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michanchan
03-10-2003, 05:52 AM
making own wings with own feathers seems challanging but i gotta find out how cause i'm planning to make the giant wings for Keroberos true costume. There was also Ken Hidaka's wings from Gluhen that i need to figure out, and wanted to make a small pair for squall... should i use foam, poster board or actual feathers and if i do, how'd i do the feathers part without buying the actual wing set?

LLC
03-10-2003, 11:54 AM
There are places that sell very large "Angel Wings" (around 60"). However, as might be expected they are expensive.
Your best choice for wings like that is to use artifical feathers that are based on ostrich style. That way they are very long and very fluffy. That cuts down the weight and the amount of attachment to the framework.
Specialy craft stores is the place to take a look for these and if they do not have them in stock can generally order them.

One option we have done is to make a wing (depending on size you want) out of a stiff leather. One can then inscribe or paint on feather impressions (we did a set of "Hawkgirl" wings this way) or you can use the leather sheeting for attachment of feathers.

Either way generally plan on piercing the quills with a sharp needle and then using a good nylon thread (carpet threading works well) to bind the individual feathers on.

michanchan
03-10-2003, 05:33 PM
for the money thing, i really dun like the designs set on those types of wings... They look too... "Fairy" like to me, i would like some that reveal more then just the arch, i dunno that's how i feel about those.

Leather is a good idea, but too much effort into painting them, i actually started on making it by placing the feathers one by one along side each other after sorting it out, so far it looks like a raven's wing. I might wanna just hotglue everything.

^_^ but thanks for the oppionion

katnap007
03-10-2003, 05:43 PM
Drop by a Victoria Secret store. I've seen some incredible wings there, (displayed in the front windows, not for sale.) It looks like styrofoam or some medium craved in the shape desired, then regular white feathers are glued on in rows of neat patterns.

Romann
03-11-2003, 08:15 AM
OOOH! I hate walking in a Victoria's secret store and seeing all those pretty wings!!! I always ask if they're for sale, and of course, they're not. But if you search online and download the VS fashion show from last year (or this year?) they had a special section on how their wings were made... and they are beautiful.

aimee
03-11-2003, 09:19 AM
the ones on display in the store however are made differently than the ones used in the show.

I'd use something other than styrofoam (what's used int he store) for wings you intend to wear. use something lighter and more flexible. most of the ones in the show used a fabric or paper base on a wire- wireframe, if I remember right.

Mei Lan Chang
03-12-2003, 07:00 PM
www.fantasywings.com

Have a looksy over there.

Romann
03-13-2003, 07:53 AM
I was diggin that site, Mei...until I saw the prices. That's enough for materials for 2 or 3 costumes ^ ^: But they look really high quality though...maybe when I'm rich one day....

michanchan
03-14-2003, 06:11 AM
now those are some nice wings... Thanks for the sight ^_^ i'll try and see if i can make it since i have something to look at.

michanchan
03-15-2003, 10:14 PM
YAY, i was finally able to create some crappy looking wings that i've been trying to figure out for months...

pictures can be found on my gallery > Goofing Around

KittenTheChibi
03-16-2003, 06:45 PM
In order to make my wings for a costume I made... I mounted on Pleather renforced with a metal peice.. But unless you have time to cut and peice the metal I suggest using a sturdy peice of styrofoam.

Good luck hun!!!

cutekawaii
03-16-2003, 08:54 PM
Originally posted by Noir Lumine
But if you search online and download the VS fashion show from last year (or this year?) they had a special section on how their wings were made... and they are beautiful. would you care to tell us how they were made?

nyamiko_chan
03-17-2003, 08:53 AM
ya!! I'm going to make some movable Yue wings hopefully!!

at least light enough to wear and there's the problem.

