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JunJun
06-10-2004, 11:29 PM
I always prefer to support companies that do not test on animals! Cosmetics companies are not required to test on animals, so why should they? Its already known what formulas do and do not evoke reactions upon skin. Its not always evident who does and who does not test! Even if a bottle says, does not test, that doesn't mean that applies to every ingredient.

Here is a list of cosmetics companies who have either signed PETAs statement of assurance, or meet the Corporate Standard of Compassion for Animals. This means that they really don't test!
Here is the full list (http://www.caringconsumer.com/page/CompaniesDont.pdf). I've listed things i know to be cosmetics related, but the list is huge! Go check it out.
Almay (Revlon)
Aloette Cosmetics
Aramis (Estee Lauder)
Aunt Bee's Skin Care
Aveda
Avon
Bath & Body Works
BeautiControl
Beauty Naturally
Beauty without Cruelty
Bobbi Brown (Estee Lauder)
The Body Shop
Bumble & Bumble (Estee Lauder)
Clinique Laboratories
Color Me Beautiful
Columbia Cosmetics
Concept Now Cosmetics
Crabtree & Evelyn (they make nice lotions...mmm)
Donna Karan Beauty Company (Estee Lauder)
Dr.Bronners!!! I <3 Dr.Bronners!!
Estee Lauder
Giovanni Cosmetics
Hard Candy
Jane (Estee Lauder)
Juice Beauty
Kiehl's (hair products, i think. Boyfriends sister uses it)
Kiss My Face
Liz Claybourne Cosmetics
MAC Cosmetics
Manic Panic
Mary Kay Cosmetics
Merle Norman
Nivea
Nordstrom Cosmetics
OPI (yay for hardcore nail polish)
Paul Mitchell
Revlon
Studio Magic Cosmetics
Tommy Hilfiger (Estee Lauder)
Too Faced Cosmetics
Urban Decay
Warm Earth Cosmetics

Here is a list (http://www.caringconsumer.com/page/CompaniesDo.pdf) of companies who DO test on animals. (and a link).
Arm & Hammer
Church & Dwight
Clairol
Colegate/Palmolive
Cover Girl
Dial
Gilette (currently suspended testing, but not signed permanently)
Johnson & Johnson
Kimberly Clark
L'Oreal
Max Factor
Olay/Oil of Olay
Pantene
Pfizer
Playtex (not cosmetics, but important to the ladies)
Procter & Gamble
Sally Hansen
Schering-Plough (Dr.Scholl's, Coppertone)
SC Johnson
Soft Soap
Suave
Unilever (Lever soap, etc)

I hope these lists are helpful to some of you! It always kind of irks me that the big huge companies that are hard to avoid are on the "do test" list. There's no reason! Look at all the companies who get along really well with no testing. Oh, i know St.Ives doesn't test, but i didn't see them on either list. I heart St.Ives. I super reccomend Dr.Bronners soap, its wonderful! Even my local grocery carries it now, so i dont' even have to trek to a health food store! Its pure hemp castille soap, and it comes in many herbal varieties (Peppermint is my favorite right now... menthol all over makes you feel so nice and tingly and clean! Lavender is also really nice, its relaxing). It comes in liquid, bar, etc.
Cruelty free! hehehe. :dance:

Hinata
06-11-2004, 04:44 PM
Hell YEAH! I never use stuff that is tested, and if I need to use sheepskin, ect..
I always make sure it's faux. Thanks for posting that. I luff PETA. :sunny:

miaka2u
06-11-2004, 08:42 PM
Thanks for the info. I had no idea some of these companies tested on animals! I'll be sure to stay far away from them from now on! ^_^ *huggles* You are the best!

JunJun
06-11-2004, 08:49 PM
PETA (caringconsumer.org, specifically), also has a list of common ingredients that have animal products/byproducts in them, that may not always appear so (big words confoose us). Its surprising how hard it is to avoid animal products.

The irritating things for me aren't the cosmetics; there are plenty of big names that don't test, but the hygeine companies! Gilette, Colgate, Dial, Procter & Gamble, all make products we use every day without thinking about it! You may buy a product that's by a subsidiary of a company, and not even know it belongs to one of these. Peruse health food stores if you want to go completely test-free, and can't find the normal hygeine products. There are lots of really great ones out there. You can also make your own stuff! toothpaste, shampoo, etc. <3

I'm so glad this helped some people :) Knowledge is power!! <3

miaka2u
06-11-2004, 09:00 PM
This is off topic, but I'm assuming you are also a vegetarian/vegan. I may be wrong in my assumption, but if you are going to take time to post all this about the companies testing on animals then you must really care about them.

