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Dixie
06-16-2006, 04:24 PM
I know there are threads on where to buy them, but I want to make mine. I was looking for a pattern, or atleast a close pattern for the long hooded trench coat. Yet I found nothing they were to short or looked way off.

I went on,

Simplicity.com
McCall's.com
and yahoo-ed it

and I came up with nothing...:bigcry:

Please, could someone tell me where to get a pattern? :angel:

Also if there is a thread on this already, I am sorry for reposting.

Dixie
06-16-2006, 04:59 PM
Umm what is Bill Murry? Is that like a pattern maker?

[Toshi.Muffin]
06-16-2006, 05:48 PM
My best suggestion ish to go to an actua fabric store and look though the costume or pattern books. o_O;

cherry_starr
06-16-2006, 09:24 PM
I think i saw a thread with a site that had anime patterns on it. Now it didnt have the Organization's coat, but it did have Ed from FMA's, im sure you could modify that pattern. Patterns are Here (http://www.cosplay.janchan.com/characters.html)

But im sure there is something similar out there, and even if its too short on the pattern lengthening it isnt that hard =P

R1KKu
06-16-2006, 10:37 PM
Alot of people, including myself, have been using Simplicity 5386, which resembles a Matrix trench coat, but you can always modify the pattern. It doesnt come with a hood pattern, so you either need to make your own or find a pattern that will work.

Nie
06-17-2006, 06:59 AM
Actually I'am also working on the same thing. Best bet. Go to a fabric store and buy lotsa black vinyl.

Dixie
06-17-2006, 11:20 AM
Thank you so much for the help! I think i'll go with the Matrix coat pattern and tweek it alittle. :)

Would the coat be vinal or suede? When I look at the pictures of the coat it looks a like suede to me, but I could be misinterpreting it.

R1KKu
06-17-2006, 12:14 PM
Thank you so much for the help! I think i'll go with the Matrix coat pattern and tweek it alittle. :)

Would the coat be vinal or suede? When I look at the pictures of the coat it looks a like suede to me, but I could be misinterpreting it.

I think suede would be quite costly and too warm to wear, but Ive never used it so I dont know. I definately suggest a clothing matte(not shiny) vinyl/pvc. The coats look great in it IMO. The vinyl you see at Joanns is usually too thick and stiff, and wouldnt make a great coat. Its usually that marine vinyl or that fluffy backing vinyl. I suggest you search online for your fabric unless there are other fabric stores near you that might carry the stuff.

meowl
06-24-2006, 10:58 AM
I am making my own pattern from measurements and studying the pics. Sleeves were a pain, as was accomodating my son's 50 inch chest. I found that the coat can be seen as having six segments: two front, two back and two side. This allows me to make one skirt pattern for six gores. This causes a waist seam, but that reduces fabric waste and we are not aiming for masquerade. I'm using a linen-like fabric since we value comfort (AX in July is hot).

phantomthief
06-24-2006, 11:03 AM
Yup. Definately the Matrix coat. I've done *most* of my altering to it and made a master pattern/mock-up. I think it worked well ^.^

http://images.cosplay.com/showphoto.php?photo=703342

~Ari-chan

Miss Valentine
06-24-2006, 06:19 PM
I'm currently using the Matrix pattern for my boyfriend's Axel costume and it's working just fine! I bought some semi-more expensive vinyl to use for it. Something with some stretch but it looks clean and not the "wet look" stuff. Like R1kku said, stay away from the ugly vinyl with the fuzz on the back. It's expensive and terrible quality. The stuff I bought is slightly on the thinner side, but it holds together great :) Good luck!

Dixie
06-24-2006, 06:42 PM
phantomthief Your coat came out really good! :bigtu: :bigtu:

I got the Matrix patern, and I decided for material i'm going to try upholstery suede, it is expensive, but i found it pretty cheap on ebay. AlsoI got a swatch of it and it seems that it wont get hot, and is durable enough. :toothy:

Makko
06-24-2006, 06:56 PM
Hmm, I might go as an Orginisation XIII member when I go to my first con. Trouble is, next year I need to save for a trip to france for 5 days and then I need to save up for the con. Is there a way I can get the patterns for free?

Rain Miko
06-24-2006, 07:04 PM
Makko- Probably not, but you can usually find them cheap at fabric stores. Patterns typically don't run for more than $12 US (about 10 Euro).

Makko
06-24-2006, 07:20 PM
Damn, thats money I could be spending in france! For all I know there could be a comic book store :o. Anyway, back on subject, would it be worth just using the Ed Coat that cherry_starr posted or investing in the £10?

Rain Miko
06-24-2006, 11:28 PM
If you don't have much sewing experiance, it's probably easier to get a pattern that wont need to be modified as much. That way, you save yourself from a lot of fustration.

Makko
06-25-2006, 07:28 AM
I found:
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/1523/orginisationxiicoat1xj.th.jpg (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=orginisationxiicoat1xj.jpg)

That looks like it will do, all I need know is a pattern for a hood. Also to lose a little weight.

Rain Miko
06-25-2006, 09:24 AM
Oooh, that is a good pattern. Speaking of which, I'm going to JoAnns today to go get my pattern/fabric. I'll have to get the double-zipper online, though >_<

Makko
06-25-2006, 04:15 PM
Oooooo, good luck finding a good pattern and some material. I'm ganna have to wait a couple years before I got my convention.

spheris
06-25-2006, 06:17 PM
I know there are threads on where to buy them, but I want to make mine. I was looking for a pattern, or atleast a close pattern for the long hooded trench coat. Yet I found nothing they were to short or looked way off.

I went on,

Simplicity.com
McCall's.com
and yahoo-ed it

and I came up with nothing...:bigcry:

Please, could someone tell me where to get a pattern? :angel:

Also if there is a thread on this already, I am sorry for reposting.

:confused: :confused: :confused:
If you have seen where to buy them can you tell me where I can find that information?:angel:

Vikku
06-25-2006, 06:34 PM
I'd like some info too on where to buy them. I'd love to get one for my husband!

Dixie
06-29-2006, 10:31 AM
:confused: :confused: :confused:
If you have seen where to buy them can you tell me where I can find that information?:angel:


Well all the threads I read all point to Abbyshot (http://www.abbyshot.com/products/l-animestyle.php) , but they seem really expensive...I saw some on E-bay (http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?cgiurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2 F&fkr=1&from=R8&satitle=kingdom+hearts+cosplay&category0=) that were much cheaper, and they look the same.


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Also where do people get the beads for the coat? I haven't really seen anything like them around me, so I was wondering if there was a store on-line or some thing. :confused:

R1KKu
06-29-2006, 01:48 PM
Well all the threads I read all point to Abbyshot (http://www.abbyshot.com/products/l-animestyle.php) , but they seem really expensive...I saw some on E-bay (http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?cgiurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2 F&fkr=1&from=R8&satitle=kingdom+hearts+cosplay&category0=) that were much cheaper, and they look the same.


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Also where do people get the beads for the coat? I haven't really seen anything like them around me, so I was wondering if there was a store on-line or some thing. :confused:


There have been 1 or 2 ebay sellers that many have questioned on these forums, as in, they have been stealing photos from others and using them as their own, so the pictures you see on ebay are probably the same as the ones for the Abbyshot coat.


Similar beads can be found at Joanns. The ones Im using are silver, come in different shapes and sizes, and have this tribal design on them. I forgot what the package labeled them as. Sorry.

VorpalBlade
07-07-2006, 02:29 AM
Recommended fabric: Leather. You can buy it surprisingly cheap, and it makes the costume look amazing. Just be able to withstand heat and a lot of sweat.

Cora
07-07-2006, 03:44 AM
I vote for the pleather from spandexhouse.com or stretchhouse.com. I used it for my Axel cosplay and it worked great ^^; A tad expensive, but I think it'll hold up better than real leather because it's harder to ruin ^^

Anyway...for a pattern, I it from a woman's coat...I think it was a Simplicity pattern. I can't remember the number right off the top of my head, but it worked fine for me once I "flattened" the lines in front so that it didn't account for room for the breasts. I got it to work out great because it already had the lines that I needed for the front of the coat.

For the beads I used a combination of different ones, but I would recommend getting a set of cone beads for the "drawstrings" and combining them with other beads to get the right look. I ended up with more beads than I needed, but the ones that worked out the best were the faux metal bali beads that I got at Michaels. I looked and looked online for suitable metal beads with little success. A few of my beads were metal so that gave it some weight, but a lot of them ended up being plastic as well.

Dixie
07-11-2006, 08:41 AM
Thanks for the tips! They really help! :toothy:

I do have question though, what color is the zipper? Because in this pic (http://img82.imageshack.us/my.php?image=75he1.jpg) it looks silver, but in this one (http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/9814/o074jh.png) it looks black. :confused: :confused:

blackouts suck
07-11-2006, 12:17 PM
im pretty sure that there silver because theres alot more pics with silver then black. and plus silver makes it look a bit cooler

R1KKu
07-11-2006, 12:46 PM
Thanks for the tips! They really help! :toothy:

I do have question though, what color is the zipper? Because in this pic (http://img82.imageshack.us/my.php?image=75he1.jpg) it looks silver, but in this one (http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/9814/o074jh.png) it looks black. :confused: :confused:


Really, it shouldnt matter. Ive seen people use both colors and they equally look good on the coats. My opinion, go with the black; it looks cooler, lol.

Cora, do you suppose you can find that pattern number for me? I altered the matrix coat pattern but you say this one has the correct lines for the front?? Im curious about this pattern, since it's a female coat pattern, and Ive been making more coats for females. Thanks much!!

Tenel Ka
07-13-2006, 06:03 PM
Yessss, can I pleeeease beg you for the patten number too, Cora? Your coat looks all kinds of awesome and every pattern I come across has some glaring error in it. And I know if I tried to fix the error somehow I'd just really screw it up. XD

spheris
07-13-2006, 08:47 PM
which place did you order your pleather from,spandexhouse.com or stretchhouse.com?

PapricA
07-14-2006, 09:14 AM
I working on my coat too^^ Today I bought my fabrics. I'm using black pleather (it was hard to find... cost 12€ for a metre and I needed 4m) and black lining fabric (did i write it right...?). I made my patters myself :P

Cora
07-14-2006, 01:29 PM
Yessss, can I pleeeease beg you for the patten number too, Cora? Your coat looks all kinds of awesome and every pattern I come across has some glaring error in it. And I know if I tried to fix the error somehow I'd just really screw it up. XD

Yikes! Glad I checked back here XD It's been a while.

Pattern number pattern number, let me look it up real quick, hopefully it's online. I think it's Butterick 4688 or something...


Yep! B4688: LINK (http://store.sewingtoday.com/cgi-bin/butterick/shop.cgi?s.item.B4688=x&TI=10006&page=1)

For the general record, I had to "flatten" the line of the first two pieces that make up the front paneling of the coat because the way that they fit together curves out extra to allow for a woman's bosom (Which, seeing as few of the Oraganization members are female, it needs adjusting. heh.). I actually traced the pattern onto tracing paper so that I could make alterations without compromising the original. I've been meaning to take pictures and make a small "tutorial" for it, but I've been a little busy trying to move my stuff out of the house I stayed in for college this last year back home before I go to Japan in 6 weeks (eep!).

I'm hoping to maybe get the pictures/tutorial that better explains what I did soon (taking pictures maybe tomorrow if I can remember). It's actually very easy, just hard to explain :3 You also have to extend the pieces a bit, but that's not hard either.

If I forget about this topic for a while, just drop me a PM or an email to remind me :D

edit: oops! I forgot to say, I ordered my pleather from spandexhouse.com. I got 6 yards which was waaaaaaaaaay too much. I haven't had the opportunity (and probably won't before I leave) to measure how much I had left to give a semi-accurate estimate of how much pleather I actually used. I'm estimating that I still had at least a yard, maybe a yard and a half left over. Also, be sure to order your pleather with plenty of time to receive it via normal shipping. I waited too long and decided to do next-day shipping, which was $38 @_@ so don't be like me!

meowl
07-19-2006, 01:26 AM
Using the black linen-like fabric worked out great. At AX2006, the Org 13 cosplayers were really suffering from the heat. My son was nice and comfy. Here are some pics:
http://images.cosplay.com/gallery.php?cat=46777&member=36718
Looking sat the pics again, that fabric drapes well.

KHs_Sora
07-22-2006, 09:13 PM
Does anyone have any good pics of the coat...... I need ref pics >.<

Dixie
07-23-2006, 09:23 AM
Here are the pics I use for referance,

Pic1 (http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/7659/29og0.jpg)

Pic 2 (http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/1513/49wm8.jpg)

Pic 3 (http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/1230/c0007709lm4.jpg)

Pic 4 (http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=18sn2.png)

I hope they help! :toothy:

Rain Miko
07-24-2006, 01:19 AM
I might be going for my fabric tomorrow, YAY! I know last time I was at JoAnns, they actually had a fair amount of black leathery-type stuff there (I'm not fussy, as long as it's black, leather-like, and cheap).

I suppose I'll have to get a liner, though. everything I saw had white backing, eep ._.

gamerpanda
07-24-2006, 11:00 PM
I'm going to make this for my boyfriend's little brother for Halloween. Any ideas for converting these adult-size coats to something smaller?

Or maybe they have some similar style coats for children?

By the way, meowl, how much did that linen fabric cost you. I'm thinking that, even though it'll be October, since it's just a Halloween Costume, I want to go with something a little cheaper than pleather.

But, wow, Cora. Your Axel costume looks really nice, as does phantomthief's.

