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Chimera_Zero
11-14-2002, 07:58 AM
Hihi! So, what are your favorite androgynous character(s)? One of mine is Miki from Revolutionary Girl Utena and Dilaundau(sp?) from Escaflowne.

psythe
11-14-2002, 08:13 AM
Now there's a specific topic.

Ummm. Phantom, from Boogiepop Phantom.

Karasu
11-14-2002, 10:05 AM
Haruka from Sailor Moon (especially Stars) and Aburatsubo from Maho Tsukai Tai (Magic Users Club).

Nietsche
11-14-2002, 10:21 AM
Lets see...
Is Ranma androgenous?...hmm..maybe not...

Nuriko from Fushigi Yuugi....
Shun from Kokowa Greenwood....
bwahahahahah! then again i don'tthink they're androgenous either..hmmm....
oh Yeah.. Stephanie from Sorcerous Stabber Orphen...

Sami
11-14-2002, 10:54 AM
Shun is very androgynous! :D :D Aaaaa so cute! Haha, I loved that series..

Something Lulu
11-14-2002, 12:32 PM
Has to be Nuriko. He cracks me up! lol And he can be such a bitch at times.

Mei Lan Chang
11-14-2002, 02:11 PM
Androngynous: Being neither distinguishably masculine nor feminine, as in dress, appearance, or behavior.

My...that really does force you to think....

D, from Vampire Hunter D, at least in the Bloodlust, sort of looks more feminine that the older movie, being that he is slender, wears tight leather and has pretty skin. But D still has a very come-hither sexy male voice. Both the lead female and a male demon shows signs of having a crush on him. So...this kiiiiinda makes him androngynous, ya?

Celine
11-14-2002, 02:43 PM
TOTALLY SHUN!!! Oh my gosh, I love him!!! ^_^ He pretty much defines the word androgynous! I'm so glad that other people have him listed as well. Greenwood is hilarious.

And Aburatsubo was also pretty nifty!

avagoyle
11-14-2002, 02:45 PM
oh my..... being a huge fan of yaoi and all things shounen ai and especially, above all else, bishounen, i could name a million. better stick to those y'all have heard of.

Hisui from wish.
D from petshop of horrors

::Explodes::

AH! TOO SEXY TO CONTINUE!!!

Michi
11-14-2002, 06:32 PM
- Kisaragi Shun from Here is Greenwood
- Nuriko from Fushigi Yuugi
- Count D from Petshop of Horrors
- Fujiwara no Sai from Hikaru no Go
- Tenou Haruka from Sailormoon
- Yaten Kou from Sailormoon.. and Seiya for that matter
- Aburatsubo Ayanojou from Mahou Tsukai Tai

..and I can think of a few more borderline characters.. but.. my head is sorta out of it today.. ^_^;

Bwaha.. so many cosplay ideas.. o_x

lupohki
11-14-2002, 06:32 PM
Dilandau is the man! .. I mean .. whatever

Umi
11-14-2002, 06:49 PM
Shun all the way baby! Nuriko is a close second tho' T.T ::sniff Nuriko!::

DJ(SiC)ness
11-14-2002, 08:16 PM
ahh does it have to be anime?

lol

Gipsie
11-14-2002, 08:36 PM
WOW! I am so surprised at you all!

Not one of you picked Ashura from "RG Veda"!

Well, that's alrite...becuz i pick Ashura! ~_^ Heheheheeee!!!!

chibi-dj
11-14-2002, 08:54 PM
oooo...reminds me of a song by garbage, "androgyny" i like that song
Yukito from Card captors is kinda adrongynous
Nuriko all the way!
mmmm...and who could forget Dilandau!

diqitaldreams
11-14-2002, 09:12 PM
TESTAMENT FROM guilty gear x! XD Wooha!

avagoyle
11-15-2002, 02:24 AM
i wouldn't consider nuriko androngynous at all. i'd never look at her and go "man"

but then i am a fan of people who don't belong to either gender, like my koi :P

Karisu-sama
11-15-2002, 02:40 AM
Originally posted by lupohki
Dilandau is the man! .. I mean .. whatever
Duuuuuh!!! Hee hee hee... and when Minami Takayama's voice first comes on, ya go.... "That's a woman! Well, at least that VOICE is..."

(Kenshin's voice too.)

The choice of seiyuu make the characters even more androgynous.

Sakura
11-15-2002, 05:59 AM
Karasu has the right idea ^_^ Aburatsubo and Haruka are two of my favorite characters in anime. I also like Ashura and Nuriko as well.

