Woman and have to agree with OurLadyC.

Women come in lots of shapes, the main three being "apple" shaped (weight tends to go to the torso), "pear" shaped (weight on the hips/butt/thighs), and then this third sort of "column" shape where the weight distributes itself really evenly between the bust, waist, and butt (this last one isn't as commmon).

It doesn't really matter how much or how little a person eats, genetics will put weight gained into a pre-determined location for every girl. Sure you can tone everything down with exercise, but no matter what you do to your size, your basic shape will remain consistent. So learn to love it! ;D ((Hip wiggle.))

This thread seems to be targeting more of the pear shaped cosplayers, like me with the flat-flat chest and bubble-butt. I'm not really concerned about my weight for cosplay, so I'm taking tips for creating the "illusion" of a man's figure, whether it's what to wear or how to stand!

playmysitardemy
07-26-2009, 02:52 PM
I'm planning to crosplay Zack Fair from Final Fantasy VII: Crisis Core. I think the snug shirt won't but much of a problem since I'm a small bust size anyway. The problem however lies in the bottom half. I have a "j-Lo" ass and even though Zack's pants are a bit baggy, I'm not sure it will be covered since he has a belt/harness that pulls his waist in more. My posture is pretty manish to begin with (always prefered hanging out with boys and play wrestle rather than sit with girls and play dolls). I also have slender shoulders and i'm short (5'2" at the most). Would I be alright or does anyone have a suggestion? Thanks

Okay, I gave Zack a try and even though the actual outfit fell apart (the harness but I only had a couple days to work on it!) I think I did a bang up job of looking like a guy. Well, as good as I can being the big butt thing but then again, friends of mine have a debate Zack has a bit of a "ghetto booty" anyway XD but enough rambling, here's my attempt, tell me if I pass or fail? Here's the gallery:

http://www.cosplay.com/costume/227050/

Thanks to anyone in advanced!

Tatsu-chan
07-26-2009, 11:50 PM
oh yeah you did, your favce still looks a little too feminine but your body looks great! I think its especially cause you have the bottome of that harnessey thing so low

Peppermint Bee
07-28-2009, 01:53 PM
@PlayMySitarDemy: Oh wow, nice job hiding your figure! The binding is very convincing and I agree with Tatsu: by putting the harness so low you could hide the difference between your little waist and hips.

To further the illusion of masculinity, I'd recommend getting a big Zack wig and using make-up to emphasize your jawline and cheekbones, as well as maybe thicken up your eyebrows. Bodywise you did a great job, though. :)

playmysitardemy
07-30-2009, 01:21 AM
Thanks a lot for the imput! I was really worried since for someone reason people kept saying Cloud. >.< Anyway, yes, I'm going to get a wig and the makeup thing will be improved since I was working with what little I had in the hotel (wasn't planning on going to this con XD). But once I remake it, I'll put more pics up. Thanks again!

Aka-x
08-13-2009, 12:50 PM
Tchhh~
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x218/kakashilove101/Loz_by_blackwing_dias.jpg
Any ideas how someone who's 5'1 could pull that off?
xD

playmysitardemy
08-13-2009, 05:47 PM
Tchhh~
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x218/kakashilove101/Loz_by_blackwing_dias.jpg
Any ideas how someone who's 5'1 could pull that off?
xD

Well, size isn't a really big factor in any cosplay I think. If you look at my Zack, who's about 6' 2" ish, I look alright, or at least I think so. Yes, there's a reason I say that, I'm about 5' 1"-2"! I would mostly concentrate on makep to give a manlier look and binding if you're big chested If you think height is ABSOLUTELY necessary, try platform boots. I have a pair for my Demyx cosplay and it gives me a good four extra inches. Hope that helps!

Kurenekochic
08-13-2009, 11:07 PM
If I'm cosplaying a young boy- to be specific a 12 year old, to be more specific Ciel from Kuroshitsuji- do I need to modify my figure (besides the binding- you know ^_~)? I don't really think so, but I was just making sure.

