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Jingles
01-04-2004, 08:12 PM
ok If ne of u guys read my last thread ,A shot in the dark, you'll already know what Im going to say.

As most of u guys have heard, BAAF 04 is in danger of not happeneing because it lost it's major sponsor. I thought, maybe if we band enough people together to show how many ppl suppor baaf and are willing to go again that maybe we might be able to hook a major sponsore like MTV or something.

Thats why I decided to start a guestbook dedicated to this cause. I know it sounds crazy, and nothing could happen from this. But this is the only anime convention in new york city and there are power in numbers. The link to the guestbook is here: http://dragonangeln6.tripod.com/baaf.html

All I can say is its worth a shot. Who knows, maybe MTV might want to do a real life I'm a cosplayer. We wont find out unless we try.

Rinoa1022
01-04-2004, 10:09 PM
hey if your trying for a mtv type attention id go with much music. you could always call up imx and ask for a few people to go on, all go in costume, and see if it helps lol. iv gone a few times and all the workers are so nice and will talk to you. plus youd all get on tv and if your costumes are nice theyd prob let you talk for awhile. when i just dress semi goth they move me with the hosts to be on more and ask me questions on the show. hehe just an idea. you could mabe talk about the costumes and say something about saving baaf :)

Jingles
01-04-2004, 10:19 PM
hey if your trying for a mtv type attention id go with much music. you could always call up imx and ask for a few people to go on, all go in costume, and see if it helps lol. iv gone a few times and all the workers are so nice and will talk to you. plus youd all get on tv and if your costumes are nice theyd prob let you talk for awhile. when i just dress semi goth they move me with the hosts to be on more and ask me questions on the show. hehe just an idea. you could mabe talk about the costumes and say something about saving baaf :)

wow, I never thought about much music. I'd have to finish up my lulu cos b4 I went on tv (my mononoke cos is way too ameture, and lulu is more recognized). Any one else willing to join me if this falls though?^^*

ps. Do you have an e-mail adress that I can contact them at?

Dewy
01-04-2004, 10:43 PM
Did'ya try the website? YuffieBunny said she knew their phone, I think :/

Jingles
01-04-2004, 11:18 PM
I know this is prob a little pain in the butt, but any one who signed the guestbook (or is planning on signing) go here ( http://www.PetitionOnline.com/cgi-bin/create_petition.cgi ) instead.

I decided to make a more formal petition seeing that this looks better and will hold more names.
Im posting this link on http://dragonangeln6.tripod.com/baaf.html with a little reminder.

Sorry for the inconvienience.

Dewy
01-04-2004, 11:21 PM
Link doesnt work :/

Jingles
01-04-2004, 11:33 PM
http://www.PetitionOnline.com/Jingles/petition.html


this should work :bigtu:

KaineMaxwell
01-05-2004, 10:19 AM
Still doesn't work.

PatrickD
01-05-2004, 02:40 PM
As most of u guys have heard, BAAF 04 is in danger of not happeneing because it lost it's major sponsor. I thought, maybe if we band enough people together to show how many ppl suppor baaf and are willing to go again that maybe we might be able to hook a major sponsore like MTV or something.

You should probably talk to Central Park Media first. You could get all the sponsors in the world interested, but unless CPM wants to do BAAF again, nothing can happen. ...and maybe they're already trying to find sponsors. If that's the case, this may end up working against their efforts.

Jingles
01-06-2004, 09:45 AM
Sorry for not bein around yesterday (104 fevers suck majorly)
ok, I give up on the petitiononline thing. I'm removeing it as we speak.

As for causeing more harm then good: I honestly dont think a few extra people helping to look for sponsors is a bad thing. Besides, I have repeatedly said thsi might not work. Then again we dont know unless we try.

Studmaster
01-07-2004, 12:10 PM
Guys, as much as I can appulad your enthuisam, I'm going to have to burst your bubbles here. Being a staff member of a convention, I can tell you straight out now, that you're on a fultile quest here. Organizing a con takes much, much more than just getting sponsors, some anime to watch, and people who say they want to help. There's loads of organizational, logistical, finicial, and other things that go behind the scenes that one would never fantom unless they were inside the box doing this. This is why cons come and go, because if one major thing goes wrong, then there is no way to recover.

And as Patrick D said, unless CPM is doing something themselves, not much else can be done, so honestly, unless a miracle happens, you will not see a Convention like this in NYC for quite some time. (Almost any convention in NYC has to be for profit due to the majorly expensive startup costs)

The Lord XL
01-07-2004, 03:49 PM
Stud.... Don't cha' beleive in miracles?....

