View Full Version : Is CN Anime an OK con?

07-11-2004, 07:58 PM
Hello all...

Not too long ago I didn't know squat.

But this year I went to March TAC, Ad Astra, Anime North and Tor Trek (so far). I really saw a big attitude difference between corp run (TAC) and fan run.

I assumed people here preferred fan organized events and now I'm very surprised about so many people being all excited about CNA. Maybe because there are no more fan-run events for the rest of the year in the GTA (or are they?) Or maybe CNA is somehow different than TAC, even when run by the same people? Is their masquerade under the divisional system?

I've never been to CNA so I'm just trying to understand where does it fit in the big scheme of things....

Thanks alll


07-11-2004, 08:10 PM
Well, I haven't done much at CNA, though I've been there... twice, I think. It's kinda like TAC socially, but it's definitely much better than TAC. Coz there are more things to do :) But there are a lot of people who don't like CNA as well... Ionno, maybe others can put more insight into this.

As for the masquerade, I think the division system is much like Animenorth's... I think.

Amy the Yu
07-11-2004, 08:36 PM
Seed's pretty accurate with the social aspect. Well, the cosplayers lounging in the lobby is similar but on a much larger scale.

CN's got it's good parts that are well above AN, and it has it's downside that don't compare.

CN's the other con aside from AN that the fans will freak over. Large event, but while it's bigger than AN, it's not just anime, so anime fan reaction tends to be in favour of AN, and sci-fi fan reaction tends to be in favour of Toronto Trek.

It's 4 cons in one, so if you're just an anime fan, it's not as good as AN, but if you also like other stuff like sci-fi, comics, or horror (I'm a huge Buffy fan), it's an awesome con with all the guests and stuff.

The only down side's that the con sells almost all the tickets at the door, so I really recommend buying a ticket from Ticketmasters ahead of time and then you only need to wait 10 mins in the advance ticket line, instead of the 3 hour line with the other people.

Also take note that different passes allows you entry into only certain events. The Anime pass is the "deluxe pass" that allows you into everything except for one or two events (you need to buy tickets and pay extra for those seperately). Those events tend to be sci-fi though.

The masquerade is usually amazing cause the setting is so much better. Last year, masq was on the same stage as Canadian Idol. So amusing to see the giant logo with cosplayers walking over it.

Also, there's the anime on the big screen event and there are actual all night events...not just middle of the night hentai screenings in a small video room.

Normally, I prefer AN over CN, but since AN was quite dissappointing compared to previous years, CN might actually out-do AN this year.

07-12-2004, 12:52 AM
I haven't bothered going to CN for a couple of years, but know people who do. In my experience it's built on the comic-convention model, which is more about a gigantic dealers' room and guest autographs and not much else. They've slowly been adding fan-oriented content, but so far I have been underwhelmed by their attention to what the fans want as opposed to what the corporate sponsors want. I go to cons mostly for the programming, so I don't find much that appeals to me at CN. It all depends on what you want out of a con.

07-12-2004, 08:30 AM
ive gone to cna anime for the last 3 years. the events and what not are really only accsessable if you spend the 40 bucks for the weekend pass. but other than that its a really well run con

07-12-2004, 08:50 AM
I've been going to CN for the past 4 years and I do see some improvement over my first experience. I think it's the atmosphere dowtown compared to around the airport that gets me hyper about it lol

07-12-2004, 09:24 AM
Thanks all for your comments.
As for me going there... there are two possible scenarios:

- IF they get me a dealer's table, of course I'll be there strutting my wares. (I'm on waiting list at the moment).

- IF the table doesn't materialize.... I'll try to show up there on saturday at least to say hi to people.

I figure the only way to get my own impression of the con is by being there.

Thanks all again....


07-12-2004, 10:07 AM
oooo if u get a table dani....awesome!!!


i will have to bother u oodles...they must give u a table LOL
*shakes fist*

and i agree...

CNA will probably be better than AN this year..

