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Derwin Mak
11-26-2005, 09:52 PM
There are messages appearing on the Con No Baka forum at http://www.connobaka.com/ saying that the convention shut down early today and will not be held on Sunday. If this is true, it's a colossal disaster that can only hurt Toronto Trek's and Anime North's bargaining position with the Doubletree International Plaza Hotel.

Does anyone know if this is true?

Derwin Mak
Former, First (and possibly Last Ever) Costuming Guest of Honour, Con No Baka

Squall1882
11-26-2005, 10:30 PM
I heard that at about 5pm they announced that the con would not be running on Sunday and that the dealers had until midnight to clear out.

morbid-prince
11-26-2005, 10:31 PM
I felt kinda bad for the dealers...they had....SO MUCH to take down on such a short notice :\

dani
11-26-2005, 10:34 PM
Yes.
All dealers were told to pack and carry out their wares between 8pm and mindnight. I just arrived home for my second trip carrying out merchandise.
Simply put, the registration numbers were so low that cutting out hotel fees for a day will cut the losses shorter.
Dealers and Public (who paid for a full weekend) will be awaiting news about a partial refund.

morbid-prince
11-26-2005, 10:36 PM
man I doubt we'd get the refund....luckily I live in Toronto..I feel bad for those who had to travel even more!
and actually the dealers were told to get out by 8:30 or 9pm shortly after and....it was....bloody messy...angry otakus are scary otakus

archangeli
11-26-2005, 10:40 PM
If this is true, it's a colossal disaster that can only hurt Toronto Trek's and Anime North's bargaining position with the Doubletree International Plaza Hotel.


Yes, it's true, and it is a huge disaster.

However, at least Anime North and Toronto Trek have a longer-standing relationship with the Doubletree Hotel and also have a viable financial track record. This reminds me of the mess stories that I've heard Vancouver had years back when they first had an anime convention, a few years before Anime Evolution.

A lot of people have pointed out things that were wrong early on about this convention (like being overzealous planning a 3-day affair, lack of experience, poor organization and communication, etc.) - and what has happened today has proved their ominous warnings to be true.


and actually the dealers were told to get out by 8:30 or 9pm shortly after and....it was....bloody messy...angry otakus are scary otakus
They announced the dealer's room was closing "in 30 minutes" when I left, which was about 6:30 or so. Demanding dealers to pack up their wares and get out in a couple of hours is not very realistic. All of them get there hours ahead of opening on the first day to set up displays and unpack things.

Schubuttercup
11-26-2005, 10:41 PM
If I was an anime character there would be steam coming out of my ears! I came all the way from North Bay just cause I was stupid and paid for a pre-reg and said what the hell. But anyways, yeah it was shutdown early and man were those staff people damn rude about it!

KazeChan
11-26-2005, 11:04 PM
wow..it seems so bad for the people who pre-registered if there's no Sunday part to go to....sorry that it happened to those planning to go sunday >< I left around 5pm today, so i was really clueless about all of this x_X

heki-chan
11-26-2005, 11:14 PM
Info about dealers & the bullshit we took: http://forums.cosplay.com/showpost.php?p=1232050&postcount=19

To continue what ARchangeli said, they screwed us FURTHER, how??

- Told us the dealers room will operate until 8PM, and then we would have until midnight to move everything out
-7PM, they already started stopping con-goers from ENTERING the dealers room, and then announced the dealers room was to shut down by 7:30PM

.......make up your mind, dammit.

This resuted in confusion and chaos.

an_cafe
11-26-2005, 11:40 PM
yea theres no 2morow its not gonna be on sunday

Dark-Fang
11-26-2005, 11:45 PM
yea theres no 2morow its not gonna be on sunday
Did you attempt to attend it? IT WAS A DISATER! they were a half hour late starting it and they had no water inside for the people dancing....