That leather/pleather idea is good...but a color that's light enough for white feathers for me ^^

I'll keep you posted on any progress ^.~!!

hotohori74
03-17-2003, 01:08 PM
Using pleather sounds like a pretty good, I just might try that.
But my wings aren't... uh, normal. They belong to The Black Waltz 3(FF9). (Sorry, no pics as of late) :crylaugh:
They attach to your back, like normal, but they are complete bone until they reach the height of your head, then they span out into large black and dark-teal feathers... I have my work cut out for me. NE1 think I should try out the wire frame, or use some kind of bendable, plastic tubing?

Some of my friends have given me some good ideas, but I saw these postings, so, I decided to run it by u all. :)

KittenTheChibi
03-19-2003, 05:41 AM
Wire may work but you run rish or it folding in on its self try screwing the bone onto sheet metal inforced base that might help...

LLC
03-19-2003, 10:25 AM
leather can work quite well also. Check out the size of the wings on the one lady at www.sandiegoleathercostumes.com
I have seen those things and they are well over 6ft in length and span probably as much if not more.

I have also seen the things been banged on walls, put through a very stenous masquerade and they just keep right on putting up with the it all.

hotohori74
03-19-2003, 10:21 PM
Thanx, I'll post back if things go my way with it. :)

Romann
03-20-2003, 10:15 PM
Basically, the artists (I dont know what else to call them) Began with a wire framework of the wings, covered it with thin paper like styrofoam, then proceeded to put a thin but study piece of mesh-like material over the basic shape. After that they began to paste on the feathers in a weird pattern ( they were running on a time limit so I didnt see everything) I'll try to put the file up on my site when I can, so it can be downloaded.

KittenTheChibi
03-24-2003, 03:33 PM
Everyone here has great tips ....
Any tips on smaller cherib style wings out of feathers??
My idea floped...

yayahan
03-24-2003, 04:11 PM
The great thing about smaller wings is that you can wear them to a lot more places, and their lightweight nature. With a small pair of angel wings, you could even design the attachment to be part of your costume and not worry about straps that can cut into your shoulders or end up looking inaccurate. For first time "wingers", I would definitely suggest making a small pair that you can use for alternative events like clubs, parties etc. Always draw out how you want the wings to bend, and make sure you get feathers from BOTH wings of the bird, so they curve in not only one direction. Ideas galore for smaller feather wings can be found at www.fantasywings.com

KittenTheChibi
03-28-2003, 07:18 AM
Thanks Yaya I'll take your advice!!! See ya at Otakon hopefully!

yayahan
03-28-2003, 08:36 AM
Goodness, that would be lovely! I was rather stressed out last year and would really like to enjoy a more relaxing Ota ^^

emika
04-02-2003, 02:33 PM
I dont' know if anyone would be interested but my friend and I just constructed my first pair of wings that are going to be used with a gothic lolita outfit I have. It was entirely experimental but 3 hangers, some black tulle and about 500 black turkey feathers later I think they look kinda spiffy ^_^

If anyone wants to see I have some pictures scanned of the process and everything on my site:

http://www.westmoon.org/other/wings/

michanchan
04-02-2003, 05:08 PM
Emika - Sweet pics, i love the idea you put about the feathers just showing up on the bottom

AngelicStar - Did you see the Wings that Prof Tomo did when he was Yue? I wonder if it's possible to get sections of the feathers to open up like how his wings were ridge...

yayahan
04-03-2003, 10:52 AM
I saw images of Yue's wings - beautifully done, and very accurate to the way they looked in the anime ^_^. Yes, you should be able to do the same with feathers, but will have to construct the wings in sections, just like his.

Genius the Jenn
04-03-2003, 12:00 PM
hey I dunno if this will help you much - I did make a large set of wings for Yue a loooooong time ago (it was quite the challenge) and you can look in my gallery for pictures.

