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tamamushiiro
01-07-2005, 09:46 PM
I found these patterns and CosMode articles on bakachan.com, but I *can't* *read* *Japanese*! ::my life is paaaain!:: Is there anyone here who can translate these?

Links to the images:
Ed's coat:
http://www.bakachan.com/cosplay/coshelp/patterns/ed1.jpg
http://www.bakachan.com/cosplay/coshelp/patterns/ed2.jpg

Automail:
http://www.bakachan.com/cosplay/coshelp/patterns/automail/page1.jpg
http://www.bakachan.com/cosplay/coshelp/patterns/automail/page2.jpg
http://www.bakachan.com/cosplay/coshelp/patterns/automail/page01.jpg

Also, any other Fullmetal Alchemist patterns would be appreciated, as would any suggestions for an Alphonse suit of armor not involving fiberglass. Thank you!

~Tama

Kes_Longwood
01-07-2005, 11:58 PM
I found these patterns and CosMode articles on bakachan.com, but I *can't* *read* *Japanese*! ::my life is paaaain!:: Is there anyone here who can translate these?

Links to the images:
Ed's coat:
http://www.bakachan.com/cosplay/coshelp/patterns/ed1.jpg
http://www.bakachan.com/cosplay/coshelp/patterns/ed2.jpg

Automail:
http://www.bakachan.com/cosplay/coshelp/patterns/automail/page1.jpg
http://www.bakachan.com/cosplay/coshelp/patterns/automail/page2.jpg
http://www.bakachan.com/cosplay/coshelp/patterns/automail/page01.jpg

Also, any other Fullmetal Alchemist patterns would be appreciated, as would any suggestions for an Alphonse suit of armor not involving fiberglass. Thank you!

~Tama

OK, 1. Is that a kit.
2. If so, where can I get one. Of the Automail :jjacks:
3. Can you send bigger pictures, and pic of the kit it self if it is a kit. I cann't translate the instructions, but I can interperite the pictures pretty well from my experence of model making.
Thx, StayFrosty

LaPetiteSalope
01-08-2005, 12:22 AM
I'm sorry, I can't translate it. *curses her high school for not having Japanese as a language anymore* I've seen that image before from bakachan's website. At first I thought about using the "Beta fish" translator...but it can only translate text and not images -_-;;. I'm positive it must have been scanned from the "COSmo" Magazine in Japan. I went into the bookstore this winter break when I went to Japan and searched high and low...they didn't have any cosplay magazines. O_O *dies* Maybe if you e-mail bakachan, she/he can tell you what edition it was and you could buy it online *patterns are in the book*.But yeah, I've ordered a gothic lolita magazine from japan on how to make clothes...it seems pretty self explanitory but all the lines and darts made me so confused!! If you can't translate, just try and follow the pictures as best as you can. Sorry that I wasn't much help. ;_;

Amy the Yu
01-08-2005, 01:44 AM
I can't read fluent Japanese, so I'm not going to risk a translation and get something wrong.

Just use the patterns she provides for the automail on the site. The links to each page tell you which part of the pattern is for which part of the automail. The pictures just provide a nice reference to show you how it should look once you put it together.

The jacket, just look at the measurements and enlarge it to human scale. You can use news print or something to draw it out to cut up and piece together before going at it for real.

OK, 1. Is that a kit.
2. If so, where can I get one. Of the Automail :jjacks:
3. Can you send bigger pictures, and pic of the kit it self if it is a kit. I cann't translate the instructions, but I can interperite the pictures pretty well from my experence of model making.
Thx, StayFrosty

Not a kit. Cosmode is a cosplay magazine and these are just scans of a few pages from one issue that had patterns for some costumes. The patterns aren't to scale, which is why they have measurements in inches labelled. The site is owned by someone else (another cosplay.com member), so asking Kagomechann for more scans won't do you any good cause I'm sure that if she owned the mag herself, she wouldn't be using links to bakachan.com

tamamushiiro
01-08-2005, 01:54 AM
The automail thing is definitely from CosMode, and it can be purchased at http://www.jlist.com (you can also buy a subscription that will be sent to the US - it is teh shizzy) I'm not sure what the armor in the reference photo was made of, but on the bakachan website, she reccomends using Amethyst Angel's fiberglass phobic method at http://amethyst-angel.com/armormaking.html

I know what you mean about the high school thing, KagomeChann (kind of). I'm in high school, but I just moved... 2 years ago? Yes, 2 years... but in one of the towns my parents were considering moving to, the local public high school offered Japanese, and of course, we didn't move there. *Damn you, Sheboygan!*

It is possible to request high-resolution image scans from bakachan.com at http://www.bakachan.com/cosplay/coshelp/patterns/request.htm

~Tama

tamamushiiro
01-08-2005, 01:55 AM
>.> gomen, by "buy it at Jlist," I meant you can purchase issues of the magazine, not the automail.