I made friends with SO many dealers I really feel bad for you guys....

an_cafe
11-26-2005, 11:47 PM
yea i was there friday and today it was err jus plain unorganized

Dark-Fang
11-26-2005, 11:51 PM
yea i was there friday and today it was err jus plain unorganized
I meant the dance tonight that was held... I was in it and it was appauling... Although what I did come to see and do was nice (it had VERY little to do with the staff of CnB though)

Iczer eh
11-26-2005, 11:54 PM
To clarify, the decision to cancel Sunday was made by the hotel, not by the organizer. It will have absolutely no effect on Anime North's relationship with the hotel and I can tell you everyone involved, including the hotel staff feel awful about the way it ended.

dani
11-26-2005, 11:58 PM
Info about dealers & the bullshit we took: http://forums.cosplay.com/showpost.php?p=1232050&postcount=19

The idea of a POTENTIAL refund by a percentage of hours actually worked is fine, if one doesn't consider all the people that said "I'll come back on sunday to spend all the money I have left". But that's theading too fine....

dani
11-27-2005, 12:02 AM
To clarify, the decision to cancel Sunday was made by the hotel, not by the organizer. It will have absolutely no effect on Anime North's relationship with the hotel and I can tell you everyone involved, including the hotel staff feel awful about the way it ended.
Where did you get that info from?
What I was told is that the registration revenue was so low that it woudn't cover the hotel rental so the con decided to cancel sunday to avoid a bigger loss.
The hotel just rents space, I don't see it having the authority to cancel an activity ran on the space it rented out, unless it was told that it won't be paid.

Iczer eh
11-27-2005, 12:09 AM
From the involved parties, directly . A convention contract with a hotel is very complicated and includes the right for the hotel to withdraw the use of function space for low attendance and/or room rentals. I do not know the specifics of the Con no Baka contract, nor was I part of the decision making process - and I have to add Anime North, was in no way or shape involved in any capactity beyond some AN staff helping out a friend.

It might even have been me who gave you the wrong info in the beginning, lol which is why I made a point of tracking down the correct version from both sides.

Ochika
11-27-2005, 12:09 AM
Posting by 3 of us: Amy The Yu, Chibik3r0 (typing), and Ochika

Oh the spectacular failure that was "A Bakon Con" (witty anagram XD) was glorious in it's crash and burn. We all saw it coming especially with outside updates via cell phone on the postings on the board courtesy of Kia. It's not a horrific lost since we all managed to get in free of charge due to either being a dealer or a last minute staff addition...But it was fun to watch history being made first hand as the convention went all downhill in glorious flames. The "I hate Con no Baka" buttons created at the end of the night by K-Kun were a hot sell. 70 sold in 5 minutes apparently which is pretty sweet.

For a convention that was supposed to cater to the costumers by being unique and having 30 minute skit rooms and a "special" photo booth complete with a bed-sheet backdrop was quite... Asstastic to say the least.

While the con itself sucked major ass, we all had a good time due to the good company and the friendliness of the other attendees of the convention. I felt the security was pretty anal when Ochika and I (Chibik3r0) were not even allowed to stick our head in to the dealer's room Friday night to notify Amy that we were there to pick her up because we didn't yet have a badge. We eventually flagged down Heki-Chan as she was leaving the dealer's room and had her notify Amy... As we were yelling back and forth, the security people closed the dealer room doors so we weren't able to yell in anymore.

Amy The Yu typing: I was in the Dealers' room selling with a friend beside Heki-chan.

When we were told about the early cut off, it was pretty shocking, but most people's concerns were addressed on the spot by the security member who delivered the message. However, the dealers were told nothing more than "talk to the con chair...but we don't know where he is right now". None of the con staff knew where the chair was and they weren't told everything necessary to pacify the people there.

I also did a set of panels with Kels and Seed-chan, and we were told that for the supposed refund we'd get for doing 4 hours of panels, we'd be given approx. 9 mangas for compensation instead of the refund and were fine with it, but when we went to where this was supposed to happen, we were told it was half that.

For the two things that I did (panelist and dealer), neither were dealt with properly and none of the staff knew enough details to pass along the right info when the smackdown occurred.

I knew a lot of the staff from other events and NO ONE was told what exactly was going on. A lot of the staff were terribly upset that even while the con was running, they were never provided with the proper resources to do their jobs.

