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DeadLegato
05-17-2004, 04:58 PM
I'm probably going to get flammed by the people who were doing this, but... *sighs* I was getting REALLY tired of all the people begging for hugs.

While I know that's a personal preference, I didn't particularily mind the ones that just happened to have a "hug me" sign. It's the ones that were screaming "HUG ME!" loudly at people or directly getting in their paths and demanding to be hugged that were really irritating me.

NO MEANS NO MEANS NO MEANS NO. If I don't want to hug you, don't hug me anyway or pout at me. Just because someone is in a costume or is in a costume of your favorite character doesn't give you permission to touch.

When I was dressed as Akabane from Get Backers, I was being "in character" and... Akabane doesn't really hug, from what I've seen of the show and the manga. In fact, he doesn't really even touch anyone and no one touchs him... Also, I have issues with personal space, and I don't really even like when someone is standing really close to me, let alone someone I don't know trying to hug me...

And when I was in my Animatrix costume, the armor could be easily badly bent out of shape, and I actually had two of the chain-link armor pieces pulled off by people trying to grab me while I was in that costume. One of the Sesshomaru (I can't spell) cosplayers I talked to actually had part of their costume broken by someone hugging them without asking...

I actually think if people are going to be so obnoxious about asking for hugs, signs asking for hugs should be banned at next year's Anime Central. They did ban signs asking for money in return for things. If you guys WANT the privelledge to carry around signs asking for hugs, you have to behave like RESPONSIBLE individuals while you're doing it.

I mean, how would you feel if you knew you'd run up and hugged someone who had issues with having been abused and you set off mental issues for them? (many people who have been abused have problems with being touched by strangers).

EinNigma
05-17-2004, 05:03 PM
I agree, a lot of the signs were annoying, but I don't know if they should be banned. I just think people ought to tone things down. I do have to admit I was quite flattered when some girl walked up and asked for a kiss, which I (unwisely?) declined.

The spin-off signs were funny though. My cosplay group even started wearing some around on Sunday. It would have been funnier on Saturday, but we still got major props for them.

"All your sign are belong to us"

Black_Knight
05-17-2004, 05:06 PM
Were you the one who tried to kick me in the groin?


But Hugs are one of the other bricks of the Otaku foundation...

ParnsAngel
05-17-2004, 05:08 PM
I enjoy the ones that say "pocky for hugs," cause then I get pocky out of it. *lol*
But the guys with the "kiss me, I have low self-esteem" signs were...interesting...I had one come up to me, stand there pointedly, and when I shook my head no, he turned it around and it said "please?" which was cute, but dude, no! XD

I really enjoyed the little sign cult that sprung up with things like...well now I totally forgot what their signs said, but that was awesome XD

ZiggyB
05-17-2004, 05:22 PM
I found many of the signs very annoying. If however, there is someone that is very aggressive, or won't take no for an answer, please please please report them to con security. They won't stop until someone in authority stops them or ejects them from the con.

Sakon
05-17-2004, 05:22 PM
Ah... I think I very much did not enjoy those people. The one time I said okay (first and last) the little jerk buried his face in my breasts and then ran. (he was in red wearing a red helmet) And then later (not hugging, but in the same gettin' ones jollies vein) a guy tried to take a photo of me and my friend when she rested her head on my shoulder. He didn't ask. He just tried to sneak a photo op. I elbowed her awake and he very audibly swore because he missed a good 'yuri' pic.

There are friendly hugs (with people I know or know through someone else) but there are two many people running around doing more than they are permitted. Hug does not mean they should try and shove their tongue down someones throat (happened to guy I know at Acen this year...)

AllStarAlice
05-17-2004, 05:25 PM
Some people were just out of control. People asked to hug me several times, I had to keep telling them BE CAREFUL because my costumes were really delicate, especially my Warrior Yuna.

The signs to me were just ghey. Not even one of them was amusing to me...They all pretty much said the same things.

And Sakon, your signature is freaking awesome. ^____^

Dany
05-17-2004, 05:34 PM
Ah... I think I very much did not enjoy those people. The one time I said okay (first and last) the little jerk buried his face in my breasts and then ran. (he was in red wearing a red helmet)

This would have merited a variety of responses out of me.. all of them highly painful, and at least a few that would prevent the individual from breeding.

Black_Knight
05-17-2004, 05:36 PM
Ah... I think I very much did not enjoy those people. The one time I said okay (first and last) the little jerk buried his face in my breasts and then ran. (he was in red wearing a red helmet)


Hmm... Red, and Red Helmet, that was most likely the Veiwitful Joe cos-player... I talked with him, he didn't seem like a bad person...


But there are a lot of good huggers out there, so don't let one bad apple ruin your bag

Besides we're talking about Otaku here, buring his face in your breasts is the closest he'll ever get to the real thing that doesn't involve him giving his credit card number...

Heidi
05-17-2004, 05:41 PM
The signs did get kind of annoying...there was even one guy with a sign that said "screw hugs, I want sex". :hafha: A bit tasteless, if you ask me.

Souichiro
05-17-2004, 05:42 PM
I thought the signs got a bit goofy after a while. My trick to dealing with the most obnoxious kiss me/hug me people is the same I use on mall survey people: 'la la, I can't see you...'

effembee
05-17-2004, 05:44 PM
Ah... I think I very much did not enjoy those people. The one time I said okay (first and last) the little jerk buried his face in my breasts and then ran. (he was in red wearing a red helmet) And then later (not hugging, but in the same gettin' ones jollies vein) a guy tried to take a photo of me and my friend when she rested her head on my shoulder. He didn't ask. He just tried to sneak a photo op. I elbowed her awake and he very audibly swore because he missed a good 'yuri' pic.

There are friendly hugs (with people I know or know through someone else) but there are two many people running around doing more than they are permitted. Hug does not mean they should try and shove their tongue down someones throat (happened to guy I know at Acen this year...)
That's awful. Seriously, taking pictures without asking? I mean...unless it's like...fansview for the masquerade, or something, but...that's really evil. I can understand where you're coming from. If I were you, I'd be really pissed off as well.

I didn't mind any of the signs, some of them were funny. I didn't come across any...'aggressive' glompers.

Who did you cosplay as?

effembee
05-17-2004, 05:46 PM
The signs did get kind of annoying...there was even one guy with a sign that said "screw hugs, I want sex". :hafha: A bit tasteless, if you ask me.
I saw that! I was in the con suite at the time. My friend thought it was funny, though. I was just kind of like... "right..." :rolleyes:

HyperrrMouse
05-17-2004, 05:47 PM
Yah, it was WAY out of hand. One of my friends got groped, and was about to haul off and slug the jerk when she noticed cops standing around. They hadn't stopped him 'cause they hadn't seen it, but they would have likely ticketed her.

The signs were stupid, and those bearing them were annoying. I do not mind giving out hugs, but if i say no, i expect to be listened to. I am not desperate for affection, i don't like people assuming i am, and i don't want my hardwork ruined by careless individuals. those that i agreed to hug were polite, nice, and great, i really don't mind hugs, but those signs were bloody annoying.

I was annoyed at the amount of "stupid" drinkers also. One individual kept harassing a friend of mine, in sexually explicit ways. and then proceeded to follow my boyfriend around threatening him since my boyfriend had told the guy to back off. They sent at least 3 people at least to the hospital for alcohol poisoning Friday night, and that's ridiculous. I know everyone is supposed to be having fun, but when people start harassing others and pickign fights, and needing to be hospitalized, that's too much drinking. Sorry, to be off topic, but the sign annoyed me, and i felt this lead into it a bit.

effembee
05-17-2004, 05:49 PM
Yah, it was WAY out of hand. One of my friends got groped, and was about to haul off and slug the jerk when she noticed cops standing around. They hadn't stopped him 'cause they hadn't seen it, but they would have likely ticketed her.

The signs were stupid, and those bearing them were annoying. I do not mind giving out hugs, but if i say no, i expect to be listened to. I am not desperate for affection, i don't like people assuming i am, and i don't want my hardwork ruined by careless individuals. those that i agreed to hug were polite, nice, and great, i really don't mind hugs, but those signs were bloody annoying.