I do too! And that's why I really appreciate you posting this! I plan to help animals by becoming a vet! Go me!

Hinata
06-11-2004, 09:20 PM
I'm vegan, too! A bunch of people who are members of PETA also like to cosplay..
and they like anime and stuff. Maybe, it's the whole free-speech thing?
Or maybe we're just cool. Yeah. That's probably it. XD

Chanté
06-11-2004, 09:35 PM
Burt's Bees is also a beauty company that does not test on animals. Hell, they're like the most "environmental" beauty company out there! All their packaging is made of recycled/recyclable material, their products are always 99%+ all-natural, and they even have their own environment campaign. =)

http://www.burtsbees.com

miaka2u
06-11-2004, 09:35 PM
OMG! This is so cool! My whole family thinks I'm weird because I don't do the whole meat eatting thing or any of that stuff. ^-^ Do you realize how hard it is to live with a family like that...

My twin sister (Genki-UHinagiku) always disses me. But, I think that's the only thing we disagree with. We are always together and when we separate for college this August it's going to be shocking. Right now we're working on Van and Merle cosplay costumes. ^_^() Next year we plan to to Amiboshi (me) and Suboshi and Hisoka and Hijiri (me and my lovely violin).

I think it's just because we are cool! XD

JunJun
06-11-2004, 10:13 PM
Dude i <3 Burts Bees. Their chapstick is SOOOOO great!!! They make a load of head-related hygeine products (hair, face, etc).

Actually, i've found myself feeling very alone in the cosplay/anime world with my vegetarianism. I didn't know there were more of us ^_^;;;; All of my cosplay friends are meat eaters! I don't think many of them know i'm vegetarian. o_o
I'm hopefully starting study in veterinary medicine this coming semester. :) I've piddled with so many vocational ideas. Makeup, costumes, vet medicine, herbal medicine, etc. oi. can't decide.

:3 i get PETA mailings. My mother says, i don't want that stuff coming to my house, people will think i'm a nutcase!! (our mail is delivered to locked boxes! the hell?) I usually like PETA, but a lot of their measures seem very extreme to me. I still support their ideas, and understand that it takes a bit of extremeism to get the moderate things done.

I understand how hard it is to be at odds with family. My parents have accepted it, but mom still says once in a while "it would be so much easier if you ate meat." My boyfriend is also a vegetarian, so eating with his family is easy too. I get off easier with critics who bash animal-loving vegetarianism, because its more than just cruelty, its also healthier.

I still can't find faux fur foxtails *cry* the real ones are so pretty and i want a pretty one too but they're all real. lol. Sad!

Go buy Dr.Bronners! rah rah rah! *dr bronners cheer* fresh and clean!

miaka2u
06-11-2004, 10:35 PM
I've never tried Burts Bees. Well, now that I think about it... wait look I do have some! It's the chapstick! Mwahahahahaha! I got it for my birthday in January! I just stuck it with all my other chapsticks... I have too many. -_-

There's a lot of us! I have two cosplaying friends who are... well, one's a vegan and one's a vegetarian. Let's see, Scortia, is the vegan. Have you ever seen any of her cosplays? She'd pretty good, IMO. And the other isn't on here. So unlike you I haven't felt too alone. Ack, should we even be talking about this? It's kinda off topic, ne?

Ooooo, someone else who will study vet medicine! Woot! We can go through all the physics and biology together. And the great thing about it is my college has 100% of people studying pre-vet med get excepted into vet school. I'm also going to study theate and choir. ^_^

That's what I say it's healthier, but my mom's like, "look at how pale you are now! That's not heathy. Go take your vitamin." >.< Whatever. I just don't feel like laying out in the sun like she does. And not to mention she's Spanish and Indian... I've got some Scandinavian blood in me from my dad. --()

Pretty fox tails... >< Do they even make faux ones?

Scortia
06-11-2004, 11:13 PM
*waves* Yep I'm the vegan. ;p Anyway, somehow this is dragging off topic... but yeah cruelty free is nice. Such cosmetics are easily found at Whole Foods Markets. A good line is Ecco Bella... which I found through a special seller which has NO hazardous materials used in it... a bottle is $18 though... ;-;

Oh and you may wanna read up on some controversial PETA articles... there's a lot of evidence that they are planting false tapes these days among other nasty tactics.

