View Full Version : Sephiroth Facial Make-Up Help
06-17-2004, 05:10 PM
Hello everyone. As a lot of you may know, I am cosplaying Sephiroth for Anime Expo 2004, which is in 2 weeks. I have everything down except one thing... facial make-up. Now, I am a woman, and I would really like to look as much like Sephiroth (a.k.a. look as masculine) as I can. The thing is, I know nearly nothing about make-up, except for the rare use of Neutrogena concealer when I have to attend formal and/or special events. I tried looking through the threads here, and I even got a few books from my local library describing techniques used for stage and photography make-up. I tried my best to completely understand everything that I read (between concealer and foundation and powder and cake and... whew...), but since I have barely any background in the make-up field (especially female-to-male make-up), I was at a loss.
The skin complexion that I have is not pale, nor is it tan. It's somewhat in the middle, and I have brown hair and brown eyes if that helps at all.
In a final attempt at getting information and tips on how to achieve this, I turn to the make-up professionals on the boards. This is a "Gender Make-Up for Dummies" scenario as you can tell, and I am in desperate need of help. In the attachment, I have provided a frontal face shot of Sephiroth to help you decide what I need, where to highlight / with what, etc. I need help figuring out:
What kind of make-up to buy and what colors? (a.k.a. shopping list)
Where to highlight on my face to get the Sephiroth masculinity look
Just so you know, I will be wearing this make-up all day one of the days at AX, with an occassional touch-up time. Also, I would like to achieve those Asian-type eyes of his (yes, I have looked at the thread already made for that) but, again, "Make-Up for Dummies" scenario. XD
Please, I ask you for any help you can give me. Remember, I barely have any experience with make-up. I thank you in advance!
06-17-2004, 08:32 PM
I find the best way to look more masculine is to outline your jaw-line and cheek bone by using a slightly darker skin-tone coloured foundation, even eye shadow works. I'd also reccomend picking up an eyebrow/eyeliner penicel to fill in your eyebrows, and give them a grey-ish tint. I also noticed he had a little grey on his eye-lids, so you might want to appy a little eye-liner. I'm not sure how, but I would see if someone knows how to down-play the size of your lips a little, that might really help.
Overall though, for the masculine look, concentrate more on basic, primary make-up and not a lot else. I really can't help with the Asian-eyes, sorry.
06-17-2004, 10:58 PM
Thanks for your information, Chocochick. I picked up both a white and silver eyeliner pencil to fill in my eyebrows, and they work just fine. ^_^ What do you suggest to use for the shading, foundation or eyeshadow (which is better), since you gave two ideas?
06-17-2004, 11:54 PM
I recommend the more creme based eye-shadow, the kind that's solid but a little moist. This kind of eye-shadow is much easier to blend and will stay on much longer than foundation or the powdery kind of eye-shadow. Also, since this kind usually comes in a pack with other colours, you can experiment a little. From what you described, we both have the same general look (brown hair, brown eyes, the in-between skin colour), and a darker brown colour tends to work best.
06-18-2004, 01:44 AM
I'd recommend doing a google search for Takarazuka images and practicing duplicating the makeup from one of those pictures. The makeup style they use for the otokoyaku (male role specialists. actresses trained to play male roles in the revue performances) is particularly well-suited for making girls look like anime-style guys.
Here's one poster from the Cosmos Troupe's Rose of Versailles. It's also a good shot for comparison between "male" and "female" makeup. The lipstick on this leading male is red, but they generally go for a nude shade.
06-18-2004, 04:10 PM
Cream-based eyeshadow, darker brown color. Okay, got it. Any specific brand names that you would suggest?
And wow, thank you so much for that fatwetdog! ^_^ I'll certainly look into that.
EDIT: *looks through Google* Is there a site that gives the techniques used, or a demonstration? All I am finding is the history, several [small] photos, and so-forth and so-on.
06-18-2004, 04:55 PM
I use a lot of Mabelline for some reason, but really it doesn't matter.
06-18-2004, 05:31 PM
Maybelline eh? Hmm... okay. Oh, I was thinking... would eyeliner pencil work for shading, too? I mean, when you think about it... the pencil would give you a more-precise line for accentuating jawbones and cheekbones, right?