You guys were a lot of help. I'm glad there was already a thread on this so I didn't have to wait for responses! ^_^

Tenel Ka
07-24-2006, 11:15 PM
Thank you very much for the pattern number Cora! :D

Uruwashii|Yuna
07-24-2006, 11:19 PM
What about Polyurethane? That would be good...Even thought it doesn't look like leather, it's shineh. I hope I helped. :bigtu:

Winter Divinity
07-25-2006, 02:30 AM
If I were to go with suede, which side would be good for the outside? The softer side or smoother? I want to make the smoother/shiny side outside but I don't know, i'd feel ridiculous becuz then it might look inside-out?

gamerpanda
07-25-2006, 08:53 PM
I made my patters myself :P

Wow, maybe you can make a step-by-step guide to making the coat? That would probably be VERY helpful to MANY people if you have the time to do it! ^_^

Dixie
07-26-2006, 05:51 PM
If I were to go with suede, which side would be good for the outside? The softer side or smoother? I want to make the smoother/shiny side outside but I don't know, i'd feel ridiculous becuz then it might look inside-out?


I am making mine with saude and I only had one choice sense it was lined with white fabric, but it is soft and shinny. I have picks in my gallery with the fabric if you want to see what it looks like.

Also,

can someone tell me if my coat is to short? I pinned it up so I wouldn't trip when I walk, but I don't know if it is to short now...

her is a pic

http://images.cosplay.com/showphoto.php?photo=778619

Rain Miko
07-26-2006, 05:58 PM
Doesn't look too short to me. His pants look like they hit just above the ankle.

Anyway, I got my fabric and huge zipper. Whoo! I couldn't find the right pattern, so I *might* just wing it (it doesn't look *too* hard). Anyone have tips on the hood, though? It appears to be three panels, but ugh. I hate hoods T_T

Dixie
07-26-2006, 07:07 PM
I hate hoods T_T

I second that!

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For my hood I just cut two pieces shaped like this, (More or less like the letter "D")





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and one like this,


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Then I just put them together.:)

Winter Divinity
07-26-2006, 07:08 PM
I am making mine with saude and I only had one choice sense it was lined with white fabric, but it is soft and shinny. I have picks in my gallery with the fabric if you want to see what it looks like.

Also,

can someone tell me if my coat is to short? I pinned it up so I wouldn't trip when I walk, but I don't know if it is to short now...

her is a pic

http://images.cosplay.com/showphoto.php?photo=778619


Is your fabric black? It looks like dark brown. Or is it just the light?

Dixie
07-26-2006, 07:54 PM
yeah it's black, my camera isn't taking good shots. I don't know why, maybe it is the light.

But if you see it in person it is black.

Rain Miko
07-26-2006, 08:56 PM
I second that!

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For my hood I just cut two pieces shaped like this, (More or less like the letter "D")





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: .
: .
: .
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and one like this,


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! !
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Then I just put them together.:)



I love you.


No srsly.



I just did the mock-up for my coat, and the hood came out absolutely *horrible*. I had to wing the whole entire thing, and (other than the sleeves) , it was the only thing that I was really dissatisfied with. But thanks! I'll have to remake it tomorrow, since the vinyl I bought is too expensive to not have a 100% accurate mock-up ;____;

Oh yes, one more thing. Anyone have any tips on sewing on sleeves? I have no idea why, but mine really didn't want to cooperate with me this time.

Cora
07-26-2006, 10:14 PM
But, wow, Cora. Your Axel costume looks really nice, as does phantomthief's.

You guys were a lot of help. I'm glad there was already a thread on this so I didn't have to wait for responses! ^_^

Thank you! ^^;

Thank you very much for the pattern number Cora! :D

No problem! ^^

Yeah, hoods are a pain. Mine didn't come out as well as I wanted it to with the lining and everything, but Axel doesn't really wear his hood, and my wig covers how horrible it looks XD I couldn't figure out how to make the hood, but luckily the hood for my winter coat is the exact same structure as the organization ones. It's just like Dixie showed ^^

For sleeves...I'm amazed that mine come out as well as they do because I *hate* sewing sleeves on. What I do is make sure to match up the seams on the underside. You're supposed to pay attention to the marks from the pattern and match them up, but they generally don't for me. It's going to bunch at some point on the sleeve generally, so make sure if you have overlap from the sleeve that it does so on the underside....

...dunno if that makes any sense, but I find that I can't explain anything very well XD I have to physically show things to get anything across ^^;


...my local news just said that one town about 45 minutes away from me is thinking about a Star Trek museum. (sorry, random and off topic, I just thought it was weird XD).

meowl
07-27-2006, 12:21 AM
Gamerpanda asked what I spent on black, linen-like fabric. About $4 a yard. My son is 6ft 3in, so I used up about 5 yards.

Rain Miko
07-27-2006, 09:34 AM
I got my vinyl for only $4/yd (it was on sale) and I only needed 4 yards (I even have a ton extra) but I'm only 5'1", so yeah.

Dixie
07-27-2006, 04:08 PM
I have a question! I'm almost done with my coat, but I need to make the inside black. Because the fabric I used had a white fabric liner thing.

I was thinking of making black dye and using a spray bottle to dye it black. Or I could get more black liner material, but what kind? Cotton? Also can I just glue the liner in? Instead of sewing?

Cora
07-27-2006, 05:12 PM
I used a thin lining for my coat...it was near the special occasion fabrics in JoAnns. The stuff is annoyingly slippery, but it's thin enough so that it won't make the coat completely unbearble to be in. You probably could have sewn it to the individual pieces before you started putting the coat together, otherwise you can do something similar to what I did, which is basically I made another coat out of the lining and then sewed the two together at the edge of the hood and the bottom of the coat. To finish the sleeves you'll have to turn them in, or do them sepearately (my lining is basically the bane of the entire costume, so I'm sure there's a better way to do it than I did).

I wouldn't glue it in because glue probably wouldn't be as flexible or long-lasting as sewing it in. I don't know about the dyeing...but I wouldn't recommend it...especially if you used a vinyl or pleather fabric.

Dixie
07-28-2006, 09:32 AM
I actually do have liner material, and I pinned it in and it looks really nice now! It covered up all the seams. It would had made sense to line fromt the beginning, but I forgot. ^_^;;

Thanks Cora!

Cora
07-28-2006, 11:58 AM
I actually do have liner material, and I pinned it in and it looks really nice now! It covered up all the seams. It would had made sense to line fromt the beginning, but I forgot. ^_^;;

Thanks Cora!

Yep! ^^ I wish I knew more about lining, because mine is horrendous XD I want to rip it out, but I'm lazy and it works well enough XD Lining is also great for Orgy Coats because I got so hot in mine, and only the lining got gross, so I didn't have to worry about the pleather soaking up any BO, and I could just easily wipe it down with a damp cloth. Depending on how hot I get at AnimeIowa, I might take my coat in to be cleaned. Can you dry-clean pleather?? Maybe I will just rip out the lining and put a new one in XD After I come back from Japan :3

Winter Divinity
07-28-2006, 01:34 PM
I just realized something... This thread sayd Organization XII not XIII.

Anyways, what do you guys recommend for lining? I was going to use broadcloth, or maybe something thinner?

Okami Yokai
07-28-2006, 02:05 PM
I suggest not using vinyl since that's not what the cloaks in the game are made out of. in the game there is no sheen to the cloaks, its made from a thick black knit, the stuff hoodies are made out of.

kacfrog711
07-28-2006, 02:51 PM
...I don't know what they're made of in the game, but I don't think it's anything knit. In the Deep Dive video, the rain rolls off the coat. (Sexiest CG animation ever. <3<3)

KinkyxXxWaffles
07-28-2006, 02:57 PM
I seriously just relate it to the material I see in Hot Topic trench Coats, but then I think of suede at the same time. I've never thought of vinyl for it, though. But, I dunno. I'm not handling the coats for my group, it'll be up to my friend's mother. Shes better at sewing than me, and I'm pretty much the official prop maker for my group.

Cora
07-28-2006, 06:45 PM
I just realized something... This thread sayd Organization XII not XIII.

Anyways, what do you guys recommend for lining? I was going to use broadcloth, or maybe something thinner?

(I noticed that too - apparently they kicked off a member. any votes who? XD)

I see you asked about lining and not the actual material of the coat itself.

As I said in an earlier post, I used a thin lining that I think is nylon or something similar (synthetic) that I found near the special occasion fabrics section of JoAnns. There was a whole section to itself for just linings. The fabric is thin and slippery and doesn't stretch, though you can buy stretchy lining (you don't need it for the coat though). The lining was a bit of a pain in the butt to work with because it was slippery, but I was glad I put it on because (as I also mentioned in an earlier post) I got very hot in my coat, and the lining prevented the sweat from getting into the pleather, and it's easy to clean. It also breathes easily, so it's not a thick extra layer inside an already thick garment.

Dixie
07-28-2006, 07:08 PM
haha the Oragaization XII was my fault.... ^_^;;; I acutally never realized that until now...I vote Xaldin out! >.<

Cora
07-28-2006, 07:19 PM
XD YOU! Out of my Orgy now!

Okay, so that comes out a little wrong. I like to call Organization 13 Orgy 13...'cause I'm weird like that.

wookay...I should go finish my boots for Axel :D

Winter Divinity
07-28-2006, 08:15 PM
XD YOU! Out of my Orgy now!

Okay, so that comes out a little wrong. I like to call Organization 13 Orgy 13...'cause I'm weird like that.


haha! Me too, cuz I'm lazy to spell out organization.
Wait, I just did it. D'oh.

Trir
07-28-2006, 09:58 PM
I just tried and finished my first attempt at making an Orgy13 coat (Since first seeing it called that I just like it). it came out...ok, I guess.
Went with Vinyl with a light cotton fabric for liner, sewn into place.

Biggest issue was the seams and gettign them right. Whole coat was one big puzzle I was trying to sew together. Secondly was the fitting. Giving it that snug look around the torso eluded me >.<

Oh and its shiny.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/Trir/Photo%20Gallery/Cosplay/Picture001.jpg

Winter Divinity
07-28-2006, 10:10 PM
Wow yours is very shiney 0_0. hehe, but I love the chain. Where did you get that?

I think we've started a new trend.. Orgy 13.. hehehe

Trir
07-28-2006, 10:46 PM
Wow yours is very shiney 0_0. hehe, but I love the chain. Where did you get that?

I think we've started a new trend.. Orgy 13.. hehehe


Im trying to figure somethign last minute to maybe dull the shine..thou Im comig up blank at moment.
As for chains the necklace is a choker chain I got at a pet store. As for one for pull strings just some small chain I got at local Joann's fabric store.

Cora
07-29-2006, 12:50 AM
Im trying to figure somethign last minute to maybe dull the shine..thou Im comig up blank at moment.
As for chains the necklace is a choker chain I got at a pet store. As for one for pull strings just some small chain I got at local Joann's fabric store.

How did you do the beads? They look great! I can't sculpt anything, so my beads are a mixture of metal beads I found online, and plastic faux metal ones I glued together. Which reminds me, I should probably fix those before my next convention next weekend.

Winter Divinity
07-29-2006, 01:00 AM
Im trying to figure somethign last minute to maybe dull the shine..thou Im comig up blank at moment.
As for chains the necklace is a choker chain I got at a pet store. As for one for pull strings just some small chain I got at local Joann's fabric store.

If you used pvc, it'll dull itself over time. Keep it somewhere w/ a lot of moisture, like hanging in the bathroom when you take a shower. Taking a hot shower will also take out the wrinkles.

Rain Miko
07-29-2006, 01:29 AM
Trir- Yours is made of like, the same *exact* material as mine o-0

And the sleeves are thurning out to be harder than I thought. The ones I have on now are actually my third attempt >_>

RizuChan
07-29-2006, 02:10 AM
This will probably end up being my first cosplay outfit, as long as it doesn't prove too difficult. Thanks everyone for helping!
I guess I'll go with the Simplicity 5386. The only thing I'm worried about is the chain, and material..If I get it done in time, I'll wear it to NY's Comic Con, but if not, I should get it done in time for Animenext in June.

Dixie
07-29-2006, 09:43 AM
I finished up the liner, and I found out that it messes up the whole flow of the coat. :eek: So now I have to rip it out.

I think i'm going to try and cut the fabric up and glue the pieces in. That should make it fit better, and there wont be as much stress on it. Though if i'm wrong, well let's not think about that! >o<

Cora
07-29-2006, 11:37 AM
I finished up the liner, and I found out that it messes up the whole flow of the coat. :eek: So now I have to rip it out.

I think i'm going to try and cut the fabric up and glue the pieces in. That should make it fit better, and there wont be as much stress on it. Though if i'm wrong, well let's not think about that! >o<

Yeah my liner took out some of the flow around the bottom, but I hate hate hate hate HATE hemming anything, so it stayed >< My other vice with the costume (besides the hood, *keeeeels it*) is that it's actually too short. I cut it at least three inches too short @_@

Maester Seymour
07-29-2006, 12:05 PM
I dont think ive posted here, but there seems to just be a general want of tips and things on the organization coats, and i finished my xemnas a little while ago so while its fresh in my head im just going to spit some things out and hope it helps someone. I want to first point out that StarDustShadow taught me how to line my outfit, so, props to her because it stuck.

-I see that most y'all here are using a pleather or vinyl for the outfit, and I was absolutely stuck on that myself at first until our group for animenext (we did the entire organization and cast) decreed that we should use a bottomweight twill. I'm VERY happy that we chose that fabric over a vinyl or pleather. Twill was very easy to work with, imo, and with the lining, the coat had that heavy feel with a better flow than one using vinyl.

A simplicity matrix coat pattern was modded and then the 6 special seams were drawn out on the pattern itself and then i just cut along the lines i made. and bam, you've got your seams in and your pattern set.

Lets see.. the hood was taken from a jedi pattern.. it was super easy! a lot easier than i thought it would be. It's basically an elongated D on the fold with a seam along the top. A rectangular strip then was hemmed and i just did some straight lines over top of that strip(6 of them--4 for the seams, 2 for attachment) to simulate the seams there.

My lining was a sun silk satin, actually. It was expensive but it felt and looked nice. That bitch stardustshadow told me it took only an extra 45 minutes to add in lining XD but it really takes double the time. She knew i wouldnt do it if i knew it would be such a hassle, but im glad she lied haha. but yeah thats that...