Ochika will make a post when she gets off her lazy ass and Chibik3r0 and I get off her account.

Overall, this is the most disorganized convention any of us have EVER been to, and we've gone to 9 different conventions THIS year alone. Thank God we had great friends there to help salvage the shredded remains of a horrific convention.

Alexia Ishtar
11-27-2005, 12:14 AM
As I saw in someone elses post:


"Here's to Anime North 2006"

an_cafe
11-27-2005, 12:23 AM
yea i was at the dance i was the assasin that got owned in the moshing thing

minion-chan
11-27-2005, 12:28 AM
All I can say is con no baka makes Minion sad. :( The convention its self was rather unimpressive, but as usual I got to hang out with all my friends which is really -why- I go to cons... So I suppose I'm happy enough... but I don't think I'll ever try a new 3 day con ever again @-@

LoneWanderer
11-27-2005, 02:35 AM
poor minion *pat pat* so glad I didn't go now

Kohana
11-27-2005, 07:01 AM
at least the con stay true to one thing....we did need to make our own fun!

Angathol
11-27-2005, 10:46 AM
I honestly thought that this would be a good convention, and I was looking forward to it, but because I guilted my parents into letting me see Harry Potter at midnight on opening night, I wasn't allowed to attend CNB. I am extremely grateful that I didn't waste $30+. I wasn't even going to spend any money other than the admission price, because it was more of a "let's meet up with friends" thing.

XD "I hate Con no Baka" buttons... I want one!

Kohana
11-27-2005, 10:58 AM
XD "I hate Con no Baka" buttons... I want one!

How about.... "Friends Don't Let Friends Go To Con no Baka" button?

TheWestWind
11-27-2005, 11:10 AM
I bought one of those buttons, lol.... like wow to 70 buttons sold in 5 mins... I can believe it too...

Dark-Fang
11-27-2005, 11:13 AM
I bought one of those buttons, lol.... like wow to 70 buttons sold in 5 mins... I can believe it too...
You all got hosed! I made a new friend at the con who picked my phone up for me (it fell out while I was dancing) and he thought my costume was good so he gave me a "I hate Con no Baka" pin for free (he was making them and selling them) to advertise it for him.^^ Everyone seemed to be into my costume I felt so loved. ^_______^

Kaijugal
11-27-2005, 12:33 PM
I'm sorry I'm not going to get to see all of you who I was coming out to give some help and work with today especially Derwin. ^_^

LoneWanderer
11-27-2005, 01:27 PM
I want a I hate con no baka button too....

minion-chan
11-27-2005, 01:30 PM
I didn't get a button :( a few of my friends got them, I think I was in anime hell when they were being sold...

Alexia Ishtar
11-27-2005, 02:13 PM
I didn't go, but I wouldn't mind getting one to add to my collection of pins :jjacks:

Anime Dave
11-27-2005, 03:11 PM
To clarify, the decision to cancel Sunday was made by the hotel, not by the organizer. It will have absolutely no effect on Anime North's relationship with the hotel and I can tell you everyone involved, including the hotel staff feel awful about the way it ended.

I actually did get a chance to speak with the member of hotel management with whom CnB, AN and TT Hotel Liaisons deal with - I got to know him last year while I was the exec member for TT's Hotel Liaison - around 10 PM Saturday night. I asked him if he felt that there would be any ripple effects from this on AN and TT. His overall comment was that as far as he felt, AN and TT are completely seperate animals from CnB, and that in his mind, there souldn't be any ripples for either of them.

I have many more comments, but I will probably post them in response to Derwin's letter as to why he left.

Jo_Canadian
11-27-2005, 03:36 PM
for those of you that saw me on the weekend and will see me again at future cons please do me this much of a favor. remind me to never under any circumstance volenteer and at a first year fan run anime con.....i dont think i could take the stress of it ever again

Anime Dave
11-27-2005, 03:46 PM
Posting by 3 of us: Amy The Yu, Chibik3r0 (typing), and Ochika

Amy The Yu typing: I was in the Dealers' room selling with a friend beside Heki-chan.