We can do this. The odds are against us, but I have a good feeling about this. We can bring the best convention in NY back! All we need is an army, an otaku army!

echocharlie
01-07-2004, 04:52 PM
Stud.... Don't cha' beleive in miracles?....

We can do this. The odds are against us, but I have a good feeling about this. We can bring the best convention in NY back! All we need is an army, an otaku army!

Well, there kind of is an army trying to bring a quality anime convention
to the NY area. It's called AnimeNext, and it's being organized by some
fans who wanted a cool, inexpensive, non-profit event close by. In
order to get the thing off the ground, we decided to start the convention
outside NYC, but as close as we could get it. This allowed us to avoid
the expensive City hotels and labor charges, and pass the savings on to
the attendees.

We're in Secaucus, NJ on 5 miles (!) away from the Marriott Marquis. You
can get to the hotel via a 20 minute NJ transit bus out of the Port Authority.
Cool, huh?

http://www.animenext.org

The Lord XL
01-07-2004, 05:56 PM
^ Yea I know I've been to Anime Next before :thumbsup:

But still, the more anime conventions the better! :jjacks:

NiGHTmaren
01-07-2004, 08:24 PM
I really want to see BAAF happen...=_= I had a whole group planning to go, but if BAAF doesn't happen then we'll just move that to AnimeNEXT. And I'll be Souma Ayame for one day and Kurama for another at AnimeNEXT. ^_^

*~Hime no Toki~*

TwiliteSea
01-08-2004, 07:45 PM
*holds up sign* SAVE BAAF! SAVE BAAF!

hnt
01-08-2004, 07:50 PM
Yes! T_T *does what Twilite does* Oh, I hope BAAF updates soon

TwiliteSea
01-08-2004, 08:06 PM
I know, I just went back to the site like 2 minutes ago and the only Update on the Announcements is that Sept 5th one about the photos x.X Update, people!

Genki Chan
01-08-2004, 11:03 PM
Iii, BAAF better come back again this year! Shoujocon and AnimeNEXT have both gone back to New Jersey T_T Hopefully all of this positive feedback for the con will help generate a new sponsor. It's worth trying, right?

animeandska
01-09-2004, 12:44 PM
oo that sucks... there goes 2 anime conventions for me but oh well I guess I'll just have to deal with it... I must agree with Studmaster... he knows how it works with cons and maybe if we all chipped in a large sum of money- very large.... very.... its most likely impossible that there will be another BAAF

Eriol
01-09-2004, 02:38 PM
oo that sucks... there goes 2 anime conventions for me but oh well I guess I'll just have to deal with it... I must agree with Studmaster... he knows how it works with cons and maybe if we all chipped in a large sum of money- very large.... very.... its most likely impossible that there will not be another BAAF

A con as large as BAAF is going to cost a lot. A small con is even going to cost more than you think.

Money is needed to set up a con and pay off bills, especially if the con does not do so well. If the con is in a hotel, the hotel wants a guaranteed number of rooms booked for the event, or they won't commit to the con. If you do not get the number of attendees for the con, the hotel will hold the con liable to pay the difference for unused hotel rooms under the terms of the contract. If the con is not structured properly, the people heading the con end up personally liable.

Make no mistake, running a con is serious business. Money is only one issue.

Dokudel
01-13-2004, 06:53 PM
Why is this company not sponsering BAAF anymore?I was really looking forward to this con.I mean Ive been telling kids in school about it and me and my 10 buddies or more are going.And some of us are going to get a hotel room.I helped volunteer this BAAF 2003.And it was so fun working with them.This is like the only con in NYC and it's so close.It aint easy paying tolls or train rides to go out of state (Like I did for AnimeNext).So I hope someone can do something to get someone to sponser BAAF. *Peace sign*

echocharlie
01-14-2004, 01:48 PM
Iii, BAAF better come back again this year! Shoujocon and AnimeNEXT have both gone back to New Jersey T_T Hopefully all of this positive feedback for the con will help generate a new sponsor. It's worth trying, right?

