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Master1080
09-17-2004, 01:38 PM
UPDATED September 13, 2005:

Origin of Idea: The idea of a Full Metal Alchemist Military Marching Band crossed my mind when talking to my brother about his high school marching band. So I thought "Wouldn't it be cool to have a FMA Military Marching Band?" Too bad I cannot play an instrument. But for those of you who do, this might be a lot of fun.

Types of marching bands/band related groups:

Full Marching Band
Military Jazz Band
Specific Instrument Quartets and/or Quintets
Rifle Spinning Squad
Military Salute Platoon
Flags Team

Gandaulf3
09-17-2004, 03:38 PM
that actually sounds hilarious, that would so freaking awesome if we could get one together.

Number_09
09-19-2004, 11:35 AM
If you guys are gonna be at any of the conventions I wanna go to, I'll seriously consider it. :-)
But what would we play?

Flippy
09-24-2004, 02:40 AM
You should play FMA theme songs....I need to buy the sound track. Oh and random little funny things too.....just for the hell of it. I'll support by being Winry and waving a sign or something....I can't play stuff :(.....just long as I'm present at the con like # 9 says.

AniMajor
09-24-2004, 11:26 AM
I think that'd be groovy. I can play the flute, and if I can convince my brother to do it, he's awesome at the trombone.

If we have people who can't play, they could always be colorguard.

Master1080
09-24-2004, 11:33 AM
Well, if a band seems hard to form there are always other options:

Military Jazz Band (Requires fewer instruments)
Flags Team
Shields Team
Military Choir (Is there an FMA National Anthem?)
Rifle Twirling Squad

Although having only military officers in their uniforms would make it look very impressive, it might not be fun for only them to participate.
Therefore I suggest something like a marching band with Roy as drum major, since he has the gloves, followed Al holding a banner or a shields squad consisting of FMA characters, again followed by Ed's and other military officers with instruments and ending with a squad of Winrys and other female characters twirling flags.
But for this to work, this would require somewhere around 30+ cosplayers.

AniMajor
09-24-2004, 11:47 AM
We'd have to do it at a large enough convention, like Otakon. And we'd have to do it well in advance, and decide what uniforms we were doing, the regular ones, or the dress uniforms, or a new style?

alostblackcat
09-25-2004, 12:01 AM
that would be so awesome

personally i play flute and trombone but i quit band so i took no marching band

i would so love that

Inamichan
09-25-2004, 02:09 AM
I could add to the Winry flag squad. :P

Number_09
09-25-2004, 11:36 PM
I don't think I can ever make it to Otakon. u_u
The only cons. I go to are in Toronto and the surrounding areas.... Sadly.

Number_09
09-26-2004, 03:31 PM
A minimal marching band (To my limited knowledge) would need the following:

1 piccolo
4 flutes
3 clarinets
2 alto saxes
2 tenor saxes
1 bari sax (Optional... So very optional)
3 trumpets
3 'bones
2 baritone
1 tuba/soussaphone

I may have missed something... But that's what's on the average score.

Flippy
09-26-2004, 05:21 PM
I could add to the Winry flag squad. :P
Ohhh lets do it otakon!! I'd be in the flag squad....that doesn't sound to hard.

Number_09
09-26-2004, 07:01 PM
where and when is Otakon?

Flippy
09-26-2004, 07:36 PM
It's in baltimore on the last weekend of August....it's really big!!!!!

janmurphy
09-27-2004, 11:11 PM
Just dont walk down the streets in formation, Im fuzzy on the numbers that have to be involved, but its considered a parade, which you need a licsence for in some places. There was a stormtrooper crew that did that and got fined.
You could find some cosplayers that look like hero types, or mercs and stage an Eastern Revolt.

Inamichan
09-27-2004, 11:21 PM
Ohhh lets do it otakon!! I'd be in the flag squad....that doesn't sound to hard.