<3 Burts Bees Chapstick too

JunJun
06-11-2004, 11:34 PM
Oh, today in Sephora (tis a dangerous store for me... so expensive), i was perusing the Hard Candy and i saw a line of brushes that were cruelty-free synthetic fibers. Do you guys know if they're good brushes?
I so need to go to the health food store again. Sigh. I'm low on my soap.
Do you know a good shampoo akin to Herbal Essences that is by a cruelty free company? My hair is so damned fussy, and Herbal Essences is so good to it, but even I didn't know that Clairol tested. :( Sigh.
I'm so glad to find that Crabtree and Evelyn don't test... they make this WONDERFUL "cooks" lotion that's made for heavy working hands. it doesn't make your hand slimy when you wash.

Okay! any other suggestions on really great products?

mikazuki
06-12-2004, 11:52 AM
I hate PETA... they overdramatize conditions at animal farms. I've been to hundreds of various types of animals farms and the conditions of them are always great. Yes there are bad ones out there but there are bad seeds in everything (good doctors and bad ones).

As for boycotting. Before you run out and do such a thing investigate the company. Example, boycotting Procter & Gamble you'll need to stop buying these products:

Secret
Old Spice
Sure
Cover Girl
Max Factor
Always
Tampax
Clariol (which 90+% of people use to color their hair)
Clariol Nice 'n Easy
Clariol Ultress
Pantene
Head & Shoulders
Daily Defense
Pert
VS Sassoon
Physique
Herbal Essences
Aussie
Infusium 23
Natural Instincts
Clairol Hydrience
Balsam Color
Loving Care
A Touch of Sun
Lasting Color
Olay
Zest
Ivory
Noxema
Safeguard
Camay
Hugo Boss
Febreze
Cascade
Dawn
Joy
Salvo
Bounty
Swiffer
Mr. Clean
Tide
Downy
Gain
Cheer
Bounce
Puffs
Charmin
Dryel
Prilosec OTC
Vicks
Metamucil
Pepto-Bismol
ThermaCare
Pur
Crest
Glide
Scope
Fixodent
Gleem
Asacol
Actonel
Macrobid
Dantrium
Didronel
Macrodantin
Dantrium Intravenous
Pampers
Dreft
Folgers
Pringles
Sunny Delight
Torengos
Iams
Eukanuba

Colgate-Palmolive company makes:
Colgate toothpastes
Colgate toothbrushes
Colgate whitenings
Platinum Professional Whitening System (@ dentists)
Gel-Kam stannous fluoride gel
Fluorigard anticavity dental rinse
Viadent advanced care toothpaste and oral rinse
PreviDent (Rx) prescription toothpaste gel or rinse
Phos-Flur gel (Rx) and rinse
Luride(Rx) fluoride supplements
Thera-Flur (Rx) gel-drops
PerioGard (Rx) anti-microbial rinse
Duraphat (Rx) fluoride varnish
Speed Stick
Lady Speed Stick
Crystal Clean
Teen Spirit
Irish Spring
Softsoap
Colgate Shaving Cream
Afta aftershave
Skin Bracer
Palmolive shave cream
Palmolive dishsoap
Ajax
Crystal White Octagon
Dermassage
Murphy Oil Soap
Fabuloso
Fab Laundry detergent
Dynamo Laundry detergent
Sauvitel Fabric Softeners
Science Diet pet food
Hill's Prescription Pet Diet Food

I could go on about every single company on the "Do Test on animals" list and you will see over 90% of products people use are owned by a company that does test on animals. So what are you going to use? Stop cleaning your butt with toilet paper, stop brushing your teeth? The majority of US households are not going to switch over. People love products they are familiar with even if its "tested on animals" properganda.

makotohanabi
06-12-2004, 07:22 PM
thanks for the list, JunJun, been awhile since I got an updated caring consumer list from PETA they also have a guide to fast food places.

Think there are more vegetarian/vegan cosplayers than most people realize or maybe I think it's normal since my sister and many of my friends are vegetarian.