I was annoyed at the amount of "stupid" drinkers also. One individual kept harassing a friend of mine, in sexually explicit ways. and then proceeded to follow my boyfriend around threatening him since my boyfriend had told the guy to back off. They sent at least 3 people at least to the hospital for alcohol poisoning Friday night, and that's ridiculous. I know everyone is supposed to be having fun, but when people start harassing others and pickign fights, and needing to be hospitalized, that's too much drinking. Sorry, to be off topic, but the sign annoyed me, and i felt this lead into it a bit.
Yep, I agree. It seems as though this year was a lot more...scary. O.o

chiichan
05-17-2004, 05:50 PM
i agree about the signs, but i found it flattering when girls ran up to me and asked for a hug just cause i was a good haku... and when guys ran up and did the same...

Silver_Maiden
05-17-2004, 05:58 PM
Unfortunately, one of my "friends" was one of those people with signs. Not only was she out of line, but she was asking people to kiss eachother and crap. It seriously pissed me off. *and* she ruined my hair that took over an hour to do. (side note: I cosplayed one of the Tohmas walking around) So, my hair was flat not even half way though the convention on Saturday. I'm still steamed over that. It's *hard* as hell to get your hair styled like an anime character, and it's hard to get a costume that looks good and it's hard to act in character when people are glomping you and acting like complete morons. I didn't mind a hug for a picture or something, but I got glomped from behind *way* too many times. (Now my buttons are lose, my Kumagorou has a big hole in his neck from people trying to pry him out of mine and my Ryuichi's hands and the velcro on my hat is so out of whack it won't sit on my head right... and I know Ryu and I were fighting over Kuma, but we didn't tug on him until you heard *RIIIIIIIIP*) Not just by my friends, but by those sign people. So, kudos to anyone who had to deal with that, And I apologize for any of the morons you had to meet.

Although~ quite possibly the best sign there was the "Vash Bait". That was a tastefully done sign.

Andrea
05-17-2004, 06:11 PM
I didn't really notice any more signs or huggers than usual, but that may have been because 1. I was cosplaying slightly obscure (or very obscure depending on the day) characters, 2. I have been told that I'm remarkably intimidating despite my shortness and give off strong "don't talk to me or touch me" vibes, and 3. I was cosplaying Ban and Emishi most of the weekend, and therefore wearing their glasses instead of my prescription ones.

One person did ask to pet my hair when I was wearing my Ban wig, but that was okay because they asked, and they weren't actually touching me.

*waves at DeadLegato* Speaking of things that are out of character for the (not-so-)good Doctor Jackal, very late Saturday we got a picture of Akabane dancing with MakubeX. :D But I found that doubly hilarious because of the GB RPG I'm in... *cough*

R1KKu
05-17-2004, 06:19 PM
I think the whole hug sign thing was so last year, and Im glad I didnt see many. My only gripe was that I had this 1 guy come up to me asking for a hug while I was in my samurai costume, and I politely said "yes", then he came up to me a different day when I was in a more delicate costume asking for another hug, and I completely refused all hugs. Not to mention that I had my bf right next to me most of the time, and Im sure he didnt approve.

Another thing, I dont mind people giving out pocky for no reason, but the "Hugs for Pocky" and the "Kisses for Pocky" are just lame. Sure Im ok with giving out some hugs, but who wants to do that to smell fanboys and girls .EEW.

What I thought was adorable though, I was wearing my Berserker costume, and I had some older lady come up to me and start petting me while meowing and purring. XD

Oh and my friend had a problem with a congoer, and had to take it security. There are some really crazy people out there.

Stripper Vash
05-17-2004, 06:30 PM
there was a vash cosplayer that viciously hugged me everytime he got within a 5 foot radius of me, and i dont know why. all i know is it got annoying REAL fast. and i mean, he did it like 10+ times.

RikkuX
05-17-2004, 06:31 PM
gahh! I had like a hugging stalker boy...despite costume changes he kept finding me!

Dany
05-17-2004, 06:35 PM
Hmm... I now have sign ideas.

"Glomp me and spikes will come out of my hide."

"I am a villian. I am neither cuddly nor huggable."

"My corset is all the pressure I need around my ribcage."

"Will give Pocky to people who keep their hands to themselves."

"The floor hurts. Don't make me land on it."

"You break this costume, you buy this costume."

ChibiRydia
05-17-2004, 06:41 PM
I only got hugged once. Backstage before going on for the masquerade.

xerocalibur
05-17-2004, 07:18 PM
I got so frustrated and annoyed with all the signs that on Saturday, just before I got in line for the Masq, I made a sign that said, and I quote:

"I'll stop holding my sign... if you do, too."

I got the following responses: Laughter from those who "got" it... Criticisms along the lines of "But I'm not holding a sign!"... and then my favorite, the odd look. ^_^

I was wearing my long sleeved homemade Pink Spider shirt at that time, so yeah -- some may have seen me. I know there's one person who took a picture of me with my sign in the masq hall/ballroom before the masq actually started... ^_^ They thought it rocked, by the by.

Oh, yeah, I expect to be flamed by those sign holders too... but whateva. They *were* out of control.

However, I did actually do like... two of them. One was "Glomp me! Donations welcome, feed the hungry" and that was like... late Friday Night. she was the first sign girl I'd seen, so I hugged her politely and gave her a dollar. Another girl I saw in the aCen cafe had on an angel costume (with wings) and had a sign that said "Hug me for a dollar", and I sat down and politely talked to her about the whole sign thing... and mind you, her sign wasn't just a paper one, it was a flag -- dowel rod with a foam core sign attached at the top... Apparently she'd been having a sign with her for four previous years now and she also found all the signs this year to be aggravating... So in the end i hugged her and gave her a dollar. Gently, mind you, because I knew she had wings on... *shrugs* Now I expect to be criticized for giving money for hugs, but whatever -- I'm generous with money most of the time, and I had a few spare singles floating in my wallet -- not that big a deal.

kylash327
05-17-2004, 07:49 PM
I think the mentallity of the affectionate fan hugging as being expected and ok with everyone really needs to change... not everyone is fine with someone running up and grabbing them or following them around etc... I had several people randomly come up and take a picture as expected, and then proceed to tell me their entire life story... as if I am curious what you ate for breakfast lunch and dinner and how it went down... i think there are just too many socially inept people there, but not much youc an do about that =\

YU-Yu_Ri_Pa-NA
05-17-2004, 07:49 PM
gahh! I had like a hugging stalker boy...despite costume changes he kept finding me!

I saw you with all your costume changes bwahaha..the craziest one was with that car..was that even a costume? *-x But I wasn't stalking you! x.x

I had a sign, I admit it..I had a 'I'm A Pimpette-HUG ME' sign..I also put need food (wasted all the $$ in the dealer's room - -') and lotsa people gave me food..and several people hugged me and spinned me around in circles..it was el fun-o.

Also, on Satuday, I had a 'Will Hug For Pocky or $$' by the dealer's room (the little corner by the escalator) and this Kakashi cosplayer gave me a dollar and he ran before I could hug him..but then I found him later on and gave him a hug..and this one guy gave us like $30 dollars!! I FELT SO BAD!! But then ACen staff told me I couldn't have the money part, and I changed it and continued to walk around with the new sign..

But that one sign corner over by the hallway to all the ballrooms..that was crazeh..

Mokona Plushie
05-17-2004, 08:52 PM
I saw you with all your costume changes bwahaha..the craziest one was with that car..was that even a costume? *-x But I wasn't stalking you! x.x

I had a sign, I admit it..I had a 'I'm A Pimpette-HUG ME' sign..I also put need food (wasted all the $$ in the dealer's room - -') and lotsa people gave me food..and several people hugged me and spinned me around in circles..it was el fun-o.

Also, on Satuday, I had a 'Will Hug For Pocky or $$' by the dealer's room (the little corner by the escalator) and this Kakashi cosplayer gave me a dollar and he ran before I could hug him..but then I found him later on and gave him a hug..and this one guy gave us like $30 dollars!! I FELT SO BAD!! But then ACen staff told me I couldn't have the money part, and I changed it and continued to walk around with the new sign..