LMAO that would be hilarious. xD I don't know if I'm taking Winry to Otakon this time around (although I find myself itching to do something besides Gravitation xD), but next year (ahem. yes. 2006. so I plan early, shaddup!)... >.>

AniMajor
09-28-2004, 12:17 AM
Oye, 22 people in a marching band, that'd be hard to get together, expecially if we decided to get a flag squad of at least 4 Winrys and maybe a colorguard of 4 Eds. That'd be a huge group, and we'd have to decide on what kind of costumes we were doing, and we'd have to agree on stuff like material color so we look the same. However, we would look awesome in a masquerade.

Then again, Otakon's a little less than a year away, we have time to decide this stuff.

And, if we can't do it, there's always the military string quartet. Or maybe the bugle squad. Or some drummer boys.

Oh, I almost forgot, we'd also have to have a director to lead the band and keep us all together.

Number_09
09-28-2004, 03:50 PM
Oh, geez... I forgot all abput the percussion section! *dodges pinty percussion toys*
So, including drummers, that would probably add 3 or 4 more to the ranks...

Doing this in masquerade would be sooooooo cool. Heehee.

AniMajor
09-28-2004, 06:02 PM
I know that we can get away with not having a piccolo, I know my high school marching band didn't have one, we also didn't have any baritones, and only two trombones. For the percussion we'd need at least a bass drum, two snares, and a quad.

We'd also need to get a show together, and probably practice on the Thursday before Otakon, and possibly whenever everyone's free on Friday, and again before the masquerade. It couldn't be really complicated, we might be able to pull off a transmutation circle formation. We'd also need to figure out the music, and the order of everyone in formation before the con, and make adjustments if someone has to drop out.

On a side note, we could have the director be King Bradley. Although, I might not trust a guy with no depth perception to lead a marching band.

Master1080
09-28-2004, 06:26 PM
Will Otakon actually allow 22 people on stage (or wherever the masquarade is held)?

Oh well. I cannot make it there. It is on the other side of the country. Best place on the West Coast is Anime Expo but then masquarades are limited to 8 and they have a rule that all sound should be prerecorded. (This might actually be a good thing since we can just record a real band playing and not have to have all the instruments).

So having a sax, some drums, a flute, a trumpet, a trombone, a tuba should cover all if not most of the sounds a regular band makes.

Speaking of King/Fuhrer Bradley, it would be a fun sight to see the Sins playing instruments or twirling flags.

AniMajor
09-29-2004, 02:45 PM
I'll have to check about the Otakon skit stuff. If we can't do that, I wonder if we could be in the DragonCon parade. It'd make much more sense.

Alexia Ishtar
09-29-2004, 02:53 PM
I'll have to check about the Otakon skit stuff. If we can't do that, I wonder if we could be in the DragonCon parade. It'd make much more sense.

oooo a marching band! That sounds like a wicked cool idea, (forgive me, I'm running on 3 hours of sleep)

I play the flute and the piccolo, sound's like a great idea if we could get it together.

AniMajor
09-29-2004, 04:07 PM
Okay, I just checked Otakon's masquerade rules. They allow for 12 people in a group. Which means we have to cut out more than half of the full band. Which means, if we were still going to have flag corps and colorguard, we'd end up with something like the following list:

2 Trombones
2 Trumpets
3 Drums
3 Woodwinds
2 Colorguard/Flag Corps

This is, of course, if one of the players was director, or we didn't have one all together.

I'll get back to everyone about the DragonCon parade, although I don't think it'd be a problem for us if they can put the entire 501st in it.

Number_09
09-30-2004, 02:31 PM
What about a brass quintet?

5 brass
~ 2 trumpets
~ 1 french horn
~ 1 'bone
~ 1 tuba
(That's what we had at my school last year for the brass quintet.)
1 bass drum
2 snare
3 colourgaurd
1 director
= 12

AniMajor
10-01-2004, 03:11 PM
We might have to go with the parade idea, just because I know it would sound better, and if someone screws up, it's not that big of deal. That, and more people can join. We might, however, need to get a tally of who can and is willing to play what. That way we know who we need to get to play, and whether we can make this work.