The Body Shop has some really good shampoos and try Lush. They have a store in Washington DC and probably other places, nice soaps and lotions. It's hand made but has a fairly short shelf life http://www.lush.com. I'm pretty sure most if not everything in the store is vegan. :toothy:

Hinata
06-12-2004, 08:54 PM
mikazuki, have you ever heard, that no matter how well they are treated in death. In the end, it is still death. Animals do not deserve to die for our selfish needs, and I live near a dairy farm, where I can hear the cows crying out for their stolen children. One day we will look back on the way we treat animals and wonder how humanity could have been so barbaric, similar to the way blacks where at one time, not considered people. there is no kind way to kill..

..and its like that story, of the little girl who found a starfish dying on the beach. she picked it up and tossed it into the ocean, so it could live. She realized that there were more starfish, so she continued to pick up every single starfish she found, and toss them into the ocean, where they would be safe. an old man came up to her, and said "foolish little girl. don't you know that this beach goes on for miles, and there are millions of starfish? why waste your time when it doesn't even make a difference?" The little girl gave this some thought, then looked at the starfish in her hand, and said "It makes a difference to this one." as she tossed it into the sea. ^^

mikazuki
06-12-2004, 09:38 PM
The thing is with PETA things get overdramatized. How do you know for sure that things are still tested on animals or not? Even then what kinds of tests are being done? If you disagree with animal testing that's fine but not all animal testing is cruel. Better to test it on an animal then to put it out on the market to find out it harms people. Or would be best if companies not made newer products for consumers? Forget the cure for cancer or for AIDs because animal testing was involved.

miaka2u
06-12-2004, 09:42 PM
..and its like that story, of the little girl who found a starfish dying on the beach. she picked it up and tossed it into the ocean, so it could live. She realized that there were more starfish, so she continued to pick up every single starfish she found, and toss them into the ocean, where they would be safe. an old man came up to her, and said "foolish little girl. don't you know that this beach goes on for miles, and there are millions of starfish? why waste your time when it doesn't even make a difference?" The little girl gave this some thought, then looked at the starfish in her hand, and said "It makes a difference to this one." as she tossed it into the sea. ^^

I've never heard that story. *sniffsniff* I like it! ^-^ I totally agree, though. There was story I read about chickens who can understand that their babies are being taken away from them. And then I read a story earlier today about using a goat to lead sheep into the slaughter place. People can be so creul!!! I may not always get the right products, but I can try and make a difference by trying, right? ^.~

mikazuki
06-12-2004, 09:55 PM
Ok, having raised farm animals myself any story you hear about "mama chickens knowning their babies are being taken from them" is false. Yes, hens are protective of their chicks but they don't realize when one or more is missing. If you take their chicks from them (and I have to protect the chicks from their mothers killing them) they can become broody again and once again start the process of laying, sitting and hatching eggs.

I raised champion chickens and ducks and loved my animals but I've also killed them, plucked them and gut them for dinner. It's life and while it can suck an animal is still an animal for either eating, using to making life easier (such as horses and ox were used in farming) or wearing.

I've also raised champion rabbits for show, food and their pelts. It's not cruel to raise them as such but it IS cruel to do what PETA did to a chicken ranch a few years back - turn off their ventulation which in turn strangled over 30,000 chickens in less then two hours. MANY of those chickens were still alive when the farmer returned home and they had to be put down because there was no way to save them.

BTW - Growing crops can be just as bad as raising livestock. For every acre used in agriculture animals lose their habitat. Where I live due to the farming wild minuature rabbits are near extinction with less then 30 remaining. Attempts to breed them in captivity have failed and by the end of this decade those rabbits will be extinct all thanks to farming.

The Amazon rainforest is quickly disappearing as well due to farming. Forests are being destroyed for farming (and logging). Plants, animals, reptiles are disappearing including species not yet discovered (and yes new animal species are discovered yearly) all thanks to farming. So as you can see there are always two sides to a story.

miaka2u
06-12-2004, 10:06 PM
Blah, blah, blah. -_- This is a topic about cruelty-free cosmetics. If you aren't interested in cruelty-free then don't bother...

