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Bear_
12-07-2005, 11:45 PM
Well, when Aaron told us just before we headed down to set-up that there would be no Sunday programming, we said "we're still going to try and put on the best dance these folks have ever had - and even more so now!". We thought that the best we could do was to at leas try and let everyone go home happy from the dance. We arrived there at 8pm like we were supposed to for set-up, didn't find out until close to 8:30 that the dance was now in a room instead, had no one to direct us and decided to throw the p.a. system together ourselves (The Colonel ROCKS! He can make anything sound great!), start the music and open the doors as soon as possible despite the fact that the lighting we were supposed to have was nowhere to be seen (something did show up later).

A special thanks to the folks who volunteered and moved the chairs! :rockon:

The Colonel & I have been putting on dances exclusively for cons since 1997 - Ad Astra, Toronto Trek, and Worldcon to name a few.

Even though we've started to include a lot more J-Pop in the repetoire (because it's now popular and we get asked for it - and because you want it!) this was our first foray into an all J-Pop dance. We really enjoyed the break dancing and the spontaneous light sabre duel, and you all seemed to enjoy yourselves - especially Yatta, and the conga line. I put a helluva lot of research into tuneage for this one, and was happy to play the C/Ds you brought.

So - what did you think? How did we do?

Keith, for
The Keith & Colonel Gary Show
Fandom's favourite way to dance the night away!:cheers:

FiaNari
12-08-2005, 11:56 AM
I was there and I had sooooo much fun. I was the dude with the Chi ears, so it would be hard to not recognize me, I took centre stage so many times I embarrase myself(damn peer pressure).

Natty Dread
12-08-2005, 03:27 PM
lol, i was there, i was the one they started tossing into the air to chants of "go prince van, go prince van" it was my first con dance, and i enjoyed myself immensly, out of curiosity, are you going to do the dance for anime north?

FiaNari
12-08-2005, 03:50 PM
Of course I am, but your probably referring to the creator of this thread. That was fun, the two guys lift up Nat after a friend and I, lift up Chibi Sasuke ftw!!

Dark-Fang
12-08-2005, 04:55 PM
I had fun... my friend Mark might have a different opinion.. heh heh... My fault for attempting to throw martial arts into fast dancing...

Lightsaber duel was cool, but I didn't care so much for the Numbchuck thing with the glow sticks... dance itself rocked though. Thanks a ton you guys.^^

novaraven1
12-08-2005, 06:00 PM
I had lots of fun at the dance! The equipment problems sucked. We all noticed that cd's were skipping and getting stuck and sometimes they were slow to be put on. But it was so worth waiting for! Overall the music was kick ass! And the other fans there made it rock!

I wish TT and Ad Astra had music that good, I might actually have stayed for their dances last year instead of hiding in the anime room all night.

Pompeii
12-08-2005, 06:01 PM
I LOVED the dacne on SAturday!
It was soooo fun
The music rocked too
Except when they played " My Will" That's juts not danceable XD

But still fun
XD

Blade Tiger
12-08-2005, 06:15 PM
The Saturday dance of Con no Baka was actually the first time I'd danced. Ever. But I had a great time. It was easily the best part of the convention for me, and that's coming from someone who actually enjoyed most of Con no Baka. (Please don't lynch me.)

Otaking97
12-08-2005, 06:41 PM
I thought the dance was alright. I figure half of the music was decent. However since it was fan choice it's not the people who put on the dances issue. Also no lighting is a bit boring I guess. The sound was decent. But I took up my spot infront of one of the speakers for the best spot. I like my music loud. Not the best, but not the worst either.

minion-chan
12-08-2005, 07:49 PM
The saturday dance was probably my favorite part of the con. It didn't seem like the best sound system for that type of room though.. :( I like the song choices decently... At some points it seemed like people were trying really really hard to make the music danceable though ^-^;; It was good music but some of the songs were a little too low-energy for such a high-energy crowd @-@ Anywho.. everyone was really into it and the conga line was great fun! n_n