Don't know if you realize this, but even though AnimeNext is in Secaucus, NJ this year, it's actually *closer* to NYC than last year when it was in Rye Brook NY. Rye Brook is 30 miles away from NYC, while Secaucus, NJ is only 5 miles away. And you can grab a bus out of the Port Authority, and be there in 15 minutes.

echocharlie
01-14-2004, 01:52 PM
Why is this company not sponsering BAAF anymore?I was really looking forward to this con.I mean Ive been telling kids in school about it and me and my 10 buddies or more are going.And some of us are going to get a hotel room.I helped volunteer this BAAF 2003.And it was so fun working with them.This is like the only con in NYC and it's so close.It aint easy paying tolls or train rides to go out of state (Like I did for AnimeNext).So I hope someone can do something to get someone to sponser BAAF. *Peace sign*

BAAF had many sponsors, not just one sponsor. Mitsubishi was the largest sponsor and got the most billing. I found it strange that a auto company was sponsoring an anime convention, but it was kind of cool. BAAF also had major sponsorships from Raijin Comics and Japan Airlines.

I've heard through the grapevine that BAAF will be holding a planning meeting later this month. We'll have to wait for them to announce something. The only official thing that I've heard is that the dates and location are TBD (to be determined).

BTW, in 2003, was held in NY which is the same state as BAAF. And in 2002 & 2004, it's held in Secaucus NJ, only 5 miles away from midtown Manhattan (as I've said in a previous post).

TwiliteSea
01-15-2004, 01:14 PM
Just a hunch about why Mitsubishi was sponsoring but BAAF 03 focused on a few animes, one was Initial D. Initial D -> cars -> Mitsubishi?

echocharlie
01-15-2004, 03:13 PM
Just a hunch about why Mitsubishi was sponsoring but BAAF 03 focused on a few animes, one was Initial D. Initial D -> cars -> Mitsubishi?

The main car in Initial D is a Toyota Trueno. I don't see why Mitsubishi would want to promote a competitor's product. They were pushing the Lancer, but that isn't a real prominent car in the series from what I've seen. Also, BAAF is organized by CPM, and Initial D is a Tokyopop title. So it is really confusing to me.

Eriol
01-15-2004, 04:24 PM
The main car in Initial D is a Toyota Trueno. I don't see why Mitsubishi would want to promote a competitor's product. They were pushing the Lancer, but that isn't a real prominent car in the series from what I've seen. Also, BAAF is organized by CPM, and Initial D is a Tokyopop title. So it is really confusing to me.

What prompted the marketing and business department to arrange a mixed-up promotion?

Maybe it is that poor organization that led BAAF to its downfall?

hnt
01-15-2004, 06:41 PM
I would agree with the poor organization :P

dressdragn
01-16-2004, 02:35 PM
Guys, as much as I can appulad your enthuisam, I'm going to have to burst your bubbles here. Being a staff member of a convention, I can tell you straight out now, that you're on a fultile quest here. Organizing a con takes much, much more than just getting sponsors, some anime to watch, and people who say they want to help. There's loads of organizational, logistical, finicial, and other things that go behind the scenes that one would never fantom unless they were inside the box doing this. This is why cons come and go, because if one major thing goes wrong, then there is no way to recover.

And as Patrick D said, unless CPM is doing something themselves, not much else can be done, so honestly, unless a miracle happens, you will not see a Convention like this in NYC for quite some time. (Almost any convention in NYC has to be for profit due to the majorly expensive startup costs)


Hi,

Anna Fischer here, former Live Events Cordinator for Big Apple Anime Fest. Both Stud Master ad Jingles make good points. While BAAF did have a major disadvantage to other cons, in that it's much much much more expensive to run a convention in NYC then it is in other more rural locations, they did get an impressive turn out, and fairly extensive media attn. Letters from the mayor, NY times, and Fox Five News reporters attending the con, some pretty serious plugs by cartoon network etc.

Now, while this in it's self dosen't balance out the high cost of running the convention, it is an exlent way to showcase it's sponsors products. I'm sure many of the convention sponsors expirenced an increase in intrest in there products during and directly after the convention. Also it's not only fans that CPM and it's partners are reaching, but also other potential asian bussness partners. Invite, the heads of every big animation production org, show them a good time, show them you have the attn of the American public and they'll be more likely to licence there products to you in the future.

So as long as the indirect profits of having a con are greater then the total costs, then it is likely that they will continue to host them.

What you can do to help. Jingles is absolutly right in that the more people are intrested and involved in BAAF the more likely the convention is to continue. So don't be shy, let people know that BAAF is important to you. The contact info for most sponsors should be on that sponsors website, so write to CPM, Tokyo Pop, 4kids, etc and let them know that you suport there continuing eforts to bring anime conventions to NYC.

~Anna

dressdragn
01-16-2004, 02:54 PM
A con as large as BAAF is going to cost a lot. A small con is even going to cost more than you think.