Peppermint Bee
08-13-2009, 11:47 PM
If I'm cosplaying a young boy- to be specific a 12 year old, to be more specific Ciel from Kuroshitsuji- do I need to modify my figure (besides the binding- you know ^_~)? I don't really think so, but I was just making sure.

I adore Ciel. What a fun cosplay!

It's hard to say how much you'd have to alter since I don't know what you look like, but you would want kind of a "boxy" type of figure, where the bust, waist, and hips are about the same size. That would mean making sure that your jacket isn't too tight! (Or even padding your waist a little, depending on how curvy you are.

You'd also want to shave those legs so you look as smooth as a twelve year old! xD

I would love to do Ciel myself someday, but I feel like it would be too hard to make my badonkadonk booty look like a little boy's in those shorts he's always wearing. Alas...

Kurenekochic
08-19-2009, 10:54 PM
I adore Ciel. What a fun cosplay!

It's hard to say how much you'd have to alter since I don't know what you look like, but you would want kind of a "boxy" type of figure, where the bust, waist, and hips are about the same size. That would mean making sure that your jacket isn't too tight! (Or even padding your waist a little, depending on how curvy you are.

You'd also want to shave those legs so you look as smooth as a twelve year old! xD

I would love to do Ciel myself someday, but I feel like it would be too hard to make my badonkadonk booty look like a little boy's in those shorts he's always wearing. Alas...

Well, I don't have much of a booty- or chest- so my biggest problem would be my hips, but if I wore a looser jacket I should be fine... right?

Dragon
08-21-2009, 02:17 AM
@Kurenekochic: Some of the outfit he wears do cover up the hips so you can work by using one of them. Generally in his case I'd simply make sure that your taillie isn't to noticable so the 8-form of us females doesn't come through too strongly :)

Peppermint Bee
08-27-2009, 04:32 PM
Well, I don't have much of a booty- or chest- so my biggest problem would be my hips, but if I wore a looser jacket I should be fine... right?
Don't think of it as a "looser jacket" per say. Find a jacket that fits you well in the shoulder, but doesn't have a tapered waist. This might be sort of hard to find since jackets with a small enough shoulder for you will probably be "women's" jackets with a tapered waist. x( But keep your eyes open! You could always hand make the jacket as well. ;)

ryuukicho
09-01-2009, 07:07 PM
i'm bookmarking this ~! >w<

Tif9123
09-05-2009, 01:24 PM
i have a problem crossplaying to, i tried doing cloud strife but i have such a big bust so whenever i cosplay boys they have boobs :'(

Mai Black
09-05-2009, 03:28 PM
I tried to use ACE bandages, but when I use them I cant breath xD

Kelley
09-05-2009, 08:06 PM
There are tons better methods for binding than ACE (which I would never tell someone to use), many of which are listed in the Binding thread. :)

zomgmissy
09-06-2009, 08:20 AM
Yeah, people, this is a crossplay thread for dealing with balancing out the body for more masculine proportions. Binding issues should go in the binding thread. (:

VivaLaNinja
09-13-2009, 02:04 PM
Okay. I have to be honest with everyone on this.

I HAVE HUGE CHILD BEARING HIPS AND A LARGE BOTTOM.

;-;

Yeah, it's nice when I'm cosplaying a girl. But, not now.

I'm going to do Sebastion from Kuroshisuji and I would really love for anyone to tell me how to shrink my hips and butt so it doesn't look like Sebastion has one in the oven D:

Please and thank you!

Kelley
09-13-2009, 08:34 PM
Honestly, I would really need to see a picture. Especially since you talk about "hips and butt" but then reference "bun in the oven". O_o

VivaLaNinja
09-13-2009, 11:13 PM
Oh.

.//////.

Sorry. I'll put up pictures tomorrow when I get the chance, I promise.