But that one sign corner over by the hallway to all the ballrooms..that was crazeh..

It was pretty insane, I was hitting Vicki with my braid half the time to stop hugging people ==; Half the time I was too shy to ask people for hugs so if my friends did and the people agreed and didn't mind then I would politely ask for a hug too...

I didn't enjoy when people just came up to you and gave you a hug or something; it happened to me a couple times and both times, the people were larger than me so I kinda fell over and tripped over my braid. Then on Saturday, I started to cry since I was becoming aggravated with one of my friends and I couldn't take it...some guy came up and asked for a hug when I was crying! I didn't have a sign that was really big or anything, I had a sign that said I would sing or dance for hugs, I thought it made sense since I was a songstress...

But the man that gave us money, we all felt really guilty and my other friend and I tried to find him again but couldn't...

BlitzballMstr
05-17-2004, 09:00 PM
I saw you with all your costume changes bwahaha..the craziest one was with that car..was that even a costume? *-x But I wasn't stalking you! x.x

I had a sign, I admit it..I had a 'I'm A Pimpette-HUG ME' sign..I also put need food (wasted all the $$ in the dealer's room - -') and lotsa people gave me food..and several people hugged me and spinned me around in circles..it was el fun-o.

Also, on Satuday, I had a 'Will Hug For Pocky or $$' by the dealer's room (the little corner by the escalator) and this Kakashi cosplayer gave me a dollar and he ran before I could hug him..but then I found him later on and gave him a hug..and this one guy gave us like $30 dollars!! I FELT SO BAD!! But then ACen staff told me I couldn't have the money part, and I changed it and continued to walk around with the new sign..

But that one sign corner over by the hallway to all the ballrooms..that was crazeh..

I remember you! I probally was the only person taking pictures of people with signs not sure if your remember me though you might . I'm not sure if I was in my Saito stufff or not ....maybe my random catboy stuff, but I do have a picture of you with your sign ^^ You had one of the cuter signs I saw that weekend...I saw some that weren't very nice...something about someone willing to do certain things for pocky and money makes some people seem so.....well desperate lol

YU-Yu_Ri_Pa-NA
05-17-2004, 09:08 PM
I remember you! I probally was the only person taking pictures of people with signs not sure if your remember me though you might . I'm not sure if I was in my Saito stufff or not ....maybe my random catboy stuff, but I do have a picture of you with your sign ^^ You had one of the cuter signs I saw that weekend...I saw some that weren't very nice...something about someone willing to do certain things for pocky and money makes some people seem so.....well desperate lol


Awww thank you! -huggles- Someone that has a picture yay!..I might remember you, just lemme look at your photo gallery..

edit- gomen nasai, I don't remember you..maybe if you had better pictures? but it's my fault, dun worry - -

BlitzballMstr
05-17-2004, 09:19 PM
Awww thank you! -huggles- Someone that has a picture yay!..I might remember you, just lemme look at your photo gallery..

edit- gomen nasai, I don't remember you..maybe if you had better pictures? but it's my fault, dun worry - -

lol don't worry I still need to post my pictures from the Con. I have better ones of me in costume and out lol....stupid history final :schitzo: ....when I finish with it I'll post them later tonight ^^ I was just using that as a place to store my whole...um two pictures lol

Mokona Plushie
05-17-2004, 09:23 PM
Wait...where did you take the picture of her sign? Because did you happen to see my sign that said "I founded the box club!" or something along those lines...

Maryssa
05-17-2004, 09:25 PM
Does anyone know if all the people who had signs that said "$1 for a kiss" or "$1 for whatever" got kicked out of the damn hotel? Thats panhandling and these complete retards should know thats not allowed. No I am not giving you my goddamn money so you can be disgusting on me or anyone else. Besides, I dont kiss chicks, and this fugly girl came up to me 93875384 times asking 'pretty lady want a kiss?' GAHH. I want to walk around with a lighter next time and jsut set all the damn signs on fire. Its like ONE person does it beacuse they are a loser and are craving the wrong kind of attention and then all the other losers decide HEY THATS COOL I WILL DO IT TOO and before long we had a whole damn lobby full of PATHETIC sign-holding scum. Augh i need to stop here because I will carry on all day about this. People seriously need a life.

Jun_Kazama
05-17-2004, 09:29 PM
I guess I lucked out..maybe it was b/c my costumes were all random and obscure and nobody knew who i was ^_^"

I really don't see the point in hug me signs at all. And I agree..some of them were just plain tasteless and inappropriate (there were kids there dammit).
Oddly enough I did have a really creepy guy following me around trying to touch me and stuff, but that at mitsuwa after the con. >_>"

I'm slightly tempted to make a sign for my next con that says: " Hug me and I'll kick your ass".

sugarxspice
05-17-2004, 09:30 PM
*dies laughing* I love you Maryssa! You are right on the mark..

Strawberry
05-17-2004, 09:32 PM
I didn't really mind the hugging. There was a group of girls on Sunday, one of them being a really cutey catgirl, who were really like "We love hugs!" and I didn't mind that. Maybe I'm too nice, but most of the time, I don't think it's so bad. But yeah, if you say no and they persist, that's annoying. ^ ^

Kale1083
05-17-2004, 09:40 PM
I can understand, my friend was some one doing that and I found it annoying, and the sign were just kinda old.

NeonRainDrop
05-17-2004, 09:50 PM
Around 2:00AM Sunday, one of the ACEN staff stopped me, carrying my "Hug me, I'm Asian" sign. He told me that signs were not allowed and told me to throw it out.

I was wondering if they're imposing a ban next year...

I only got 2 hugs too...

By the way, I was the Asian kid wearing the Digi Charat hat, a gray fleece sweater, and Naruto ninja gloves. Later on, I bought a pair of goggles and wore those on top of my Digi Charat hat. If any of you know who I am, holler!!!! I took lots of pictures and hung out a lot with Junpei from Megatokyo and the lobby musical group.

BlitzballMstr
05-17-2004, 09:54 PM
Wait...where did you take the picture of her sign? Because did you happen to see my sign that said "I founded the box club!" or something along those lines...

hmmmm {time out} lol okay sec -scans pictures real quick- not off the bat I don't see anyone with a picture/sign like that....once I send my pictures through my photo program though it'll make all the signs more readable.
I did however see you walking around in costume....unfortunatley I didnt get a picture...I wish I would have had more time to take more pictures ><....If your are going to Reactor I promise to get your picture there ^^ :jjacks:


Random Thought......How can glory be found in the death of a samurai and why must I type a 15 page paper about it ><

DJ Dragonboat
05-17-2004, 09:55 PM
my personal favourite was "hug me, i have no dignity"

I enjoy the ones that say "pocky for hugs," cause then I get pocky out of it. *lol*
But the guys with the "kiss me, I have low self-esteem" signs were...interesting...I had one come up to me, stand there pointedly, and when I shook my head no, he turned it around and it said "please?" which was cute, but dude, no! XD

I really enjoyed the little sign cult that sprung up with things like...well now I totally forgot what their signs said, but that was awesome XD

YU-Yu_Ri_Pa-NA
05-17-2004, 09:56 PM
Around 2:00AM Sunday, one of the ACEN staff stopped me, carrying my "Hug me, I'm Asian" sign. He told me that signs were not allowed and told me to throw it out.

I was wondering if they're imposing a ban next year...

I only got 2 hugs too...


Aww I got like 6 billion hugs..and I got like 10 'picked up and spinned around' hugs too ^-^

If you go to Anime Reactor I'll hugs you a billion times! ^-^

Maryssa
05-17-2004, 10:01 PM
I just dont understand why you would want multiple smelly sweaty dirty strangers hugging you all day... I suppose it's just me though. I enjoy my own personal space and don't really like when people try to invade it.