Anyways, I'm glad some people care enough about animals to post this thread and let us know what's good and what's not. Thanks again JunJun! ^-^ Love-u love-u! <3

JunJun
06-12-2004, 10:28 PM
Please don't criticize Mikazuki, Miaka. She has very valid points, and many many people believe the same way.
I do think PETA is very extreme. I don't approve of all of their methods. I do think, however, that antagonistic groups do need to exist to seed out said bad eggs.
The companies on those lists i mentioned only test where they are not legally obligated to, by the way. Pre-human, if you will, testing IS necessary in a lot of fields; medicine especially.
With something like cosmetics, it is generally not necessary to test on animals, because we have such a great understanding of what does and does not harm people. I'm not touting the virtues of not-testing, i'm simply helping people who want to know know.
I greatly respect people who can raise animals and slaughter them for food. You have to get over attachments to pets, in many cases. I couldn't do it!
I know the implications of completely boycotting animal testing. I surely can't do it. I dig toilet paper and toothpaste. Its only because the option exists that i do it when i can.
A lot of people ask, well, if you were in a situation where you only had meat to eat, would you?? Of course i would.
I also get the argument, well, companies are gonna kill animals for food anyway, so you're not saving any. And its true. But its my choice to go along with my personal convictions and not eat meat. I usually tell these people, people are going to make porn no matter what, so you're not stopping the production by not buying it. They usually shut up. (it seems to be bible thumpers that make this argument with me, so that's why the porn thing works).

Anyway, I would prefer that we not get snotty to one another about this. I simply wanted to make an information thread for people who found interest in companies that do not test products on animals.

miaka2u
06-12-2004, 10:35 PM
And I totally respect her view, just like I've learned to deal with my family criticizing me about my views. But, honestly, this was to talk about cruelty-free products not to put down us because we wanted to list a few of them.

All the same, if I hurt anyone's feelings I'm sincerely sorry. ^-^

mikazuki
06-12-2004, 10:49 PM
Miaka2u - I understand that you are a vegetarian and there is nothing wrong with that EXCEPT when people make claims it's better. It's not. Really, if you think about it EVERYTHING we do as a human society is selfish and damning to animals. EVERYTHING.

We take land from animals for recreational use, to farm, to build houses, to build streets, etc, etc.

We use animals in testing of things - cosmetics, medicine and other applications (including in the past sending animals into outer space).

We destroy countless animals and their habitats that many cannot recover. I mourn the loss of fish in the Japanese sea that once were caught as full adults but now only the juveniles are caught. I mentioned those rabbits whom will be extinct in less then ten years because of development for houses, farming and even commercials sites (including WalMart).

I hate it when people condemn certain things yet at the same time FAIL to realize that their way ALSO condemns animals. Yes, raising chickens then slaughtering them a few weeks later is horrible (I still eat chicken) but destroying acres of land that once held wildlife just to grow crops is also horrible.

That is my point. If you're going to boycott something think of ALL the aspects of what you are boycotting. Even if you don't use a product that has been tested on an animal you're still using a product that had to be manufactured which means the land animals once lived on is being used. It's still a no win situation for the animals. So which would be better? Using an animal-free cosmetic or no cosmetic at all?

FoxPhyre
06-13-2004, 02:57 AM
i think i like meat a little too much to be a vegitarian. at least i admit what i am. so many times have i been approached by vegitarians talking all kinds of mess to me about hurting animals and they are supposed to be our friends or something to that effect... like the animals we directly kill for food..
so naturally as a human i hold the same feelings toward friendly makeup as i do veggie burgers...if you are going to do it... do it right... but thats me talking out my ass again.. (damn im tired, and if you were offended, i apologize but thats life)

<EDIT> my main point i guess now that i sit back and think, is that its hard for me to WANT to save the planet when i try and nobody cares... its hard for me to WANT to save the critters because everyone else doesnt care... i notice a lot of veg's doing their thing because they are really wanting attention... like a trendy thing to do... "lets be vegetarians, we'll so get a boyfriend.!.!"

i hope it made sense what i said and nobody is mad.. its just... im....so tired....still got a 30 minute drive ahead of me too before home...

JunJun
06-13-2004, 07:33 AM
Look, this wasn't a thread to debate vegetarianism/veganism. Its about finding products that don't test on animals for people who would like to know. Our beliefs are usually just as well founded as yours, and we've all had them for probably at least a few years, so an argument on a cosplay website isn't likely to change minds.
Thanks.

ZiggyB
06-13-2004, 02:30 PM
JunJun is right.

There's really no reason to debate this. She offered a list of cosmetics that aren't tested on animals. If you choose to get those instead of name brands that may or may not use animal testing, that's your choice. If you don't care, that's your choice.