So, who plays what?

pyrosam
10-01-2004, 03:16 PM
I was in marching band for like 2 years... it was fun "this one time at band camp..." but yeah it would be hard, even to march correctly thats why you take like a week or two in summer to teach all the n00bs how... and people need to play while marching somehow.... so yeah, I play trumpet but! I live in florida... *stupid hurricanes*.... anyway good luck to ya

Satoru.
10-19-2004, 12:53 AM
Well, if a band seems hard to form there are always other options:

Military Jazz Band (Requires fewer instruments)
Flags Team
Shields Team
Military Choir (Is there an FMA National Anthem?)
Rifle Twirling Squad


Not sure if anyone is still interested in this, but here's another option. A platoon of military personnel doing salutes and movements. Kinda like a shields, flags, or drill team but just using your body and hands. I got the idea from my high school marching band field show competitions. {For those who know, think of the awards part where the school's band leaders are arranged in a semi-circle and when they accept their awards.} I know it's kinda hard to imagine, so if anyone else can help, I'd be very grateful.

Say you have 5 people marching in line with a snare to keep tempo. At a certain point, "mark time" (stopped but feet still moving), spread out, beat out a cadence, do an action down the line in sccession, do more actions, end with salute, hold, form a column again, march off.

This is just a rough idea. I could probably flesh it out if there's interest in doing it, perhaps at Anime Expo 2005. Sorry for all the technical terms, been using the thesaurus for writing essays again. :chatah:

Number_09
10-19-2004, 03:56 PM
Hey, I know EXACTLY what you're talking about.

What you're talking about is, from what I understand, a drill team.
I guess we would march into cool formations, do some standing drill (American or British style? I'm only familliar with British...) and maybe some cool riffle and flag stuff. ^_^ Sorry if I don't make sense, I'm watching TV.

Altus
10-31-2004, 05:05 PM
I know exactly what you mean too. I am the drum major of my school's marching band and a drill team doing a salute like that would be great.

On a side note, if people would rather do a marching band or something, I also play trumpet.

I currently have an ed costume made. If anyone here was at Anime Reactor you may have seen me.

If neccessary, I also have an all-american style mace that i use for salutes (and i am somewhat proficient with it). That may be kind of cool to use.

ACen might also be a good con to do this at becaus eit is right in the middle of the US so it may be more accessible to people.

Master1080
11-02-2004, 01:15 AM
Salutes actually sounds like a great idea, especially since I currently have no talent with musical instruments. We also need to find someone with a loud voice or a loudspeaker/megaphone to do the drilling. I can imagine it now: "All right you dogs of the military! Attennnnn-tion!!!! March! Left! Right! blah.... blah...."

Also, people participating in the marching band or performing squads should really consider using strong fabric and string in the costume. All those movements could do a lot of damage to your costume and probably make it smell from all that moving around.

Master1080
12-14-2004, 06:13 PM
With the Rose Parade just around the corner, I thought why not take advantage of and have a photoshoot of with the Rose Parade floats?

However, walking around in costume with a lot or normal people around might not be a good idea but after reading stories around the forums, some cosplayers take pleasure in doing stuff like this. Any thoughts or comments?

Kagome9
12-15-2004, 10:54 AM
I would so love to do this! I don't know where DragonCon is but I'm going to Otakon this year for sure. I play quads in my high school marching but I also play snare and bass, I think this would be an awesome thing to do at a con

Number_09
12-16-2004, 08:24 PM
A drill squad would be cool but I don't think I'd be able to make it to an American con. :-(

And just to point out, I think there are differences in the drill movements/positions between American style and the British/Canadian style. *shrug*

chibi_kitsune
12-17-2004, 01:10 AM
I play the flute I was also on color/winter it's like a flag team but do more things like use rifles and sabres ( thier not real, it was for the high school I went to), but I wasn't planning on a Full Metal Alchemist costume right now ( if I was to make one I'll be Edward Elric) and I live nowhere near Otakon. But that does cool though.

Videl-chan
01-01-2005, 07:59 PM
I am trying to get ahold of watching FMA, but just hearing about doing a Marching Band makes me nostlagic. I would love to participate. I was first chair trumpet and french horn at my old school. So hopefully I can see this series, but other than that if you don't need me as an instrumentalist (sp? ^.^;), I would be more than happy to help out with any technical stuff since I was (long story) asst. drum major.