Money is needed to set up a con and pay off bills, especially if the con does not do so well. If the con is in a hotel, the hotel wants a guaranteed number of rooms booked for the event, or they won't commit to the con. If you do not get the number of attendees for the con, the hotel will hold the con liable to pay the difference for unused hotel rooms under the terms of the contract. If the con is not structured properly, the people heading the con end up personally liable.

Make no mistake, running a con is serious business. Money is only one issue.

The rental of the Hotel isn't the only thing that costs a convention big. There are a lot of hidden costs, hotels carge for the electricty used (try running 8 mikes in every room, pluss projectors vcrs, stage lights, dvd players ect.) and for things like clean up crews, the rental of chairs, the placment and refill of those free watter things.

Another major expence is guests, we're lucky to have a convention like BAAF that can bring in big names. B/c most small cons would not be able to afford the cost of flying over guests and there entorage (most fly first class only) putting them up in a hotel for 4 or 5 days, feading them, hiring translators and security to go with them everywhere during there stay.

Then theres the rental of all of the equipment, paying a tech staff to set it up, insurance for the equipment, insurance for the event, city permits, parking permits, the shiping costs to get all the anime there showing to the convention, and then back to where ever it came from.

This is why it's so hard to get anime con's started, however were very lucky b/c we have an increasing number of con's finding the start up capital to put on conventions, wich leads to more and better conventions to chose from.

Ranma Saotome
01-17-2004, 01:29 PM
Guys, as much as I can appulad your enthuisam, I'm going to have to burst your bubbles here. Being a staff member of a convention, I can tell you straight out now, that you're on a fultile quest here. Organizing a con takes much, much more than just getting sponsors, some anime to watch, and people who say they want to help. There's loads of organizational, logistical, finicial, and other things that go behind the scenes that one would never fantom unless they were inside the box doing this. This is why cons come and go, because if one major thing goes wrong, then there is no way to recover.

And as Patrick D said, unless CPM is doing something themselves, not much else can be done, so honestly, unless a miracle happens, you will not see a Convention like this in NYC for quite some time. (Almost any convention in NYC has to be for profit due to the majorly expensive startup costs)

I see your hatred for BAAF is just flowing right through here.

Lil
01-17-2004, 10:39 PM
I would agree with the poor organization :P

I hate to say it... but BAAF was a big dissapointment to me. The dealer's room was Ok. The Video Game room was run completly wrong, and didn't have enough space or games... and even controllers. Of all the anime showing Alien 9 was the only one to catch my eye. (But I think that was more of a personal yaste issue..) All the others I've either seen already or was uninterested in. The music videos had a sad sad turnout. I think there was only 5? And For the many interested in them there was not enough space in the room and people were forced to leave. Then there was the overall poor organization. Staff members should have had a breifing of the major events happening so they could help lost con-goers. Many of the showing rooms were in hard to find locations. Cosplayers were constantly getting yelled at for having pictures taken of them in the wrong spot. There should have been rope or something to block off areas that traffic needed to go through...... I could keep going..... but I won't. I'm sorry to those who like BAAF, but it wasn't my taste of tea.

rhichan
01-18-2004, 08:44 AM
I agree with Lil. The only reason I had a blast at BAAF was because of the people, not the con itself. The planning was poor and they lied about how many people were there.
However, I would like to see it come again because it's one of the only New England-area cons I have easy access to. (Except Anime Boston!)

Ranma Saotome
01-18-2004, 09:50 PM
Okay here it is...

We don't need any SAve the BAAF petitions. Whethere you liked it or not, or even travelling hours to another con to fill your September con goodnees... There will be a BAAF 2004. I was told this by member of NYO! Cosplay, the anime/cosplay club that ALSO help ran the BAAF such as the videogame room and the masquerade.

Lemme say a few things okay? I don't know about the others in my club, but I take it personal when you down BAAF since we did our best to help you have a fun experience.

As for whoever didn't like the videogame room, lemme tell you. My club brought in our own consoles for you to play, so I'm very fucking sorry that we didn't have 3 - 5 of each consoles to satisfy your Soul Calibur 2, DDR, and Smash Bros goodness. And if that's not a good enough reason, then for 2k4, you bring in your own consoles and you run the game room. The least we could've gotten was a thank you.

And not to sound spiteful... If you didn't like BAAF, don't come back alright? We could use the extra space for people who enjoyed it.

Sorahana
01-18-2004, 10:46 PM
Okay here it is...