CN is a fun con because there's lots of variety...but the anime section is fairly huge. It's been getting much better over the years...and the masquerade last year was darn impressive :D

Akira Kenshin
07-12-2004, 11:28 PM
i've only been to CN once but it was pretty good and they let everyone lounge around UNLIKE mTAC (omfg).

The dealer's room is quite impressive though, its absolutely HUGE with tons of anime stuff and did i mention a nice inexpesnvei WEAPONS STORE (Also weapons are waving everywhere at CN so no stupid AN rules that bash ur pointed edges in and all).

CN is where I met a bunch of people, so socially it's pretty good, possibly better than AN this year because there was nowhere to sit (who wants to sit on that dank floor) but CN there'es tons of lounging and thus socializing and time to talk and relax. Downtown part = lots of people going O_O o the streets XD

07-13-2004, 01:31 AM
"stupid AN rules".....Um you do realize there are REASONS why AN doesn't allow weapons to be waved around? All it takes is one irresponsible congoer to hurt somebody and it can cause big trouble for the hotel and the con. I'm surprised CN doesn't have a weapons policy (if you are correct), as one would think they'd be worried about liability.

As for lounging, CN and MTAC are run by the same company. So if they were really harsh on lounging at MTAC, chances are they're going to be harsh about it at this CN. I guess they figured out that a lot of people were coming just to hang out and not pay.

07-13-2004, 02:24 AM
I'm the resident CN whore so I have to chime in.

Its a different beast then AN, some people enjoy it more then others. I've been going for about 10 years now and the anime content has grown from a little both to an main component of the convention.

It seems this year they are taking a bigger step and having panels or fan-oriented panels which is excellent (but hopefully it isn't just for anime), along with its video rooms (which were less then steller last year), great dealer's room and masq (minus a Rose... :waaaah: ), plus the people hanging around make it an enjoyable time.

A Con is most enjoyable when you put the right type of energy behind it... I suggest you give CN a twirl... if it floats your boat, come back again... if not, come back again next year and hang with me and the scoobs... we'll fix you up!


07-13-2004, 02:30 AM
I actually found that over the last couple years, the amount of anime merchandise (especially booths that were not 90% DVDs) has gone down at CN. But it's true that they're a lot more lax about the stuff that's sold there. There's greymarket stuff and those weapons booths, which sell some items which are, in fact, illegal in Canada. No one makes a fuss about it, but at least they only sell their items to people over 18.

Even if they have a weapons policy, I've never seen it enforced. Unlike AN, where you have to pick up your weapons merchandise when you leave, you can openly carry around any and all purchases at CN.

A note on the differences with the masquerade: CN's not as concerned with taking care of its attendees, so don't expect greenroom feed and workmanship judging. They still use the same divisional system and wonderful judges, but...well, it's CN. =P Last year's masquerade was made interesting by the complications of using the Canadian Idol stage, which is why there's no official masquerade video/dvd from last year.

For a first time visit, I'd recommend going to see at least a little bit of the all-night anime/karaoke at the Strathcona Hotel.

Oh, and one more thing. Even though Hobbystar runs both CN and MTAC, there are a lot more people at any given time in the main area of CN, so it's a lot harder for them to spot people who don't have a membership. At MTAC, it was obvious who was just sitting around and who'd actually paid to be there. ^^;

Amy the Yu
07-13-2004, 08:40 AM
If I remember correctly from the random speals they give us about the "rules", CN weapon policy is basically like "feel free to go insane unless staff thinks you're getting dangerous".

People seem to be free to have whatever props, unsheath swords (real ones) and all, but if someone starts up a sword fight in crowded areas and looks like (s)he's equally likely to stab someone else as (s)he is to stab himself, staff'll probably push a couple of volunteers (so they don't risk getting hurt themselves) to go stop the moron.

07-13-2004, 12:29 PM
People seem to be free to have whatever props, unsheath swords (real ones) and all, but if someone starts up a sword fight in crowded areas and looks like (s)he's equally likely to stab someone else as (s)he is to stab himself, staff'll probably push a couple of volunteers (so they don't risk getting hurt themselves) to go stop the moron.