Devi Dark Wolf
01-03-2005, 01:39 PM
This sounds like a hilarious idea, if not for the fact that my costume won't be done until Anime Expo in July, and that I don't play an instrument. I can march, though.

Devi

ohhgeezitshey
01-23-2005, 01:11 AM
^^ it would be awesome to see something like that. ive watched my cuzin conduct a marching band a few times and it would be interesting to see it done based on FMA :) id like to get a few pictures of this event if you guys dont mind!

Izumimon
01-24-2005, 02:30 AM
Wow, this sounds like wicked fun, and I'm going to Otakon as Hawkeye. XD

I was the band major for many a year in cadets...ah, memories...

Gainax Boy
02-16-2005, 05:00 PM
This sounds awesome ^_^

I'd love to be a part of it. I've got 4 years marching band experience playing Trumpet, French Horn, and Drum Corps.

AshleyV
02-16-2005, 05:28 PM
A flag squad and riffle team sounds awesome! I have been in color guard/flag team for 7 years. I am very knowledge in flag, riffle, and sabre. I have also marched in drum corps, taught high schools, and have done it in college.

tempest_strife
02-21-2005, 04:03 PM
OOOOOOOHHHHH!!!! I can't wait!! I have been part of my high school marching band for four years now. I can play flute and piccolo. I'm cosplaying as Sloth. (Marching in a dress should be interesting...)

We can play some simple stuff like "Anchors Away", or a patriotic melodie (I'm a yankee doodle dandy/she's a grand old flag, I tjhink) I know our band has music for... I could borrow the parts and scan them in for everyone....

We can always march pretty, with a cadence, then turn and stop in a good place to play so people don't get angry at us....

Yueyume
02-21-2005, 08:34 PM
Who's gonna be drum major? XD oooo cadence! we must twirl our flutes xD

tempest_strife
02-21-2005, 08:48 PM
No no no!! Twirling flutes is bad!! You might drop them!

*Apologises again to her poor, manhandled Armstrong flute.....

Usually in parades for my band there is no drum major. My band director just gives the battery a signal to stop the cadance the next time through and start a rolloff.

Hagaren
02-21-2005, 10:11 PM
Best. Idea. Ever.

Yueyume
02-22-2005, 08:46 PM
hahaha but it looks really awesome if everyone does it together! ^^ But I understand the pain of a damaged flute, it hurts my heart when my flute gets scratched. XDDD

chibi_kitsune
02-24-2005, 01:12 PM
hahaha but it looks really awesome if everyone does it together! ^^ But I understand the pain of a damaged flute, it hurts my heart when my flute gets scratched. XDDD


Haha, same here. I got yelled at by the teacher once cause a few days before my concert I droped my flute and had to get it repaird. But I couldn't blame the band teacher getting mad though cause I also had to play a solo and a duet in the concert :thumbsup: . But in the end it turned out o.k. but I always seem to end up damaging it, I really sould take better care of my stuff.

tempest_strife
02-24-2005, 04:00 PM
My Armstrong is older than I am. My mother got it when she was about 8... and she's almost 50 now. At one point the foot piece was really loose and I decided to twirl it in the middle of a concert (the beggining band in middle school was playing, and the advanced band was sitting behind them; I was in the advanced band at the time). The foot piece flew off twards the beggining band! It didn't go to far though, and I retrieved it in-between songs.

My Armstrong has sooo many scratches. Bumping into tubas, needing to be put down on concrete in band camp (we use the parking lot for band camp... all of the other fields are booked, plus chalk or soap makes marking spots easier), falling off chairs, being flipped into the air by the tip of a flag during champioships(that was this year, they got it on the tape; the amazing part is that I caught it without looking somehow...), and the occasional tap of a metal music stand. Yeah... at this point, the flute needs it's third set of cork. All of the pieces fell off during the course of marching season this year. Oh, did I mention we've played in rain?