We don't need any SAve the BAAF petitions. Whethere you liked it or not, or even travelling hours to another con to fill your September con goodnees... There will be a BAAF 2004. I was told this by member of NYO! Cosplay, the anime/cosplay club that ALSO help ran the BAAF such as the videogame room and the masquerade.

Lemme say a few things okay? I don't know about the others in my club, but I take it personal when you down BAAF since we did our best to help you have a fun experience.

As for whoever didn't like the videogame room, lemme tell you. My club brought in our own consoles for you to play, so I'm very fucking sorry that we didn't have 3 - 5 of each consoles to satisfy your Soul Calibur 2, DDR, and Smash Bros goodness. And if that's not a good enough reason, then for 2k4, you bring in your own consoles and you run the game room. The least we could've gotten was a thank you.

And not to sound spiteful... If you didn't like BAAF, don't come back alright? We could use the extra space for people who enjoyed it.


Nicely said Ranma ^o^. I will definetly be at BAAF 04! We deicded that on the way home from BAAF 03! Lol ^^;. I'm so excited now!! squeee! :jumps up and down and glomps Ranma:

KaineMaxwell
01-19-2004, 08:27 AM
Nicely said. there is a BAAF this year if possibly I'd like to assist somehow.

hnt
01-19-2004, 09:51 AM
YES! XD I am so coming! XD Bai AnimeNext then... I can only afford 1 convention XD

Studmaster
01-19-2004, 10:45 AM
I see your hatred for BAAF is just flowing right through here.

Sure, dude, Sure. :rolleyes:

Well, it seems like there will be a BAAF '04, and honestly I'm happy that there will be a con. Even though I've been disaapointed by this con, I would like to see it succeed one way or another for all the people that want to see it happen. As for myself, I will be going elsewhere if the con is held Labor Day weekend.

echocharlie
01-19-2004, 11:08 AM
Okay here it is...

We don't need any SAve the BAAF petitions. Whethere you liked it or not, or even travelling hours to another con to fill your September con goodnees... There will be a BAAF 2004. I was told this by member of NYO! Cosplay, the anime/cosplay club that ALSO help ran the BAAF such as the videogame room and the masquerade.


I'm an AnimeNext Staffer, and we also helped out BAAF by running the Manga Room at BAAF in 2003. But even though we were involved, we don't get much info and have to keep our ears to the ground for other sources of info.

At AnimeNext, I was told by the Dealer's Room coordinator (Emma R) and the Operations & Logistics director (Walter S) of BAAF 2003 that dates & location for BAAF 2004 were "to be determined". They also confirmed that the majority of the BAAF staffers were relieved of their duties, including them. The only other official word I've heard since then is that there would be a BAAF 2004 planning meeting this month.

If your friend attended this meeting, then I'd be curious to hear where & when BAAF '04 will be? I know that back in 2001, they signed a 3 year contract with the Marriott Marquis for Labor day Weekend. I talked to the COO of BAAF 2003 (Victor E) at Otakon in 2003, and he informed me that all contracts are negotiable, implying that he was working on getting out of their existing contract. The fact that BAAF took down the info about 2004 (it was up there) on their webpage after 2003 indicates that they were definitely at least thinking about another venue/date.

So... got any more info?

Ranma Saotome
01-19-2004, 12:11 PM
Echocharlie, that is all I was told. More information is to be posted on their website next month. If I hear anything else more, I shall post it. =]

la_belle
01-19-2004, 02:20 PM
if there is a BAAF, i suppose the staff would have to work doubly hard to achieve good quality for the con..cuz it is kinda late..

dressdragn
01-19-2004, 05:21 PM
BAAF is unique in that they have a full time staff, not just people volentering in there spare time, wich helps them pull things together quicker then most cons.

At the very least I expect that BAAF will continue as a film festival (think first BAAF)

~Anna

Eriol
01-19-2004, 09:20 PM
BAAF is unique in that they have a full time staff, not just people volentering in there spare time, wich helps them pull things together quicker then most cons.

At the very least I expect that BAAF will continue as a film festival (think first BAAF)

~Anna


That is what I have always expected when I hear BAAF. The con was an tacked on, but I don't think the logistics ever worked right, since the full-time staff's obligation is to run the film festival. Divided resources...

BAAF was definitely unique as a film festival, and it should continue that tradition. They had a lot of world premieres and introduced animation from Korea.

The Lord XL
01-19-2004, 11:50 PM
That is what I have always expected when I hear BAAF. The con was an tacked on, but I don't think the logistics ever worked right, since the full-time staff's obligation is to run the film festival. Divided resources...