I also did a set of panels with Kels and Seed-chan, and we were told that for the supposed refund we'd get for doing 4 hours of panels, we'd be given approx. 9 mangas for compensation instead of the refund and were fine with it, but when we went to where this was supposed to happen, we were told it was half that.

For the two things that I did (panelist and dealer), neither were dealt with properly and none of the staff knew enough details to pass along the right info when the smackdown occurred.

I knew a lot of the staff from other events and NO ONE was told what exactly was going on. A lot of the staff were terribly upset that even while the con was running, they were never provided with the proper resources to do their jobs.

Amy, I feel that I personally must appologize to you and the other panelists for the way you must all feel - even though I only stepped in on Friday to handle things after hearing about the other person having fell ill. (I was at first only supposed to be there to help out security for the weekend.)

I'm going to make more comments and responses in the other thread, like I mentioned earlier, but I do want to address your concern over the panelist refunds.

I was informed of what the panelists refund policy was going to be about 6-7 PM, and that it was going to be in the form of manga, with one manga = $5. I decided that the best place to deal with the refunds was up in the Hamilton room, which was up in the same area of the hotel where all the panel rooms were. The reasons I did this were three-fold:

1) It was up by the panel rooms, so panelists would know where it was.
2) The main office was rather crowded and chaotic at that point in the evening.
3) Trying to deal with this by the Info/Mobility Access desk - or anywhere else in a hallway - with panelists rooting through boxes would be very chaotic.

Once up there, I found out that it was to be half of the membership. So I had someone call down to the office for me and ask them to clarify. The response was that any panelists who did 4+hours of panels got 5 manga.

And truth be told Amy? There were points on Saturday night where I was ready to cry because of how I was seeing panelists being treated.

dani
11-27-2005, 03:49 PM
Yes, let's make it clear that even when volunteers are publically identified as part of the con organization for all practical purposes, they were there ad-honorem with little to gain and a lot to loose, like being in charge of announcing bad news and having to face upset people just for the fun of it. I hope these messengers din't get shot too badly.

Jo_Canadian
11-27-2005, 03:57 PM
i dont think i have had to deal with that many people screaming at me in a very long time, atleast this time it wasnt my fault. im sorry i had to be the bearer of bad news to all those running booths and artist alley tables. i did what i could to delay the inevitable. but there was nothing i could do. i appologize and please next time i have to do public speaking and act as a messenger, i dont wanna be shot again

TheWestWind
11-27-2005, 04:01 PM
awwww.... I feel bad for all the poor volunteers who had to tell people stuff like that... But I guess somebody had to tell them that.. And who else but the volunteers.. You were so busy Chris, I only saw you like twice... And I got no pic of yuor Reno costume... wah....

LMP
11-27-2005, 04:32 PM
man I doubt we'd get the refund....luckily I live in Toronto..I feel bad for those who had to travel even more!
and actually the dealers were told to get out by 8:30 or 9pm shortly after and....it was....bloody messy...angry otakus are scary otakus


I dragged my ass out of the dealer's room as soon as they said that they weren't opening tomorrow--it made me extremely angry that I had to lug things down just to be kicked out a day early.

Another Dream
11-27-2005, 05:21 PM
I hope this experience doesn't stop people from going to new cons. My hubby and I were thinking of doing a small one in the Hamilton area because a lot of people west of Toronto who LOVE anime can't always make it all the way to Toronto. I would be really sad if con no baka screwed up so bad, it jaded everyone enough to not attend new cons. :(

heki-chan
11-27-2005, 05:46 PM
i dont think i have had to deal with that many people screaming at me in a very long time, atleast this time it wasnt my fault. im sorry i had to be the bearer of bad news to all those running booths and artist alley tables. i did what i could to delay the inevitable. but there was nothing i could do. i appologize and please next time i have to do public speaking and act as a messenger, i dont wanna be shot again