I'm not sure if my method would be of help but the basic idea of it is that the "bone" part of the wing is PVC pipe that I bent myself using heat (VERY dangerous - don't do this unless you know what you're doing) and the main wing part is just fabric covering screening that's used for doors. Hot glue on feathers and voila. It's very hard to move around - it didn't help that the bangs on my wig kept getting in the way either but yeah...keep that in mind. (^_^)

I hope that helped! Feel free to e-mail me if you have any more questions (^_^)

KittenTheChibi
04-07-2003, 02:47 PM
Wow I love how open and friendly everyone is.... I have needed a place to get advice for ahwile but hadn't been able to...
I actually bought my wings this time but maybe I'll make a pair soon. And unfortunatly I don't get to go to Ota... Have fun for me guys :(

*Jibrielle*
05-13-2003, 05:26 PM
Hey I found this feathers site you people should check it out if you want to buy feathers for wings

http://www.featherplace.com/

:angel:hope it helps :dance:

Balmung
05-28-2003, 09:53 AM
I'm starting work on Balmung wings soon. Isn't there a tutorial anywhere online for wing creation? I would hope some otaku or otherwise would share their secrets with the rest of us, especialy the wings that move lol. I wants me some WINGS!

Sakon
05-28-2003, 03:41 PM
For the Bone Wings,

I am a foam purist. You can get really nice bone effects with it. Also plastic wood filler or bondo. They are durable and easier to use than clay and massive chunks of wire.

cutekawaii
05-28-2003, 06:21 PM
I use batting for my wing 'bones'. It's SO much lighter than PVC piping et al. But that foam idea is a good idea too!! Sounds good for Sephiroth~

Balmung
05-29-2003, 06:53 AM
What exactly is batting? how do you use it, and do you have pictures of a foam wing versus a "batted" wing?

Balmung
05-29-2003, 01:03 PM
I just Noticed that there are NO wing tutorials on the net! I'm staring a new forum to get a bunch of ppl together to make a site on wing creation tutorials. I hope everyone that posts here will join and help, *sniffle* Cuz I Def don't have enugh info and recourses to do this on my own!

cutekawaii
06-02-2003, 03:24 PM
Originally posted by Balmung
What exactly is batting? how do you use it, and do you have pictures of a foam wing versus a "batted" wing? Batting is just regular polyester stuffing you can find in bags. Check out my gallery for wings made with batting.

Balmung
06-03-2003, 08:48 AM
ahhh your wings are soooooo beautiful!how does batting work like PVC? or do you use a wire frame under the batting?

cutekawaii
06-03-2003, 01:14 PM
Originally posted by Balmung
ahhh your wings are soooooo beautiful!how does batting work like PVC? or do you use a wire frame under the batting? There is a wire fram under the batting. Also, I tihnk Rosiel is going to put up a wing tutorial sometime in the near future.

Ghyra
06-05-2003, 03:11 PM
Oh, that would be wonderful, her wings are so pretty.

I've tried making a pair of feather wings before, but it turned out horrible. A tutorial is just what the web needs. :angel:

duck
06-07-2003, 12:47 AM
I've started compiling a site with the wing info I've found online -

http://www.oddhatter.net/wings/

There isn't anything about feather wings yet, but hopefully I'll get around to writing a couple tutorials soon. I've never made feather wings before, but I intend to and will document the process, whether it fails or not. And if it does, hey, well now you know what NOT to do.=)

nekoneko09
10-08-2003, 07:10 PM
www.fantasywings.com

Have a looksy over there.

Really nice wings!!! but way too expensive... i am thinking of getting a really huge wings ..hmm maybe like 3/4 my body lenght... that will be really expensive ;)

Fénicia
10-08-2003, 08:03 PM
For my Sailor Moon wings (http://images.cosplay.com/showphoto.php?photo=82032&password=&sort=1&cat=500&page=3) I used white cardboard cut to size, sandwiched some wire in between 2 layers of cardboard and hotglued the featheers on.

For the Moogle wings (http://images.cosplay.com/showphoto.php?photo=82844&password=&sort=1&cat=500&page=1) I used fabric and some boning together with stuffing for the stifness.