And when I said 'Bun in the Oven', I meant, you know when a woman gets pregnant and usually, she grows a couple of pants sizes? That's what I meant with Sebastion... But, um. Yeah.

Sorry again.

naomicellest
09-16-2009, 06:15 PM
What exactly do you do if the boy you're crossplaying as wears really like.....tight clothes? Tight pants, a tight short vest...etc. ><

Kelley
09-16-2009, 07:52 PM
It depends on your physical structure, the costume, and what you need to look like.

I can't really tell YOU what to do without seeing pictures and reference pictures. :/

ashurri3987
09-20-2009, 11:51 AM
Im trying to be Marik; and i've already been preparing all summer before tekkoshocon 1/2 in Oct.... *workout excessively* but, the problem is, i still got just a tad bit of lovehandles :( got the abs but still some squish. Anyone know how i can slim my hips for his costume?

I actually have a lanky physique, (with C boobs, but ive already covered the squishing method XD) and i'm only 5'3". But, in all honesty, Marik is just too cool. And of course, i can't be Yami because im not that awesome, so its the midriff shirt unfortunately. I don't know how to pull off the slimmer body thing when I gotta reveal so much in that costume T.T

yaoibabyangel
09-27-2009, 10:01 PM
umm don't know if this goes here but here I go!
When crossplaying as a guy what undies do you wear?
I understand if you are wearing tight fitting pants then you go in the buff or wear butt floss, but what if they are not tight at all and you are trying to give off a male appearance in that general area (not talking about packing I have enough info on that XD)?

ashurri3987
09-28-2009, 05:35 AM
maybe some nice boxers XDD

Allure de Star
10-12-2009, 08:43 PM
Women's waist-to-hip ratio (WHR) varies with age, and a lower WHR is associated with a higher estrogen-to-androgen ratio and possibly higher fecundity, at least in some populations. Consequently, it has been argued that selection has favored a universal male preference for a low female WHR. In previous studies using frontal pictures, men in the United States preferred a low WHR of 0.7, but men among Hadza hunter–gatherers and a few other small-scale societies preferred higher ratios. Unlike the actual WHR of women, measured with a tape around the waist and the hips and buttocks, the WHR in frontal pictures excludes the buttocks. Because frontal WHR gives only a partial picture, we used profile views of women to measure men's preferences for the profile WHR. Hadza men preferred a lower profile WHR (more protruding buttocks) than American men. Since Hadza men preferred higher frontal WHR but lower profile WHR, and since both contribute to the actual WHR, these results imply there is less disparity between American and Hadza preferences for the actual WHR of real women. We suggest men's preferences vary with the geographic variation in the shape of women who have wider hips in some populations and more protruding buttocks in others.

Yamikochan
11-08-2009, 06:48 PM
curious on how to hide my big butt while cosplaying a guy (how would most of you go about it) ,I don't really have a problem as i am an average cup size (for breasts), it's my butt which is embarrassingly huge. What are the best ways to make that disappear? (Especially if the guy I chose to cosplay has a bit of tight pants and also wears a belt at the waist)

Kelley
11-08-2009, 07:17 PM
Can you post pictures ?

It's not that I'm keen on seeing your rear - but most people have a skewed perception of their bodies - so it's hard to get a really accurate idea of your problem with only words. :)

Yamikochan
11-09-2009, 12:07 AM
Can you post pictures ?

It's not that I'm keen on seeing your rear - but most people have a skewed perception of their bodies - so it's hard to get a really accurate idea of your problem with only words. :)

no, I totally understand, other than what is probably under my profile, I'll get some here:

http://tinypic.com/r/2qxlzr7/4 -one of my cosplays

http://tinypic.com/r/bj05c/4 -another cosplay

http://tinypic.com/r/23kygpk/4 -just taken today in front of the mirror

I won't lie, I'm a bit on the chubby side. But even if/when i lose/did lose weight i still had a bubble butt. How in the world can i fix that?