My zipper is custom from CustomZips. I sent in a money order on a form my friend Miya~Kome had. Because im too tall for the 48 inch ones to look right, mine was a 52" heavy duty two way zipper. thats pretty much the biggest you can get as far as i know.

Lesse... the hood before lining got two eyelets, and then a small chain was sewn to the inside, about 3-4 links inside the eyelet. Then a crystal was attached to the end of the chain and model magic molded around that crystal for those large pulls.

The middle chains were painted wooden spools and chains. The chains had to be cut into individual links and then a thin wire went from each part to the next (Miya~Kome's mom helped with that-- so how exactly to thread them together im not that sure) We tried epoxy at first but that was a gruelingly bad idea. After it was together, i sewed the ends of the last chains into place and cut out 2 foamie circles, painted it, and epoxy'ed them on top of the chains where the thread was to cover it up.

and well, thats all i got as far as the coats themselves go. I hope that helps some people out.

Trir
07-29-2006, 12:24 PM
Yeah after everything was done I found out about twill as a possable fabric. If I ever remake the coat, going for that. I also used spools for the beads on the chain necklace. Instead of cutting the chain thou, I just drilled the holes of the spool large enough to fit on the chain. So yeah Cora, used wooden spools i got in craft section of Joaan's then just added metallic silver paint with a varnish finish to make them shine.

Miyori: Heh, the simple do thing at once works for me. Well so far still no luck on dulling the shine but Im not to worried about it.

Rain Miko: whats the issue withthe sleeves. I know I had to tweak it a bit from the pattern I was using (Matrix duster), but had to do that with most of it. With pattern connection to shoulder was no trouble and as for giving it that more open end, I just widen the area a bit.

Rizuchan: Well finding material wasnt to difficult. I found most of the stuff I needed between Joann's Fabric store and A.C.Moore craft store. for things such as chains can find those at hardware stores. A petstore works as a alternative for the necklace chain, like the choker chain I used.

RizuChan
07-29-2006, 01:35 PM
Thanks Trir. ^o^ I have both a Joann's and AC moore near me, so this won't be as hard as I thought.
I think I'm going to follow Maester Seymour's suggestion and get the twill. I think it will look better.

Cora
07-29-2006, 02:23 PM
I actually really enjoyed the pleather - it wasn't as hard to work with as it might sound, though if I ever make another one (my younger brother says he wants me to make him Roxas, but I can't do it until after I get back from Japan) I might look into twill, as it'll likely be cheaper than pleather, and I could use a coupon on it :D

Wooden spools - I thought they might be those! I saw another cosplayer using the spools, so maybe I'll do that if I have time before my next con (which is next weekend, though I have a lot of other cosplay touch-ups to do). Thanks guys! ^^

Winter Divinity
07-29-2006, 04:38 PM
They're selling PVC Vinyl at walmart this season. It's in the Halloween section of their fabrics. They call it pleather but it looks and acts just like pvc (very evily). I bought a few for a different costume, it was about $4.44/yd so if you're short on cash, go there.

Kurayami_chama
07-29-2006, 05:11 PM
I actually plan to make mine out of Duct tape. xD
I wonder if that's too weird..? oh well. thanks for all the help, I'd be lost without you guys! ^_^

Trir
07-29-2006, 05:14 PM
duct tape? I seen dress and suits made out of it, so not all that wierd. Sounds different, in a good way.

Cora
07-29-2006, 07:20 PM
I think it sounds cool XD There was a "duct tape Yuko" at AX's masquerade this year that won an award - it looked really neat ^^ Duct tape orgy coat sounds like fun! XD XD

IchigoKura
07-29-2006, 09:55 PM
I'm using Vouge Pattern number 2827 I believe~ I just have to alter it to include a hood and make it longer, but otherwise, I think it's a great pattern with a great shape to it~

I'm making mine out of pleather ($19/m) So I hope it turns out well~

RizuChan
07-29-2006, 10:09 PM
I have a MAJOR n00b question..Everyone is talking about seams...Pleas explain, and why the costume needs the seams.
X_X
Thanks. <3

Cora
07-29-2006, 10:19 PM
I have a MAJOR n00b question..Everyone is talking about seams...Pleas explain, and why the costume needs the seams.
X_X
Thanks. <3

Seams are the line made when you sew two pieces of fabric together ^^; There are certain patterns with visible seam lines that are closer to the look of the coat than others.

Every costume needs seams XD else how would it stay together? ^^

Trir
07-29-2006, 11:22 PM
Heh, yep. Seams come up a lot here cuase the ones on the orgy coats are a bit..well different then your run-of-the-mill attire. The one in particular is the one that starts at top of zipper circles around chest and then flows down parallel to zipper down to bottom of coat. I would put a pic up that I had of a close up of chest area but I seem to have lost it >.<

Cora
07-30-2006, 12:01 AM
Heh, yep. Seams come up a lot here cuase the ones on the orgy coats are a bit..well different then your run-of-the-mill attire. The one in particular is the one that starts at top of zipper circles around chest and then flows down parallel to zipper down to bottom of coat. I would put a pic up that I had of a close up of chest area but I seem to have lost it >.<

Yeah, I did mine in separate pieces...I finally took pictures of my pattern pieces but have yet to put them online because my cosplay website is still in the works (I'm almost done! aggh!). Eventually I will put up an explanation with pictures because there are a lot of questions regarding the coat.

Trir - I got your comment - hopefully you can get your boots done before you wear the costume again! I didn't have mine done for AX, though it would have been nice because then my feet wouldn't have died XD Being on staff for a convention requires that I have comfy footwear, so I finally got around to doing them ^^;

Trir
07-30-2006, 12:41 AM
That be an awesome idea, and would be really helpful for threads such as this one. =)

Yeah, looking at the ones you made I drew a quick sketch to kep in mind to try and make a pair for another con.

Cora
07-30-2006, 02:28 AM
I also took pictures of my processes with the boots XD so those are on the "to do list" for the "tutorial/explanation" part of the site ^^; I'm hoping I'll put them up after AnimeIowa and before I go to Japan, otherwise I'll try and work on it when I'm in...Japan? XD

Rain Miko
07-30-2006, 06:00 AM
Augh. I decided to completely scrap my coat and start over. I messed up on it badly, and I don't have enough material to start over. Incase anyone is about to go get fabric: DO NOT GET SHINEY BLACK VINYL#!!@!@ONETYONE!121!!

I'm gonna shell out the extra $$$ and get pleather, kind like that you have, Cora. Only I found it here (http://www.fashionfabricsclub.com/catalog_items.aspx?TypID=93&Viewby=Types&Page=1) for cheap. And I suppose I should get the appropriate thread, too? >_> Nothing like trying to sew with cotton thread. It snaps like no tomorrow.

So yeah. I vented. Yay?


NINJA-EDIT: Cora, would you be at all interested in making a custom pattern for the Orgy coat? I'd be willing to pay for it, within reason ^^;

R1KKu
07-30-2006, 10:13 AM
ignore post*

R1KKu
07-30-2006, 10:13 AM
I heavily modified the Matrix duster pattern for my coat and all the other coats Im making, and for the hoods I just added that panel in the middle. Looking at different reference pictures and in game shots, it was kinda hard to tell the exact design on the front of the coats (maybe some of you had luck), so I went with the heart design, because it seems more fitting for the characters, and I like it that way. I also went ahead and added piping along that seam; oh it was a pain to make piping. Anyways, Here's a few shots of what the front of my coat looks like in-progress, but I should have more after Anime Iowa.


http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v48/R1KKu/?action=view&current=orgcoat2.jpg&refPage=&imgAnch=imgAnch1

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v48/R1KKu/?action=view&current=Orgcoat1.jpg&refPage=&imgAnch=imgAnch2

Trir
07-30-2006, 11:42 AM
Nice R1kku. Yeah, I did the same design. Your right too, finding the exact design was a bit difficult. I had the guide book on hand and jut used th a my referance.
http://images.cosplay.com/showphoto.php?photo=781615
Piping was somewhat of a pain. thou the seam is three pieces, one with the piping, and then the two other parts sewn to that.

Another thing to just throw ot there. For possable future coats. The pendulum on the pull string. Looking through other cosplayers coats see different kinds used. With referance pics cant really place the design.
Question is what you think to go for in making them.

Myself I found a close enough shot of it and just rolled the shape out of clay. I was going to carve the designs into the clay but with it being too soft it was slowly being pushed out of shape.

IchigoKura
07-30-2006, 02:08 PM
I honestly rather have the jacket fitting snugly with a great cut, than to try and have all the seams exact but the jacket ending fitting boxy.
That's why I never chose to modify the matrix patters, because it wasn't so much of a "fitted" jacket.

@@ Uh.. yeah.. *should stop rambling*

Cora
07-30-2006, 03:03 PM
I honestly rather have the jacket fitting snugly with a great cut, than to try and have all the seams exact but the jacket ending fitting boxy.
That's why I never chose to modify the matrix patters, because it wasn't so much of a "fitted" jacket.

@@ Uh.. yeah.. *should stop rambling*

I'm with you, actually. I bought a matrix pattern to alter, and had all of the pieces traced when I decided I didn't think I would be able to alter the pattern well enough without it looking big on me or with the correct lines that the coat required. I'd had experience altering from a men's pattern before and had to go back and fix the jacket I made later because it was too big on me - I am female, therefore do not have the broad shoulders required to fill out the jacket or coat correctly ^^; So I opted for a coat that already had the correct lines in it already, therefore it would be less work for me to do.


Augh. I decided to completely scrap my coat and start over. I messed up on it badly, and I don't have enough material to start over. Incase anyone is about to go get fabric: DO NOT GET SHINEY BLACK VINYL#!!@!@ONETYONE!121!!

I'm gonna shell out the extra $$$ and get pleather, kind like that you have, Cora. Only I found it here (http://www.fashionfabricsclub.com/catalog_items.aspx?TypID=93&Viewby=Types&Page=1) for cheap. And I suppose I should get the appropriate thread, too? >_> Nothing like trying to sew with cotton thread. It snaps like no tomorrow.

So yeah. I vented. Yay?


NINJA-EDIT: Cora, would you be at all interested in making a custom pattern for the Orgy coat? I'd be willing to pay for it, within reason ^^;

Ooh man, $5/yard would have been nice @_@ of course I over buy everything, I probably have at least another yard of pleather left XD and next-day shipping killed me, so Axel is definitely my most costly costume yet X_X

For thread I suggest heavy-duty 100% polyester because it's very durable. Also picking up some Leather needles for your sewing machine will make it much easier to work with. Pleather actually isn't hard to work with except when you've got several long pieces and lots of coat to put through the machine XD

I'm going to PM you about the pattern ^^;


Edit: I've always wondered - how do you do piping anway, and what do you use? I think I may have done piping if I had known how to do it XD

Trir
07-30-2006, 03:53 PM
Well yeah when I was done making the coat it looked like just a regular coat that feel straight down the body. I could only do so much with fabirc to get it as snug as possably. With a little improvising thou I worked out giving it a more snug look. =)

As for piping. Way I did it was three pieces, the two pieces that are gonna be sewn together and a long strip of fabirc that has the cording/piping hemned into it. In end sewing though four pieces of fabric (those leather needles may have been a nice have for such a task). It came out god and secure.

All in all this was a first trial and error attempt. Will know what stuff to do better if i ever have a next time around. Which I probably will.

Cora
07-30-2006, 04:03 PM
Well yeah when I was done making the coat it looked like just a regular coat that feel straight down the body. I could only do so much with fabirc to get it as snug as possably. With a little improvising thou I worked out giving it a more snug look. =)

As for piping. Way I did it was three pieces, the two pieces that are gonna be sewn together and a long strip of fabirc that has the cording/piping hemned into it. In end sewing though four pieces of fabric (those leather needles may have been a nice have for such a task). It came out god and secure.

All in all this was a first trial and error attempt. Will know what stuff to do better if i ever have a next time around. Which I probably will.

Aah okay, that's kind of how I figured you'd do it ^^ Thanks Trir!! ^^

IchigoKura
07-30-2006, 04:35 PM
Yeah~ X3; I liked how you included piping, Trir~ Your jacket looks really really good!! :3 So shiny, too! <3 <3

And yeah~ Making costumes is a trial and error for everyone~
This will be my third cosplay~ X3; and this time, I wont get ANY help from my mom~ @@ (Guh.. I sounded pretty lame right there)

Anyways~ I thought of putting piping, too, but I just thought it'd be easier just to topstitch it~
o.o I believe you topstitched yours, right, Cora? @@ Your jacket game out amazing~

X3 I hope mine turns out just as good <3

RizuChan
07-30-2006, 04:37 PM
Yaaay I'm going fabric shopping soon. :: does the ' this is my first cosplay! ' dance ::
Eh. n00b I am. ^_^
I'm getting kind of worried, I have a feeling that I'm undertaking too large of a project. Ah well. I have about 10 months til the con, and I probably will end up using those 10 months. :D I have no idea how I'll end up altering the coat...But I'll stay positive! :: fist pump ::

IchigoKura
07-30-2006, 04:43 PM
Yaaay I'm going fabric shopping soon. :: does the ' this is my first cosplay! ' dance ::
Eh. n00b I am. ^_^
I'm getting kind of worried, I have a feeling that I'm undertaking too large of a project. Ah well. I have about 10 months til the con, and I probably will end up using those 10 months. :D I have no idea how I'll end up altering the coat...But I'll stay positive! :: fist pump ::

X3 Awesome!! Well good luck with it!!
:3 Everyone's gotta start somewhere~ and an Organization Cosplay is simple, yet complicated at the same time (depending on how you look at it)

It's just one colour, black, so you don't have to go around searching for the perfect colour or combination of fabric, and it really is only just once piece (a jacket)
Even though some say jackets are hard to make, don't let that discourage you! <3

Try asking around, too. Does your mom or grandmother sew? Or do you know a friend who's mom could help you?