Jgo Factor
05-17-2004, 10:17 PM
Everytime I walked by and saw a bunch of sign holders, I kept thinking, maybe someone should hold a sign convention of some sort. C'mon, Sign Con 2005, coming soon. Hahaha

YU-Yu_Ri_Pa-NA
05-17-2004, 10:19 PM
Everytime I walked by and saw a bunch of sign holders, I kept thinking, maybe someone should hold a sign convention of some sort. C'mon, Sign Con 2005, coming soon. Hahaha

THAT WOULD BE SO COOL!! XD great idea, great idea..

Jimmoman
05-17-2004, 10:24 PM
This was my first year at ACen, and I kind of assumed the signs and hugs were a normal thing, and I didn't mind untill the desperate people started the violent glomping. I was the Megaman walking around, and I put a lot of work into the costume, and by about 11:00 Friday night, my plastic shoe covers had died. Literally, they had busted at the side seams and ripped off from constant glomps where people kept stepping on my shoes to put their arms around my neck.
I was more than happy to give hugs out to the people who kindly said, "Megaman, You're my childhood hero, could I please have a hug, (and or a picture with you)?" but there were some who were just over-obsessive. There was one kid who was following me around telling me he "loved me, like really man" and constantly hugging.
Then there was an Aries cosplayer who was absolutely unruly and downright RUDE to my friend in Sephiroth Costume. (The one-winged angel one)
She kept glomping him, dragging him around, trying to kiss him, grabbing his junk, and she tried taking his masamune. When Sunday rolled around, we were trying to finish up an ACen Guys photoshoot, and she got a vice-grip on his sword, and would NOT let go, claiming, he killed her with it, so it's hers, etc..

Overall, too many stupid "will give pockey for yaoi screwing" and too many violent huggers my first year. Next year I know to make my costumes more glomp-resistant, and bring a cattle-prod to keep unruly people off.

Voltz
05-17-2004, 10:24 PM
Yes, I do agree some of the sings were overdone. People came up to me and asked for many things beyond hugs. I said no, because I don't know these people. Random hugs were annoying because I had a big sword (Zabuza's) and it through me off balance. I was tired from carrying it around and walking, the last thing I wanted was some one to jump on me. A gracious person knows how to ask correctly, and I will never refuse some one who asks nice. If they have the ablity to ask nicly then they deserve a hug. I had many "fan girls" following me, but they were all nice. I think that they should tone it down with the people who demand a hug, or scream it, or something obscene. Those are just annoying, but like I said the polite ones are great. Also if the kid that played Viewitful Joe well I know him. He goes to my school, I doubt it was him. But if you find out for sure, I'll make sure he doesn't do such again. Such is demeaning to ones character, and morally wrong I believe. So reprecusions must be in order, but if its not him, I'll just tell him to leave me a lone either way, because even at school he gets on my nerves. ^^ Also wonderful con!!!

YU-Yu_Ri_Pa-NA
05-17-2004, 10:31 PM
I had many "fan girls" following me, but they were all nice.

That wasn't me..-cough-

But you followed me on Sunday! So bwahaha!

Same with Jimmoman, I though signs were the norm..And that Sephiroth was SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NICE!!! He was sooo kind and he bowed to me and he let me hug him like 5 times so nice so nice!! Tell him thank you very much for making my ACen wonderful!

DeadLegato
05-17-2004, 10:34 PM
Yeah, signs asking for money weren't allowed, and it's the people who are being jerks with the signs that are going to get signs completely banned from the con for people who ARE being responsible. I wouldn't be surprised if the signs are banned next year because of security getting complaints about the mugger-style huggers.

*Waves back to the Emishi/Ban cosplayer*

Voltz
05-17-2004, 10:35 PM
I didn't follow you on Sunday @_@, I walked around all sunday and I saw you once in the ACen cafe when your friend asked for my e-mail, perhaps it was coincedence. I don't stalk, it aint gonna happen.

YU-Yu_Ri_Pa-NA
05-17-2004, 10:38 PM
I didn't follow you on Sunday @_@, I walked around all sunday and I saw you once in the ACen cafe when your friend asked for my e-mail, perhaps it was coincedence. I don't stalk, it aint gonna happen.

Not true, I saw you sitting by the fountain when I was at the Artist's Alley ^-^

I really hope they don't ban signs next year.. i guess I abused the privleges cuz I asked for money for hugs on one of my signs and I didn't know better, but this was early Satuday (before people started to get too crazy with the signs)..if this contributes to sign bannage, I'm really sorry ;-;

BlitzballMstr
05-17-2004, 10:45 PM
Personally I do not have a trouble giving someone a hug or even asking someone for a hug. What I think made it seem bad was the fact people had signs that were like "Will have sex for a hug" or "Hug me because I have no self esteem" those type of signs just make the other people look bad. I dont blame people who don't like people invading their personal space or have someone wanting to give them like 50 hugs being mad. I wouldnt come up to someone and keep perstering them for hugs or if they were like no sorry I just don't like that I would unerstand okay this person doesnt want a hug case closed.

I think next year I am going to bring my video camera and videotape all the hugs I can and set it to the Dave Mathews music were the guy goes around hugging everyone :bigtu:

The-Real-Link
05-17-2004, 10:47 PM
I was just going around and having a good time, and like others, felt that weird signs are just part of the con scene, so maybe I didn't see it as being a problem. I did get a lot of requests for hugs but figured it was merely because of my cosplay (well and that it was my first time doing such), but then again all the girls were nice and polite about the request. I don't blame anyone for not liking other signs that ask for money, sex etc though. Those may be funny and amusing to read but are not needed at a convention.

Voltz
05-17-2004, 10:48 PM
Nah uh, If I stalk then I'd be a "fan boy" and if I'm that, then it's all over. Cause yuck, they are simply stupid and they smell! I get stalked, I don't do the stalking mainly cause I'm lazy so psssh again =P

Voltz
05-17-2004, 10:53 PM
Wow...see I just read the post above mine (it wasnt there when I posted) and see those stupid "fan boy" perverts! That's wrong...they need to get a girlfriend or something besides getting pictures of girls at cons. I mean come one...how pathetic, I aplogize for their rude behavior. Hope such foolish actions didn't ruin the whole con for you, I'd take them down too if I saw such inmoral behavior. Punk kids. Thats why i don't stalk, or wear stupid signs. *some signs were good, some perhaps most bad* People need to understand boundries.

CapsuleCorp
05-17-2004, 11:10 PM
I'm just waiting for the day when cosplayers stop being tactful and actually start doing physical violence to their glomper-stalkers and nasty fanboys/girls. Or getting nasty. Or reporting them to ConSec for crying out loud!

Fortunately, I had no personal problems...and everyone who wanted to hug Yugi or Hiei asked nicely. It's SO hard being Hiei then - if I was in character I'd have to say no, but who could say no to a nice person wanting a hug because they love Hiei? :)

But the sign thing? Er, yeah. It needs to go away now. I'm reading on the ACen forums about the confiscating and a past rule they had in the rulebook that wasn't there this year. I think it needs to come back. There should be explicit directions that people are not allowed to harrass fellow congoers or panhandle, so that when they get in trouble with security, there is a hard, fast rule to point to so they know why. Signs, in my (extremely aged) opinion, are SO passe. But perhaps I've been in the real world too long and have had my high-school-age spirit crushed and stomped to death.

(btw Jimmoman, you and your sexeh Sephiroth pal were VERY cool. Great costumes both of you!)

Stripper Vash
05-17-2004, 11:13 PM
I understand a fan girl now and then asking for a hug. that im totally cool with and pretty much expect.... its the people who attack you without warning that get me. My metla piece on my vash suit came off 5 times at this con, thank god i brought a hot glue gun for an emergency. Also, guys, im no homophobe by any stretch of the imaginiation, but come on, im standing there with my girlfriend, dont come up and ask for yaoi poses (and girls, you know who you are). Not everyone has a yaoi/yuri fixation.