Nietsche
11-15-2002, 06:23 AM
Originally posted by Karisu-sama
The choice of seiyuu make the characters even more androgynous.
By that theory it would mean that Luffy from One piece is androgynous...

Most of the one's named here could be categorised as crossdressers or transexual since most of them can be distinguished as one gender even if it is not their natural gender.

This could go on to be a thesis if i carry on so i shall just say that the best portrayal of androgynous behaviour and look would have to be Syoma Yuki since the first time you see him you just can't say either way if he's male or female (supports Karisu's theory of Seiyuu choice too)

psythe
11-15-2002, 08:23 AM
Originally posted by diqitaldreams
TESTAMENT FROM guilty gear x! XD Wooha!

Whoo HA!

Good one digitaldreams!! I totally forgot about Testament!:thumbsup:

avagoyle
11-15-2002, 11:42 AM
Originally posted by Nietsche
Most of the one's named here could be categorised as crossdressers or transexual since most of them can be distinguished as one gender even if it is not their natural gender.

This could go on to be a thesis if i carry on so i shall just say that the best portrayal of androgynous behaviour and look would have to be Syoma Yuki since the first time you see him you just can't say either way if he's male or female (supports Karisu's theory of Seiyuu choice too)

yay~!! you understand the meaning of "androgynous" ^^;;;;

true androgynous people don't look like male or females. (you don't say gender as gender is a social construct and there is no such thing as "natural" gender, but you probably know that)

diqitaldreams
11-15-2002, 12:23 PM
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention Nataku from X/1999. v.v; ... So hot.

JoeBoeing
11-15-2002, 12:42 PM
I don't have anyone to add other than a funny story.

A friend of mine has pics of cute girls on his desktop and one day he had a pic of Aburatsubo from Mahou Tsukai Tai on his desktop and he was convinced he was a girl.

So, I showed him a fansub episode of it and boy 'o boy... was he crushed. He was talking about how he found the cutest anime babe in the world and it was a guy.

FRom,
Joe

Kendo_Bunny
11-16-2002, 07:44 PM
Since I love androgynous anime people...

My number one is, and will always be Dilandau. I did have a hard time classifying him at first, because I had a very grainy tape I couldn't tell until the first full-body close-up shot. (Vision of Escaflowne)

Others: Nuriko. I thought he was a girl until Hotohori saw his mark, then I thought he was a guy. Then I thought he was a girl, then a guy, and then I found out for sure. (Fushigi Yuugi)
Hotohori. Until he started talking, I thought he was a she. (Fushigi Yuugi)
Shun Kisaragi. I thought he was a girl at first, then I thought he was too flat chested to be a girl. (Here is Greenwood)
Tsubasa Kuranai. I had already known that Ukyo went to an all-boys school, so I never quite knew whether Tsubasa was a lesbian or a cross-dresser until the end of the manga. (Ranma 1/2)
Access Time. He's not really when you get a good long look at him, but the first KKJ I saw was a bunch of face picture stickers. I thought for months that he was a boyish-looking girl. (Kamikaze Kaitou Jeanne)

aeva
11-16-2002, 07:52 PM
Dilandau from Escaflowne, Ranma from.. well, Ranma, Tacto from A, A', and Nuriko from Fushigi Yuugi.

...and I read this one doujinshi where Miroku became androngynous and was pregnant with InuYasha's baby, but that's irrelevant.

MargauxZ
11-16-2002, 08:08 PM
Ryuunosuke from Urusei Yatsura.

And Nuriko ^_^

MargauxZ
11-16-2002, 08:10 PM
I don't really think that Ranma is androdgynous at all. He looks like a boy when in boy form and a girl when cursed in girl form. Just becasue he changes doesn't make it hard to tell what gender he is.

Kendo_Bunny
11-16-2002, 08:53 PM
Arg! I can't believe I forgot Ryuunosuke! She's my favorite... at least from what I've read of the manga.