Anyways, a good idea is never to procrastinate (>>; like me, sometimes) and just keep a positive attitude!! :3

Don't forget to ask around for help, too~ <3
Good luck!!

~Kura

RizuChan
07-30-2006, 04:53 PM
^ Thank yuu! <3
Eh. I am such a big procrastinator..That's kind of the reason why I'm starting 10 months in advance..

My mom and one of my friends sews a teeny bit, but we know someone who is good at sewing. So I suppose I'll get through. ^_^

Cora
07-30-2006, 05:11 PM
Yeah~ X3; I liked how you included piping, Trir~ Your jacket looks really really good!! :3 So shiny, too! <3 <3

And yeah~ Making costumes is a trial and error for everyone~
This will be my third cosplay~ X3; and this time, I wont get ANY help from my mom~ @@ (Guh.. I sounded pretty lame right there)

Anyways~ I thought of putting piping, too, but I just thought it'd be easier just to topstitch it~
o.o I believe you topstitched yours, right, Cora? @@ Your jacket game out amazing~

X3 I hope mine turns out just as good <3

^^; thank you!

Actually each line you see is a separate seam - so one front paneling of my jacket is made up of several separate pieces. I really need to get that "tutorial" thinger up on my site (I took pictures already) so that I can better explain my methods @_@ I tried top stitching on the hood but the shape of it decided it didn't like that XD.

If I ever make another one, I think I'll actually use the piping method instead. I wouldn't do top stitching on pleather...well I wouldn't top stitch unless I really needed to, actually XD

ooh yes...procrastination = bad, especially in cosplaying @_@ My problem has never been procrastination so much as I'm busy with everything else (stoopid college!) so I end up having only so much time right before a convention to get everything done.

IchigoKura
07-30-2006, 05:26 PM
^^; thank you!

Actually each line you see is a separate seam - so one front paneling of my jacket is made up of several separate pieces. I really need to get that "tutorial" thinger up on my site (I took pictures already) so that I can better explain my methods @_@ I tried top stitching on the hood but the shape of it decided it didn't like that XD.

If I ever make another one, I think I'll actually use the piping method instead. I wouldn't do top stitching on pleather...well I wouldn't top stitch unless I really needed to, actually XD

ooh yes...procrastination = bad, especially in cosplaying @_@ My problem has never been procrastination so much as I'm busy with everything else (stoopid college!) so I end up having only so much time right before a convention to get everything done.

:3 You're most welcome~
@@ And ahh~ okay X3; My pattern's also made up of quite a few peices~ so.. yeah X3; I hope it turns out good~
:3

RizuChan: :3 Yup!! Good luck! X3; and yeah, procrastination is the worst~~

Kurayami_chama
07-30-2006, 05:36 PM
*is writing it down* ...ma....trix....patt-terrrrn........altered..... okey! I'll try that

phantomthief
07-30-2006, 05:48 PM
I personally used the Matrix pattern. (and altered the **** out of it)

Black pleather with an acetate lining ^.^ Very warm but oddly comfy.
If I were to make a second one, I wouldn't use pleather. BUT! I *had* to make at least one out of pleather for the sake of flow... and a photoshoot in the rain. *evil grin*

The zipper is only basted in at this point (should remedy that tonight), the sleeves and jacket are not hemmed, the hood is not lined yet, and the shoulder pieces are missing. And all of the chains and such >.>

But it's going fairly well so far :) I'm not doing the curved chest version. I'm going for the one reference picture where it's a *slightly* curvy seam but with a seperate shoulder piece topstitched on ^.^ A bit easier.

I. Hate. That. Hood.

http://images.cosplay.com/showphoto.php?photo=783229

~Ari-chan

Trir
07-30-2006, 07:07 PM
Heh, yeah the hood. I pretty sure mine came out wrong, but at this point Im basically saying ****-it!

well with everything done decided to take a shot of me wearing the coat. got a close up of the chest area to show the the "heart" shaped seams:
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/Trir/Picture004.jpg

and just for hell of it, a full body shot, with prop I'm currently still working on.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/Trir/Picture003.jpg

Will have to say, learned it feels good to get something like this done. Probably wouldnt have gotten it done decently if it wasnt for the tips i got from here.

Cora
07-30-2006, 07:56 PM
Heh, yeah the hood. I pretty sure mine came out wrong, but at this point Im basically saying ****-it!

well with everything done decided to take a shot of me wearing the coat. got a close up of the chest area to show the the "heart" shaped seams:
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/Trir/Picture004.jpg

and just for hell of it, a full body shot, with prop I'm currently still working on.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/Trir/Picture003.jpg

Will have to say, learned it feels good to get something like this done. Probably wouldnt have gotten it done decently if it wasnt for the tips i got from here.

Yay for F***it mode!!! My friend Mel and I kind of dissolved into that mind set toward the end of Expo XD

The coat looks great Trir!! And so does the card! VERY cool! I like muchly XD

My hood is crap...it's too small and has lots of other issues. I might redo it someday because I always tend to improve on my costumes months later XD But that would also involve me redoing a lot of things as well...so that'll be a project for erm...later XD not 5 days before my con.

I think the larger hood is better...so I'd redo my hood to be at least twice as big.

IchigoKura
07-30-2006, 07:56 PM
Heh, yeah the hood. I pretty sure mine came out wrong, but at this point Im basically saying ****-it!

well with everything done decided to take a shot of me wearing the coat. got a close up of the chest area to show the the "heart" shaped seams:
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/Trir/Picture004.jpg

and just for hell of it, a full body shot, with prop I'm currently still working on.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/Trir/Picture003.jpg

Will have to say, learned it feels good to get something like this done. Probably wouldnt have gotten it done decently if it wasnt for the tips i got from here.

Wow!! That looks AMAZING so far, Trir! I love how it came out!!
I can't wait to see when it's finished!!
<33

Trir
07-30-2006, 08:04 PM
XD Thanks! Same to you IchigoKuro. Cant wait to yours all done as well.
And Cora...I still want your boots. ~plots to glomp you at Otakon and take them~
heh, I kid. Im seeing if I have time (like to last minute) will try and atleast make an add-on to the boots I have.

Kurayami_chama
07-30-2006, 08:45 PM
Heh, yeah the hood. I pretty sure mine came out wrong, but at this point Im basically saying ****-it!

well with everything done decided to take a shot of me wearing the coat. got a close up of the chest area to show the the "heart" shaped seams:
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/Trir/Picture004.jpg

and just for hell of it, a full body shot, with prop I'm currently still working on.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i209/Trir/Picture003.jpg

Will have to say, learned it feels good to get something like this done. Probably wouldnt have gotten it done decently if it wasnt for the tips i got from here.
ho-lee moo!! O.O
it looks... perfect..!!!!
you even have a giant card and everything!
wow... it looks perfect... great job!!!!

Cora
07-30-2006, 09:48 PM
XD Thanks! Same to you IchigoKuro. Cant wait to yours all done as well.
And Cora...I still want your boots. ~plots to glomp you at Otakon and take them~
heh, I kid. Im seeing if I have time (like to last minute) will try and atleast make an add-on to the boots I have.

I posted a pic of my boots a couple days ago:

Orgy Boots! hahaha (http://images.cosplay.com/showphoto.php?photo=782658)

:D Unfortunately I'm not going to Otakon...I'm going to AnimeIowa ^^; They're both next weekend, and AI is in my hometown and I'm on staff, so XD I went to Expo this year, I can't afford Otakon too ^^;;; That and I've gone to AnimeIowa for the past 6 years in a row, so I'd never miss my home convention ^^

My boots were basically just extensions to the top of boots I already have with the leftover pleather and this silver edging stuff and snaps. And cancer causing glue. It works great XD

RizuChan
07-31-2006, 12:32 PM
Wow, I love your boots Cora, and the outfit looks amazing Trir.
I took a few pictures of my boots, I'll upload them later today. I already had knee high boots, so instead of spending another $50 , I'm just going to go ahead and use the ones I have. They aren't exact, they are lace ups but they
will work just fine. ^_^

gamerpanda
07-31-2006, 12:34 PM
I must say Trir, your card looks AMAZING. You jacket looks pretty awesome, too.

I'm wondering if you're going to do any contest-entering?



P.S. Does anyone have any good referance pictures for the chains and beading? I'm having trouble finding ANY good clear pictures! ;_;

Trir
07-31-2006, 01:18 PM
Me, enter a contest? With as shy as I am. O.O ~hides~
Well, all I can say is maybe.

As for pics of chains and beads, I had a few on my comp..before it crashed. I'll try and find them again cuase they were close up shots of the chest and its what I used for myself. Will post them less someone else beats me to it.

Side note: Card done! wheeee...~waves his paint covered hands about~

RizuChan
07-31-2006, 01:22 PM
^ Yay. From the picture you showed before the card looks amazing.

I'm going to start on Axel's chakrams soon..I've got a general idea how to do it, all I need to do is go to AC Moore.
Any suggestions on the type of material to make his out of? If I had my way I'd do it in foam, nice and easy to carry but with my luck it will get crushed.

Trir
07-31-2006, 01:49 PM
Foam sounds like a good idea. I know wood would work too, but it be a bit heavy. Theres probably something else but forget what its called.

Also those pics I mentioned:

phantomthief
07-31-2006, 02:05 PM
Those beads... They look different in every picture!!! *cries*

gamerpanda
07-31-2006, 04:02 PM
Trir, I think you should. That costume's pretty great.

Also, thanks for the pics, guys! ^_^

GunSmythh
07-31-2006, 04:15 PM
ok, so how do you do the beads??? i got like 2 days left

Trir
07-31-2006, 04:57 PM
Theres a few ways you can go that I seen people do. For the beads on the necklace you can go with clay, but from my experiance that turned to be a bit frustrating, atleast for me. Using acturally metal rings can be done. You can also find wooden spools and alter them (or the chain) to fit them on.

For the beads/pendulums on the pullstrings. Clay can be modled straight into the desired shape or upon somthing with a close enough desired shape. Can aslo use actural beads of different shapes lined up to get the look you want.

Those are all just ideas and well its fun to improvise and as long as it comes out like how you want it and happy with finished product, its good.

RizuChan
07-31-2006, 05:01 PM
Thanks for the reference pics Trir. And I think I will use foam. Not too expensive and just easier to carry.

GunSmythh, for the necklace like part, find beads that look similar to the pics, string them on a chain and attach to hood.
For the hanging chains, it looks like one larger bead, so if you can find a large bead that is ornate like that, or even one that is plain, it should work. Another strategy is to use smaller beads and stack them to look like the pic.

Winter Divinity
08-01-2006, 01:49 AM
I had no luck in the wig section of this luck, so I'm gonna ask here:

Has anyone tried the Punky wig for Riku?

www.amphigory.com/wigs_punky.html

Or do you think it's possible to turn that into Riku's hair style? Any inputs greatly appreciated, thanks!

Cora
08-01-2006, 03:06 AM
I had no luck in the wig section of this luck, so I'm gonna ask here:

Has anyone tried the Punky wig for Riku?

www.amphigory.com/wigs_punky.html

Or do you think it's possible to turn that into Riku's hair style? Any inputs greatly appreciated, thanks!

My first inclination is to say that Punky is too poofy for Riku. I've worked with two of them, one in the silver. They're great wigs, but I'm not so sure that's the route you want to go with Riku. If you want the wig to look more flowing and natural, then definitely not. However if you're going for a more video-gamed look, then it might work well. I used it for my Axel wig (which I have recently rehabilitated, yay!) Back (http://images.cosplay.com/showphoto.php?photo=784659) | Side (http://images.cosplay.com/showphoto.php?photo=784658)

You could probably use it for Riku if you could achieve flatter spikes than me (I tried, and it just didn't work out for me XD ^^; oh well) and get it to do the bangs in the front. This wig is pretty stiff, though. There's a lot of product in it. @_@ The bangs might be a bit of an issue with that, because if you style them the wrong way you'd be in danger of taking your own eye out ^^;;

The only other thing I'd say about the punky is that the silver/white isn't really the color I'd use for Riku. It's definitely silvery, so works great for my Kakashi costume, but it's not the color that I personally would choose for Riku, who I think actually has more of a whiter color of hair than gray. The Punky also isn't really shiney in texture...and I just consider Riku to have like...shiney perfect pretty hair XD

woops...rambling. Dunno if it helped at all, but that's my input ^^;

Rain Miko
08-01-2006, 08:30 AM
I'd go with one of the 'Linda' wigs for Riku. It's what I'm going to use, as soon as I get more monies >_>

Edit: Whoo! 900th post!

KinkyxXxWaffles
08-02-2006, 10:24 AM
What about a Punky for Saix?
idk, I've been looking around. I already have my wig, but its proving problematic. Its a lot of effort, and now one of my friends wants to be Saix too. So he wants me to make his wig, he'll pay for it and give me some cash for the effort. BUT, if I'm making a second one I want to know if I can just cheat and get the punky?

About the beads!!- It seems to me that they're different for each organization member. And I've heard other people say that too. Anyway, I'm just using different beads that I can find, and having my friend Ashley help me. She makes jewlery, so she should be able to find the right types.

Cora
08-02-2006, 02:25 PM
Punky is a great wig to work with, but I'm not sure it'd be the best one for Saix. It'd do the top part pretty well, pulling it back into the spikes he's got, but I'm not sure if it'd have enough in the front to make the parts of his hair that fall in front of his ears. There's some hair there, but might not enough to be long or thick enough to make it look right.

Secondly Punky is basically upright frill on top and a mullet-like thing in the back. You likely wouldn't have to style the back for Saix, but an unstyled punky wig back looks a lot like a mullet. @_@

I've uploaded a few pictures of my Axel wig with the first layer styled to give you kind of an idea of what it looked like with the top done

Side 1 (http://www.magnetic-jade.net/ab-comp/cosmisc/wipaxelwigv1_01.jpg)
Front (http://www.magnetic-jade.net/ab-comp/cosmisc/wipaxelwigv1_02.jpg)
Side 2 (http://www.magnetic-jade.net/ab-comp/cosmisc/wipaxelwigv1_03.jpg)

Actually now that I look at it, you could probably get it to work with punky ^^ the hard part might be getting it in the right color @_@

Edit: just because I'm curious, what wig did you use for Saix before?