Yeah, being the messenger sucks. >o< I'm sorry you had to deal with that. But I honestly think that if the higherups didn't send a messenger, and dealt with it head-on, it would've been less of a piss-off >_>

But *big hugs* thanks for dealing with the angry mob =)

Anime Dave
11-27-2005, 06:36 PM
i dont think i have had to deal with that many people screaming at me in a very long time, atleast this time it wasnt my fault. im sorry i had to be the bearer of bad news to all those running booths and artist alley tables. i did what i could to delay the inevitable. but there was nothing i could do. i appologize and please next time i have to do public speaking and act as a messenger, i dont wanna be shot again

Jo_Canadian,

I've been asked by one of the chairs for TT20 to pass this along in response:

--------------------
Those of us who are experienced conrunners and attendees know that you were merely the person tapped to pass along the bad news, and you weren't
responsible for the disaster that took place this weekend. Unfortunately, as a
representative of the convention, people don't always make a distinction
between you and the folks who actually made the decision to shut down. They view anyone in any position of authority, no matter how limited, as a valid target for their frustrations.

Personally, I appreciate the fact that you stepped up and took the heat; I
tried to calm one or two people down for you as I could tell that you were a
tad overwhelmed by their anger. Thanks for making the effort.

Regards,

Lance Sibley
Chair, Gaylaxicon 2006
Co-Chair, TT20
--------------------

Jo_Canadian
11-27-2005, 07:05 PM
im curious if tt20 means toronto trek and either way i say thanks to those who did help me...it was much appreciated...i dont think i could have paid anyone to get on a better security team then that

TamaraMacDonald
11-27-2005, 07:16 PM
I hope this experience doesn't stop people from going to new cons. My hubby and I were thinking of doing a small one in the Hamilton area because a lot of people west of Toronto who LOVE anime can't always make it all the way to Toronto. I would be really sad if con no baka screwed up so bad, it jaded everyone enough to not attend new cons. :(

Off topic but following the thread.....as a former Hamiltonian- i can tell you that Rose of Bayshore Hobbies has tried to do one....and has not been succesfull financially-to cover her costs. One was set up in St. Catharines for the same reasons as you have stated and for the first year- had a small number of people. Lots of discussion on other boards and on other threads, why Toronto is successful for the #s and why other events should not expect the same sort of success because of different variables.

It is not that easy to put on an event- regardless of your hopes of giving back to the community. To do an event you must have experience and commitment. Period. And the willingness to lose money. Anime North- though non profit- did not break even until 2001. People lost money or loaned the con money until the next year. The best piece of advice i can give to ANY start up venture in fandom is to start off small.

Tamara
Liaison Director
Anime North 2005
-residing now in sunny B.C.!!!

Anime Dave
11-27-2005, 07:28 PM
im curious if tt20 means toronto trek and either way i say thanks to those who did help me...it was much appreciated...i dont think i could have paid anyone to get on a better security team then that

Yes, TT20 is indeed Toronto Trek. And while it's nothing against Star Trek itself, but because TT is so much more then just Star Trek, we're trying to put forth a more 'user-friendly' name to help encompas what we now cover.

And besides, I've been calling it 'TT' for years, just like I've been calling Anime North 'AN' for years. :)

shiro_hikaru
11-28-2005, 03:03 AM
You all got hosed! I made a new friend at the con who picked my phone up for me (it fell out while I was dancing) and he thought my costume was good so he gave me a "I hate Con no Baka" pin for free (he was making them and selling them) to advertise it for him.^^ Everyone seemed to be into my costume I felt so loved. ^_______^
*giggles* If the guy that gave you the pin was an asian male with glasses aka the Hinata Fan. That's my brother and I can certainly tell you he was not the one who a created or sold the pins. Yes he's was a dealer at the con but the pins were sold be an artist in the Artist alley named lauralee. It was a very last minute thing, and I do think that they will be a DTAC if anyone wants to find/buy more pins.

I will definitely pass on the word to Lauralee to bring a good sum of "I hate con no Baka" pins. Though I think see should continue the long tradition of craptacular iron-on tshirts saying "I saw it crash and burn ...and all I got was this lousy tshirt."

