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_Mandy_
03-26-2004, 01:28 PM
I was wondering what works best...liquid or powder concealer? Or a combination of both? And what brands are best?

HuongStar
03-26-2004, 02:47 PM
What are you looking to conceal and what is your skin type? I prefer creme formulations because:


It is versatile (works well for blemishes, undereyes, discoloration).
You can easily control the coverage.
It works well with combination skin but I wouldn't recommend it if you are really oily or really dry.
I use Mac Studio Finish but I also like Laura Mercier's Secret Camouflage. Ben Nye (http://www.wyb.com/bn_neut.htm) also makes some great concealers.

_Mandy_
03-26-2004, 03:28 PM
I have REALLY pale skin, so my face always looks...vain-ey? Like, you can see every vain. And if I get a pimple that's really noticeable. So, I was just looking for something to smooth out my complextion (I don't have really bad acne of anything like that though).

HuongStar
03-26-2004, 04:18 PM
I have REALLY pale skin, so my face always looks...vain-ey? Like, you can see every vain. And if I get a pimple that's really noticeable. So, I was just looking for something to smooth out my complexion (I don't have really bad acne of anything like that though).

Okay, so your is really translucent... hmm. All-over concealer would probably be a bit much as it's meant to be used sparingly where needed. I'd recommend something like Revlon SkinLights Instant Skin Brightener (http://www.revlon.com/product.asp?ProductID=6237&Mode=catalog). It's a sheer light-reflecting tint that will minimize imperfections without masking your face. If you end up liking the SkinLights, they also have a concealer (http://www.revlon.com/product.asp?ProductID=21355&Mode=catalog) (pen-dispensed liquid).

An alternative to Revlon is Neutrogena. I recommend the Healthy Defense Daily Moisturizer w/ SPF 30 (http://www.neutrogena.com/ProductsDetails.asp?ID=134). Because you are so fair skinned, sun protection is very important. :) The sheer tint will also help to make your skin look less transparent.

They also came out with an ingenious product called SkinClearing Trio (http://www.neutrogena.com/CosmeticsDetails.asp?ID=190), which contains an acne treatment, skin-clearing concealer, and a powder to control shine.

Both are available at your drugstore but if you prefer high-end, I can recommend alternatives.

Umi
03-26-2004, 06:51 PM
Other people are more knowledgeable about makeup in general. But I know that for me liquid concealer is better than solid (the stuff that comes in a lipstick-like tube). I use cheap, convenience store stuff ^__^ Maybelline EverFresh Concealear. I only end up using it on the dark circles I get under my eyes or if i have any blemishes.

To smooth out complexion and give myself an even skin tone I use pressed powder. It sounds like that might be what you're looking for.

archangeli
03-27-2004, 01:01 AM
I've never been a fan of foundation so for everyday, this is my ritual:

- MAC's Studio Finish Concealer SPF 10. It's a heavier cream-type in a pot. I love it because it really covers up my nasty undereye circles. Since it is yellow based, it also neutralizes any redness too.
- then i set the spots I've concealed with a pressed powder and dust some more on the rest of my face.

If you are pale and "vein-y" (i do know what you mean, lol) you can try using a medium coverage water-based foundation to even out your entire skintone while covering up the veins. There are many fabulous brands out there now, so just shop around for one that matches your skin color (and isn't sparkly! -_-' )

Nausicaa
03-29-2004, 12:40 AM
I too have very white Irish skin. I also have very flushed cheeks that are hard to cover up. But I would suggest using 1 application of self-tanner beforehand. It always helps even out my skin tone, give it a healthy glow, and get rid of the 'vein-y' look.

PsychoShinji
04-15-2004, 10:34 AM
how about concealing under-eye circles??? I stay up so late before and during cons, and my face looks very pale save for the dark purple under my eyes! I know that you mentioned the creme concealer, but will pale shades of it work better than shades the same as my skin?

archangeli
04-15-2004, 11:45 AM
how about concealing under-eye circles??? I stay up so late before and during cons, and my face looks very pale save for the dark purple under my eyes! I know that you mentioned the creme concealer, but will pale shades of it work better than shades the same as my skin?

No necessarily at all. If you put a paler shade of concealer on your face it will just look chalky. Your best bet is still to match your natural skin tone (i.e. the rest of your face.. .hehe)

One of the most awesome concealers I've found for undereye circles is the "Creamy Concealer Kit" by Bobbi Brown. It's a bit pricey, but you get the concealer and a matching powder to set it with (which can also double as a face powder). The concealer is a creamy, thicker consistency and you can apply it with your fingers or a brush - I use MAC #194 and it just blends seamlessly into my skin. Then set it with a light dusting of powder it looks like part of your skin! (remember to put some eye cream on first to moisturize or the concealer will sink into lines you didn't know you had...)

I've seen those "color correction" concealers in pink, green and blue and I've tried then and never been impressed. I know the principle behind them is logical but they always look chalky and un-natural. Stick with MAC's concealers in your skin tone (less pricey) or the Bobbi Brown one if you feel the urge to splurge.