X affinity
08-03-2006, 01:24 AM
I feel awfully guilty for using a matte, linen fabric for our Riku cosplay ,_, (But I made a leather tubing-type thing and sewed it at the appropriate seams to make the panel shapes in the front and back and hood clear :O) I didn't want my friend melting in the summer heat. .but then again, I feel so. .inaccurate!

Has anyone else not used pleather/leather/vinyl?

KinkyxXxWaffles
08-03-2006, 10:12 AM
I used 'Linda' from amphigory, and I got it in the silver-white.
I used the sharpie method to dye it, and its the right color. I should probably go work on cutting and styling it, actually. When I was waiting for it to dry I got carried away with working on my Claymore. xD
Thats what I plan to do with the punky, and it does look like it'll work for it, since my friend isn't picky.
I'm basically looking for as many shortcuts as possible for the moment, cause I have a LOT of cosplay buddies and I'm basically the wig styler/ prop maker for our entire group at this point. ^^;

Edit: I'm not planing on pleather/leather/vinyl, affinity. But, I'm not the one sewing them. Due to me making the wigs and props, my friends mom (who is, I admit, much better at sewing than me) is making the cloaks. At least that way they'll look the same. ^^ And she already hates working with faux leather materials, from making my friend's Tifa costume.

RizuChan
08-03-2006, 12:34 PM
I have a major question for the Axel's wig. I think I'll use Punky and spike it, but how do you get the black roots? Thanks.

Cora
08-03-2006, 12:51 PM
I have a major question for the Axel's wig. I think I'll use Punky and spike it, but how do you get the black roots? Thanks.

For the roots I got a few Burgundy sharpies and colored. I was bad and didn't actually rinse it out, but none of the color touches the pleather, or me, so it wasn't a problem. ^^ You could probably use black, but I think Burgundy looks a little more natural. It turns out black in pictures anyhow.


For coats, I think there are actually more people who don't use pleather than those who do...mostly because it can be rather expensive and hard to obtain if you can't shop online and don't live near any major city that might have a store that carries it. The heavy knit fabrics sometimes look blacker and have a better flow to them, too. ^^

X affinity
08-03-2006, 10:48 PM
Fabulous @_@ I'm not a mistfit then

Rain Miko
08-04-2006, 03:04 PM
Cora- For the roots of your Axel wig, did you hand-color them in? That's what it looks like to me, but yeah. I just wanted to know out of curiosity.

And I have to babysit tonight, meaning i'll finally have enough money to order my pleather. Yay!

Shinya-chan
08-05-2006, 01:40 AM
Alrighty. Thanks for the tips so far, guys.

I've never really modified a pattern before, but it seems doing so for this jacket is inevitable. I'm torn between the Matrix-like pattern and the one Cora suggested. I'll probably go with the latter, but I'm not entirely sure.

Is pleather generally the fabric assumed most accurate? My monitor is amazingly wonderful with making pictures darker (all the pictures posted earlier? Yeah, the jackets were all pitch black and I couldn't make a thing out -- I had to lighten them all by 50% in PSP7,) so my attemp at discerning fabric is a bit skewed right now. I don't want to go with anything too shiny, but I don't want anything too matte, either. I was looking at stretchhouse.com and I'm a bit stuck between 7 and 15 in the Fake Leather section, but there may be a selection that's better. Making a trip to a fabric store is pretty much out of the question, as I live 3 hours from the nearest Wal-Mart, and even farther from the nearest Fabric/Craft-oriented store (yay Nevada desert!)

RE_Freak
08-05-2006, 08:51 AM
what i need is step by step instrutions on how to make a coat.

Jushaxo
08-05-2006, 11:58 AM
alright, after reading every post in this thread 1.5 times (1.5 meaning scanning for viable information then rereading for context) i believe i can do this. i've opted for twill with a silk or satin interior. i have two questions though. "how breathable is twill?" and "will it still be able to breathe if i put the interior in?" i'm not exactly sure. oh, if you're made of money, there's a shop you can go to get some cool shoes to go with the coat (i warn you, these shoesies are tres tres expensive) oh, mad kudos to Trir. the coat and card came out exquisite.

*edit* i forgotted to post the link, /(^_^ ')
http://www.newrockstore.com

*edit2* what if you used aluminun foil for the bead things?

spheris
08-05-2006, 03:14 PM
you could just buy the one at fan-store.net

Jushaxo
08-05-2006, 03:43 PM
too impersonal. besides i wanna see if my apparel development classes paid off flying solo, y'know? b-sides, i can get my friend's mom to help too. so yeah. oh, and cora, awesome work!

RyeCrimsonMoon
08-05-2006, 03:51 PM
I'm one that didn't use leather/pleather for my coat. I don't think it looks too bad, and I think it would be much better then pleather imo. I've never had anyone come up to me and say "you did that wrong", so you should be fine.

I used the Matrix pattern and it worked great. The hardest part is the hood, 'cause you have to figure that out on your own. All I did was trace a huge hood I had on a sweatshirt and pieced it together by just looking at that. (And I doubled the fabric, so it would be heavier and hang lower on my head So if I wanted to be an "unknown" O13 mem, I just havta put the hood on and it'll compleatly cover my face.)

I can't see why you couldn't use foil for the beads. You'd just have to be very careful not to crush them.

Okay, here's my question: Is Riku's coat different then the rest of the O13's?

Cora
08-07-2006, 12:05 AM
Whoo...done with AnimeIowa! (well, except for finishing tear-down tomorrow). So here are answers to a couple questions and some other random input. Apologies for any lack of coherency @.@

Cora- For the roots of your Axel wig, did you hand-color them in? That's what it looks like to me, but yeah. I just wanted to know out of curiosity.

And I have to babysit tonight, meaning i'll finally have enough money to order my pleather. Yay!

Yep, hand-colored, but not rinsed, 'cause I was lazy, and 'cause it doesn't touch the costume, so I can get away with it. XD

Shinya-chan:
I don't really think there is a "most accurate" fabric - some people use pleather probably because of the way the coats seem to look in "deep dive" and whatever the other extra video was; something like a fancy rain-coat XD But in the game itself they look darker than black pleather, so other people opt for other things. It's really a personal preference. I liked the look of the pleather, personally, and I wanted to try something different. So it's whatever you think looks best. ^^

RE_Freak:
A step-by-step instruction would be a pattern, and there is no actual official pattern for the coat that you can buy. That's why this discussion is here ^^; a lot of cosplay involves the ability to adapt what you already have to work with into something different and original.

Jushaxo:
Thank you! ^^;
As for aluminum foil beads, it might work, if you're wrapping the aluminum around something. And if you're going to do that, you might as well just find beads that work in the same fashion, or use paint ^^; I just think beads made only from aluminum foil (unless you have MAD SKILLZ! with aluminum) are going to be too difficult to 1, make, and 2, keep nice. And the less you have to worry about your costume holding up at the convention, the better ^^;

Heartless Grits
08-07-2006, 12:19 AM
I went to Animazement 06 as Final Form Sora (I was in the KH2 bachelor game show skit) and I think that the costume I wanna go for for the next Con I go to will be organization XIII Roxas. I already have the Oblivion keyblade from my Sora costume (I gotta work on the Oathkeeper), but what I need to do is find some decent and affordable material for the Org. 13 outfit. It doesn't nessesarily have to be leather (it could be a cloth fabric) but I still wanna make it look good. Any Suggestions?

Animazement '06 cosplays

Final Form Sora- Kingdom Hearts 2
Big Boss Snake- Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
(Failed attempt as going as Light Yagami)- Deathnote.

Kateko
08-07-2006, 02:41 AM
I went to Animazement 06 as Final Form Sora (I was in the KH2 bachelor game show skit) and I think that the costume I wanna go for for the next Con I go to will be organization XIII Roxas. I already have the Oblivion keyblade from my Sora costume (I gotta work on the Oathkeeper), but what I need to do is find some decent and affordable material for the Org. 13 outfit. It doesn't nessesarily have to be leather (it could be a cloth fabric) but I still wanna make it look good. Any Suggestions?

Animazement '06 cosplays

Final Form Sora- Kingdom Hearts 2
Big Boss Snake- Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
(Failed attempt as going as Light Yagami)- Deathnote.

I think a matte pleather would look best...since their coats aren't very shiny, it always looks odd when someone uses Matrix-shiny fabric for their coats.

And rock on with the Organization Roxas. Not enough people do that version.

Shinya-chan
08-07-2006, 02:59 AM
Shinya-chan:
I don't really think there is a "most accurate" fabric - some people use pleather probably because of the way the coats seem to look in "deep dive" and whatever the other extra video was; something like a fancy rain-coat XD But in the game itself they look darker than black pleather, so other people opt for other things. It's really a personal preference. I liked the look of the pleather, personally, and I wanted to try something different. So it's whatever you think looks best. ^^

Thank you. ^^; I suppose I'll decide on a fabric based on what convention I'll be wearing it to. I'm not sure if I want to brave Otakon '07 while wearing a pleather jacket. XD

Jushaxo
08-09-2006, 11:34 PM
ah, merci for the answers. but i must pose an additional question that may seem a tad n00bish. um.. is there any way you can rainproof twill? common sense says no, but i may just be doubting myself again..

phantomthief
08-13-2006, 05:16 AM
Yay for random progress!!!

http://images.cosplay.com/showphoto.php?photo=808847

I need to finish this thing T.T

~Ari-chan

Rain Miko
08-13-2006, 08:56 AM
Wow, that looks awesome! Good job! *_*

Did you use a pattern?

kh2_obsession
08-13-2006, 11:04 AM
Mmk well heres the deal i think i can pretty much make the orgy XIII coat for my friend except for the hood and the zipper, i need alot of advice. First off how do i make a hood? lol, and about the zipper how do you attach zippers i have never done it before and i really dont wanna screw it up.

phantomthief
08-13-2006, 11:26 AM
For the hood... blood sacrifices. You must make several blood sacrifices.

Miko: Modified Matrix duster :)

~Ari-chan

kh2_obsession
08-13-2006, 03:31 PM
Thanks...boy this should be fun. lol im not great at sewing so by the time im done lets just say i will be alot better.

Cora
08-13-2006, 05:29 PM
the best way to attach a zipper is to use a zipper foot for your machine...if you're not sure, go ask at your local JoAnns about it ^^; It shouldn't be very expensive.

OO Phantomtheif!! Your coat looks gorgeous! ^^ Very nice and full in the bottom...which is one thing mine *isn't* XD Unfortunately. Very pretty :D

IchigoKura
08-13-2006, 11:39 PM
Yay for random progress!!!

http://images.cosplay.com/showphoto.php?photo=808847

I need to finish this thing T.T

~Ari-chan

@@ Wow~ <3 So beautiful!!~
X3; I hope mine'll turn out that good when I'm done~

:3 And I agree with Cora~ Your jacket has a really nice shape~ X3 <3 <3~

Rain Miko
08-14-2006, 12:12 PM
Look what I found!

http://store.sewingtoday.com/cgi-bin/butterick/shop.cgi?s.item.B6844=x&TI=10013&page=10

You can probably use the pattern for the coat on the left as a base. Maybe in comination with the top pattern that Cora posted.

*shrug* Just an idea.

Cora
08-14-2006, 12:29 PM
Look what I found!

http://store.sewingtoday.com/cgi-bin/butterick/shop.cgi?s.item.B6844=x&TI=10013&page=10

You can probably use the pattern for the coat on the left as a base. Maybe in comination with the top pattern that Cora posted.

*shrug* Just an idea.

I considered that pattern at one point, actually. However I decided against it because I figure it's easier to modify a pattern from a woman's coat because it'll fit me bettter since I'm female, even though my character isn't. the bottom part of that pattern could probably add a little more fullness to the coat, though ^^ I didn't think about that enough when I was adding the extra inches to mine, otherwise I would have made it much wider at the bottom to give it a more flowing look.

NecroticNymph
08-14-2006, 01:29 PM
I just want to say thanks to everyone who posted here. Your advice will help me immensely. My friends and I are planning a full 13-person cosplay group for Organization XIII, with someone possibly as Ansem/DiZ. So ya...I get stuck with prop/coat duty. For thirteen people. Oh, the joy of cosplay. -_____-

Cora
08-14-2006, 09:30 PM
Oh dear...@_@ that's going to be murder. Good luck with that endeavor! x.x;;

Rain Miko
08-15-2006, 12:31 AM
Necroninja- I hope you are gifted with LOTS of patience. You'll need it.

I ordered my pleather today, YAY! I only got 4 yards, I hope it's enough o-0

(Though, it should be. I'm only 5'1" and not THAT fat >_>)

Cora
08-15-2006, 01:33 AM
4 yards should be plenty, I think. I just know that 6 was waaaaaaaay too much for me. Though I probably could have used more if I had made the span of the bottom of the coat a little wider.

Oh well -- leftover pleather means lots of possibilities for future cosplays :D

On the upside to the 13 coats...you'll be really good at them by the time you're done XD

NecroticNymph
08-15-2006, 09:24 AM
Oh yes. I will earn much experience. I made all the ninja sandals for my friends' cosplays, and lemme tell you, the first ones I made were crap, but the last pair look great, so I may make a practice Org. 13 coat so I can get the feel for it. I'll be buying the fabric wholesale, so it won't cost much more X__x

Cora
08-15-2006, 01:46 PM
You could also do a test-run on muslin, which is what I did. uber-cheap (less than $1/yard if you do it right) and easy to work with, so it'll give you a basic idea of what works and what doesn't. ^^

ayareinami*YAY*
08-15-2006, 09:52 PM
Hi! im making an Axel coat, and I'm trying to find one of those BIG zippers for the front. Someone told me to look on Ebay, but so far I haven't found anything... does anyone know where i could find one?