BAAF was definitely unique as a film festival, and it should continue that tradition. They had a lot of world premieres and introduced animation from Korea.

Thats exactly why I want to save the BAAF! As a con, I can say it pretty much sucked, but as a Film Fest.... Damn.... Just.... Wow....

Ranma Saotome
01-20-2004, 12:01 AM
That is what I have always expected when I hear BAAF. The con was an tacked on, but I don't think the logistics ever worked right, since the full-time staff's obligation is to run the film festival. Divided resources...

BAAF was definitely unique as a film festival, and it should continue that tradition. They had a lot of world premieres and introduced animation from Korea.

Okyay, I'm going by info here as to what I know. If I'm worng, please correct me.

BAAF 2001 was a con and not a film festival, even thought that was it's catch phrase of some sorts. It was a film festival in 2002 because AXNY did most of the con aspect. BAAF supplied the guests and and films. As for 2003, well ya know. ^^

Eriol
01-20-2004, 12:05 PM
BAAF 2001 was a con and not a film festival, even thought that was it's catch phrase of some sorts. It was a film festival in 2002 because AXNY did most of the con aspect. BAAF supplied the guests and and films. As for 2003, well ya know. ^^

Here is an archive of BAAF date Jan. 2002, when BAAF 2001 just ended.
http://web.archive.org/web/20020109080049/http://www.bigappleanimefest.org/

Also, look at this:
http://web.archive.org/web/20020806082722/www.bigappleanimefest.org/aboutus.cfm

The text on the pages only confirms what I remember vividly: it was an anime festival and industry convention. The cosplay was the only major "anime con" event billed there. It was not a standard anime convention at that time. That was a big reason for me not to attend BAAF 2001.

BAAF was an anime film festival and industry convention to begin with. They changed the structure in 2002 to add more standard anime convention activites.

hnt
01-20-2004, 07:36 PM
BAAF 01 was kinda like a con. I mean, there were the basics like Dealers' Room and panels. I still remember that time o_O I will never forget that "badge" bracelet :P

Ranma Saotome
01-20-2004, 09:54 PM
BAAF 01 was kinda like a con. I mean, there were the basics like Dealers' Room and panels. I still remember that time o_O I will never forget that "badge" bracelet :P


Oh yeah! :p I was on staff in 2001! ^^

asterphage
01-21-2004, 03:32 AM
How to save BAAF from sucking:
(The statements below are mostly a rephrasing of what I've been told by people who were employed by BAAF for the planning of the 2003 convention.)

-BAAF 2003 was almost entirely run by people who had never organized an anime convention before. CPM had whatever reasons they had for hiring the people they did - but experience was not a qualification. In fact, most of the upper-level staffers had NEVER BEEN TO A CON.

-The only reason BAAF 2003 was better than AXNY was because a few people at BAAF actually paid attention to people's complaints and tried to fix things.

-CPM fired the entire BAAF staff a month after the con. I don't know why - maybe because the con didn't live up to their unrealistic expectations, maybe because they just didn't want to pay them for the next few months. CPM is just starting to get a new team for BAAF '04 together now.


If you want next year's BAAF to not suck, write to BAAF and tell them to hire back anyone who did a good job in '03, and to fill the remaining slots with people who have *experience* working at conventions.
Otherwise, CPM will probably just fill the whole BAAF staff with first-timers again - and if they do that, they probably won't learn ANYTHING from their past mistakes.

hnt
01-21-2004, 08:13 PM
Does that mean staffers like Ryoko Kobayashi (I tink that was her name... oh boy... my memory) aren't on the staff anymore? o.o;

RoboGundam6
01-22-2004, 10:17 AM
Whoa, what'd I missed?! The admin is bashing new members (can't blame him/her on many), and BAAF chaos @_@!

I do agree with the whole bad volenteer thing (not all of them are), but I got yelled at alot >_<. At the next con, we will so need a "resting spot" to just hang out and talk/ meet people. Cuz we couldn't rest our feet on the floor really ><.

If any of BAAF cosplayer wanna meet me in real life, spring break is a good place to start, message me here if you wanna, cuz my IM is down on AIM lol

dressdragn
01-22-2004, 01:02 PM
Does that mean staffers like Ryoko Kobayashi (I tink that was her name... oh boy... my memory) aren't on the staff anymore? o.o;


I don't know about Ryoko specificly, b/c she dose translating for CPM in the off season, but pretty much yes.