My mother's Gemeinheardt is great though. It sounds.... sweeter compared to the Armstrong, and the keys have better action. She's letting me use it untill I get cork for my Armstrong. It's open hole! :) I have only two plugs left to remove... And it only has a few scratches... and a little dent in the head piece... I loose sleep over that at night. She lent it to me for a concert and it bumped into a stand.

*has sudden urge to polish her flutes AGAIN to make up for it all*

My Gemeinheardt ebony piccolo is perfect though.... I should go put some bore oil in it after I polish the other flutes...

some lost guy
02-26-2005, 06:16 PM
I can play any percussion insturment (mainly quint toms) I'm in! lol if I even knew when this would be, if I could borrow my schools quints, and if I could even go. I know alot of cadences though ^_^';

Kagome9
02-26-2005, 09:46 PM
I can play any percussion insturment (mainly quint toms) I'm in! lol if I even knew when this would be, if I could borrow my schools quints, and if I could even go. I know alot of cadences though ^_^';

Same here, our school loans out the percussion instruments so we can practice at home; and we spend a lot of time learning cadences. This would be such an awesome thing to do! If we could make a list of who could do this for sure, I'm sure it would turn out great!

Gogglegirl
03-18-2005, 06:44 PM
I play Flute and Piccolo and kinda sorta not really the trumpet (is receving lessons at a random set time). I've still got my one and only Yamaha Intermediate flute. I've got a school pic too.

It'd be soooo awesome to have a FMA marching band thingy at Otakon. I'd so do it. Though my FMA costume is <s>going to be</s> Roy Mustang's Dream Officer....so its not really an official uniform...but I could make the parts I need for the real uniform...like the longer skirt....

Number_09
03-20-2005, 01:38 PM
Too bad I can't make it out to Otakon any time soon. :-(

LunarYoma
03-21-2005, 06:34 AM
Now this idea sounds awsome. dont play instruments, & never been in band, but i do know how to march. Would love to participate in something like this.

Hikaruchan
03-21-2005, 09:43 AM
Since I am trying to rush together an uniform, the DragonCon parade idea sounds great to me. I used to play alto sax and clarinet - haven't touched them in years so would need practice time to relearn figurings if this was going to be at a con I was going to and playing something.

Asakura
03-24-2005, 06:31 PM
I was in band in elementary school, I played the flute. I haven't played for around 3 years now though, so I dont really remember how to play. Our band did march though, we'd do parades and football games and such. But I'm cosplaying one of the sins anyway, they're not exactly military ^^;

Kagome9
03-29-2005, 04:31 PM
Where, when, and what is DragonCon?

Master1080
03-29-2005, 07:09 PM
The major conventions are a few months away and it is about time to start some planning. Many people who have expressed interest in this will be most likely attending the following conventions:

Where and When:

1. Anime Expo 2005 (Anaheim, CA) - July 1-4, 2005: A possible mini/sub gathering seems to be what is going on. Either that or a group just lounging around convention grounds playing music (like the Cowboy Bebop sax guy and Ramen & Rice)

2. Otakon 2005 (Baltimore, MA) - August 19-21, 2005: A masquarade group seems to be the popular choice of group for this convention from what I've read in this thread.

3. Dragon Con 2005 (Atlanta, GA) - September 2-5: A full marching band in the Dragon Con parade seems to be the preferred choice of gathering.

Types of marching bands/band related groups:

Full Marching Band
Military Jazz Band
Specific Instrument Quartets and/or Quintets
Rifle Twirling Squad
Military Salute Platoon
Flags Team

Seeing as I have no marching band skills what so ever, I am not the best candidate to organize gatherings. If you have the skills then by all means start a thread in the respective convention forums on this site.

Emiko
04-08-2005, 07:08 PM
Another band geek reporting in! :) 4 years of experience as a clarinetist in a high school marching band. I would love to play and/or march again, especially if cosplay is involved! :D

I will definitely be at Anime Expo and would love to meet other musical cosplayers there. If we had an organized band group, I might even consider coming out to DragonCon :)

Scruffy Rebel
04-25-2005, 12:56 PM
Same here! Sounds like fun and a good excuse to make an FMA costume ^^

I haven't played in about two years so I'm a little rusty, but I have 8 years of Clarinet experience with private teaching during those years, and 4 years of marching band experience. I used to be the band secretary for my HS band for two years (yay bandos!) and was pretty good at marching back in the day...god I feel old now thinking back on that. I remember winning a marching drill and getting to pie my director in the face...good times good times ^^

I'll be at AX this year.