StarryShay
11-16-2009, 09:17 PM
I have a question about crossplaying that I hope someone can help me with. I just recently got everything for my Len Kagamine cosplay together, that I wore to a convention~, and I noticed that the mascara I was wearing kind of made me look more girl'ish. What's a good way to wear make-up when your crossplaying so that your eyes still stand out, but you don't look too feminine? C:
Also, I don't really have a...bust (or rather, it's barely noticable. >>), so should I still worry about binding~?
Len --> http://media.photobucket.com/image/len%20kagamine/FlyAwayGrenade/Renders/4654_render_VocaloidRenderByKodoko1.png?o=15
I hope this is the right place to ask. <3
Thanks~!

playmysitardemy
11-18-2009, 11:02 PM
I have a question about crossplaying that I hope someone can help me with. I just recently got everything for my Len Kagamine cosplay together, that I wore to a convention~, and I noticed that the mascara I was wearing kind of made me look more girl'ish. What's a good way to wear make-up when your crossplaying so that your eyes still stand out, but you don't look too feminine? C:
Also, I don't really have a...bust (or rather, it's barely noticable. >>), so should I still worry about binding~?
Len --> http://media.photobucket.com/image/len%20kagamine/FlyAwayGrenade/Renders/4654_render_VocaloidRenderByKodoko1.png?o=15
I hope this is the right place to ask. <3
Thanks~!

I would suggest, though I'm not the greatest makeup person, that you use a tinge to square out your jaw more and instead of black eyeliner/mascara a brownish.....also, you might thicken your eyebrows. There's better information on makeup in the makeup section, if you just search for masculine makeup techniques or crossplay makeup. As for binding, I suppose it's how your costume fits and your bust size. I'm about a 36C and I still bind, since I've done Zack, who wears a tight shirt. I also bind while doing Reno, who has a baggy shirt but I just like to stay on the safe side. Hope this helps! :bigtu:

`Difficile
11-23-2009, 12:58 PM
I will need some padding on the shoulders to pull of Jak fro Jak 3... But the good thing is he wears baggy clothes so it won't be too much of a problem.

Sephirayne
11-24-2009, 11:40 PM
Theres some really great tips in this thread. Thanks ever so much for posting them.

I don't have trouble crossplaying psychically as I have a boyish body from having too much male hormone in my body. My hips and shoulders have never been a prob for me. Its my lack of height and really pretty eyes that stand out.

I did however, never thought to change things like how I walked or stand. I'll think about those when I embark on possibly my most macho crossplay to date, Horatio Caine from CSI Miami.

jabberwocky-x
11-25-2009, 12:10 AM
I don't have any tips to add, but I must say THANK YOU to all of you lovely people iin this thread! Definitely useful things to keep in mind, especially as you've brought up things I never would have thought of. Thanks to lot of you! :)

Flora88
11-25-2009, 10:54 PM
I cosplayed as Rock Lee once, at A-Kon 19,...and it was SO hard trying to look like a man while wearing spandex.
I'm a theatre major, and I know my way around a makeup kit, so I employed a great deal of makeup on myself, even using light nude lipstick to make my lips look less full and squaring off my jawline.

I have a straight-up cartoonish hourglass figure (literally 36" - 24" - 36") so I bound my boobs and focused on trying to minimize my lower half.
I wore Spanx (ACTUAL Spanx, not the knockoff kind...they're so much better), wore wedge ankle-boots that I modified into ninja shoes (more height makes your legs look slimmer, and the wedge can give the illusion of a flat shoe sometimes) which I covered up with the leg warmers. I also opted for Shippuuden Rock Lee rather than pre-time-skip Rock Lee, simply because the Chuunin vest is nifty and added bulk to my waist and shoulders, whereas pre-time-skip Lee just ended up making me look very slightly pear-ish (spandex unitards cling to your curves something fierce, thus emphasizing my small waist in comparison to my hips.)

It worked pretty well, I think. :)