~Anna

asterphage
01-22-2004, 02:19 PM
I don't know about Ryoko specificly, b/c she dose translating for CPM in the off season, but pretty much yes.

Yeah, like Anna said, if they worked for CPM, they could still work for CPM, but everyone who only was hired for BAAF is gone.

Jubie-Chan
01-27-2004, 12:13 AM
Well after running through fourms on the BAAF fourms I got a bit more information.

Why did Mitsubishi drop BAAF as a sponser?
They sponsered them in the first place cause of Initial D and it's use of cars. They thought it'd be a good promotion. But the 04 con has nothing to do with it so they dropped them.

When will we hear new news?
I read the BAAF is in meeting about it and we will be informed by the end of feburary. So hold tight!

now as for me I really didn't enjoy the BAAF 03. I went in 02 and had a ball! but this time around it was to much of a hassle and to crowded. To expensive so many lines. It's like going to six flags. So unless I hear good things, I'm planing on going to a differnt convention in the summer then put up with the agravation. (You all should already know the gripes of the staff and volunteering. I actually met a staffer who was a volunteer at the Anime Next and he said he was put on a shift of 2 and a half days straight and it was just horrible)
I actually will wait until the end of february until I plan anything for the summer conventions. There is hope yet

RoboGundam6
01-27-2004, 11:41 AM
I'm kinda am geeting fed up with the message board at BAAF, the people there talk off topic ALL the time, and when I wanna stay ON topic, I sound lame and bossy....joy. Look I'm trying to SAVE the BAAF from enough problems as IS!

It feels like 10 year old typeing most of the time, on stuipd stuff they can talk and type about else were...ther is something called AIM dangit.

hnt
01-27-2004, 03:37 PM
I KNOW EXACTLY HOW YOU FEEL!!!! There are some of the new members that like... make all the topics go... OFF TOPIC! I FEEL LIKE SQUISHING THEM! +___+

la_belle
01-27-2004, 07:02 PM
dude i totally hate the forums at baaf, the moderators dont even do anything and everything is off topic so i cant even get any info and theres this one member there that gets on my nerves everytime by flooding the whole forum with useless nonsense*cough*

hnt
01-27-2004, 07:12 PM
I'm "Anko" on the BAAF Forums and I'm usually the ones answering the questions on the forum while the other forum "members" talk about nonsense like "water" or sometimes they just leave random messages like "MUWAH." ......... I'm trying to hint some "clues" to the posters without exploding my top

dressdragn
01-28-2004, 10:13 AM
I'm kinda am geeting fed up with the message board at BAAF, the people there talk off topic ALL the time, and when I wanna stay ON topic, I sound lame and bossy....joy. Look I'm trying to SAVE the BAAF from enough problems as IS!

It feels like 10 year old typeing most of the time, on stuipd stuff they can talk and type about else were...ther is something called AIM dangit.

Since theres no BAAF staff, the fourms are pretty much un-moderated.

~Anna

hnt
01-28-2004, 11:05 AM
Somebody just stop them +___+ Some of the people talking at the forums aren't even going to BAAF (or have never been to BAAF) o_O And most of the new users are like on posting rampages, trying to get the highest post number... I think there was one thread "congratulating" those that are at the "top" list....... so annoying.

I'm guessing there is no way to um... transfer power from admin to another person in charge? ;_;

dressdragn
01-28-2004, 01:14 PM
Somebody just stop them +___+ Some of the people talking at the forums aren't even going to BAAF (or have never been to BAAF) o_O And most of the new users are like on posting rampages, trying to get the highest post number... I think there was one thread "congratulating" those that are at the "top" list....... so annoying.

I'm guessing there is no way to um... transfer power from admin to another person in charge? ;_;


Not realy, I mean since theres no BAAF staff the only person who would be doing anything forums wise would be this sweet guy who works at CPM. He proably dose tec stuff, but his work at CPM is a full time job, and I don't think they read or edit the posts, just keep the site up and running.

~Anna

lordinuyasha366
01-30-2004, 02:46 PM
hey ranama can you im me on aol or yahoo my aol is kuramaofdeath my yahoo is lordinuyasha any one that knows info on BAAF 2004 when it might be im me please

Sorahana
01-30-2004, 02:56 PM
Originally Posted by hnt
Somebody just stop them +___+ Some of the people talking at the forums aren't even going to BAAF (or have never been to BAAF) o_O And most of the new users are like on posting rampages, trying to get the highest post number... I think there was one thread "congratulating" those that are at the "top" list....... so annoying.