Chibik3r0
12-08-2005, 07:58 PM
I thought the Saturday dance was the best part of CnB. My only qualm would have been with the request system. The music was great at times and a bit... subpar at others. I like the Zelda Ocarina song, but at a dance it was a bit odd -_-

Also, the "first come first serve" basis for requests was a bit tedious. I saw a person go in early and hand in a couple CDs while everyone else waited patiently outside. As a result, there were a good 5 or 6 songs taken once the rest of us got in. I found it a little unfair for anyone who would have lost out as a result of one person getting in early, but *shrug* nothing I can do about it now.

Also, as previously mentioned, a few issues with songs repeating/skipping, but meh... It didn't bother me.

Other than that, the dance was a great end to the con. As already mentioned, aside from very few bizarre/undanceable songs, the music selection was great and HUGE thanks to whoever put on Love Tropicana (the song everyone conga'ed to) :P I was kicking myself for not bringing it!

A special thanks to the folks who volunteered and moved the chairs! :rockon:

No problem ^_^ That would have been myself, Fressia_33, Ochika, and a few others who aren't on the forums. Just glad to help out and get the dance going!

Kia
12-09-2005, 10:37 AM
I wish TT and Ad Astra had music that good, I might actually have stayed for their dances last year instead of hiding in the anime room all night.
I agree (mostly) about the music choices (though I wasn't at the CnB dance, so I'm not exactly sure what they played there) but I think TT and Ad Astra have particular types of music based on the demographic. Mind you, Elemental and I have been shoving our music into the hands of the DJ's often enough now that they actually ASKED me at TT this year if I had any music I'd like them to play, which I really appreciated. It may not be an all anime dance, and I doubt it'll ever be one, but they're open to our suggestions and requests, which I love. ^_^

FiaNari
12-09-2005, 12:42 PM
I had fun... my friend Mark might have a different opinion.. heh heh... My fault for attempting to throw martial arts into fast dancing...

Lightsaber duel was cool, but I didn't care so much for the Numbchuck thing with the glow sticks... dance itself rocked though. Thanks a ton you guys.^^

A lot of us started the Martial Art thingy, it started on Friday actually with the "kung fu fighting". Were you the guy in the military fatigues?

Dark-Fang
12-09-2005, 10:24 PM
A lot of us started the Martial Art thingy, it started on Friday actually with the "kung fu fighting". Were you the guy in the military fatigues?No I was Sanji and I was wearing steel toed shoes so yeah I was just pulling kicks and chops into dancing I accidently made contact with my friend's ribs and he slid across the dance floor into a mosh pit... heh heh.^^;; I swear it was an accident and I didn't mean it.

Uzumaki83
12-09-2005, 11:38 PM
Whoa, it's pretty miraculous to read through these opinions. Almost all of these are pros; I repsect them very much. On the otherhand, there were mistakes that must be pointed out in order to improve for the next dance. Sou deshou? Chigau?? For the most part, I was disappointed from the music selection and sound quality.

It didn't seem like the best sound system for that type of room though.. :( I like the song choices decently... At some points it seemed like people were trying really really hard to make the music danceable though ^-^;; It was good music but some of the songs were a little too low-energy for such a high-energy crowd @-@

Minion's correct, the sound system didn't do that great because they boosted the bass too high that it resulted in "booming" effect/muffly/too many vowels heard. More treble is required for the booming sound to fade and for the consonants of the lyrics and instruments to be heard. It literally sounded like the speakers were pointed to the music coordinators instead of the dance crowd.
For Friday's dance, the music choices weren't THAT bad, but there were some rock songs that slowed down the mood. The AMv's shown was a BIG distraction. I enjoyed them, believe me, but it made everyone stop dancing to stare at the projection screen.
We needed more danceable music us kids listen and/or groove to these days. ie. J-hiphop, r&b, techno, trance, pop, etc. I'm sorry to say, but "anime music" to CNB is pop or happy gogo music that's very bouncy and cant really use your energy to burn through the night.
Because of the limited variety of music that Friday night, it ended with a couple dancing as I fled the scene.