Iori E
11-16-2002, 08:59 PM
Bridget from Guilty Gear XX. Everybody thought he was a girl for the longest time.
Heck, he's probably beyond androgynous! He's straight-up fem... ^___^

sailor-moon
11-16-2002, 09:02 PM
totally love tsukino usagi/sailor moon, thats why i cosplay as her^^.i like Nuriko too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!and Seiya! those are the top ones on my list

Usagi

Spooky Brew
11-16-2002, 09:03 PM
Sailor-Moon: Beautiful avatar!!!!
My favorite character? Oh God, that's a hard one...I'll come back to it.

sailor-moon
11-16-2002, 09:07 PM
thank you!!!!!!! that one is one of my "good" pictures^.^ so i put it up^.^

ooh ooh!!! i also LOVE inu yasha!! its those ears of his!!!!!*.*

MargauxZ
11-16-2002, 09:11 PM
Eeeeeeeeeee! Ryuu-chan fan! *Glomps Kendo_Bunny*

avagoyle
11-17-2002, 01:55 AM
Originally posted by MargauxZ
I don't really think that Ranma is androdgynous at all. He looks like a boy when in boy form and a girl when cursed in girl form. Just becasue he changes doesn't make it hard to tell what gender he is.

unfortunately, i think only like 4 people who responded to this know what the word "androngynous" means. ~____~

sometimes i feel that it's just me against a world of stupidy/ignorance, but then i go and read my beloved straight dope. ::snuggles it::

sailor-moon
11-17-2002, 02:03 AM
what is androngynous?

avagoyle
11-17-2002, 02:32 AM
Originally posted by sailor-moon
what is androngynous?

so glad you asked ^^

from www.dictionary.com
an·drog·y·nous
Biology. Having both female and male characteristics; hermaphroditic.
Being neither distinguishably masculine nor feminine, as in dress, appearance, or behavior

most of the anime characters who people have identified as androgynous, just look like the opposite sex than their natural one. for example, nuriko is not androgynous because while she is biologically male, she is very much a woman (ie, acts in a feminine way. well, was, i tend to ignore the last bit of nuriko's life as i find it to make no sense)

a biologically male character who looks female, is not androgynous. androgyny is more than just the way a person looks, it is also the way a person acts and dresses where you really can't tell what sex they are.

for example (this is a really bad picture, but i couldn't find any better)

http://perso.club-internet.fr/lindal/yaoi/kodaka/kimera4.jpg

Kimera from the manga by Kodaka Kazuma is a hermaphodite.
Kimera has a male facial structure with eyes that are a mix between male and female. (in the style of the mangaka)

from a manga you can get here in america, hisui from wish is pretty androgynous. he (damn english and it's overuse of gender-specific pronouns!) is the blond one here

http://kouryuu.nu/main.html

in wish the angels are genderless, (gender and sex are two different things), so it's unknown if hisui is normally called a "he" or "she". i prefer "he" being the yaoi fan that i am and hisui's apparent lack of chest.... although he doesn't wear tight clothes, so...

sorry to rant on like this, as a "major" in human sexuality and good friend of several people who have issues with sex and gender, i try to inform as many people as i can about such issues and get annoyed when people use incorrect terms.

sailor-moon
11-17-2002, 02:34 AM
thats ok^.^ now that was a good explination!

Usagi

Karisu-sama
11-17-2002, 05:26 AM
Dilandau is pretty hard (nigh impossible?) to pin down to either male or female, even though he calls himself "boku". Finally you just have intellectually accept "him" (until... "oh bother", as Winnie-the-Pooh would say... :p )

And after having seen Escaflowne, I kept waiting for mixed-message unclear Kenshin to prove he really WAS a man (I guess after the hot springs scene, it's supposed to be explicitly clear, at least to Kaoru if not to the viewer...)

Tenjou
11-17-2002, 08:23 AM
Hmm... Haruka from BSSM... I sorta think Yukito is androngynous (IMHO), hmm.... -ponders- that's really all I can think of for now. ^^::

KnuxieChan
11-17-2002, 09:10 AM
Aburatsubo from MuC
James! XD Waaiii! (Pokemon)
Kuja (FFIX)
Dilandau
*blushes*Kid Muscle kinda acts that way sometimes o.o'.. *shot for watching a kid like anime*

TsukiGuujin
12-29-2002, 12:21 AM
D from Petshop of Horrors! All FOUR Ds, actually. *laugh* *is cosplaying D for Yaoi Con next year*
And of course Rosiel from Angel Sanctuary!
I also really like Gren from the Jupiter Jazz episodes of Cowboy Bebop.

~~Tsuki Guujin~~

Galaxia
12-29-2002, 11:36 AM
Haruka from "Sailor Moon" :D

Chas
12-29-2002, 03:40 PM
Kakyou - X/1999
Aburatsubo Ayanojyou - Mahou Tsukai Tai!
Souma Ayame - Furuba
Souma Ritsu - Furuba
Souma Yuki - Furuba
Rosiel - Angel Sanctuary

Yeah, I dunno if Yukito-Sama's really androgynous. He's really-uke, but... hmm... maybe he's just more like a Super Bishie. XD

RoseDuelist
12-29-2002, 04:28 PM
People are saying that Ranma doesn't count and maybe she doesn't, but her female form is far too cute to go without mention. She is so CUTE!!

