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Kokuu
02-09-2004, 01:28 AM
I think one of the most difficult parts about crossplay is the face. In general, male and female faces are very different. Male facial features are much more angular, and sharp not to mention facial hair, while feminine faces are much more rounded and smooth. A face can make or break a crossplay, since one can usually tell one's true gender by just studying their face.

When I'm on stage portraying a guy, I will use a beard or mustache, darken and thicken my eyebrows, add a little bit of stubble, and carefully apply makeup that helps make my face look more angular. It works fine for the stage, when you're far away from the audience, and you have stage lights, but for cosplay your "audience" is up close, and stage makeup just looks plain strange. And most guys in anime don't have facial hair either.

I have a feminine face. It's pretty round, and no matter what I do, it always looks feminine. Is it because I know that I'm a girl, that it looks really feminine? Does anyone have any ideas on making a face a bit more masculine, or facial expressions that don't completely give away my girl-ness?

inertia
02-09-2004, 04:06 AM
There's the brow thing... Women have higher eyebrows than men. Partly it's due to plucking but it's also the expression. If you pull your brows a little down and together like you're angry, it'll look more masculine.

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Maybe women don't need to PULL the eyebrows down... maybe we're unconsciously holding them UP so it's more a matter of relaxing the muscles... ^^;

Karisu-sama
02-09-2004, 04:19 AM
I DON'T do facial hair. :p (Other than NOT plucking my eyebrows, except for extraneous hairs that occasionally grow outside the natural line.)

I recommend playing down the natural girly lip color - try to make your lip color closer to your facial skin tone.

Other than carefully applying makeup to make the chin and cheekbones look more angular and prominent, the other options I can immediately think of are:

1) subtle latex prosthetic work (just some thin pieces in the right places)

2) getting older, which usually makes one's face more angular (you lose the baby fat), at least if you are relatively skinny.

Option 2 is what works for me. :p Dang it. :p http://images.cosplay.com/showphoto.php?photo=59898&password=&sort=1&cat=500&page=1

I think particular facial expressions count for less than the amount of changes in expression. Girls are in general more expressive; they show their emotions more, and change expression more frequently.

dani
02-09-2004, 08:55 AM
I just finished watching the Boy Meets Girl TV program, where people are made up and trained to go live as the opposite gender for a week, and it was very clear: the two ladies had professional makeup, including top of the line beard prosthesis, plus training in how to move, walk and speak.

When they later interviewed the people that interacted with them, almost all knew exactly that there was a lady under that beard.

No doubt about it, gender illusion is an art that still needs to be perfected...

Have fun...

Dani

Anele
02-09-2004, 10:31 AM
Wow, Kokuu read my mind!! I was actually going to post a thread asking what make-up steps you would need to take to look more masculine (I, as well, am female). Thank goodness I didn't double-post on this subject. Thanks, Kokuu.

I have to ask this question, and no, I'm not hijacking the thread from you, lol. XD Since I am working very hard on getting my Sephiroth to actually look like Sephiroth, I don't think a feminine face would quite work out. If anybody wants to see what his facial features look like (position of cheekbones, etc.), there are pics in the attachments.

Thanks for your input, and thanks again Kokuu! *hugs*

:D

Hanyaan
02-09-2004, 04:40 PM
I'd be VERY interested to find out how to fix some mega-feminine face stuff. My face...well, take a look at it. It's convincing for Child Loki or Phibrizzo, but not anything else.

Olivia
02-09-2004, 05:42 PM
Invest in a good make-up text book. I've got one, it cost 60 bucks, and I love it. It shows how-to make-up on EVERYTHING, from making your crooked nose more straight to thinning out your whole face. "The Technique of the Professional Make-up Artist Revised Edition" is what it's called. I think every crossplayer and cossplayer should get one. :thumbsup:

Anele
02-09-2004, 08:06 PM
If it wasn't so much, I'd be quick to buy it. Care to offer any tips, Olivia?

Volksen
02-11-2004, 01:07 AM
Are there any make-up tricks to making the face look slimmer and the nose less prominent?