Schubuttercup
11-28-2005, 08:29 AM
I hope this experience doesn't stop people from going to new cons. My hubby and I were thinking of doing a small one in the Hamilton area because a lot of people west of Toronto who LOVE anime can't always make it all the way to Toronto. I would be really sad if con no baka screwed up so bad, it jaded everyone enough to not attend new cons.

There is a new con in Hamilton?

akirahojo
11-28-2005, 10:25 AM
This reminds me of the mess stories that I've heard Vancouver had years back when they first had an anime convention, a few years before Anime Evolution.

The first anime convention before AE, as mentioned, was called AKA-Kon. Their convention lasted two years, before the Vice-Chairman packed the whole thing in. Now we're going off topic, but this should be informative.

The convention chairman never foot the bill, that was always left to the vice-chairman. When the convention chairman was never to be found the next day, it was apparent what happened.

Aka-Kon had three weaknesses:

1. Never got involved with the community, rather it always dissed the clubs, or made them uncomfortable. The clubs that tried to get in contact were always met with hostility, and when they finally figured out what not to do, the clubs decided that this convention was not worth getting involved with.

2. The said con-chair was never in touch with the attendees, always thinking that the best marketing was catering to the lowest common denominator (this meant doing a wet T-shirt contest). Not only was she not in touch with her attendees, but with her staff as well. Which meant that no one knew what to do next, nor did she contact them for the next year.

3. They were always too big, too fast, and to most conventions out there, that is a quick death.

There is one thing that they did, which Con No Baka didn't: At least they finished their convention before they packed it up.

Wing_Goddess
11-28-2005, 02:51 PM
*giggles* If the guy that gave you the pin was an asian male with glasses aka the Hinata Fan. That's my brother and I can certainly tell you he was not the one who a created or sold the pins. Yes he's was a dealer at the con but the pins were sold be an artist in the Artist alley named lauralee. It was a very last minute thing, and I do think that they will be a DTAC if anyone wants to find/buy more pins.

hehe, he gave my friend and i one too ^__^ very nice button! I was planning to go on Sunday for Con no Baka, but only ended up coming Sat night to the hotel to hear that it was a flop. BOO. Oh well, one less con to not worry about going to. There are already too many anime cons, and i always want to go to them T___T it hurts my wallet.

Dark-Fang
11-28-2005, 02:59 PM
*giggles* If the guy that gave you the pin was an asian male with glasses aka the Hinata Fan. That's my brother and I can certainly tell you he was not the one who a created or sold the pins. Yes he's was a dealer at the con but the pins were sold be an artist in the Artist alley named lauralee. It was a very last minute thing, and I do think that they will be a DTAC if anyone wants to find/buy more pins.

I will definitely pass on the word to Lauralee to bring a good sum of "I hate con no Baka" pins. Though I think see should continue the long tradition of craptacular iron-on tshirts saying "I saw it crash and burn ...and all I got was this lousy tshirt."
That's the one! But whatever you know me anyway. I'm the Sanji that made the comment on your sketch book.^^

I thought he gave me it to advertise... Oh well no big deal hard to hear at the time and I was overheated from the dancing...

Otaking97
11-28-2005, 05:42 PM
This reason right here is why I make it my point to keep Northern Anime Fest in Oshawa only one day. With low attendance it would be overkill to go three days. I believe the issue is with transit. Getting to cons in Toronto are just easier. Outside of TO such as Oshawa or farther away Hamilton you are going to kill alot of the attendee's that take the bus/subway. And that is alot.

I laughed and found it funny. I knew CNB was going to be too big for what they wanted to do. I figure half the people there were panelists/staff. I kinda wish I did sign up for some panels. 2 panels I went to me and my friends were the only people in the audience.

I feel sorry for anyone who planned to only go on Sunday. Could you imagine showing up on Sunday and there is no con?! You know it must of happened to a few people at least. I myself drove an hour and a half in the snow to be there and that was bad enough. But at least the con was still on when I got there.

