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kawaiifuu
12-19-2006, 08:20 PM
Okay, so maybe I sound weird, old fashioned, or overprotective. I convinced my nine yr-old little brother to cosplay from FMA with me and naturally he wants to get into the series. Though, I feel a bit shaky about letting him get into the series because I know there's violence and heavy cursing. He's really, really loves Naruto, though and that too is violent. I just don't want to grow up thinking violence is okay, though. How can I introduce him to the series and teach him to handle it in a mature way?

TETSUYA_CASSHER
12-19-2006, 09:12 PM
ah dont worry about it its only cartoon violence. Look at programs these days power rangers are violent. toon disney has gotten violent. if you want get him fma manga and blank out the bad words. and most language isnt that bad. but just watch it with him. I saw gits at 13 and bought it at 13 lol.

Solaria
12-19-2006, 10:24 PM
You know, in a situation like this, I'd just talk about it with your parents. You could show them a little bit of the show if you want to help them judge for themselves, but ultimately, they're his guardians and they should decide what he should be seeing. They may think the show is perfectly fine or they might want him to wait until he's older.

kawaiifuu
12-20-2006, 04:23 AM
My parents are pretty tied up with thier own problems so I usually mother my own little brother...heh. My little sister thinks it's weird that I get concerned on the anime he likes.
As for my parents and FMA, my dad has actually read all the manga avilable online so he knows allot about the series, too. (He likes to get into whatever series his kids are getting into.) I'll ask him if he think its okay, but he has also said repeatedly it's extermly violent (maybe moreso in the manga, i'm not sure.)
I'm also lucky that I don't need to cross out curse words in my own manga because my little brother's deslexic.

kawaiifuu
12-20-2006, 04:24 AM
But actually it's pretty fitting if you think about it. My brother's cosplaying Wrath and I'm Sloth...and as Sloth I'm supposed to take the motherly role and protect my son, y'know? Okay, lame joke.

Kirby-chan
12-20-2006, 09:26 PM
In my opinion, it depends onn the level of maturity or how well your brother can handle the sereis, if he can tell the difference between reality and fantasy well, then it could be alright, I saw Jurassic Park 1 when I was four because I knew that dinosaurs were extinct. If he knows that you can't just clap your hands and make a spear come out of the ground then he should be able to handle it.

Solaria
12-20-2006, 09:30 PM
I'll ask him if he think its okay, but he has also said repeatedly it's extermly violent (maybe moreso in the manga, i'm not sure.)
I'm also lucky that I don't need to cross out curse words in my own manga because my little brother's deslexic.

The manga is definitely more violent than the anime, especially the later half.

Perhaps a compromise would be just to show your brother a few of the more light-hearted episodes? Perhaps more of the beginning (although maybe not the scenes where they're trying to resurrect their mother), or the random episode in the middle with warehouse 13?

Rynn
12-21-2006, 12:20 AM
Yep, the manga is more violent.

To be honest, I think it would be fine to show him. Although FMA has themes obviously meant for an older audience, the violence is really nothing in comparison to something like Bleach...which is often a constant stream of sword fights and moral wounds. The great thing about FMA is that there is NO pointless violence. All of the fights happen for a valid reason and are never just a "YOU ARE STRONG! WE MUST BATTLE!" scenario so if you have to justify WHY something violent happened, it wouldn't be to hard to explain. Plus the scenes with Wrath are all pretty mild anyway. :D

So my vote is yes. : D

kawaiifuu
12-21-2006, 04:17 PM
After thinking it over, I found that allot of anime (Samurai Champloo for example) characters just go on killing sprees for no reason. Say a person is shot in a videogame and it's no big deal but my brotehr understands that a person's family and friends in real life are affected by the person getting shot. I love that FMA conveys that in Huges death. (But I still won't forgive Envy for killing one of my faviorite characters!!)
And really, my little brother's a sweet kid, he may do crazy things when he's mad but on a day you get into a fight with him (and I don't do that often with him) he's always the first to applogize...and he always does it shortly after the fight because he feels guilty. I think he can handle it.

Although, when I asked my dad he gave me a look like I was crazy and I didn't get to hear his answer because I was late to school.

Oh, well, I'm pretty sure it'll all turn out right in the end!

kawaiifuu
12-21-2006, 04:19 PM
P.S.: Kirby-chan, don't worry, my bro's not that young ;-). He undertsands about the whole spear thing.

Kaniki
12-21-2006, 05:23 PM
I have a sister the same age and acts quite a bit like what you say your brother acts like and I let her see some of FMA. However I do regret it. Things people see/hear when they are at a young age do stick with them into adult hood and somethings may be too... extreme for them at that age.

