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Merchant
07-11-2006, 06:32 PM
I just need some suggestions on materials to use for constructing a cosplay of the twin victim from Silent Hill 4

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v509/Endless1200/v8p2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v509/Endless1200/v7p2.jpg

Tenel Ka
07-11-2006, 06:38 PM
I wish I had a clue as to what you could use to make that -- but I just have to say how effing great it's gonna be once it's finished. O_O I've always wanted to see if that costume could be pulled off and I'm so happy it's being attempted! :D

The stuff they're wearing though kind of looks like a heavy burlap texture -- or even a really ratty furry type material.

Merchant
07-11-2006, 07:00 PM
Thanks I'm trying to find materials that would match the tones of it's body and I would have to use a section of theater scrim to place under the head in order to see lol. Plus my other obstacle is constructing the leg bits using rubber monster hand gloves.

HybridTwist
07-12-2006, 01:31 AM
For the face and hands/feet, try looking into prosthetics. It'll probably take a while, but it will give the best look. You can also try using either wonderflex or paper clay.

Merchant
07-12-2006, 01:39 AM
I'll look into that, thank you ^^
I'm hoping to get it up and runnng so I'll have it done by next Fanime. ^^

Alessa
07-12-2006, 02:00 AM
Ooooh very cool! I just wonder how you want to make that with the hands... ?

Shin-1chi
07-12-2006, 02:23 AM
let me impart some wisdom given to me by one Dr. Nick Rivera,

"Well if it isn't my old friend Mr. McCraig, with a leg for an arm and and arm for a leg."

Merchant
07-12-2006, 02:38 AM
Ooooh very cool! I just wonder how you want to make that with the hands... ?


I'll have to figure out some way to use monster hand gloves or even alien hand gloves for the look, the legs may be more of a challenge.

Nyana
07-12-2006, 09:55 AM
OMG a twin victim as cosplay... that's amazing *___*
I've no clue what materials you could use o,o Anyway good luck..
I really wanna see that cosplay

daguru
07-12-2006, 01:52 PM
Obviously, you could make a lifemask of your face and simply wear it as a 2nd head. You could use your own arms for the arms and stand on them for pics. It could involve making a fluffy bunch of tattered fabrics that you could tuck your legs in and keep them hidden for pics. The only problem I see is that your arms aren't quite long enough. I have a casting method that would be just perfect for making those huge arms, but it's a bit complicated.

1. make a negative mold of your arms by covering with an alginate + cheeseclothe mix and make a mothermold with plaster.

2. make a positive with Panocast 120.

3. grow the panocast positive, then seal it and make a new negative out of plaster.

4. Pop out positives of latex reinforced HEAVILY with lots of fiberglass. It would have to hold your weight after all.

...those are the basic steps. If you want to consider doing this, I'll make it more detailed.

Panocast is a two-part mix that cures into a gummy substance that absorbs water and grows to 160% it's original size

Merchant
07-12-2006, 02:23 PM
Obviously, you could make a lifemask of your face and simply wear it as a 2nd head. You could use your own arms for the arms and stand on them for pics. It could involve making a fluffy bunch of tattered fabrics that you could tuck your legs in and keep them hidden for pics. The only problem I see is that your arms aren't quite long enough. I have a casting method that would be just perfect for making those huge arms, but it's a bit complicated.

1. make a negative mold of your arms by covering with an alginate + cheeseclothe mix and make a mothermold with plaster.

2. make a positive with Panocast 120.

3. grow the panocast positive, then seal it and make a new negative out of plaster.

4. Pop out positives of latex reinforced HEAVILY with lots of fiberglass. It would have to hold your weight after all.

...those are the basic steps. If you want to consider doing this, I'll make it more detailed.

Panocast is a two-part mix that cures into a gummy substance that absorbs water and grows to 160% it's original size

The more details the better ^^

I might have found a place that makes prosthetics for props that might be able to help me with the casting process. But I'm sure they would need those details so I could give them the exact instructions for constructing such an obscure piece.

George duel
07-13-2006, 01:07 AM
You can always try something like this:
http://i6.tinypic.com/1zv8qba.jpg

Merchant
07-13-2006, 02:07 AM
You can always try something like this:
http://i6.tinypic.com/1zv8qba.jpg


That could work I'll look into that too, maybe I can steal a cart from work.

Thanks :bigtu:

daguru
07-13-2006, 09:06 PM
You can always try something like this:
http://i6.tinypic.com/1zv8qba.jpg

That seems like it would work a lot better than what I suggested.


If you want to make your own monster hands, you could use the method I suggested, but skip the fiberglass at the end and just slip your hands in.

Molding Alginate is a powder that yo mix with water to form a viscous goo. You can have anywhere from 2-8 minutes of working time until it starts to harden. Alginate can be strengthened by adding a second layer and applying saturated strips of cheeseclothe to the mold. It will stiffen and become stronger. Note that it should be used and discarded after a few hours as it is constantly losing it's water through evaporation and can dry out completely. Alginate and cheeseclothe are available widely on the internet.
(you would be doing this step on your arms, so you would need an assistant to apply everything, or just apply everything on your assistant.

Obviously, a gel cannot hold it's shape on it's own, and so a plaster "mother mold" is needed. Basically, it's 1-1/12" layer of plaster that goes around the outside of an alginate mold. Once cured, it can be removed, as well as the alginate mold. When finished, you should have a detailed rubbery mold of alginate that fits snug into a plaster mold.

Remember those Grow-A-Dinosaur toys you had as a kid? well, Panocast is the same thing. Panocast is a two-part mix that cures into a gummy substance. You then leave it in water for a few days. It absorbs water and grows to 160% it's original size. Thicker casted objects (like arms) will most likely need to have holes drilled into them before absorbtion. This will help it evenly-distribute the water. IMPORTANT: I haven't actually tested panocast with alginate yet. There is a chance that the water from the alginate will interfere with the curing proccess of the panocast. Let me test it out on some scrap pieces I have to see if it will work before you go purchasing any alginate.

Next step is to dry off (with a towel) the panocast positives that are grown to a desired size. Make new negatives out of plaster. You may want more plaster than usual for added strength. When finished, you should have two plaster negatives of BIG arms.

Next would be to purchase any sort of white, creme, or colorless mask latex. Pour latex into the plaster mold covering all interior surface area, then dump it out. Take a straw or air compressor hose and blow on the surface area and all of the nooks and crannies. This prevents air bubbles in your product. Once thoroughly blown, pour all of your latex into the mold and attempt to fill it to the top. If there is still space, simply put a two-liter soda bottle in it to displace some of the latex. Leave it there for about a 1/2 hour, then dump all of your latex back into it's containers for later use. Leave the plastery molds overnight to dry. If all goes well, you should have giant latex hands that you can trim and paint with acrylic paint.

Merchant
07-13-2006, 11:07 PM
Thanks I copied the info down on my wordpad. Thanks for the help everyone I just have to get this project up and running.

daguru
07-15-2006, 10:21 PM
mk. I tried it out and alginate is ok to use with panocast. The panocast starts absorbing the water from the alginate even before it cures, but that doesn't really change what the final product looks like