I tried to go to the dealers room as well and got denied at 7:30. OH well. With the money I saved I went into the raffel and won 2nd prize.

The dance was alright. Poor music selection due to request unfortunately.

Either way I had fun overall. The most 'stupid' thing I found is that for a costuming con they gave you STICKERS for passes. Since I was in street clothes when we got there and had 2 costumes to change into I put the sticker on my booklet since I knew it would not keep sticking after taking it off and on 3 times. Either way an annoying staff member told me and my friend that we would have to go to the Office if we did not get them on our outfits!?!? WHAT?! Look! IT's right here! No offence but I'm 26 years old and have my 'sticker badge'. Are you trying to say I'm going to 'rip off the con'? Because the con itself to the fans was the biggest rip off. You think they had bigger things to worry about.

I just wish more people noticed we were cosplaying King of the Hill! Hehehe.

Tsukasa_1
11-28-2005, 06:21 PM
Evening-

This is the reason why I brought it up to the polls before the ConCom was able make a decision to go ahead with a three day event for NAF. I wouldn’t entirely blame location for low attendance- As this year attendance included a lot of people from our neighbours to the south then I originally expected.

What happen this past weekend does truely hit close to home as I started out to dream big for Northern Anime Festival as well, I planned for three days and expected 1,000 people in attendance, but I was fortunate to be guided in the right direction before I caused a lot of headache and mayhem.

Otaking97
11-28-2005, 06:32 PM
Evening-

This is the reason why I brought it up to the polls before the ConCom was able make a decision to go ahead with a three day event for NAF. I wouldn’t entirely blame location for low attendance- As this year attendance included a lot of people from our neighbours to the south then I originally expected.

What happen this past weekend does truely hit close to home as I started out to dream big for Northern Anime Festival as well, I planned for three days and expected 1,000 people in attendance, but I was fortunate to be guided in the right direction before I caused a lot of headache and mayhem.

Don't worry buddy! We're looking out for you! And you know what? The fans appreciate it and will come.......

Derwin Mak
11-28-2005, 09:16 PM
I took one hall costume ribbon with me and left the other two in the con office. Now I wish I had taken all of them. If I can get a "I hate Con No Baka" button, I'll use it to pin my Con No Baka hall costume ribbon to my jacket at Ad Astra :)

There's a message at the www.connobaka.com forum under the "Toronto AnimeCon will honour Con No Baka badges" thread that says there were thefts of equipment (a video projector, a digicam) during the convention, and someone stole the convention's cash box on Sunday morning. This is unprecedented in Toronto fandom: looting at the convention. I feel so sorry for the concom and staff who lost their equipment, and losing the cashbox must really be awful for all involved. It certainly can't help.

Derwin.

Anime Dave
11-28-2005, 09:37 PM
Derwin, that is why I did the panelist reimbursments up in the Hamilton room. I knew full well that it would be absolute bedlam if I tried to handle it in an open area such as the main hallway.

But I don't care how sucky the situation gets, and I don't care if it was a disgruntled staff/volunteer/attendee, you just don't do that!

TribalButterfly
11-29-2005, 09:21 AM
That's pretty crappy that the con shut down early. Didn't the admissions fee have to cover all 3 days? People were getting jipped out of a day that they paid for - not that it sounds like many people would have wanted to attend a 3rd day anyways - but still!
I'd raise hell!

Good thing i decided I had more important things to take care of that weekend.

phaedrus
11-29-2005, 09:47 AM
'Con no Baka' indeed!

dani
12-04-2005, 09:58 PM
The guy from Animelondon has a nice shot of the fancy protography setup:
http://www.animelondon.ca/cosplay/cnb05/images/cnb05-223.jpg

Decibella
12-05-2005, 05:07 PM
wow, am i glad i did not set up a dealer booth at this nightmare of a con...

Otaking97
12-07-2005, 09:17 PM
I know it's a bit late in the game but I have a question about CnB.

From the V.Gaming aspect they had a DDR Step Mania game going and there were ALOT of anime titles in it. I want/need to know what version of the game that was? Was it a PC version or console? I MUST own it!