~Tama

Amethyst Angel
01-08-2005, 02:04 AM
I actually went and made a version of the armor: http://images.cosplay.com/showphoto.php?photo=253355

I used the pattern at bakachan.com (I had to resize some of the pieces, as they weren't all to the same scale.) I used foam covered with styrene for most of the pieces (and for the fingers, I cut the patterns out of thin styrene and covered then with a vinyl adhesive.) I was able to get the gist of the project from looking at the pictures. (So I don't really feel you'd NEED a translation of the production notes to figure out how to put the arm together, although I'll admit, it would be nice...)

TheCactuarAteMe
01-08-2005, 02:35 AM
Okay. Speaking of patterns for the coat, does anyone know where I can get a pattern type thingy for the symbol on the back. Or just a really good reference picture of it or something.

tamamushiiro
01-08-2005, 02:52 AM
Also at bakachan.com! I always thoroughly search sites that I find cool stuff on for other cool stuff. *flips through favorites* at: http://www.bakachan.com/csoplay/coshelp/prints/fma.htm You could also just take the image direct from the manga, as it's used for the endpage thing in every chapter.

TheCactuarAteMe
01-08-2005, 09:44 PM
Also at bakachan.com! I always thoroughly search sites that I find cool stuff on for other cool stuff. *flips through favorites* at: http://www.bakachan.com/csoplay/coshelp/prints/fma.htm You could also just take the image direct from the manga, as it's used for the endpage thing in every chapter.

Thank you very much. ^^

kiwi
01-08-2005, 11:57 PM
Okay. Speaking of patterns for the coat, does anyone know where I can get a pattern type thingy for the symbol on the back. Or just a really good reference picture of it or something.

As long as photoshop didn't squish this funny when I saved it as a JPEg, this is a properly scaled Ed symbol (I used it for a silk screen, worked very well)

http://www.kiwiflowers.net/cosplay/images/symbol.jpg

made it myself ^^ (only notable because I suck hardcore with photoshop)

[Edit: Oh, I guess someone already posted one. Oh well >.>; ]

swan20
01-09-2005, 11:54 PM
here is a little help, since i don't know japanese

pic #1 of Ed's coat: the far right top has two patterns (top row), on right is the back of coat, and left is front (you need to cut two of each) rigth below the right one is the hood, to left would be the sleeve)
the #s are measurements, all in cm (so if you are using inches and your own measurements, it will be fine. to make sure just convert them)

pic #2 just shows how you put it together, you can do that your own way.
x.

TheCactuarAteMe
01-10-2005, 12:36 AM
As long as photoshop didn't squish this funny when I saved it as a JPEg, this is a properly scaled Ed symbol (I used it for a silk screen, worked very well)

http://www.kiwiflowers.net/cosplay/images/symbol.jpg

made it myself ^^ (only notable because I suck hardcore with photoshop)

[Edit: Oh, I guess someone already posted one. Oh well >.>; ]

Wow. This is actually very helpful Kiwi. Thank you.

Just for future reference to anyone, the one on Baka-chan's site is good, but the link to it is down. As in you can't click on it. So Kiwi's is very helpful. And it doesn't seem squished at all.

TsukiGuujin
01-11-2005, 10:39 AM
This thread totally owns!
With the links to Bakachan.com, it looks like making automail might NOT be impossible. Thanks bunches. ^^

...although, with as many people as want to be Ed this year, I might wait a while. @_@

~~Tsuki~~

chibi_kitsune
01-11-2005, 11:35 AM
I would like to see it but for some reason the pictures and the link is not working on my computer, but I think it would be a cool costume to make one day.

LaPetiteSalope
02-17-2005, 06:40 PM
OH! I found the link for the Cosmode book. It is volume 006: http://www.sasugabooks.com/product_info.php?cPath=205&products_id=33960
and the title looks like this: http://suki.gotdns.org/ku/kura/Cosplay/DSCF4943.JPG

kyoushu
02-17-2005, 07:09 PM
Ha, it says Fullmetal Cosplay. That's an awesome title.