I've heard several complaints as well about the "aggressive hugger, stalker, bendy-backwards, creepy Vash" (sorry, he was mentioned by several names). I had a heard time with him. I was almost to the point of asking him if he had a foot fetish. Why? Because i wanted to know if he would enjoy my boot in his mouth....... I'm a pretty patient guy by nature, but DAMN!! Also, his little comments every 10 minutes got to me FAST! Examples: During the vash photo shoot he said he should be in front he bacuse he was "the hottest one there and the one the ladies came to see". After the Masquerade while i was having my picture taken, he walked over and began saying, and i swear to god he said this, "Mine's Bigger!!" Everytime there was a camera around he jumped on me and hugged and even tried a kiss on the check, it just got WAY out of control WAY fast

But like i said, if its few and far between, one gentle hug now and then wont kill me........

RoMayDrako
05-17-2004, 11:35 PM
I was with a Troppy, her freind Selphie (forgive me forgot her name), and the Seifer (so sorry forgot your name to) And my ex roomate (censored language here) Came and glomped him REALLY had. wrapped both her legs around him, and you could tell his back was giving out. I had to literally tear her off of him. And be it I was sick, and she knows how violent I get when I'm sick she RAN. Oh yeah, to Troppy and everyone else, sorry didn't hook up with you again got sick.

I was gonna wear a Hug-Pokey-Sanity? sign but I fear anyone hugging me cause I got sensitive kidneys. To hard of a hug would send me to the ER. But yeah gave out as many hugs to the 'friendly' looking people. And yeah some poeple are pushing the lines/

To Seifer, I SO HOPE your back is feeling better. You'd know her with fuzzy horns curlish hair, runs and jumps on men and kisses them. She should be banned from all cons.

But yeah no one hears what I say so I'm going to shut up.

CapsuleCorp
05-17-2004, 11:42 PM
I did witness a mega-glomp like that...some friends and I were scrambling for our cameras to get pictures of the Yuki and Hatsuharu who had just come by when some chick came screaming out of nowhere and leaped onto Yuki, locking her legs around him. We were all "um...okay..." and the poor guy! I felt so bad for him. Yes, he was a very hot Yuki (as was Hatsuharu) but no one deserves a tackleglomp.

StripperVash - dude, you're so patient. I would have snapped about 11 am Saturday if I were you in that costume. :)

RoMayDrako
05-17-2004, 11:45 PM
That would be her. That's how she does it.

CapsuleCorp
05-18-2004, 12:33 AM
OMG ZACH! I just stumbled on the rant thread at the ACen forums that stemmed from your kind apology. People are SO STUPID! Don't you dare think of giving back that award. As far as I'm concerned, you deserve it.

Ugh. Sometimes, we soooo forget that this is just a hobby...

Toshimasa
05-18-2004, 12:36 AM
Alright, the signs and such was getting way too out of line. Some were alright, and there were some people that were polite about it, however, when I started to see guys holding signs proclaiming "Hug me, I have low Self Esteem" started to get on my nerves. In all due respect, if you have low self esteem, I'm less likely to hug you.

But on top of that, people were generally rude, especially on Saturday when me, Julie, and Jen were dressed up in out Vampire Hunter D costumes. We were trying to get Jen up to the room so that she could put her sword in there (which the con security said was out of regulation..and we thought it would be best to keep it in the room) and it was starting to break some. As we were riding up on the elevator, as well as just walking around, people would rudely come up and just touch the sword without asking! At that point, I was ready to yell at people for being so inconsiderate. Especially upon working on such costumes.

Not to mention, the general manners in the elevators (glomping, pushing, shoving, etc) was getting out of hand. Yes, we know this is your floor, yes, we know you need to get off, but pushing people that have spikes and breakable things on their costumes out of the way to get off...is not needed, especially when there is a door open button.

I hope some of these manners change for the next con, or a revolution is going to start.

trekkieb47
05-18-2004, 12:45 AM
I dont kiss chicks, and this fugly girl came up to me 93875384 times asking 'pretty lady want a kiss?' GAHH.

That same girl came up to me and my girlfriend WHEN I WAS HOLDING HER and asked her that same thing. That was just friggin rude and inappropriate. Grrrr weirdos!

Berry

shin kurenai
05-18-2004, 12:51 AM
my plan at a-kon to handle disruptive behavior/odors involves ropes and those self-serving car washes.

:D

Toshimasa
05-18-2004, 12:58 AM
my plan at a-kon to handle disruptive behavior/odors involves ropes and those self-serving car washes.

:D

Haha, I would love to see that...and I bet it would be quite effective. I'm hoping that PMX won't have this type of trouble, since it's a fairly new con.

BlitzballMstr
05-18-2004, 01:06 AM
*singsong voice* Someebody wasnnnt breaast feedd! Awww does the Otaku need human contact? I reccomend SOCIAL SKILLS and GOOD MANNERS to pathetisad signs.

There were ALOT of people who were WAY out of line at this con. I was with Sakon when she got umm...'hugged' and not only did he rush her from the side when she grudgingly said yes, he buried his face in what he thought was her clevage (jokes on him, her top gave the illusion of jacked up clevage) and like shook it around! If I wasn't having a pair of wings ripped off my back I would have grabbed him and punched him in the throat. Nice guy my ASS. He's lucky her husband wasnt there.

Before this con I could count the number of times I'd been nonconsensualy photographed on one hand, but it DOUBLED in the course of ONE day. On Saturday when I was wearing Angel I wasn't paying attention on my walk back from the dealers room for the corridor and was trying to tune out the snickering behind me, when lo and behold I discovered a videocamera had been trained on my ass for the whole walk back. In addition to that there were TWO seperate incidents in the hall later that day where a passle of morons tried to photograph my back, and ran away like little bitches when I called them on it. (Possibly the same people last year who took the numerous creepy photos of my Peorth costume) And then there was the guy who wanted the sleeping on the shoulder picture...freak.

The 'hug' shit was WAY out of line. I saw that aeris chick linebacker rush a guy in the hall and attempt to cram her tongue down his throat, the signs were rediculous, not since Nekocon 2002 have I seen so many rediculous signs (and at least Those sign people kept their hands to themselves) I just started laughing my head off at people with the pity signs.

If it keeps getting worse at future cons Im just going to start carrying a cattle prod

I would have called security on the punks that were filming you...that truly is not right. Though you calling them on it was probally worse and more embarassing than anything security would do. I agree with you on the fact that some people were really out of line with the hugs and everything. I saw some girl picking people up off the ground and swinging them around Sat night just inside the lobby doors.

The whole nonconsensualy taking of someones photo I don't like. When taking someones photo at a con you should always make sure of three things
1. The person is okay with the photo being taken.
2. Make sure they aren't in a ruch somewhere (I.E the Masquerade)
3. They aren't in the middle of something dinner an in-depth conversation.

I'll also admit I violated my own rule #3 when I took your pic Anya but that was the first and only time I saw you that weekend( it looked like it was after one of the cotume panels Sat night and you were talking with someone, my bad ) >< plus it was the only Angel costume I had ever seen so I had to get a picture lol

...oh I'll have my pictures up soon, I'll send you a message when I do ^^

Kensuke
05-18-2004, 01:43 AM
Does anyone know if all the people who had signs that said "$1 for a kiss" or "$1 for whatever" got kicked out of the damn hotel? Thats panhandling and these complete retards should know thats not allowed. No I am not giving you my goddamn money so you can be disgusting on me or anyone else. Besides, I dont kiss chicks, and this fugly girl came up to me 93875384 times asking 'pretty lady want a kiss?'

I was agreeing with this thread up until about this point...

Then it started to deteriorate into name calling and threats of violence.

Calling somebody ugly or making value judgements about their character or life has nothing to do with the issue at hand. The issue and hand is whether or not con goers are being harassed and the law is being followed.

The girl you were talking about slept with my group in our room. She conked out on our bed and I had to sleep on the floor.

Now, personally, that alone means I had to put up with more BS than you did because I lost a nice comfy bed. But *I* took it in stride because *I* have come to learn that's the type of stuff that happens at cons. It does not stop me from staffing cons, serving on the board of one, and running an organization that promotes anime cons (we gave $1,000 to ACEN this year).