I'm guessing there is no way to um... transfer power from admin to another person in charge? ;_;


Yea I know. I can't stand it *sigh*. They like RP and crap. I mean come on! Thats not what the board is there for --;. Anyway I hope we find out about BAAF soon...

lordinuyasha366
01-30-2004, 03:09 PM
i dont like rp crap but shit enough with additude people u all need to die except the ones with a attatuide okay no reason for making fun of rp shit i mean come on grow up make fun of your self




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lordinuyasha366
01-30-2004, 03:09 PM
i need to find out bad

dressdragn
01-30-2004, 03:21 PM
i need to find out bad


If you need info on BAAF in a hurry the best thing to do would be to email Central Park Media. Since they run the festival they would be able to give you the most accurate info.

~Anna

KaineMaxwell
01-30-2004, 03:44 PM
Dude calm down! Soon as we know anything someone's bound to post it here. Just cool out and stop insulting people.

lordinuyasha366
01-30-2004, 05:39 PM
srry didn't mean to hurt any 1 this will be my first and how much do u pay to get in
srry

lordinuyasha366
01-30-2004, 05:41 PM
wuts central park media's site

KaineMaxwell
01-30-2004, 07:26 PM
I dunno. Have you tried introducing yourself to the res tof us here or reading the FAQ?

Look, no one knows what's going on for BAAF right now, as soon as we know the details will be spread around, until then be patient.

Eriol
01-30-2004, 10:52 PM
Central Park Media's Website is http://www.centralparkmedia.com/
There is no information on the front page about BAAF, so I think CPM has not moved on this issue yet.

I think the BAAF forums are a lost cause until CPM moderates the forum or gets trusted people to moderate.

lordinuyasha366
01-30-2004, 11:01 PM
sorry i wasnt demanding or any thing like that i was curios and i was calm sorry

lordinuyasha366
01-30-2004, 11:51 PM
hi all sorry about before and is it possible this could just be a rumor that a fired worker and it grew to this extent

Eriol
01-31-2004, 12:22 AM
All we know is that BAAF fired/laid off its convention staff. At this point, the fate of the convention is unknown. Several people have mentioned that CPM is going to have a discussion in Feb. regarding the fate of the convention.

You can contact CPM to ask about the fate of the convention, but they probably won't say anything to anyone until they issue an announcement at the BAAF site. The last thing they would want is rumors to go spreading around.

lordinuyasha366
01-31-2004, 12:03 PM
thanks
and i feel stupid but how do i set up my profile

hnt
01-31-2004, 01:00 PM
To set-up your profile, scroll to the top of this thread (or any thread), and find "USER CP." Click on that. When it loads, on the left where the navigation bar is, find "Edit Profile" (I think). Hope that helps. ^^;

lordinuyasha366
01-31-2004, 01:09 PM
thank you ^_^

lordinuyasha366
01-31-2004, 11:06 PM
if any one wants to chat with me on these boards i'll be on at noon tommorow
(sunday)

la_belle
02-02-2004, 08:37 PM
Yea I know. I can't stand it *sigh*. They like RP and crap. I mean come on! Thats not what the board is there for --;. Anyway I hope we find out about BAAF soon...

http://www.bigappleanimefest.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=954

lord xl started a thread on something about this and currently im arguing with the 2 main flooders...rather fun actually..i just love debating..im on a roll :jjacks: :jjacks: anyone wanna join me?

neoangelwink
02-11-2004, 12:03 AM
i vote for baaf to be back!!!!

RoboGundam6
02-12-2004, 12:35 PM
Ok, I'm still on the BAAF forums, I'm bashing spammers and stuff there, I even e-mail the BAAF Mod., but was kind...a bit. Look, if they need help with the board I will HELP!!! I will not go ban happy, but I will ban and erase members who do not contribute and don't even go to the con. Its crazy there, i brought some stabity to a few threads, but many can't be saved, its crazy.

I'm trying to be kind, but my siganture in the BAAF forums says it all. The poeple there are being babies. Sorry for the rant, but BAAF is in BAD shape they need help.

PatrickD
02-12-2004, 04:26 PM
i vote for baaf to be back!!!!

I don't think it's up for a vote. It's whatever The Powers That Be decide.

Karisu-sama
02-13-2004, 12:58 AM
i dont like rp crap but shit enough with additude people u all need to die except the ones with a attatuide okay no reason for making fun of rp shit i mean come on grow up make fun of your self


"people u all need to die"??

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