That sounds about right! technicall, once you've bought a weapon from the booth, you are supposed to put in in your car or hotel- of course, most people don't have either....
and likewise for the weapons policy- it's actually similar to AN's in the rule department, they just don't have anyone to enforce it.

I'd written a really long reply to this originally, but then the board ate it, so I went to bed, but essentially Dani- the con is 'ok'. Just what you said.
If you can make your own fun and like to socialize, you'll likely have a blast at CN, but if you go and expect to be entertained, you'll be bored.
And the main reason they were so anal about the 'hanging' at MacTac (the nic for the con through my friends) is the church of scientology business thing that was happening down the hall. Apparently, the *convention Centre* itself didn't want the 'little children' (that would be us) interacting with the religious people for... legal reasons. Hence, the security being anal about socializing.

Add in the fact that Silver still misses a major aspect to Canadian Anime Cons, which is the fact that they're social events (or are supposed to be). Silver thinks we go to these to shop, watch anime, shop, meet guests, shop and leave. I think he forgets sometimes that we can buy all the anime merchandise you see in the dealers room in downtown toronto any day of the week, and NOT have to pay 45 bucks for the privelege.

But there are going to be panels this year (See, learning!). A cosplay panel, an AMV panel, and possibly a hall cosplay workmanship judging something....
I hope you get your table! And see you there!

07-15-2004, 07:06 PM
I used to like Anime North the best of all.
I have since changed my mind and have started to enjoy my experiences at CNAX more than AN.
In terms of the actual convention, AN is better because it's strictly Anime.
But I find CNAX excells the most in organization and management.
However, I have been trying to contact some people about working the panels and such this year and no one has responded.

So I'll go on a limb and say CN is the better of the two, but I wouldn't say it's worth the $40 weekend package. I attend the Saturday and pay the Sci-Fi pass price, that's usually more than enough for me.

07-15-2004, 07:16 PM
However, I have been trying to contact some people about working the panels and such this year and no one has responded...
Miss Yhko, if you're really interested in running a panel this year, could you PM me? Pan-Chan and I are pretty much organizing teh Panel section of CNAnime, and would love another volunteer. ^^

07-19-2004, 09:48 PM
I was thinking about maybe attending CN this year... but it would only be for one day, like saturday.

How much is it just to go for one day? ( Can even do that? or would you have to buy a week-end pass?)

07-19-2004, 09:58 PM
You can buy a Sci-Fi, Comic Book, or Horror pass for one day, though the Anime section doesn't have a day pass. (Its stupid, I know) It means you can't get into the viewing rooms, but other than that, you have access to everything else.
Check out here for prices and whatnot: http://www.hobbystar.com/ComicConToronto/CC_Main.asp

07-23-2004, 02:33 AM
Miss Yhko, if you're really interested in running a panel this year, could you PM me? Pan-Chan and I are pretty much organizing teh Panel section of CNAnime, and would love another volunteer. ^^

Yes, join us Vicki! lmao XD I'm not volunteering in the panel stuff because heck I'm too shy to talk in front of people. It's soo intimidating like when you were hosting the panel at AN, I was *blank* as I did not know that much about Miyazaki-san. =X

07-24-2004, 10:14 PM
I foudn that Cn is a different type of fun than AN is , AN for me is usually more so running round to all the events, and meeting people while running around and having fun, the downside of that being that I don't get to slow down enough for some people to catch up.

CN is more so where I go to a bunch of things, but spend a lot more time hanging out and chilling out, talking to people, maybe seeing sci-fi and comic stuff too. THeres a lot less things to do.

Amy the Yu
07-25-2004, 02:18 AM
CN is now good for me cause I'm gonna rewear all my costumes from Otakon since my RO Female Monk that was originally getting retired after the Aug Photoshoot is now going to be group cosplay with Kia and maybe Sarcasm-Hime and whoever else decides to throw together an RO costume for CN.

Oh, Ravnos...dude...I decided I'm dropping the stupid Kaori Yuki thing to work on after CN instead of rushing and I'm making another Tohru costume...gonna be an EGL version of her winter uniform...