The sign issue will ultimately be decided based on a possible liability concern to the con. Not whether you or anybody else feels that it's stupid. Most cons can really care less about whether your "personal space" is being violated unless you are drug out into the back ally and raped, or some other law is being broken. You have *no* "personal space" in the common areas of an anime convention. You are NOT ENTITLED to "personal space" at an anime convention. If you desire "personal space" you need to stay home. Otakon banned the signs based on matters of legality. Not censorship, or to make their attendees feel more comfortable.

You are all dressing up as popular anime characters. You are going to be admired, glomped, crowded, and asked to have your picture taken 8 billion times. What on God's green Earth makes you think you're going to have "personal space" or be 100% free from annoyance?

Get over it. For the love of God.

If it gets too bad, ask con security to talk with them, but it's a temporary fix to what has become a norm in this field.

I want to get a restraining order against a certain cosplayer on this site who is prone to fits of physical violence and has lied through her teeth in public about me, but it's not going to do a bit of good because the overworked security departments of many of these cons don't have the manpower or perogative to enforce it, and it was suggested as such to me. And why should they? It's not their problem. It's mine. It's yours.

As a senior convention officer, I'm getting really irritated by this desire to see anime conventions impose rules in order to safeguard people's own sense of social stratification or graces. I don't really give a crap. Handle it yourself. I am more concerned about thigs like "fiscal solvency" and "legal compliance". AFAIK the girl in question was repremanded by ACEN security because her sign asked for money, which put her at odds with a Rosemont ordnance regarding solicitation. That was a legal concern. You'll note all the other signs stayed where they were, irregardless of whether or not people liked them.

When such an official proclamation is made about these signs it will be made in a professional manner without the need for ad hominem attacks, and it accordance with the best interest's of the con as a law abiding organization. That's why they (and I) run cons as opposed to some of you with your juvenile ranting about such a minor issue.

Yes. The conventions want you to have fun. No. They are not going to control the content to suit your whims.

And one more thing...

If you physically attack *ANYBODY* for *ANY* reason other than self defense in order to avoid grave bodily injury, *YOU* (not them!) will be ejected from the con. These jokes about attacking sign holders are not a laughing matter.

They're asking for attention. You're threating violence. In the grander scheme of things, I'd say that the latter is far more devious than the former.
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Cherry
05-18-2004, 04:44 AM
As a senior convention officer, I'm getting really irritated by this desire to see anime conventions impose rules in order to safeguard people's own sense of social stratification or graces. I don't really give a crap. Handle it yourself. I am more concerned about thigs like "fiscal solvency" and "legal compliance". AFAIK the girl in question was repremanded by ACEN security because her sign asked for money, which put her at odds with a Rosemont ordnance regarding solicitation. That was a legal concern. You'll note all the other signs stayed where they were, irregardless of whether or not people liked them.




Thank God someone said it.

People are going to do a lot of things you don't like in life. I've been staffed at cons for four years now, and I just have seen people bicker at so many things.

If someone makes a sign you don't like, don't look at it. If someone makes a costume you don't like, don't look at it. If there's a movie you don't like, you don't go watch it. It's really just as simple as that. It's every day common sense. The sign thing was due to legal matters, and not the self-gratification of fans.

I personally don't like, or agree with the sign thing, but that is not my buisness. This is a hobby, and it's for fun, and I won't get in other people's way about it.

Reguarding the hugging/glomping thing, people who come to conventions feel an instant connection with everyone around them (Thus why people are so nice at anime conventions), so we are all very receptive to each other. When someone asks for a hug? What the hell! They admire you. Give them one. They won't give you cooties. Relax.

I've been asked for hugs in multiple costumes, from people that are happy to see the character pulled off so well.



Just remember. It's for fun. Fun.

Fun means enjoy it.

Cherry
05-18-2004, 05:03 AM
I think I am going to have a sign that says "I want to invade your personal space as a personal attack on you".

Nemui Yume
05-18-2004, 05:08 AM
Though i saw all those signs the Moogle that was hugging everyone was great..

XD I got hugged by a huge moogle.

I was also asked a million times for a hug x.x;; i refused politely and they did stop.

HyperrrMouse
05-18-2004, 11:51 AM
I have to agree with Anya on this.

Yes physical violence is wrong, but i think everyone is blowing off steam, and is allowed to do so. I don't think anyone is going to hurt anyone else without just cause.

And i'm sorry, but if one of those people had groped me, or buried their face in my chest i would have hit them and given them verbal hell. I would have been in my rights also since i would have been sexually assaulted and i am allowed to defend myself.

Just because we are in a public place, and dressed a certain way, does not mean we are asking to be treated in a corse manner. That's like saying, "she was asking to get raped 'cause she was in a short skirt." Yes of course cosplay gropage or what have you is a much milder event to have occured, but how far off is it really? When we are told it's not a big deal when a friend in street clothes gets groped just because she's at a convention, something is VERY wrong.

I think the hope of this thread is that people will read it, and more closely monitor their actions for next year. That's why i've posted here. I'm hoping we can all be a responsible community. It would be a shame if this all got out of hand, and the convention had to be cancelled or something.

Voltz
05-18-2004, 02:31 PM
People just need to be a little more calm :), I'm fine with hugging and etc. To an extent, the extent is when I'm taken down unknowingly. If some other Zabuza came up to me and was like psssh I'm sooo better, we'll I'd get pissed off to Vash. You've got all right to be. I think people need to hug something at home and get it out of their system before the con :). Then they'll be all hugged out that they wont want to attack anyone. For annoying people that say stupid stuff like "mines bigger" well they just deserve a slap. Fangirls/boys are a part of the con, the attention is nice. It goes to show that your hard work has payed off. But when they jump on you and possibly reck your hard work they arnt showing their appreaction, but simply over reacting. I'm some what knew to cons and since my last one the "glomping" on me has grown expanetially. It's recked sevaral things on my costume. I was gracious to those who asked kindly. Even those who obssed over me in a orderly fashion. Now the may sound like an oximoron, but most of the people who were obssevie over me at the con were orderly. They still asked for hugs, a lot, but understood limits. They didn't hurt me or my costume for the most part. Those are the people I adore, their output of high energy gets me cheered up. It's the fangirls/boys that act accordingly and maturly about the situation that make the con so great! It's the ones that break your costume and ask for kisses/hugs cause of low self essteem that get to me. Like I said, I'm new to cons, but I'm trying to absorb and understand the best I can. (sorry for my bad spelling). But of course these are just my views, and that's what the fourm is for, to express your views.

Cherry
05-18-2004, 03:08 PM
I certainly hope people don't read this and "Monitor their actions" at any con.

Don't -molest- people. If they don't want it because they're too up tight, then don't hug them. If someone says no, obviously you blow them off, and move to someone else.


I've had someone shove their tongue down my throat before. And while that boy now has no balls, I still know the fine line between someone giving out hugs to be nice, and someone with a negative intentions. I don't blame everyone for one person's mistake.

Oh, and by the way, Anya, I agree about the ""Wow. I like your costume" Or "Can I take your picture?" or "This is my favorite charachter, and I like how you've done the costume, could I please give you a hug"". Yes, that is quite appropriate.

I believe Hyperrr mouse started talking about actual molestation, which is not what this thread is about, so I am going to just end my thoughts there reguarding that.


I will however, just offer my most blunt peice of advice reguarding people who will NO DOUBT give you a hug against your will NEXT year.:


There are jerks everywhere. Even at cons.

If you can't deal with that fact, then you should not go.

Or learn a good right hook.

AllStarAlice
05-18-2004, 03:42 PM
True there were some freakin' messed up people there. I sadly encountered the girl asking for a kiss for $1 and that creepy ass Vash who also was asking me for my screen name.

Jimmoman, I saw that freaky Aeris who was stealing your Sephiroth friends' sword. She was running into him a lot and he kept asking for the sword back but she wouldn't give it to him...now that is just wrong. My friends and I saw it from a distance and we felt bad, we just thought, what the hell, can't people act even the slightest bit civil?

About the personal space deal. You are ALWAYS entitled to personal space. YES EVEN AT AN ANIME CONVENTION. This doesn't mean you should always have 3 feet of space around you, it just means that if someone is in your face, whether it be aggressive glomping/hugging/kissing then you most definitely have the right to say no and push them away, and report it to con security.