Sorry if I'm restating something someone's already asked ^^;

edit:
AHH! sorry, i accidently posted on my sister's sn... ayareinami*YAY* is not making an axel coat!

NecroticNymph
08-15-2006, 09:55 PM
I've seen them at Wal-Mart. They're GIANT. Fabric stores may have them. Sometimes they don't have them out on the rack and you have to ask.

X affinity
08-15-2006, 09:58 PM
Oh man- those zippers are a huge challenge to Organization cospllayers ><; I've never seen one at Wal-Mart :O But THAT would make life easy. . You can try zipper stores online like www.zippersource.com but I think it'll be pretty hard to find exactly what you need ,_, So, I second ayareinami*YAY*'s request! Zippeeeeers! ::foams::

Cora
08-15-2006, 10:02 PM
I got my zipper online. It's not OVERLY huge, but it's pretty big, and works pretty well.

Stan's Sewing Supplies (http://secure.cartsvr.net/catalogs/catalog.asp?prodid=2239345&showprevnext=1)

Shipping is only like, $1, and they're FAST too. I ordered mine on a Thursday and got it on Saturday. :D

I don't have anything super up-close of the zipper itself, but you can see my coat in my pictures in my gallery.

IchigoKura
08-17-2006, 06:33 PM
o_o I have a question about the jacket~
@@ I'm sewing mine out of pleather.. and I was wondering if anyone made like.. a slit in the back (like most long coats have) or did they sew the back seam all the way to the floor?

._. I wanted to sew mine all the way down, but my mom told me to make a part just above the knees at the back so it'd be easier to walk~ @@ But then again, since I'm gonna be keeping the front open then it'd be easy to walk anyways ._. And the jacket flares out at the bottom, too.. so I'm not constricting myself..

@@ What did you guys do for the back of your jackets? o_o??

NecroticNymph
08-17-2006, 06:50 PM
I would say no opening. There aren't any in the ref pics, and the front is open at the bottom anyway.

kh2_obsession
08-17-2006, 07:05 PM
mmk so for the organization coat...people who have made it, is is easy hard or inbetween?

Cora
08-17-2006, 09:21 PM
I would say no opening. There aren't any in the ref pics, and the front is open at the bottom anyway.

I agree. If you want some extra flare (and this is something I should have done), you could probably insert a triangular piece at the bottom. I don't know how well it'll actually work, but I do remember seeing something like that in one reference picture I saw, but for whatever reason chose to ignore it *kicks self*

You're supposed to have the coats open up past your knees in the front anyway, so you shouldn't have any problems walking, unless you make your coat so long you trip over it. Also, I would suggest picking up a pack of leather needles for your sewing machine when working with pleather - it'll be easier on your machine in the long run, and they don't cost even $5/pack, I don't think. ^^

kh2_obsession:
I think it depends on a few things for the coat - mostly, how good are you at altering patterns, because you'll have to do quite a bit of pattern modification, no matter what pattern you start from. Pattern modification is quite easy for me, so it wasn't hard for me at all (except for the bleeping hood, which I will likely redo at some point). So if you think you can handle remaking shapes in a pattern, it shouldn't be too bad.

R1KKu
08-17-2006, 09:48 PM
Quick question, maybe I asked this already. Anyways, I really like the look of the piping on the front pieces and Ive been having quite a hard time with it. The pleather Im using is somewhat thick and Im making the piping out of it; when it comes time to sew the zipper on, its such a pain to feed through my machine with like 6 layers of pleather plus a zipper. I knew it would be a pain but I never though it would get this troublesome. So, does anyone know where I can get premade black piping that would somewhat match a pleather material? Or does someone have other suggestions?

NecroticNymph
08-17-2006, 09:55 PM
An easier way to do it would be to cut a long strip twice as wide as you want it, then fold it over, inside-out and stitch all the way down. Then turn it inside out and stuff it with, well, stuffing ^.^; That will give you a small tube to hand-sew onto the coat from the inside. Or you could *try* to glue it, but I suggest hand-sewing it. That's my plan.

Rain Miko
08-17-2006, 09:57 PM
R1kku- Since pleather 'sinks' where the seams are, try just sewing two lines about 1/4 cm or so apart. It'll look like piping if done right.

And yey, I got the fabric to line my coat with. Guess what I chose. BROADCLOTH! Yum. I hate that stuff, but it's far too cheap not to use. Besides, the inside doesn't have to be perfect T_T

kh2_obsession
08-17-2006, 11:26 PM
kh2_obsession:
I think it depends on a few things for the coat - mostly, how good are you at altering patterns, because you'll have to do quite a bit of pattern modification, no matter what pattern you start from. Pattern modification is quite easy for me, so it wasn't hard for me at all (except for the bleeping hood, which I will likely redo at some point). So if you think you can handle remaking shapes in a pattern, it shouldn't be too bad.

well its my first time sewing anything really major. Greats thing to start out on isnt it XD. Oh well ill do the best i can thats all i can hope to do. Maybe ill work on my Aerith costume a bit first to get the whole sewing thing down. I dont wanna screw up the orgy coat since its for a friend. *crosses fingers* i hope it looks ok. Im gonna put pics up of me in it, it's gonna be huge on me, hehe.

Cora
08-18-2006, 02:43 AM
well its my first time sewing anything really major. Greats thing to start out on isnt it XD. Oh well ill do the best i can thats all i can hope to do. Maybe ill work on my Aerith costume a bit first to get the whole sewing thing down. I dont wanna screw up the orgy coat since its for a friend. *crosses fingers* i hope it looks ok. Im gonna put pics up of me in it, it's gonna be huge on me, hehe.

Well, I mean, it all kinda depends on how accurate you want it to be. You could find a pattern and follow it verbatim, and perhaps hand-sew some of the details on the top, for simplicity's sake. I just know that I personally tend to pick costumes where I have to pretty much butcher the pattern because of all the different lines on it XD so I'm used to it (I should put up the pictures of the ZAFT flightsuit pattern I finished but never used because I ran out of (time) money for materials. It's NUTS).

I would say it's more of an intermediate-level costume. It's not OVERLY difficult, but it's not simple, either.

kh2_obsession
08-18-2006, 08:52 AM
I would say it's more of an intermediate-level costume. It's not OVERLY difficult, but it's not simple, either.

Ok cool. well i hope i can do it =)

R1KKu
08-18-2006, 09:06 AM
An easier way to do it would be to cut a long strip twice as wide as you want it, then fold it over, inside-out and stitch all the way down. Then turn it inside out and stuff it with, well, stuffing ^.^; That will give you a small tube to hand-sew onto the coat from the inside. Or you could *try* to glue it, but I suggest hand-sewing it. That's my plan.


Well, thats pretty similar to what Im doing right now. I cut strips of the pleather and filled it with cording; stuffing would take way too long and make the piping look lumpy if not done right. Making the piping isnt a problem for me. It's when I have to sew the zipper on; that portion of the coat is so thick that I cant feed it through my machine. The fabric gets caught on the foot.

So I just wanna know where I could possibly get black piping. I know Joanns has the packaged stuff, but its a cotton/poly blend, and I dont think that will look good with the coats. If all else fails Ill just deal with it :sulk:

IchigoKura
08-18-2006, 04:06 PM
I would say no opening. There aren't any in the ref pics, and the front is open at the bottom anyway.

:3 Alright~ Thanks~

Making the piping isnt a problem for me. It's when I have to sew the zipper on; that portion of the coat is so thick that I cant feed it through my machine. The fabric gets caught on the foot.

o_o Oi..~ @@ That sucks ><..
@@ Um, are you using a leather-cure needle? o_o because heavier-duty needles might help it go through more easily~

Since pleather 'sinks' where the seams are, try just sewing two lines about 1/4 cm or so apart. It'll look like piping if done right.

o_o Yeah~ that's what I'm doing~ Hopefully it'll turn out good~

Jenna_Chan621
08-23-2006, 12:24 AM
were can I get the zipper! oh has anyone found a pattern..cause I heard matrix jacket and Jedi jacket

X affinity
08-23-2006, 01:16 AM
Has anyone ever thought of using jeep window zippers? :O

Runi-Chan
08-27-2006, 01:30 PM
R1kku- Since pleather 'sinks' where the seams are, try just sewing two lines about 1/4 cm or so apart. It'll look like piping if done right.

And yey, I got the fabric to line my coat with. Guess what I chose. BROADCLOTH! Yum. I hate that stuff, but it's far too cheap not to use. Besides, the inside doesn't have to be perfect T_T


Most fabric stores have regular lining for about $0.99 a yard; it's of decent quality, and comes in a lot of colors.

Though broadcloth isn't as 'slippery' looking as the lining is, though.

I'm going to be cosplaying Axel soon, and I've got materials for a mockup (yay for cheap muslin). Should I try working out fine detail work on that first?

Also: anyone have good close up pictures of the beads? I can't seem to find any...

Cora
08-28-2006, 01:42 AM
It'd be a good idea to work out fine detailing if you can - that way you'll know if there are problems with the method you were considering, and if there are any important adjustments you'll need to make. Ideally you should probably try out just about every important detail on your mockup so that you don't end up ruining expensive fabrics...like...pleather XD

The beads are a bit...up in the air, though the most accurate looking beads I've ever seen are either hand-carved from fimo clay (sculpey), or they've used painted wooden spools, with two glued (?) together in the center, and then a single on either side. I'm planning to redo my beads with the spools before Ohayocon when I come back from Japan.

Rain Miko
08-28-2006, 02:05 AM
Most fabric stores have regular lining for about $0.99 a yard; it's of decent quality, and comes in a lot of colors.

Though broadcloth isn't as 'slippery' looking as the lining is, though.

Thing is, I don't want the inside to be slippery >_< I really can't stand that feeling, and it makes it hard to clean. But the pleather I ordered doesn't even need lining, since it's black on the back of it. So yay! One less thing for me to worry about =3

Lady_Atreil
08-28-2006, 02:55 AM
I used a six-panel dress pattern from simplicity..only three things I had to alter were hood placement, front closure instead of a zip-back, and belling out the sleeves a bit....wan't that hard...but then, i made mine from ultrasuede....no lining, and looks and feels like well, suede...since i wasn't going to go for the 'ooh shiney' look.

Rain Miko
08-28-2006, 11:56 AM
Lady_Atreil- What pattern # was it? I'm ordering mine tonight, but if you've found a better one, I may just go with that=]

Sorra
09-07-2006, 09:38 PM
Can anyone give me any advice as to how to attach the lining to the outside part? I've never done a lining with a hood before....

Cora
09-12-2006, 01:46 AM
Can anyone give me any advice as to how to attach the lining to the outside part? I've never done a lining with a hood before....

*squee, glomp*

What I did was sew my lining to my coat along the bottom and along the hood, and then it'll be closed along the zippers when you sew the zipper on. My sleeves I had to fudge a bit because I couldn't figure out how to do that right, but I have plans to fix it when I come back from Japan. ^^ I just kind of turned the cuffs back inside the sleeves and tacking them down...but there's a better more permanent way to do it than that XD I don't know much about lining though...so that's how I did it, hahaha.

On a somewhat tangent note, hurrah for the new chapter of the KH2 manga *grin*

R1KKu
09-12-2006, 07:42 AM
I think I did something similar to my lining. I have it attached at the bottom and at the collar; my hood is only going to be attached at the corners because I want it big and sewing it to the collar would only make it smaller. For the sleeves, yep this was tricky for me too, I just folded in the edges on both the fabric and lining and top stitched, and I did the same for the zipper.

Sorra
09-13-2006, 05:12 PM
Thanks, Cora you saved me! I was just sitting there "Anyone gonna help me? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Buller?"

Well you get the idea, XD. So thanks for the help guys, I really needed it and it helped alot!

Blienky27
09-16-2006, 10:35 PM
Lady_Atreil, I'd also appreciate that pattern number, if you would.

One tip - I used a bag of something like 'Tribal Mix' beads from the craft section at Walmart. With two bags, I glued four together for the middle part of the necklace chain, and two each for the side beads, and painted them silver. It seems to have worked pretty well. (I would have photos, but my digital camera died on me. Grrrrr)

.Mirage.
09-27-2006, 06:57 PM
Wow this thread has been really helpful ^__^ this is going to be my first costume, so I feel quite....n00bish.

I'm planning on making an Organization XIII costume, either Axel or Xemnas, not sure yet, for Halloween, and use it later on in a convention.

But I have a quick question coat-wise, would pleather be cheaper to use over twill? I've heard bottom-weight twill or something numerous times, and I was originally going to go with pleather.

would twill be easier for someone just starting like me? o.o

Cora
09-28-2006, 01:31 AM
Erm, no, pleather is pricey. Like really expensive, especially if you don't live where you can get it easily (like me, JoAnns doesn't carry it, and I don't think Hancocks does either).

I would suggest twill for a new cosplayer, because it will allow for some mistakes, which pleather won't, as when you put a hole in it with a needle, it's there permanently. Pleather is fun to work with when you're sure you know what you're working with. I made a mock-up with muslin before I made my coat.

I actually kind of wish I had waited with the pleather, because I'm planning on drafting a new Orgy 13 coat pattern when I get back from Japan (all these cosplayers are giving me too much inspiration and ideas on how to improve on my cosplay and I have no outlet @_@), and I won't be able to afford pleather again, so I'm going to be using some other kind of fabric, probably something knit. Unless I can find the pleather that Japanese cosplayers use for their costumes for cheap XD

kh2_obsession
09-28-2006, 08:25 AM
alrighty i think im finally getting around to starting my friends organization jacket. Where is the best place to start without a pattern?

.Mirage.
09-28-2006, 02:07 PM
Erm, no, pleather is pricey. Like really expensive, especially if you don't live where you can get it easily (like me, JoAnns doesn't carry it, and I don't think Hancocks does either).