My only qualm would have been with the request system. The music was great at times and a bit... subpar at others. I like the Zelda Ocarina song, but at a dance it was a bit odd -_-

Now for Saturday's dance. They did play the BGM of Zelda. It was put in at the oddest moment, it made my buddy go crazy and wanting to take over the dance lollol There was the projection screen again, but it wasn't there for visual purpose that time. It was there for the lighting system... PWAHAHAHAHA!!!! It was pointed to the bumpy wall that it was impossible to make out by looking at it. I found out what was being displayed by looking at the monitor screen where the music coordinator was. It blinded me and it was even dificult to dance with my head turned the other way, I had to borrow my friend's Zangetsu glasses to survive.
I know everyone doesn't listen to the same type of music, but a "dance" must have danceable tunes!! Not just a beat boxing Strongbad song or an RPG OST, no way! It's good to come over to your friend's house and watch them, but NOT at a dance. Music that kids enjoy can be found at raves & nightclubs. That'll get the crowd moving, not baby music that clears the crowd in a snap.
BTW, props to those people selling the pins that night. That was the highlight of the dance LMAO!!

Kohana
12-09-2005, 11:51 PM
I argee w/ Uzumaki83... more j-r&b music is needed!!

an_cafe
12-10-2005, 01:14 AM
I accidently made contact with my friend's ribs and he slid across the dance floor into a mosh pit... heh heh.^^;; I swear it was an accident and I didn't mean it.


hahaha yea i know u didint... man that hurt like a BTCH ><

jsispitz
12-10-2005, 02:15 AM
DUDE!!!! The dance kicked some serious ASS!!!! I mean, compared to those shit-ass dances in bloody high school! You could just walk up to people at the dance at the con and just start dancing with them and they wouldn't lookat you funny at all!. i think one of my fave parts was when the light sabre battle happened, dancing Sasuke and YATTA *oh yeah, spontaneous conga lines!!* And I hugged WAAAY too many people!!!
YATTA!

Amy the Yu
12-10-2005, 09:27 PM
I thought the dance went rather well. Everyone kind of went and rocked out, possibly cause they knew this was the end of their con, so to make the most use of what time they had left.

The request system didn't quite bomb as badly as I had expected...mostly cause most people took the time to think about what music would be dance appropriate before they stuck it on a CD to hand in. However, there was still the Zelda BGM which made me fall to the floor laughing before I started mocking it via retarded interpretive dance (and I can't dance) outside.

The way the same Gundam Seed song started playing 3 times (2 times was booed down) was a bit stupid too.

I think the request system worked okay, but possibly have people request BEFORE the dance next time so there's a chance to screen for possible bad music to skip over and to avoid repetition of popular songs.

Brita_Lee
12-10-2005, 10:07 PM
Me and my friends started dancing from a part of our skit we had made up before the con. People started joining us as they learned our moves! >_< It was wicked!

Bear_
12-13-2005, 02:14 PM
Hey!! I want to start out by saying a huge thank-you to all of you negative and positive who made comments. We really appreciate you taking the time to let us know your thoughts.

.....out of curiosity, are you going to do the dance for anime north?

I don't know! We always leave an opening with the conchair, and he knows how to contact us if he needs us. I have no idea if the personages who have been doing it the last number of years are doing it in 2006. Probably the best thing to do is to keep checking their website closer to the con. If we are asked to do it, you'll find out that way (or by our website, which is http://www.thekeithandgaryshow.ca)

I LOVED the dance on Saturday!
It was soooo fun
The music rocked too
Except when they played " My Will" That's juts not danceable XD

But still fun
XD

Aw, geez, thanks....
"My Will" was a request for a young couple that used it to have their first slow dance together - so even though most didn't enjoy it, two really did.