~Oracle

Master1080
05-09-2005, 06:22 PM
Anime Expo is only 2 months away! With no one volunteering to head the sub-gathering, I will take on the job.

If you express interest in this, please post in these convention threads that you are attending. If a gathering is confirmed then post you member name, FMA character, and instrument!

FMA - Anime Expo 2005 (http://forums.cosplay.com/showthread.php?t=50905&page=1&pp=15)
Corrdinator: Master1080 (http://forums.cosplay.com/member.php?u=19732)

FMA - Otakon 2005 (http://forums.cosplay.com/showthread.php?t=54503)
Coordinator: ????

FMA Marching Band - Dragon Con 2005 (http://forums.cosplay.com/showthread.php?t=56760)
Coordinator: Kagome9 (http://forums.cosplay.com/member.php?userid=25540)?

Please check the first post on the first page for more information.

Gotham
05-09-2005, 08:49 PM
Wait, so what do you want to be organized for Otakon? Wouldn't a marching band be kinda hard since there isnt a parade?

AeonisPi
05-11-2005, 12:33 AM
that's a too awesome idea.. i'd cosplay FMA just to get a chance^^ i'm a flutist/picc-ist,saxists, pianist etc and was a drum major ^^ i only own a flute and can borrow my bro's sax though

i <3 my flute a very sweet Powell open hole B foot <3<3

i really hope people wanna do it for Otakon

EDIT:: so no one's organizing the Otakon on yet.. if not.. I guess I'd give it a try depending on response

!*Jessi-Chan*!
05-11-2005, 02:20 PM
I wish i could be apart of this!!! I play Clarinet AND i'm cosplaying Winry (as of right now) for AZ. But i can't go to any of those cons this year!!! Doesn't that just suck raw eggs....

Cat-Chans
05-12-2005, 02:03 AM
I wish I could see this, but I'm no where near any of those cons.
Maybe if they go well it will expand and A-kon 17 can have one, I'd love to be on the rifle line for flag corp

and, minor technicality, you spin a rifle, not twirl it XD

tempest_strife
06-29-2005, 10:20 AM
;_; I'm sorry I havn't been able to get the music... But I have an idea... There is plenty of fan-arranged parts for Final Fantasy music... So we could be the FMA band playing FF music. XD Well, it would work, and it has all the parts for free.... The other option is to BUY a score for some pep type music.

Cat the Terribl
06-29-2005, 12:23 PM
This is awesome... and we can't make any of those cons. T_T If this idea migrates to ACen or AnimeIowa, my sister and I are clarinetists.

KeoKazumi1
06-29-2005, 12:52 PM
I could be your clarinet lol.But sadly it way too late.Wish i would of seen this sooner.I could of bought a costum and went this year ^_^.

Halfrican
06-29-2005, 01:02 PM
This is awesome... and we can't make any of those cons. T_T If this idea migrates to ACen or AnimeIowa, my sister and I are clarinetists.

Same here, If this comes to ACEN or Ohayocon, trust me, I can have about 5 members of Purdue's Drumline ready to play (myself included)

Gwydion
07-18-2005, 11:21 PM
Dude, if it came to Ohayocon, I would totally be there! XD Never thought of myself as a band geek, but being in a marching band of cosplayers sounds like too much fun. I'd have to break out my old clarinet (and maybe my sis could find a tuba, lol). I think it still has a cracked bell from me trying to "twirl" it and then just dropping it... on pavement.

But, one crucial question: swing band or core band?

And I am the only one who would just want to parade the halls (or outside, depending on the cons setting) like that? ^_^;;

Kamizu
02-14-2006, 07:57 PM
lol that all sounds like fun. ^^ I wish I could join in. too bad. I'm in the Air Force Honor Guard and I know how to do the 'rifle twirling' lol. fun stuff! best of luck with that!