There's really no reason to argue about this. :)

And for those of you who PMed me about closing this thread, I think that this a perfectly valid thread for cosplay. It is about make-up (we are in the Makeup Technique forum). And if you're a tree hugger (like me) this gives you an option. No one was saying, YOU MUST BUY THESE PRODUCTS OR YOU ARE EVIL! At least, I didn't see it. ;-)

So, ok, let's go back on topic please... let's drop the PETA and vegetarianism arguments. Come on, this is a make-up forum. :)

Thanks, and I hope everyone had a good weekend. :)

Hinata
06-13-2004, 03:13 PM
Thanks, Ziggy-sama. I think MAC is vegan as well as non-tested, so it's safe to buy. Many products that are not tested, still use animal products, so.. ^^;;
also, If you bring in 6 old containers, you get a free lipstick. recycling programs rock.

JunJun
06-13-2004, 03:36 PM
MAC does that?? That's so cool!! I"ll have to start buying their stuff to get free lipstick :) hehee what an awful reason to buy things... I tried one of their shadows the other day shopping and it was nice. they have a really great spectrum of colors.

Thank you Ziggy :) I didn't want the forum closed, just back on the subject. ^_^

HuongStar
06-14-2004, 09:02 AM
Bath & Body Works states that "the finished product is not tested on animals...." :\

P.S. Thanks mikazuki for bringing up those points!

mercsailor
06-21-2004, 05:52 PM
Thanks, Ziggy-sama. I think MAC is vegan as well as non-tested, so it's safe to buy. Many products that are not tested, still use animal products, so.. ^^;;
also, If you bring in 6 old containers, you get a free lipstick. recycling programs rock.

Just a heads up.. While MAC only works with products that aren't tested on animals, they are not Vegan. Their brushes are all natural hairs, not synthetic. So.. no, not Vegan. =) But they are definitely cruelty free.

amberabdul
07-27-2004, 02:36 PM
aww so sweet :) i like that! Im a vegetartian right now xept i dont eat eggs. I cant believe soooo many companies test on animals. So if they dont say cruelty free they propably arnt. Scary. If anyone wants to eat humanely, but still eat dairy, meat, and eggs eat organic valley! All the animals have access to pasture, and are kept inside, sanitary roomy housing if the weather is bad, go to my webbie , http://www.angelfire.com/alt2/feathersandnpopcorn for a link so you can find where the nearest products are to you! I :heart: PETA!!!! :love:

archangeli
07-27-2004, 02:51 PM
Just a heads up.. While MAC only works with products that aren't tested on animals, they are not Vegan. Their brushes are all natural hairs, not synthetic. So.. no, not Vegan. =) But they are definitely cruelty free.

hehe.. thats not completely true either. but it's on a case by case (or brush by brush basis). mose of them are animal hairs (obtained in cruelty free-methods) but there are some that are synthetic hairs. Case and point - MAC 190 foundation brush and 194 concealer brush. And the MAC 192 "Face brush". Since these were designed for use with "creamier" products it doesn't make sense to use natural hairs which would soak up the oil.

but yes - their Back 2 MAC recycling program is awesome! If you bring in 6 emties (plastic, glass, lipsticks) you get a free lipstick (with the exception of the Viva Glam ones which are a charity lipstick). it's fun :)

fireyillusion
10-27-2004, 03:45 AM
John Fredia and bed head claim to not test on animals either. Also Purology is a great line of hair care that is 100% vegan yeah!
as for makeup I love hardcandy, revlon, too faced, emani and victoria principle all are animal friendly.
Doll Face beauty cocktails is another great skin care line, their alittle on the pricey side so I usually use Burts Bee's or victoria principle.

I'm so glad I came across this thead. It's nice to see people that share an interest cruelty free cosplay and daily living :)

Alleria
10-27-2004, 01:34 PM
I don't think anyone has pointed this out, but on the first post, it says that Bath and Body Works doesn't test on animals.

I'd like to clarify this.
If you read the label it says, "final product is not tested on animals"
The final product isn't, but that doesn't mean that the ingredients weren't tested. And the truth is, they are. I don't remember the list off the top of my head, but a few of the ingredients *are* tested on animals.

I just needed to point that out, so that people can decide if they do trust bath and body works, or decided not to use the products. It's always good to have the whole story.

archangeli
11-10-2004, 11:27 AM
Urban Decay's makeup brushes are completely synthetic and "cruelty free"

leelee
11-13-2004, 04:25 PM
I always prefer to support companies that do not test on animals! Cosmetics companies are not required to test on animals, so why should they? Its already known what formulas do and do not evoke reactions upon skin. Its not always evident who does and who does not test! Even if a bottle says, does not test, that doesn't mean that applies to every ingredient.