I thought the Saturday dance was the best part of CnB. My only qualm would have been with the request system. The music was great at times and a bit... subpar at others. I like the Zelda Ocarina song, but at a dance it was a bit odd -_-
.....Also, as previously mentioned, a few issues with songs repeating/skipping, but meh... It didn't bother me.

Also, the "first come first serve" basis for requests was a bit tedious. I saw a person go in early and hand in a couple CDs while everyone else waited patiently outside. As a result, there were a good 5 or 6 songs taken once the rest of us got in. I found it a little unfair for anyone who would have lost out as a result of one person getting in early, but *shrug* nothing I can do about it now.

Other than that, the dance was a great end to the con. As already mentioned, aside from very few bizarre/undanceable songs, the music selection was great and HUGE thanks to whoever put on Love Tropicana (the song everyone conga'ed to) :P I was kicking myself for not bringing it!

And.

I had lots of fun at the dance! The equipment problems sucked. We all noticed that cd's were skipping and getting stuck and sometimes they were slow to be put on. But it was so worth waiting for!

Ah, yes....
What we had ordered and been promised for p.a. and lighting, and what we actually ended up working with were two different things. You're right, as mentioned the system was inadequate for the room but we were trying to do the best we could with what we had. I'm happy you like the Zelda song, but someone else mentioned they didn't - but people kept dancing!!

Yeah, the guy who came in with his numerous requests had already been sent away two previous times. When he came in the next time, he told us security told him to come in. I gave up and decided how to handle things - we only promised him one song. He made a few others, and they were put aside (to the end of the line) with the understanding that he's already made his primary request, and if anyone else makes one they get priority.

And, as was mentioned in the various blurbs, if anything was found to be undanceable it was quickly faded and replaced. So if the dancefloor was full of people dancing, then we considered that danceable.

You can thank Nick and the gang from Anime NO Grimsby for Love Tropicana!

... Now for Saturday's dance. They did play the BGM of Zelda. It was put in at the oddest moment, it made my buddy go crazy and wanting to take over the dance.

...I know everyone doesn't listen to the same type of music, but a "dance" must have danceable tunes!! Not just a beat boxing Strongbad song or an RPG OST, no way! It's good to come over to your friend's house and watch them, but NOT at a dance. Music that kids enjoy can be found at raves & nightclubs. That'll get the crowd moving, not baby music that clears the crowd in a snap.

As mentioned previously - you didn't like it, someone else stated that specific song with thanks that we played it. We would have played rave & nightclub music if it weren't for one thing - this was a J-Pop dance, not a rave or a nightclub. But we did play a few of those songs - Feel Good Inc. comes to mind. Hey, it would have been easy for you to give us a C/D with that kind of tuneage on it and have us play it, too.

See? Everyone is different - the majority of folks think we did a pretty good J-Pop dance. You didn't like it because we played J-Pop. Well, what did you expect at a J-Pop dance? But you're right - that's what you like and expected, sorry you were disappointed.

I agree w/ Uzumaki83... more j-r&b music is needed!!

Hey, then would you folks mind listing a few? Not a few thousand - but one or two each that you think are the hits, the best, the ones that make the crowd go nuts? Let me know your favourite J-Pop, etc. and Ill give it a listen and if its good, Ill put it in our inventory.

I thought the dance went rather well......

The way the same Gundam Seed song started playing 3 times (2 times was booed down) was a bit stupid too.

Yep, that's the equipment again. I knew people really wanted to hear that song, and I basically looked at the C/D player after a couple of false starts and told it I wasn't going to take "no" for an answer - and it worked!


I think the request system worked okay, but possibly have people request BEFORE the dance next time so there's a chance to screen for possible bad music to skip over and to avoid repetition of popular songs.