I would suggest twill for a new cosplayer, because it will allow for some mistakes, which pleather won't, as when you put a hole in it with a needle, it's there permanently. Pleather is fun to work with when you're sure you know what you're working with. I made a mock-up with muslin before I made my coat.

I actually kind of wish I had waited with the pleather, because I'm planning on drafting a new Orgy 13 coat pattern when I get back from Japan (all these cosplayers are giving me too much inspiration and ideas on how to improve on my cosplay and I have no outlet @_@), and I won't be able to afford pleather again, so I'm going to be using some other kind of fabric, probably something knit. Unless I can find the pleather that Japanese cosplayers use for their costumes for cheap XD

okay twill it is then ^__^ thank you.

Opera Phantom
09-30-2006, 12:37 PM
Wow, I can't even thank you guys enough! Just by reading through this thread, I learned everything I need to make my Organization Roxas coat for Halloween! Thank you thank you thank you!!! Now I just need to get my wig styled and Salem, here I come! Thanks again!!

Ani_BEE
09-30-2006, 07:06 PM
I’m planning on making a Org.13 coat from the MacPHEE Saddle shoulder coat patter
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c34/ani_bee/DSCN1770.jpg

Some people here did piping for their seams and I was wondering how they made them.


Wow the almost perfect pattern!
http://www.smartcart.com/1sew/cgi/display.cgi?item_num=5189SIM

Opera Phantom
09-30-2006, 08:14 PM
I got my zipper online. It's not OVERLY huge, but it's pretty big, and works pretty well.

Stan's Sewing Supplies (http://secure.cartsvr.net/catalogs/catalog.asp?prodid=2239345&showprevnext=1)

Shipping is only like, $1, and they're FAST too. I ordered mine on a Thursday and got it on Saturday. :D

I don't have anything super up-close of the zipper itself, but you can see my coat in my pictures in my gallery.

I have a question...about this Zipper website..which Shipping did you use? Because it says that shipping is $6 for Ground Shipping, but how long will that take?

Cora
10-02-2006, 01:43 AM
I have a question...about this Zipper website..which Shipping did you use? Because it says that shipping is $6 for Ground Shipping, but how long will that take?

I'm pretty sure I did the cheapest one...because I'm cheap XD XD XD

But like I said...I ordered it on a Thursday and had it the following Saturday, as in only two days. Hopefully they haven't changed their system ^^;

Sheeves
10-03-2006, 06:17 AM
Hey guys, I've been reading the thread and decided to do a mock-up of the real coat with muslin first, then decide what material to use for the real thing. I can't seem to find any prices for pleather, though. Could anyone tell me an approxamite price or a place that sells pleather? (by the way, this is my first handmade cosplay @.@;; )

Zyph
10-03-2006, 02:14 PM
Wow. This thread has ben really helpfull to me. I'm planning on being Lexaeus for Halloween. I already have the base of the coat. It was an old halloween robe that I bought at Party City. I 've had it for about 3 years, then I decided on using it for an OXIII coat. It had a bunch of felt designs, which I removed. It has a seam going up the middle which I can remove to make a place for the zipper. I'll post pics later.

Anyway, it's made of knit. I know, I know, not the best choice. But the robe is just shaped too perfectly, so I'll work with it. I will put another layer of twill on the front to create the designs. I need help with the hood, though. I will make it out of twill, but if someone could post a pattern or something, that would be awesome.

Also, someone mentioned this earlier, but I like the idea of pipe on the edges of the design. What material should I make it out of?

Cora
10-03-2006, 07:27 PM
Hey guys, I've been reading the thread and decided to do a mock-up of the real coat with muslin first, then decide what material to use for the real thing. I can't seem to find any prices for pleather, though. Could anyone tell me an approxamite price or a place that sells pleather? (by the way, this is my first handmade cosplay @.@;; )

StretchHouse.com pleather (http://www.spandexhouse.com/products.asp?id=47&pname=Stretch%20Pleather)

This is the place I bought my pleather from, it's $8/yard, and was actually really nice to work with. This was my first time working with pleather, but I've made many costumes before this one. If you really want to use pleather, get a leather needle for your sewing machine, it'll be much easier. Pleather is expensive, and when you put a hole in it, it stays there, so you have to be careful with pinning and sewing. I don't particularly recommend working with pleather if you're not used to doing much costume construction from scratch @_@

I couldn't go to a store to get my pleather, so I got it online (note to self and others: don't wait until the last minute and do next-day shipping, because that makes your costs go WAY UP). If you live in or near a large urban area (aka not IOWA), you might be able to find it at a large fabric store.

Anyway, it's made of knit. I know, I know, not the best choice. But the robe is just shaped too perfectly, so I'll work with it. I will put another layer of twill on the front to create the designs. I need help with the hood, though. I will make it out of twill, but if someone could post a pattern or something, that would be awesome.

Also, someone mentioned this earlier, but I like the idea of pipe on the edges of the design. What material should I make it out of?

Knit fabrics can look better (and have a better flow) than pleather for the coats, if done correctly. I know that unless I can find cheap pleather in Japan (har har har har), I'll be making another/remaking mine out of a knit fabric. Besides, I've seen more knit coats than pleather ones. ^^

For piping I believe there is actually stuff called "piping" (don't quote me), I think you should be able to get it at JoAnns or Hancocks...just go and ask for it...or someone else can correct me on this ^^;

I can't help you with the hood at the moment, 'cause I gotta run to work soon, but it's actually fairly easy to make, once you realize the shape ^^ I think someone posted an outline around here somewhere...either that or I'm thinking of a different website.

*runs off, hoping she can make an early enough train ><*

Zyph
10-03-2006, 09:08 PM
Okay, I got a pic of the costume before I took all of the velvet off of it. I have pics of the robe as it is curently, without the velvet, but my camera is having troubles... ^^;


Please note that the picture was taken from an angle, so that's not the way the proportions really are.

And I removed the hood part because it was way too small. ><

sparta1256
10-03-2006, 09:26 PM
Well here is what I did.

Step1. Went to Walmart
Step2.bought halloween costume, perfect shape comes with big hood,and a velcro mesh thing for face.
Step3.bought some bead things at craft sec. they Look exactly like the real thing;same design.
Step4.got rid of excess fabric on it.
Step5.done!:bigtu:

mine is just a costume!not a cosplay costume.
wear it during spirit week at school.

Hsien-Ko
10-04-2006, 02:01 PM
Bumpies!

I was wondering if anybody could help me. I want to cosplay Larxene.I got the pattern for the coat n I got my hair. but I was wondering what her lil yellow knives look like. Can anybody help me on that?

and I was thinking of doing them in Insulation Foam,is that a good idea?

Zyph
10-04-2006, 02:07 PM
Pic 1 (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/65/XIII_Order_12_Larxene.png)

Pic 2 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/Galahad_Mcloud/Kingdom%20Hearts%20-%20Chain%20of%20Memories/larxene2.png)

Those might help... ^^

It seems her daggers are like kunai, with blue handles and yellow blades.

Hsien-Ko
10-04-2006, 06:14 PM
thanks ^^ Oo I thought her lil knives were in the shape of the Orgy XII symbol no?

Ani_BEE
10-04-2006, 06:25 PM
Yes they are.

http://www.kh2.co.uk/image.php?view=com/artwork/35.jpg

Hsien-Ko
10-04-2006, 06:38 PM
Thank you SOOO much ^.^

Zyph
10-04-2006, 10:56 PM
Ah, ya beat meh...

Anyway, I have a pic of the robe without the velvet. It's starting to take shape.

I still am looking for some help with the hood, though. ^^;

rickyff7
10-05-2006, 03:25 AM
im planning on makeing organization XIII coat for halloween (and allso wear it in the rain lol hehe).and i was thinking how long did the coat take to make? i only have 17 days to make it.just in case, is there any good pattern for this? by the way, cora you really have great cosplay costume of axel i ever seen and the wig too ^_^ hehe.

Hsien-Ko
10-05-2006, 10:18 AM
well for pattern I am using the "matrix" pattern from Simplicity. Alot of people say it's good ^^ I am also planning to make it for halloween and for winter ^^

rickyff7
10-05-2006, 07:36 PM
Thanks hsien-ko, hmm...should i get (matrix)costume and fix up or just get the pattern. what you think? and allso the hood should be made two D in both side and a I in the middle right?

Hsien-Ko
10-05-2006, 09:15 PM
yep about the hood ^.^ For the pattern you need to change it just a weeee bit it's mainly putting a double sided zipper in the middle

Ani_BEE
10-08-2006, 03:05 AM
I recant what I said earlier, this is THE pattern!
http://store.sewingtoday.com/cgi-bin/butterick/shop.cgi?s.item.B4682=x&TI=10002&page=3
Minus the hood and the flared sleeves this was in the dress section. :confused:

daguru
10-08-2006, 11:45 AM
Um. I'm not really complaining, but... wasn't there a Kingdom Hearts cosplay thread in which all things related were posted?

Castella
10-08-2006, 02:44 PM
Um. I'm not really complaining, but... wasn't there a Kingdom Hearts cosplay thread in which all things related were posted?

I feel that the organization coats need their own thread, unless you'd rather the KH one be run over with 14 pages of info :p. As for all those posts, those people should either be directed here or to the other large KH thread that you spoke of. Otherwise people will think it's okay to make a whole new post for every little detail of their costume :untrust:

Ani_BEE
10-13-2006, 10:59 PM
Aka checking out my new KH figures.

I notice something different about Axelís Org. 13 coat, it has a under layer.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c34/ani_bee/leg1.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c34/ani_bee/leg2.jpg

If you notice itís design so that it expands in the back where the slit is added so that it billows out more.

Pretty sweet.

I also realised that the Org.13 boots are the same as Ansemís boots from KHI.

kh2_obsession
10-14-2006, 09:03 AM
Ok so i an finally starting the costume for my friend this week!

We are getting a pattern and the only thing the pattern dowsnt have is a hood. Otherwise the pattern is perfect. So anyway, How do you make a hood and the hanging bead thins how should i attach them and what should i make them out of

Cora
10-14-2006, 09:29 AM
For the hood, do a search within the thread and I think you should find what you're looking for...and also check a couple other threads too.

For the beads, I made mine out of a combination of different kinds of beads and attached them to chains I bought in the jewelry section of hobby lobby and took apart and reassembled. I used a t-connector (I don't know what it's actually called) on the center chain and sewed the side "pull strings" to the hood itself.

I have a reference picture for the beads, but i'm too tired to upload it at the moment. If you want, you can probably go dig up scans of the new official art and look at those, because they're the best references for beads.

kh2_obsession
10-16-2006, 05:50 PM
ok so we started my friends costume and we got a pattern but we are kinda confused with the pattern, so how exactlly do you use a pattern?

Varnani
10-16-2006, 09:31 PM
Aka checking out my new KH figures.

I notice something different about Axelís Org. 13 coat, it has a under layer.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c34/ani_bee/leg1.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c34/ani_bee/leg2.jpg

If you notice itís design so that it expands in the back where the slit is added so that it billows out more.

Pretty sweet.

I also realised that the Org.13 boots are the same as Ansemís boots from KHI.

That looks really cool. O_o My anime store doesn't have the Axel figure in yet...*mutter*
Anyway, do you think the rest of the coats do that too?

Ani_BEE
10-16-2006, 10:43 PM
More then likely, one of the reason I love figures especially from Japan is they super accurate especially for cosplayers who want to do a not to fanatical series (Bakuretsu Tenshi comes to mind) the best reference is from a PVC Status or figure. In love with all the tiny chains and beads O.o the beads slide one the chain to!

I’ve also noticed a slight cut in the back of the coats in Jiminy’s Journal. And when I mean slight I mean slight I thought it was an artefact in the rendering. Also when it’s folded over the top two layers but up perfectly.

Now I’m not saying everyone has to add the layer but if you want it super billowy then Go For IT!:bigtu:

My comic store only gets a select few and they ordered me a set I thought they were ordering the series 2 mini statues and when I got there I was like :mfg: :eeek: :rofl: :love: :bouncer: :drunk:

But Sora's pants has a huge mark on it :bigcry: I'm almost tempted to buy another one leave that one to be manhandle by my friends.

Varnani
10-16-2006, 10:51 PM
Hmmm, well I'll definitely consider it! =D

Sorra
10-17-2006, 03:41 PM
Does anyone have any advice on how to hem while using a pleather material? Because of all the little holes from the pins would be visible....

:confused:

Cora
10-18-2006, 06:27 AM
Does anyone have any advice on how to hem while using a pleather material? Because of all the little holes from the pins would be visible....

:confused:

*glomps*

You have to be careful when you're pinning. Double-check the pattern to make sure that your seam allowances are 5/8, or just make sure so you know what kind of margin you have to work with. Then when you're pinning, you have to make sure that you don't pin beyond that invisible 5/8 line. That includes pinning down for cutting out the pattern and also for when you pin your pieces together.

Is this for Detour or another con? ^^

Varnani
10-19-2006, 10:34 PM
Maybe use tape? That's what it says to use for pleather in the matrix duster pattern I have. or use pins "within the seam allowance". Which helps you like, none.

Zyph
10-24-2006, 10:28 PM
Okay, so I'm half-way done, and I need it done by Friday. >.<

I'm in "frack it" mode. I am totaly winging the hood. I don't care if it fits perfectly, as long as it looks right.

My HUGE question is: What do I use for the "necklace" and "drawstring" things?

Hsien-Ko
10-24-2006, 10:47 PM
Dear Lord >< I need to do a Orgy XIII coat for Saturday! WHY ME!! >< atleast my friend got her fabric...and i'm sure I could do it better if I wasn't so sick... >< aw poo...

AdamGarcia
10-28-2006, 07:04 AM
I found:
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/1523/orginisationxiicoat1xj.th.jpg (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=orginisationxiicoat1xj.jpg)

That looks like it will do, all I need know is a pattern for a hood. Also to lose a little weight.


is this a good patern to use?