Anyway, Miki is one of my favs from Utena and then the friend of Sakura's brother in Card Captors. I forget his name. Anyway, you may say he doesn't count either, but he has very soft features and is very mellow for a guy.. he's feminine like Miki in a way. ^_^

Chas
12-29-2002, 10:29 PM
Originally posted by RoseDuelist
Anyway, Miki is one of my favs from Utena and then the friend of Sakura's brother in Card Captors. I forget his name. Anyway, you may say he doesn't count either, but he has very soft features and is very mellow for a guy.. he's feminine like Miki in a way. ^_^

::twitches at use of dub name:: Eheh, that'd be Yukito-Sama.... the one we've been talking about..... ._.

minamic
12-30-2002, 06:44 AM
I must admit, I'm not much of a yaoi/shounen ai fan... but...

*closes eyes and crosses fingers*

1. Kouryuu - Wish (*drool*)
2. Sesshomaru - Inuyasha (*drooolll*)
3. Yukito/Yue - CCS

Can Kouryuu be counted as androgynous? ^.^'

Nuriko: What about me? *pouts*
Minami: Okay...

4. Hotohori/Nuriko

Nuriko: #4???? ToT
Minami: Well, at least Hotohori's with you... ^^;

nekochan
12-30-2002, 06:50 AM
personally.. my favorite is Nuriko.. although i don't really like Nuriko, he.. she.. uhh.. nvm.. is so cool and flirty and pretty, making.. him.. irresistable. ^^

RoseDuelist
12-30-2002, 11:43 AM
Originally posted by Chas.Tsukishiro
::twitches at use of dub name:: Eheh, that'd be Yukito-Sama.... the one we've been talking about..... ._.

I used a Dub name? Sakura is her name in both versions of Cardcaptor Sakura. I didn't know her brothers name so that doesn't count...
Oww.. *hold head* me so confused..

sailor-moon
12-30-2002, 01:39 PM
Nuriko....................................yummies. ................:p

Chas
12-30-2002, 03:18 PM
Originally posted by RoseDuelist
I used a Dub name? Sakura is her name in both versions of Cardcaptor Sakura. I didn't know her brothers name so that doesn't count...
Oww.. *hold head* me so confused..


Kekekeke, nope nope! You called it Card Captors.... not that I seriously mind. ^^; I was half joking anyhow... I'll never get used to it being called Card Captors.... o.O

RoseDuelist
01-02-2003, 02:08 PM
Blah.. sorry about that. My boyfriend and I refer to it in both names and know what we mean. The shows are totally different (they cut out so damn much), but we know what we mean.

I have only seen the english version of most of the series and the japanese for the first few episodes that never got dubbed..

Hikaruchan
01-02-2003, 03:03 PM
Definitely Ashura from RG Veda. Despite what hardcore yaoi fans insist, Ashura is gender neutral. I actually call Ashura she when using a pronoun, as I see a bit more female tendencies. Even CLAMP put Ashura in both their female characters drawing and their male characters drawing.

Chef Xellos
01-02-2003, 04:53 PM
Anyway, Miki is one of my favs from Utena and then the friend of Sakura's brother in Card Captors. I forget his name.

Yeah. Touya's 'friend'. Hehe. ^^

I'd have to say Yukito as well. He's got a girlish voice, and in some of the manga pics he looks so unbelievably female. He's one of my faves... And Fish-Eye! Love Fish-Eye! One of my all-time favorite anime guys ever. So tragic.

officer_fujita
01-02-2003, 10:43 PM
Fujiwara no Sai from Hikaru no Go and Kurama from Yu yu Hakusho

sailor-moon
01-04-2003, 12:01 PM
nuriko!! yesh!!finally decided to take a pic in my nuriko wig^_____^

http://images.cosplay.com/showphoto.php?photo=17281&papass=&sort=1&thecat=500

RoseDuelist
01-05-2003, 12:34 AM
UKYO!! I forgot about her for some reason.. she counts... I hope..

Squall-chan
01-05-2003, 01:28 AM
Nuriko - Fushigi Yuugi
Nataku - X
Yue - Card Captor Sakura
Sesshomaru - Inuyasha

:D They're all so yummy.