There was also a really big asshole guy dressed as Miroku from Inuyasha, I was with 2 of my friends who were dressed as Rikku, and another girl dressed as Rikku also~ the guy asked for hugs from them, and proceeded to GRAB THEIR ASSES mid hug. Then he says "I love this convention" and walks off. We all screamed at him as he walked away, but it didn't seem to phase him -_-;;;

freakyarcher
05-18-2004, 03:53 PM
people actually wear signs that ask for hugs and kisses?

effembee
05-18-2004, 03:57 PM
Yes they did, believe it or not. It seemed like there were more perverts here then last year...but perhaps that's just because I've never been to a convention and stayed out of my room or until 11:00. This was my second convention...I could be wrong, maybe there's always been perverts like this every year, but...for some reason it seemed like that... :eeek:

Kensuke
05-18-2004, 04:03 PM
We're not talking about sexual assault, and few of you are bitching about sexual assault. I said that if you are a victim of sexual assault, then security and LE needs to step in.

What I'm hearing is that the sign holders need to be thrown out because they "offend you", and that being asked to be glomped or having somebody come up to you is an invasion of your "personal space".

To which I say: Bullshit.

Of course, if somebody touches your breasts, nobody is faulting you for planting your knee in their groin. But that's not what I'm hearing. I'm hearing people complaining about being asked to be hugged or having to see signs with silly slogans. Get over it. It's not enough that you're not being sexually assaulted, but now you want the con to impose some sort of firewall that allows you to tightly control what you see, hear, or talk to.

Do you realise the sheer abmount of manpower it's going to take to make you feel 100% comfortable? Do you realise that's why con's don't even bother?

Here's an idea....let's PAY security staff. Then we can pass on the cost to you by charging $100 for registration. Will that sit well with any of you?

And as far as blowing off steam is concerned. I'm not finding it funny. I have to deal with jerkoffs like that who make threats of physical violence against other con attendees. "But I'm irritated! So it's okay!".

No, it's not. Bye bye. Don't come back. The nice police officer will be escorting you off the property.....

RaveSleeper
05-18-2004, 04:10 PM
Hmm... Red, and Red Helmet, that was most likely the Veiwitful Joe cos-player... I talked with him, he didn't seem like a bad person...


But there are a lot of good huggers out there, so don't let one bad apple ruin your bag

Besides we're talking about Otaku here, buring his face in your breasts is the closest he'll ever get to the real thing that doesn't involve him giving his credit card number...

lol if it is him she has everyright to get mad i know him from school hes really well creepy and the fact that he was wearing spandex just made it worse but one good point im pretty sure hes gay so hes not out to get you

I dunno i didn't really have any bad hugging expericances pretty much every one asked nicely so i gave them what they wanted the only bad one i had was when i walked by a group of girls and one was staring at me but she wasn't saying anything so i just walked by thinking prolly just someone who likes the costume then i turn around and i hear a NEJI!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and a friend or the girl dives at me almost knocking me to the floor. I was flatered but i wish she had asked before tackleing me >.>....

HyperrrMouse
05-18-2004, 04:13 PM
Hmm, by "monitor their actions" i am simply refering to using common courtesy, nothing like "don't do anything or else the sky will fall" don't worry. Sorry, i guess that was terribly unclear, sorry about that. I need to get better at making sense.

I'm referring to taking actions like deciding NOT to 'glomp' some person because they may have a fragile costume. Not to hump a person when you've asked for a hug, because, well a hump is not a hug, and that sort of thing. Likewise, not to grope when you ask for a hug and a picture. Just little judgement calls that could help make all con-goers happy. This is to what i'm referring to when i say "monitor their actions," just trying to do unto others as you think they want to be treated, and remember that we're not all alike even though we like anime.

Sorry, not disagreeing with your statement Cherry, just clarifying mine because it wasn't clear enough. Sorry it was so garbled.

Cherry
05-18-2004, 04:49 PM
Do you realise the sheer abmount of manpower it's going to take to make you feel 100% comfortable? Do you realise that's why con's don't even bother?

Here's an idea....let's PAY security staff. Then we can pass on the cost to you by charging $100 for registration. Will that sit well with any of you?


I think 100 con security staff volunteers just instantly got excited by you saying that.


Jesus Christ.

Well to me, it sounds like people that went to Anime Central don't know how to behave themselves, and -all- act like children. I've been going to cons for five years, and I've never had a problem like this. Ever. Not at any of the cons I have been to.

^_^ But again. There is nothing you can do about it, and it's nobodies fault.

DaphHime
05-18-2004, 06:19 PM
Also if the kid that played Viewitful Joe well I know him. He goes to my school, I doubt it was him. But if you find out for sure, I'll make sure he doesn't do such again.

Funny, he goes to my school too. He's a bit crazy but I doubt he'd do anything like that. Though you never know with some people. >_>

I thought some of the signs were a bit overdone. Hugs for pocky, okay maybe, but not for money. There were a few times I'd hug people just to be nice, but there were times when I wasn't in the mood for it.

I like signs better when they are a part of the costume. I was iching to make a sign that said "Hail Ilpalazzo!" just because I was tired of saying it myself.

Mokona Plushie
05-18-2004, 07:41 PM
Besides, I dont kiss chicks, and this fugly girl came up to me 93875384 times asking 'pretty lady want a kiss?

I am sorry but maybe...I just have to say, even though they were being rude but you are being rude to them now by saying they are ugly...I am sorry, I just had to say that.

This was my first year at ACen, and I kind of assumed the signs and hugs were a normal thing, and I didn't mind untill the desperate people started the violent glomping.

It was my first year too and same with my friends so we thought it was the norm, I didn't mind giving hugs until some older man came up to me and gave me a random hug almost knocking me over, might I add I am fourteen but look and weigh like I am twelve...==; I tripped over my braid and almost ripped it which I would have been extremely angry if it did rip...

Then there was the time some guy asked for a hug when I was crying, No thank you, my friends are with me and they can comfort me, some random person I don't know does not have to give me hugs.

Finally, on Friday night my friend and I were hugging and my other friends were taking pictures. We broke apart and some guy told us to get back together, turns out he was trying to get a picture of us without asking >.<

Otherwise besides a couple of other older men randomly hugging me I was fine, the others asked politely or if my friends asked for a picture of someone else those in return asked for a picture of me (I was the only one dressed up)

Reguarding the hugging/glomping thing, people who come to conventions feel an instant connection with everyone around them (Thus why people are so nice at anime conventions), so we are all very receptive to each other. When someone asks for a hug? What the hell! They admire you. Give them one. They won't give you cooties. Relax.

I have to agree unless you can not give hugs are not comfortable..why not? Or maybe it is just my personality...I thought someone cosplaying as a Berserker Paine was extremely nice, my friend asked her for a hug politely but she said she couldn't so I asked for a picture, after the picture she offered to scartch our backs! I thought that was nice of her...

I think people need to hug something at home and get it out of their system before the con

Works, I held a Mokona Plushie so unless someone ran off with it then I was fine. Half the time I was too shy to ask for pictures or hugs but if I did I asked politely and made sure they were free (If I asked someone when they weren't I am really sorry!)

An appropriate response or show of appreciation would be "Wow. I like your costume" Or "Can I take your picture?" or "This is my favorite charachter, and I like how you've done the costume, could I please give you a hug"

I say everyone just follows this policy, it is not that hard to ask (unless you are shy >.<) But don't randomly hug or glomp people...

Fory-san
05-18-2004, 08:00 PM
Even though I did not attend ACEN this year, I am a sign holder ("Join the cult of Ultraman"). I agree with a lot of what people have posted about this. I have no problem with people asking for a hug or holding a sign asking for such. But I believe anyone that forcefully invades someone's space without asking is out of line and it's that type of behavior that I've been reading about that is going to make the conventions crack down harder on the fans aren't doing anything wrong.

Basically, if the fans keep pushing the envelope, anime conventions are going to close the post office.