Varnani
10-28-2006, 09:53 PM
I made a miniature of that, and the seams were all kinds of wrong. X_X
I might've done it incorrectly of course, but from what I experienced, no, that would not be a good pattern to use.
I must say that it was pretty full around the ankles. That was nice.

DarkFujin
10-30-2006, 05:10 PM
Maybe use tape? That's what it says to use for pleather in the matrix duster pattern I have. or use pins "within the seam allowance". Which helps you like, none.

Tape is so much better than pins anyway. My sewing teacher, who was in the sewing industry for 15 years, recommended everyone to use tape. You just tape everything in place and sew over it. When you're done you can just peel off the tape. ^_^ That way you can also use the tape as a guideline to mark where to sew, without having to worry about breaking pins or anything. Also, tape is less likely to stab you.

Anyway, yeah. I plan on making an Orgy (I've been calling it that ever since seeing it on 4chan) XIII coat so I've just been lurking this thread for a while. You guys all have wonderful ideas! Making my coat is going to be so much easier now. Thanks. I'm still debating between twill and pleather though. I was fine with twill.....until I saw Phantomthief's coat and all the other pleather ones. Now I don't know. But I'm kind of a beginner so I think I'm going to make a twill one first and eventually do a pleather when I get more comfortable with sewing.

Hsien-Ko
11-01-2006, 12:24 PM
Dear heavens >< I finishe the coat for last Saturday but it looks AWFUL. my friend rushed me to the points of me glaring at my machine >.<

If people want pictures just ask lol but your eyes will bleed!! I do plan on taking my time and making another one that this time will look good!

DarkFujin
11-01-2006, 09:09 PM
Dear heavens >< I finishe the coat for last Saturday but it looks AWFUL. my friend rushed me to the points of me glaring at my machine >.<

If people want pictures just ask lol but your eyes will bleed!! I do plan on taking my time and making another one that this time will look good!

Yeah you probably shouldn't rush those things. I don't need my coat until May so I'm planning everything now. But at least now you'll know what to do for next time, right? I'd still like to see the pictures though. :toothy:

Ani_BEE
11-02-2006, 08:48 AM
If for any reason someone want a really full jacket pattern this ones for you.

http://store.sewingtoday.com/cgi-bin/voguepatterns/shop.cgi?s.item.V8346=x&TI=20020&page=1

Cora
11-08-2006, 08:01 AM
If for any reason someone want a really full jacket pattern this ones for you.

http://store.sewingtoday.com/cgi-bin/voguepatterns/shop.cgi?s.item.V8346=x&TI=20020&page=1

Top would be very unhappy to modify just on it's own, but luckily all I need is the bottom, which is easily pieced together with another pattern.

Much <3 to you for this. I just might use this instead of the matrix coat pattern to remake my coat with ^^

Ani_BEE
11-08-2006, 09:07 PM
The nice thing about that pattern is it matches the seam patter of your other jacket Cora.

And I’m going to try my hand at this pattern over them summer. I looks really nice to work with.
http://store.sewingtoday.com/cgi-bin/butterick/shop.cgi?s.item.B4682=x&TI=10002&page=3

Cora
11-10-2006, 03:59 AM
The nice thing about that pattern is it matches the seam patter of your other jacket Cora.

And Iím going to try my hand at this pattern over them summer. I looks really nice to work with.
http://store.sewingtoday.com/cgi-bin/butterick/shop.cgi?s.item.B4682=x&TI=10002&page=3

Yeah, I really just need to modify the bottom ^^ hopefully the two will fit well together.

DarkFujin
11-11-2006, 08:14 PM
If for any reason someone want a really full jacket pattern this ones for you.

http://store.sewingtoday.com/cgi-bin/voguepatterns/shop.cgi?s.item.V8346=x&TI=20020&page=1


Wow thanks! I'm going to try to use the bottom of that too. As for the top, I'm really leaning towards that Butterick #whatever that Cora posted towards the beginning of this thread. Hopefully I can, as in the words of Tim Gunn, make it work.

Jequila
12-01-2006, 01:42 AM
Just a question for you guys, but what colour is the Orgy XII coats' zip? I've looked around and alot of people seem to be going with silver, but I can't help but think that they look more like black or grey plastic. And they're really chunky :/

Heres the reff pics I've been looking at, sorry for the huge filesize.
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/7986/axel3xo7.png

Just something I noticed, but would that slide ever make it over that huge zip? It doesn't really look like it would. o_o;

shiromi
12-01-2006, 03:49 AM
um i don't know if you can find it but kwik sew has a pattern it the 2925 pattern its really similaur to the org coats

Cora
12-01-2006, 05:20 AM
Just a question for you guys, but what colour is the Orgy XII coats' zip? I've looked around and alot of people seem to be going with silver, but I can't help but think that they look more like black or grey plastic. And they're really chunky :/

Heres the reff pics I've been looking at, sorry for the huge filesize.
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/7986/axel3xo7.png

Just something I noticed, but would that slide ever make it over that huge zip? It doesn't really look like it would. o_o;

The zippers are obviously exaggerated in the art and the rendering - I don't think you could make a zipper look precisely like that and still be functional. *ganks the ref picture anyway, 'cause it's a nice concise collection of good ref pics~* In cosplay there are some things you have to um....adapt to make more practical.

I got my zipper from Stan's Sewing Supplies (http://secure.cartsvr.net/catalogs/catalog.asp?prodid=2239345&showprevnext=1). They had pretty fast shipping (well, for me, 'cause they're in the US), and it's a really wide, heavy-duty two-way zipper and was really really easy to work with, which was awesome because I hate hate hate HATE zippers. It did the trick nicely...which reminds me I need to order more zippers from them.

Jequila
12-02-2006, 05:13 AM
I was looking at that zipper a while ago, and it seems the best so far =] I just hope shipping isn't too much. This is turning out to be more expencive then I thought it would be, and I'm still not sure what to do about the shoes. Damn you Axel, making me want to cosplay you -shakes fist- Ah well <3

Ani_BEE
12-02-2006, 09:31 AM
http://www.kwiksew.com/Patterns/P2913_2934/2925.cfm
Um it would take a lot of alteration in the body to make it fit snug and the bottom need to be a bit fuller.

Trir
12-02-2006, 02:51 PM
Im liking some of these patterns. I been wanting topossable remake my coat. Better material but also make it to fit a bit more snugly liek its supposed to.

Jequila
12-02-2006, 10:26 PM
http://www.kwiksew.com/Patterns/P2913_2934/2925.cfm
Um it would take a lot of alteration in the body to make it fit snug and the bottom need to be a bit fuller.
That's the pattern i'm using ^^ I'm doing my first test run now, I hope my alterations work >_>;;

Dahvie-Chan
12-25-2006, 09:12 PM
Well, Im a newb Sewer, I just got a sewing machine for Christmas today, Im gonna practice the different stitches and such, maybe get some lessons from my brother in laws mom (She's a seamstress) on how to sew and whenever I buy material, Im gonna attempt to make a cloak! XD

InkyLink
12-26-2006, 01:32 AM
You should still make one too, and sorry if someone listed this site already but, www.abbyshot.com has really professional anime/game/movie stuff if you wanted to buy one for coolness factor. (just for yourself or whatnot) They are, however, VERY expensive, just a heads up. -InkyLink

trupnoi_25
12-26-2006, 04:31 AM
$499 for a Coat! f! that

KimiChizuchan
12-26-2006, 01:15 PM
..Wowww. All of the different pattern suggestions are making my head spin. XD I'm starting to figure I'm going to need two patterns, because some of these patterns have the top half that would work pretty well for the Organization coat, but then some others have ones that the bottom would work nicely. I just..don't know which would be best. u_u

I'm still learning how to sew, and I have a little over four months to get my Marluxia costume done, along with..-thinks- four others. So I really need to get started. Marluxia is the only costume I'm still indecisive on the pattern; I have patterns for everything else, and I should be getting fabric for them in the next few days.

I know that I'll be using twill; I do NOT have faith in myself yet to use pleather or vinyl. I'll end up messing something up. ._.

But yes...there's so many patterns suggested, but I want to know which one(s) would be best to use..? >__<; My friend suggested the simplicity matrix coat, so I might go with that, but I'm having issues already since I'm a girl. I wonder..could I alter the pattern to taper at the waist, or would that just be way to tricky..at least for my level of sewing?

...I have lots of questions. o_O;;

Ani_BEE
12-27-2006, 12:44 AM
Here’s a break down for the girls

I’m still saying overall this is the best to use for shape since it has the opening in the front all the way down and the long seams in the front are right but the back needs to be changed and a few more seams need to be added but that’s the same for all of them.
http://store.sewingtoday.com/cgi-bin/butterick/shop.cgi?s.item.B4682=x&TI=10002&page=3
This full dress pattern is similar to the one Cora used and has a bottom part but is missing the flared sleeves.

Or

Cora used this pattern then added to the bottom
http://store.sewingtoday.com/cgi-bin/butterick/shop.cgi?s.item.B4688=x&TI=10006&page=1
But she is planning to add this jacket bottom to the pattern.
http://store.sewingtoday.com/cgi-bin/voguepatterns/shop.cgi?s.item.V8346=x&TI=20020&page=1

The hood for my part I’m drawing a copy of my mom’s coat since it’s almost identical and making a pattern from that.


For Men the Matrix pattern is still the best choice

spheris
12-27-2006, 09:39 AM
know what.
fan-store.net has organization 13 coats for $120,and they look good too.

KimiChizuchan
12-27-2006, 09:53 AM
Mm...I think I'll go with the dress pattern. I have another pattern I used for a different costume that has flared sleeves..and if all else fails, I'll enlist the help of my dear mother. <3

Thank you very much! Now I just have to figure out his fluffyspiky! hair. But I can do that. <33

Cora
12-29-2006, 01:22 AM
Hereís a break down for the girls

Iím still saying overall this is the best to use for shape since it has the opening in the front all the way down and the long seams in the front are right but the back needs to be changed and a few more seams need to be added but thatís the same for all of them.
http://store.sewingtoday.com/cgi-bin/butterick/shop.cgi?s.item.B4682=x&TI=10002&page=3
This full dress pattern is similar to the one Cora used and has a bottom part but is missing the flared sleeves.

Or

Cora used this pattern then added to the bottom
http://store.sewingtoday.com/cgi-bin/butterick/shop.cgi?s.item.B4688=x&TI=10006&page=1
But she is planning to add this jacket bottom to the pattern.
http://store.sewingtoday.com/cgi-bin/voguepatterns/shop.cgi?s.item.V8346=x&TI=20020&page=1

The hood for my part Iím drawing a copy of my momís coat since itís almost identical and making a pattern from that.


For Men the Matrix pattern is still the best choice

Yeah, still planning on that, but it's gonna have to wait until March @_@ working on a new project for Ohayocon.

Ani_BEE
12-30-2006, 01:05 AM
Heh don’t worry I won’t be making my Xemnas final battle coat till after Anime North (May) but I’m so pumped to do it!

X affinity
01-01-2007, 10:32 PM
Neh, I just spent all evening going through this thread for tips, and at the same time whipping up the mock-up to Axel's Orgy coat. Using the matrix pattern, I made the coat, took in all the correct seams to make it fit correctly for a binding girl, and then took a marker to it to draw the special seams that the orgy coats have (the front panel for instance). I just finished writing reminders next to the lines to add my seam allowances x3; I'll forget otherwise, I know it.

I just had to use vinyl. : p I was testing it and I nearly had an ulcer worrying about breaking my machine xD Actually, the thread I got was wreaking more havoc than the pleather. x3 I almost want to just hand-sew it all, but that's useless, I know.

Actually, this post was sort of useless xD I just wanted to say something after reading all seventeen pages. : p Wish me luck anyway, and happy new year!

Cora
01-03-2007, 12:02 AM
Neh, I just spent all evening going through this thread for tips, and at the same time whipping up the mock-up to Axel's Orgy coat. Using the matrix pattern, I made the coat, took in all the correct seams to make it fit correctly for a binding girl, and then took a marker to it to draw the special seams that the orgy coats have (the front panel for instance). I just finished writing reminders next to the lines to add my seam allowances x3; I'll forget otherwise, I know it.

I just had to use vinyl. : p I was testing it and I nearly had an ulcer worrying about breaking my machine xD Actually, the thread I got was wreaking more havoc than the pleather. x3 I almost want to just hand-sew it all, but that's useless, I know.

Actually, this post was sort of useless xD I just wanted to say something after reading all seventeen pages. : p Wish me luck anyway, and happy new year!

XD wow you read ALL 17 pages?? daaaang. *would not have patience to do so* XD XD XD Well you are WELL PREPARED then! :Db

Vinyl...>.<! I hope you're using thinner vinyl, because anything very thick is going to be very difficult. Actually, when I was being security staff for AnimeIowa's cosplay in August, I was backstage and there was a KH group that had a Saix, and the girl who'd done all the costumes (was their...either Sora or Roxas, I can't remember), said that she'd hand-sewed the coat, which was also vinyl.

I'd actually advise against using vinyl for just about any project...I personally don't like to use it except for belts and accessory-type things, because it's usually not even intended to be used for making a garment out of. But if that's what you decide to go with (because I know pleather is expensive, if that's the look you're going for), just be very patient, and good luck! ^^

KimiChizuchan
01-03-2007, 05:44 PM
..It bugs me that I'm buying two patterns, but I don't have the patience to translate my measurements into a pattern for a guy. I'm forcing my brother to cosplay as Xemnas, so I get to get ANOTHER pattern. ....Oh God. So much cloth..so little time. I shouldn't have talked my brother into being Xemnas....and given him a fondess for dramatically saying 'KINGDOM HEARTS.' XD He would shoot me if I tried to talk him into something different. My karma hates me.

Oh well; hopefully I'll be getting my patterns in the next couple of days, and I'll be modifying them. x3