06-18-2004, 05:57 PM
The pencil would give you a very precise line, but possibly more of a line than a shadow. For stage makeup a darker shade of cream eyeshadow or "contour" works well for shading. (Ben Nye also sells a starting kit for stage makeup that has a foundation, a highlighting contour cream, a lowlighting contour cream, a loose powder, and a nude lipstick suitable for men or women on stage. It's about $20 (or was in 97) and works well for stage stuff.)
If I'm just going to be walking around a con, I normally just do contouring things with my normal blush. It's a tan color, not a pink, so it works for that. I just throw it under the cheekbones and under the jaw, and then run a bit of light eyeshadow (I use Mac's Orb or Lorac's Beige, but any light eyeshadow works) right under each eyebrow, straight down the nose, on the tip of the nose (to turn it up), along the tops of the cheekbones and the jawbone, between the eyebrows, and on my chin. That way it's subtle enough not to show clear lines or makeup from close up, but still does the contouring it's supposed to. Then I just apply the eyeliner & mascara and such as I like.
Hm. I'm not sure about the Takarazuka images. I don't think I've seen a site for makeup tips. I've seen some people cosplaying Takarazuka characters, but those sites are in Japanese and don't give instructions. In general they try to play up the outer corner of the eye, drawing the line of the eye out and up. The lips are generally nude and the top lip is done normally, with the lower lip de-emphasized. The lower lipstick starts about 1/4" from the corner, and ends at the same point, and does not go down to the bottom of the lipline.
06-18-2004, 06:16 PM
Hmm, I didn't know Ben Nye sold a starting kit. But with two weeks until the con, do you think I'd get it in time for the con, and also to practice with it? XD
I just don't want the makeup being overwhelmingly... well... makeup-y. Oily, and all that (I don't have oily skin, but you know what I mean). And I don't want to spend so much time in front of the mirror. I mean, yes, I 'want' to get this right, but just puting on the costume itself takes a rather long while.
Maybe I'll just bring a brownish-tint blush, my silver and white eyeliner pencils, and some other things... like a dark-brown/black eyeliner pencil for my eyes. Or do you suggest mascara instead? I just don't want to get messy. XD
06-18-2004, 06:37 PM
Well, if your trying to look more masculine, I don't think mascara is going to help, but Fatwetdog really knows what she's talking about. Like she said though, you wouldn't want to use a pencil since you want more of a shadow.
06-18-2004, 07:03 PM
By mascara I meant to draw the "Asian eyes", not for feminine purposes. XD
06-18-2004, 07:27 PM
You mean like using it to pull your lashes more to the left/right?
06-18-2004, 07:33 PM
*nods* Yes, that is what I meant. To "draw" the eye contours.
EDIT: Jeez, my bad... I meant eyeliner, NOT mascara. Don't I feel stupid XP.
06-30-2004, 09:28 PM
thanks for the tips :bigtu: i'm going to cosplay solid snake *macho crossplay* and one of the problems was the makeup... now i know what to do... thanks a lot!
07-01-2004, 04:37 PM
I've done more stage-makeup than I have done makeup for cosplay, but the same principles apply. I've played a number of men on stage, so I'll let you know what I would do given your situation.
Pick up a foundation in your skin color and one slightly darker (maybe by 2 shades). Get some of those triangle sponge makeup applicators (found in any drugstore in a big bag). Use your natural color for a base, and then deepen parts of your face with the contrast. Men tend to have, as has been stated, more pronounced jawlines. So go around and blend the darker shake along and under your jaw a bit. Also, men have typically more pronounced cheekbones (women have rounder faces, stereotypically). So try a few times blending the contrast shade starting at your cheekbones and blend down, creating a defined almost hollow cheek look. You can play with blending and the darkness of the shade to get to a point where it is the color you desire. Also, it couldn't hurt to do the same along your temples, starting at the hairline and working in a line toward your brow, blending as with the cheeks. This will "thin" out your round face and give you a manly brow/temple.
It may be tricky, but my biggest tip is follow your own bone structure. If you feel a bone (brow, cheek, even chin) try to accentuate it and make it stand out more. TOO much, and you may start looking like an ugly man, so use your best judgement.
That, and what everyone else said. Feel free to experiment with what works for sephiroth.