Maryssa
05-18-2004, 09:18 PM
I am sorry but maybe...I just have to say, even though they were being rude but you are being rude to them now by saying they are ugly...I am sorry, I just had to say that.
I never said she was being rude by doing it, and I certainly don't deny I am being 'rude' by saying she was ugly. In my opinion she was, so if it's rude to have my own opinion then I guess it's that particular girl's problem, and not yours really. I'm not exactly the type of person to sugar-coat and be false PC as many people here tend to be. So sorry, but *I* just had to say that.

Back on topic plskthx.

RoMayDrako
05-18-2004, 10:32 PM
Okay I was one of those people who to surprise pictures of peoples. But I have a few rules.

1. I make sure no one is sleeping. (this has happened to me)
2. No one is on the phone.
and
3. No one is talking to anouther person

OH and as curtisy I show them the pic so they don't get worried it's bad. Usually everyone don't mind.

I think random glompers should get in trouble. I'm scared to go as some costumes cuase of glomping issues. cause think of other people who are out there and are sick and risking the con thing. A glomp can be bad. Non random glompers are fine. To be told 'Can I glomp you?' would be nice.

My ex roomate is a bad glomper she surprises and hurts with out remorse. There are some people who cross the line and ruin it for others who do it safe.

But on the other hand I know some glompers, more glompers, who know how to do it nicely. "May I run up to you and glomp you PULLLEEEASE- OKIES!"

And face it peoples, if they made rules about signs and glomping we'll be back here complaining about them.

And to everyone who thinks we'd do random violance. We wish, were just blowing off steam. But if a glomper or molester should get hrut, it should be there own ----ing fault for surprising peoples.

Just in short. You love to hug. Ask from two feet away. You'll probably get one.

AcenGuyMasamune
05-18-2004, 10:32 PM
That wasn't me..-cough-

But you followed me on Sunday! So bwahaha!

Same with Jimmoman, I though signs were the norm..And that Sephiroth was SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NICE!!! He was sooo kind and he bowed to me and he let me hug him like 5 times so nice so nice!! Tell him thank you very much for making my ACen wonderful!
heh, no need to have jim thank me. but yeah, i remember you! hey no problem with the hugs (it was great ^-^'). like most coplay's hugs (or in some causes :ahem: anything more) are a lot of fun, but when fangirls turn violent (like in my case) i wasnt sure whether to surrender myself to their molesting hands or take the ol' masamune to 'em, heh. In the end of 'one' of my incidents i was able to escape to the bathroom (thank god...) anyway, i really apprecieat the picture you took of me playing the violin! it's the first one like it that i've found and you've probably noticed im using it heh heh. thanks again. your pal AcenGuyMasamune (One Winged Angel Sephiroth)

RoMayDrako
05-18-2004, 10:35 PM
AcenGuyMasume: You made one womans day. One of the Aeris'. And yeah I know you must have gotten alot of ----. Good costume by the way. Loved it. Though that's one pic that didn't turn out ;_;

Kensuke
05-18-2004, 11:14 PM
I've had someone shove their tongue down my throat before. And while that boy now has no balls,

Yes! Don't mess with Texas!!!

But yeah.....this is quite different than some of the other crabbing and complaining.

- John

Cherry
05-19-2004, 01:57 AM
I never said she was being rude by doing it, and I certainly don't deny I am being 'rude' by saying she was ugly. In my opinion she was, so if it's rude to have my own opinion then I guess it's that particular girl's problem, and not yours really. I'm not exactly the type of person to sugar-coat and be false PC as many people here tend to be. So sorry, but *I* just had to say that.

Back on topic plskthx.


...We aren't sugar coated. We're decent to other fans, and remember that they are human beings.

Calling someone ugly on a public forum shows little to no class. You can say that to your friends, in your own private conversation. The fact that she was ugly had nothing to do with the subject at hand, for someone that is telling US to get back on topic. It was bitter and cruel of you.

Please. Kay. Thanks.

Cherry
05-19-2004, 01:58 AM
I apologize, but I have severe problem with public insults.

Kensuke
05-19-2004, 02:53 AM
I never said she was being rude by doing it, and I certainly don't deny I am being 'rude' by saying she was ugly. In my opinion she was, so if it's rude to have my own opinion then I guess it's that particular girl's problem, and not yours really. I'm not exactly the type of person to sugar-coat and be false PC as many people here tend to be. So sorry, but *I* just had to say that.

And I need to say this:

You are coming across as a heartless bitch and a bigot.

This is the type of pubesant high school valley-girl crap that is wrong with cosplay and is eventually going to eat away at it like a cancer. I'm not thrilled with these cliques where people see fit to classify one another based upon the way they dress or look. It's like a buch of tennie-bopper brats trying to outdo one another and be more popular.

Please don't come to any con I work for if you're going to have that shitty egotistical attitude.

I will only say that when the sign issue is handled it will be done for the sake of the con. Not because it offends your fragile sensibility, or because it doesn't mesh with what you think is "cool".

BTW, you might appreciate the irony that the "ugly girl" won a craftsmanship award in the masquerade.

Cherry
05-19-2004, 02:59 AM
Does anyone know if all the people who had signs that said "$1 for a kiss" or "$1 for whatever" got kicked out of the damn hotel? Thats panhandling and these complete retards should know thats not allowed. No I am not giving you my goddamn money so you can be disgusting on me or anyone else. Besides, I dont kiss chicks, and this fugly girl came up to me 93875384 times asking 'pretty lady want a kiss?' GAHH. I want to walk around with a lighter next time and jsut set all the damn signs on fire. Its like ONE person does it beacuse they are a loser and are craving the wrong kind of attention and then all the other losers decide HEY THATS COOL I WILL DO IT TOO and before long we had a whole damn lobby full of PATHETIC sign-holding scum. Augh i need to stop here because I will carry on all day about this. People seriously need a life.


Listen, Kensuke. I don't know what you are talking about. There is NO WAY that the above post sounds childish at all.

. . . as the person dressed up as a cartoon character yells about other people dressed up as cartoon characters . . . for holding signs.

SIGN HOLDERS HAVE TO SIT AT THE SIGN HOLDER TABLE BECAUSE THEY ARE LOSERS!! WHY DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THIS!??! THEY ARE LOW!!!



Kensuke is -SO- off of the cheerleading team.

Cherry
05-19-2004, 03:01 AM
Hah. I don't know. I just can't get over that post. It sounds so cruel.

I don't like sign holders either. At all. I think it is sort of silly, but if it makes SOMEONE HAPPY, I won't knock it. That's like someone wanting to ban my Harry Potter costume because it offends them. If it makes me happy, who cares? . But burning something because you don't like it?. . .

shin kurenai
05-19-2004, 03:10 AM
There was also a really big asshole guy dressed as Miroku from Inuyasha, I was with 2 of my friends who were dressed as Rikku, and another girl dressed as Rikku also~ the guy asked for hugs from them, and proceeded to GRAB THEIR ASSES mid hug. Then he says "I love this convention" and walks off. We all screamed at him as he walked away, but it didn't seem to phase him -_-;;;

it's sad that some guy's idea of flirting is like that.

it all boils down to having manners. i guess some people feel like since other people around them like anime or whatever floats their boat, that manners arent needed.

and past manners it's just a matter of personal comfort with people you might meet.

there's hardly any reasons worth getting into a fight or anything but if someone makes someone uncomfortable like that, they should definitely be informed that it's not ok to behave like that. people have respect issues i guess.

dont bother with con security if someone is really making you feel uncomfortable. i know most conventions have at least one cop walking around.

:3
:cheers:

Maryssa
05-19-2004, 03:27 AM
Okay I think thats enough now. I dont see why everyone is getting hugely offended by me thinking one single person isnt attractive, but whatever. Again, I'm sick of many people being overly-PC here sometimes. The also had nothing to do with cosplay--neither of us were dressed up and I would have had the same reaction if I was anywhere other than a convention. And no, I would not have changed my mind if she had won some cosplay award... what does that have to do with anything? Yes, my temper raged a little in my initial post because I am honestly sick of all the fishing for attention via these signs. However my general feelings toward this topic do not change, and if you seriously want to waste your time yelling at me then take it to PM please.