That's what I've done for all the other cons. The problem is not everyone responds to the posting on the website or the e-mail news updates and sends the stuff - they wait until the con. So when they hand me their C/D I have to decide if I'm going to take a chance or not. This time I decided to try and do that, but I did it with my hand on the fader and the next song ready to go - and I ended up using that fader more than a few times! Do I say "no" from now on and disappoint a lot of people, or do I take the C/D and take a chance that the dancefloor might clear? I'll bet that if we asked opinions we'd get a 50-50% split - so it's one of those things where I'll never be able to make everyone happy.

Overall the music was kick ass! And the other fans there made it rock.
I wish TT and Ad Astra had music that good, I might actually have stayed for their dances last year instead of hiding in the anime room all night.

This is too funny, because The Keith & Gary Show are the ones who do those dances!! Weve been looking after TT for eight years, and this past Ad Astra 2005 was our return to looking after those dances after a few years hiatus. (We already know that were doing the TT 2006 dance, and are waiting for an e-mail any day now about us doing the AA200 dance.) As mentioned by Kia, yes, we always play to the attendees. Both those cons have a totally different expectation of what they want at a dance. However, there are starting to be more Anime-loving J-Poppers showing up, and accordingly we have altered our repertoire to include more of that music. But the way we operate is pretty simple we always try and put on the kind of dance you want to hear. So, if you want to hear it, come up and ask us for it! If we dont have it, you have the option of getting us to bring it next time.

Any more comments by all means, please go right ahead!!

Sarcasm-hime
12-13-2005, 05:36 PM
.....out of curiosity, are you going to do the dance for anime north?


I don't know! We always leave an opening with the conchair, and he knows how to contact us if he needs us. I have no idea if the personages who have been doing it the last number of years are doing it in 2006. Probably the best thing to do is to keep checking their website closer to the con. If we are asked to do it, you'll find out that way (or by our website, which is http://www.thekeithandgaryshow.ca)


As one of those 'personages' that have DJ'd the AN dance since the beginning, AFAIK we are still doing it in 2006.

Kohana
12-14-2005, 02:11 AM
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FiaNari
12-14-2005, 02:49 PM
DUDE!!!! The dance kicked some serious ASS!!!! I mean, compared to those shit-ass dances in bloody high school! You could just walk up to people at the dance at the con and just start dancing with them and they wouldn't lookat you funny at all!. i think one of my fave parts was when the light sabre battle happened, dancing Sasuke and YATTA *oh yeah, spontaneous conga lines!!* And I hugged WAAAY too many people!!!
YATTA!


Yeah and I hugged everyone you hugged.
2cents:the Zelda song was beyond random, other than that not much negative, I mean music that the rest of the world likes wouldn't work in a anime-fan crowd. The AMV were distracting, but c'mon they were so cool, if people won't dance cause of a screen, they just wouldn't dance anyways.

Amy the Yu
12-14-2005, 04:56 PM
Hey, then would you folks mind listing a few? Not a few thousand - but one or two each that you think are the hits, the best, the ones that make the crowd go nuts? Let me know your favourite J-Pop, etc. and Ill give it a listen and if its good, Ill put it in our inventory.Totally off for most types of dance music, but I've been thinking for about a year now that at some point, if there's going to be a slow dance song, someone should use "Let Me be with You" from Ikki Tousen. It strikes me as the ultamite perfect slow dance song and it's anime too. X3

Uzumaki83
12-14-2005, 06:06 PM
You didn't like it because we played J-Pop. Well, what did you expect at a J-Pop dance? But you're right - that's what you like and expected, sorry you were disappointed.


Ehehe... NO. As a matter of fact, I do listen to JPop, but not those anime OPs with bouncy & baby style to it, that's all. That type was the majority of Saturday's request dance, in the beginning at least.
JPop dances doesn't necessarily mean JUST STRICTLY "Japanese Pop" music. Rather, more of a popular music approach. We needed dancable music to dance to.