Here is a list of cosmetics companies who have either signed PETAs statement of assurance, or meet the Corporate Standard of Compassion for Animals. This means that they really don't test!
Here is the full list (http://www.caringconsumer.com/page/CompaniesDont.pdf). I've listed things i know to be cosmetics related, but the list is huge! Go check it out.
Almay (Revlon)
Aloette Cosmetics
Aramis (Estee Lauder)
Aunt Bee's Skin Care
Aveda
Avon
Bath & Body Works
BeautiControl
Beauty Naturally
Beauty without Cruelty
Bobbi Brown (Estee Lauder)
The Body Shop
Bumble & Bumble (Estee Lauder)
Clinique Laboratories
Color Me Beautiful
Columbia Cosmetics
Concept Now Cosmetics
Crabtree & Evelyn (they make nice lotions...mmm)
Donna Karan Beauty Company (Estee Lauder)
Dr.Bronners!!! I <3 Dr.Bronners!!
Estee Lauder
Giovanni Cosmetics
Hard Candy
Jane (Estee Lauder)
Juice Beauty
Kiehl's (hair products, i think. Boyfriends sister uses it)
Kiss My Face
Liz Claybourne Cosmetics
MAC Cosmetics
Manic Panic
Mary Kay Cosmetics
Merle Norman
Nivea
Nordstrom Cosmetics
OPI (yay for hardcore nail polish)
Paul Mitchell
Revlon
Studio Magic Cosmetics
Tommy Hilfiger (Estee Lauder)
Too Faced Cosmetics
Urban Decay
Warm Earth Cosmetics

Here is a list (http://www.caringconsumer.com/page/CompaniesDo.pdf) of companies who DO test on animals. (and a link).
Arm & Hammer
Church & Dwight
Clairol
Colegate/Palmolive
Cover Girl
Dial
Gilette (currently suspended testing, but not signed permanently)
Johnson & Johnson
Kimberly Clark
L'Oreal
Max Factor
Olay/Oil of Olay
Pantene
Pfizer
Playtex (not cosmetics, but important to the ladies)
Procter & Gamble
Sally Hansen
Schering-Plough (Dr.Scholl's, Coppertone)
SC Johnson
Soft Soap
Suave
Unilever (Lever soap, etc)

I hope these lists are helpful to some of you! It always kind of irks me that the big huge companies that are hard to avoid are on the "do test" list. There's no reason! Look at all the companies who get along really well with no testing. Oh, i know St.Ives doesn't test, but i didn't see them on either list. I heart St.Ives. I super reccomend Dr.Bronners soap, its wonderful! Even my local grocery carries it now, so i dont' even have to trek to a health food store! Its pure hemp castille soap, and it comes in many herbal varieties (Peppermint is my favorite right now... menthol all over makes you feel so nice and tingly and clean! Lavender is also really nice, its relaxing). It comes in liquid, bar, etc.
Cruelty free! hehehe. :dance:




Sacha Cosmetics is another Company that do not test on animals

Chibi Ice Wolf
11-23-2004, 02:40 PM
Well, I became a vegan after reading PETA stuff. O.O But I'm not a fan of theirs anymore (I still use their cookbook sometimes, though lol) I assumed almost everybody didn't animal test anymore, and I don't use much in the way of cosmetics, so I kind of forgot about that. Next time I go shopping for that sort of thing I'll look for the brands you guys mentioned...

Way back when I was first learned about animal testing, I used my own money to buy a bunch of natural, cruelty-free cleaning products and cleaned the whole house with it while my mom was gone. Happy to see the house clean, sure, but afterwards she tried to use the stuff. She hates it now! >.<

I used to us Tom's of Maine stuff but my parents made me stop. Funny story, about the natural crystal deodorant! >.< I used that for like a month, but my friends and family admitted to me that it DID NOT WORK and I smelled awful! T.T So embarrassing!

Oh I second Burt's Bee's in that the products are wonderful and SMELL wonderful! It's kinda weird when you want to eat the stuff you're washing your face with! I haven't bought any in a while though, because I use perscription acne stuff now, which smells awful, bleh. The lip balm is so nice and refreshing!!

Romann
11-24-2004, 08:43 PM
Be it really late to respond, but Mikazuki, that post was damn important. Though many people may not want to admit it, many everyday items are tested on animals and people are using them without knowledge of that.

LiLsweetE
11-24-2004, 11:40 PM
Does sephora carry most of these brands listed??