I wish I could read more Japanese than 100 measly kanji and the kana... ;_;

However, my high school DOES offer it, so I'm learning. >.>

ilumiari
02-19-2005, 07:33 AM
Umm, ok, I'm going to have a crack at translating it, I understand about 75% of what it's going on about.
1) Make the Hood and coat pattern
- The way to do this is pretty much expained better in the pictures than I can translate it, pretty much cut out pieces with that measurement. The thing in the top right hand corner is the hood, below that is the front, left of that is the back, below to the left is the sleeve. Cut two of each piece.
2) That long piece of material that looks like binding is for the hood. I have no idea what measurments it needs to have, but I'd suggest a width of 6 cm considering what you do with it. *I think it mentions something about interfacing this, but I'm not sure* Cut that out.
3) Overlock the material where it shows you in the picture. The one on the left is the front, the right is the back.
4) Iron that fold in the fabric down, and sew it in.
5) Sew the main bits together. From left to right its rightfront, rightback, leftback, leftfront. Make sure not to sew right down to the back on rightback and leftback.
6) Sew the dart into the hood, and iron it flat
7) Sew the two hood pieces together as shown in the picture, and iron the seam open
8) Sew in the sleeve like you'd normally sew in a sleeve
9) Sew along the arm and down the side to complete the sleeve.
10) Turn up the 'cuffs'. Notch the 'collar' 5mm every 5 cm.
11) Iron that strip that you cut before the way that you would make bias binding. Attach the hood on the collar, and cover the seam with that 'binding'
12) Turn over the other seams like in the photo and sew them.

I really hope this helps :)

LaPetiteSalope
02-20-2005, 10:58 PM
Umm, ok, I'm going to have a crack at translating it, I understand about 75% of what it's going on about.
1) Make the Hood and coat pattern
- The way to do this is pretty much expained better in the pictures than I can translate it, pretty much cut out pieces with that measurement. The thing in the top right hand corner is the hood, below that is the front, left of that is the back, below to the left is the sleeve. Cut two of each piece.
2) That long piece of material that looks like binding is for the hood. I have no idea what measurments it needs to have, but I'd suggest a width of 6 cm considering what you do with it. *I think it mentions something about interfacing this, but I'm not sure* Cut that out.
3) Overlock the material where it shows you in the picture. The one on the left is the front, the right is the back.
4) Iron that fold in the fabric down, and sew it in.
5) Sew the main bits together. From left to right its rightfront, rightback, leftback, leftfront. Make sure not to sew right down to the back on rightback and leftback.
6) Sew the dart into the hood, and iron it flat
7) Sew the two hood pieces together as shown in the picture, and iron the seam open
8) Sew in the sleeve like you'd normally sew in a sleeve
9) Sew along the arm and down the side to complete the sleeve.
10) Turn up the 'cuffs'. Notch the 'collar' 5mm every 5 cm.
11) Iron that strip that you cut before the way that you would make bias binding. Attach the hood on the collar, and cover the seam with that 'binding'
12) Turn over the other seams like in the photo and sew them.

I really hope this helps :)

OH! thank you so much for the translation! I just bought the book from Katsucon yesterday and I was just flipping though the book like: WHERE ARE THE PATTERNS!?! I guess they thought we are actually diligent enough to cut of the freaking pieces ourselves. lol. Time for the annoyinf measuring tape...The pictures are pretty self explanitory though.

janmurphy
02-21-2005, 12:04 AM
Hey, I was just wondering, if anyone DOES translate the automail cosmode artical, may I have a copy to post on the automail page? I did translate enough of it at one point to figure out the 'relase' method they were using to get the backing off the vinyl. But once I got that figured out I just did my own thing. Plus, I cant seem to find my notes from the little bit I got translated. *sigh*
So yeah, if anyone does do it can I get a copy?

tempest_strife
02-22-2005, 12:36 PM
I just finished my sister's Ed jacket. She didn't want a lining in it... but that's allright since the material is thicker, but flows nicely. I also self bound seamed everything, so it is nice and neat.

As a note: The pattern in cosmode has some flaws: It doesn't say how wide the arm pieces should be. I made mine circa 40 cm, plus the seam allowance I needed to self bound seam the piece. As a refrence, use the measurement of the cuffs of your Ed shirt, plus 10 cm(this is not including seam allowance). The slope from the top of the 50cm x ?cm box takes two cm off each side, so that will leave your jacket sleeve 6 cm bigger than your Ed shirt. Also, the measurements on the piece for the front is a little wierd... You'll need to look at the pattern to understand this...

The front piece is the one on the right. It says the main width of the piece is 25.5 cm, from which everything builds. However, on the top it has 9cm for the width of the neckline and 15.3 cm for the width od the shoulder. Those two together are 24.3 cm, already really close to 25.5, but the drawing shows that the 25.5cm x 27.5cm box extends far beyond 24.3cm at the top... If you follow their measurements, it will look differnt than theirs when you are done. I don't think those patterns are to scale...

Speaking of which, for the hood, they didn't tell you how far the piece in front extends down from the 30cm x 40cm box. Make it longer than it appears however: I ended up making a second hood because after I put the darts in like the instructions said, my hood collar seam didn't match up with my neckline seam. You can always cut things smaller, so start out bigger than you think you'll need, then sew and cut it how you want it.