Amy the Yu
12-14-2005, 06:27 PM
Ehehe... NO. As a matter of fact, I do listen to JPop, but not those anime OPs with bouncy & baby style to it, that's all. That type was the majority of Saturday's request dance, in the beginning at least.
JPop dances doesn't necessarily mean JUST STRICTLY "Japanese Pop" music. Rather, more of a popular music approach. We needed dancable music to dance to.I've heard a lot of similar complaints (about 5 new people join the complaints list every year) cause if you go by request, everyone tends to bring in good music...that's not dancable. X3

FiaNari
12-16-2005, 02:02 PM
Well in almost all songs there were people dancing, I guess one makes the best of all situations, it was my brotha's b-day on the Saturday and he wanted to request "in da club" but they didn't have it, oh well.

Kohana
12-16-2005, 02:30 PM
you mean by 50 cent?... dude its a Jpop dance

Natty Dread
12-17-2005, 12:26 AM
As one of those 'personages' that have DJ'd the AN dance since the beginning, AFAIK we are still doing it in 2006.
ok! thats cool!:rockon:

FiaNari
12-17-2005, 12:50 AM
you mean by 50 cent?... dude its a Jpop dance


I guess, I guess, but isn't that a bit restricting? Not that I casually listen to rap anyways, but the song was just fit for the occasion(That or "Yeah" by Usher).

Kohana
12-17-2005, 03:07 AM
I guess, I guess, but isn't that a bit restricting? Not that I casually listen to rap anyways, but the song was just fit for the occasion(That or "Yeah" by Usher).

thats what "Rapanese" (japanese rap)/j-r&b is for....

FiaNari
12-17-2005, 10:51 AM
thats what "Rapanese" (japanese rap)/j-r&b is for....


But I don't know any of those songs...:bigcry:
I guess I got quite some learnin and researchin to do.

Kohana
12-17-2005, 11:22 AM
no problem... I'll make a super long list and PM it to ya

FiaNari
12-17-2005, 12:45 PM
Awesome, it's actually my first year coning, though it's been pretty crazy(this one started loving anime since 1993 with Samurai Pizza Cats and 1995 with Knights of the Zodiac Spanish ver., never got around to buying anime/manga or coning till this year, so a lot of these things are kinda new to me).

jsispitz
12-18-2005, 12:50 AM
Yeah and I hugged everyone you hugged.
2cents:the Zelda song was beyond random, other than that not much negative, I mean music that the rest of the world likes wouldn't work in a anime-fan crowd. The AMV were distracting, but c'mon they were so cool, if people won't dance cause of a screen, they just wouldn't dance anyways.

My persocom! *huggles Fia*:angel: :rockon:

jsispitz
12-18-2005, 12:51 AM
Awesome, it's actually my first year coning, though it's been pretty crazy(this one started loving anime since 1993 with Samurai Pizza Cats and 1995 with Knights of the Zodiac Spanish ver., never got around to buying anime/manga or coning till this year, so a lot of these things are kinda new to me).

Dude!!! Samurai Pizza cats!!!:rockon:

FiaNari
12-18-2005, 07:30 PM
My persocom! *huggles Fia*:angel: :rockon:


The one and only, *huggles back*:cheers:

Bear_
12-24-2005, 04:11 PM
Hey all, thanks for your input - much appreciated!
If you want to help out with future tuneage research then please by all means post some of what you consider the best tuneage on here so I can have a listen to it.
(And thanks for the info about the A/N dance - last I heard a little while back, no decision had been made yet. Good luck - and I sincerely hope Roupen doesn't have the p.a. problems he had last year again......)

http://www.thekeithandgaryshow.ca

yellownectarine
01-12-2006, 11:31 PM
This was my first Anime Dance. No offence, because I know alot of shit went down and you were doing you best, but the music hurt my ears. It was all fuzzy. Plus I was trampled in the conga line and hurt my knee pretty bad. I dunno, I guess that sort of thing just isn't for me. I'm gonna try again at the AN dance though, I'm not put off that easily.