Most places will be glad to help you if you go in and ask them - that's what they're there for after all :)

NOTE: the BB concealer is quite heavy. it's meant to moisturize the skin under the eyes. i don't suggest using it to cover up zits or anything.

PsychoShinji
04-15-2004, 01:40 PM
hey, thanks. ^_^ i'm printing your reply for future reference!

la_belle
04-15-2004, 05:23 PM
where exactly do you buy MAC, i cant find it anywhere >_<

archangeli
04-15-2004, 08:18 PM
www.maccosmetics.com (Canadian prices) and
www.gloss.com (American prices)

I know that M.A.C. has actual stores here in Canada, and counters in a few major dept. stores. If you don't have any luck finding the stores, you can always try their site. Still, it's best to actually try colors on before you buy them ^__^

Clueless Case
04-15-2004, 08:29 PM
Mac is a strong makeup brand , but it damages your skin after numerous uses...like have you ever seena celebrity without makeup AGH!!!!!

archangeli
04-15-2004, 10:49 PM
Mac is a strong makeup brand , but it damages your skin after numerous uses...like have you ever seena celebrity without makeup AGH!!!!!

right... that's the silliest thing I've heard in a while... -_-'

Skin damage is NOT caused by makeup. if you have wrinkles or spots it's because of SUN EXPOSURE - so wear sunscreen.

MAC, like any makeup brand, is tested for daily use. It is non-toxic or else it wouldn't be allowed to be sold. Some of their products (like their pigments) are meant for fashion/ runway use and are more dramatic, in which case you use a proper makeup remover to take it off afterwards.

People who work on Broadway or in theater know that stage makeup is the thickest stuff known to man, but it comes right off with a proper makeup remover.

AND - the paparazzi are always following the celebs looking for the WORST possible pictures of them, in order to sell their tabloids. if someone followed you around 24/7 snapping pictures, i'm sure there would be some where you didn't look so hot either...

bipolarbunny
04-16-2004, 12:57 AM
a nice cheat i found to hide under eye circles is to put a bit of peachy redish eyeshadow over the circles, not shimmery of course, and dust it over the blue areas and then cover with foundation/concealer and go about with the rest of your makeup. it worked really well for me ^.^

China-Lilly
04-19-2004, 06:17 PM
For under eyes, a creamier concealer will work better - whereas on blemishes, a drier type concealer is better. Many companies make different types of concealers for these two purposes - eg Laura Mercier has Secret Camouflage for face, and Secret Concealer for under eyes.

The skin under the eyes is delicate, so a creamier concealer will prevent the area going cakey and creased. To neutralise the blueness in undereye circles, a concealer with a yellow or peach tone will work best. I use Cle de Peau concealer, which is a stick, it's pricey at US$65 a tube, but the best I've used. I use Jane Iredale concealer brush, but a taklon painbrush from an art store will work just as well if it has a tapered flat tip. For a yellow or peach one, try MAC. Another good product to try is YSL Touche Eclat, which is a highlighter type product, but it really helps reduce the look of dark circles without any heavy product feeling. Revlon makes a copy of the YSL one, mentioned in a post above, but it's not the same.

For blemishes, a drier concealer works better because you want it to stay put and not move. Dot on with a concealer brush and blend. Then powder. Laura Mercier's Secret Camouflage is good for this. I learnt off a pro MUA that you can swipe a damp sponge over the secret camouflage and apply lightly to skin for slightly more coverage.

archangeli
04-19-2004, 08:32 PM
Laura Mercier's Secret Camouflage is good for this. I learnt off a pro MUA that you can swipe a damp sponge over the secret camouflage and apply lightly to skin for slightly more coverage.
I agree with all of China-Lilly's technique and product recommendations, except for the Laura Mercier ones. I tried both of her concealer products and was not impressed at all. It made be break out with little red bumps where I had used the product. My bad luck I guess? :p

evanae
04-19-2004, 09:53 PM
la_belle ~> do u live in new york? there HAS to be a m.a.c. store in new york! it's new york, doesn't it have almost everything? lol. but yeah...there are or should be m.a.c. stores around cuz there's one rite here in the mall i usually go to and i'm in cali. i hope u find one cuz ordering online can be annoying thanks to s&h charges. -_-;

la_belle
04-19-2004, 10:00 PM
yea i live in ny, i did the store search thing and theres a counter at macys herald square..guess ill go there *shrugs* :P

btw..the website (US) archangeli gave me..the price for mac studio finish was about 13..and on makeup alley they mention about 20..which one is it? wouldnt wanna get ripped :\

Machiko
04-19-2004, 10:10 PM
(archangeli here... to lazy to log into my own account... )

MAC is originally based in Canada so many of the prices you see may be in Canadian dollars. If you are in the US, you should use the prices on gloss.com as your guide. From what I've heard the prices for MAC's stuff varies ridiculously around the world :schitzo:

la_belle
04-19-2004, 10:14 PM
i did use gloss :P i tried checking the oz thing but they didnt have it