Although I personally don't find anything really that wrong with FMA {aside from the first few episodes} I think that kids of that age should wait a bit longer before getting into that sort of series. {At youngest, maybe 11/12}

Honestly, I say no. But it's really up to your parents. ^^

finalfantsy86
12-22-2006, 10:51 PM
Like solaria posted I would show your brother more of the milder episodes of FMA...My cousin is like that too....I got him hooked on Naruto at 4....while I'm still waiting for him to get older before I show him some Bleach or FMA...

Serria
12-31-2006, 01:51 PM
(sorry for bringing up this thread again, though technically it's not very old, but I have the same situation..)

I ALSO have a 9 year old little brother who I sort of want to do an FMA cosplay with me. He's been known to sneak peaks at the TV show when I've been watching it, though I'm also reluctant to let him see it. Some episodes are okay, but others are just awfully dark, disturbing, and all around not really appropriate for children. Granted, my little brother is extremely mentally mature for his age, but that doesn't mean he won't get bad nightmares about Scar trying to kill him or something.

At the same time I don't want to be overprotective and shelter him. After all, when I was young I played very violent and mature video games (this was back in the super nintendo days, so my parents didn't think twice when letting me rent them because they thought all games were kiddy). But even so I was able to grow up a non-violent, fairly smart and emotionally stable individual.

Though if your brother can get through the series without getting scared, I think FMA is better than a lot of other anime. After all, FMA has violence but I don't think it SUPPORTS it. Time after time in the series, Ed relates himself to "the bad guys" and understands their side, or at least feels sympathy (Greed, Lust, Scar, Russell, etc.) And Ed and Al are always trying to do the right thing, and it's never hard or confusing to realize that they are, like in other anime. As stated before a lot of the problems and fighting don't happen just to entertain the audience, most of them relate to the storyline.

Also, as stated before, I think the best thing to do is to start them off with happier episodes. With the exception of episode three, most of the earlier episodes are pretty tame, up to the part where Tucker offs his daughter and Scar is introduced. Episode 13 is a good one, as well as some of the others in that area - pretty lighthearted and not too upsetting. Also that episode, I think in the 30s, where it's all about the military - that's funny. :P

Lady Saya
12-31-2006, 08:49 PM
I let my niece watch certain episodes of FMA (she only nine). I think we did watch the episode with Nina and the whole chimera thing (I'm a bad aunt >.>) but she handled it pretty well (I think I skipped that scene where Ed is beating up Tucker though). She really likes the show (she even has a FMA wall scroll in her room!) So pretty much know what episodes you're going to show to him and it'll be fine. :D

The Commodore
01-01-2007, 01:44 AM
I don't think I would worry so much about the violence, and more about some of the themes on the show. There are a lot of things that might be hard for the younger set to comprehend, and even some ideas that might scare them. Violence is everywhere these days, and no matter how much you try to protect someone from it, they can still see people getting shot/stabbed/etc. just by turning on the TV. And you know, it IS animated violence after all. With the swearing, I would stress to him that those are words he should not say - "bad words" as I called them when I was younger. Once again, swearing is something that people are naturally exposed to over time. Just tell him that they are things he should not repeat.

I know my parents were very protective of me from violence and such - it took a lot of convincing to let my mom allow me to get my first Teen rated game, and I was 10 or 11 then (And geez with N64 graphics you didn't see much anyway). I don't know when I saw my first R-rated movie. My mom is still kind of weird about me watching things rated R and I am almost 16. I don't like that totally sheltering a kid from the real world is the best thing to do. I can understand you not wanting to push a lot of negative things towards your brother, but I think if he wants to see FMA, you should let him watch it. It's an excellent anime and even if there is some violence and swearing, there are still a lot of positive lessons that can be taken away from it. "Hiding" something from a child only makes them want it more. (Personally, I don't buy all the banning M rated video games and whatnot. Not every kid who sees violence is going to want to repeat it. When your brother sees someone shot or something on FMA, I doubt he would go out and try to repeat that.)

However, the final decision is up to you and your parents to discuss.

MikoTorren
01-02-2007, 10:33 AM
While i know FMA was aimed at teens+ for an age range, i dont think it'd be horrible to let your brother watch it either. If yout hink hes mature enough, go for it. Like other people have said, try and...well, skip a few scenes here andthere, and dont let him watch a few episodes. My guess is dont let him watch some of the really really bloody episodes (probably like the Nina part and certain death scenes) and the last few episodes.

You are right, that this series doesnt have pointless death and such like others. It actually takes a very good view on it, and it might be good, too. In particular i'm thinking of when Ed had to kill Sloth and there was the whole moral dilemma thing where he and al fought over whether or not she should die. Its powerful, and it may be hard to take in at that age, but even if he only grasps the lighter concepts, thats cool too.

Hanabishi
01-02-2007, 10:43 AM
Hm...I wouldn't say FMA is for kids at all. There's alot of gore, obviously. There's only traces of nudity, but definitely alot of cursing. I guess none of those are left out in today's culture, but I don't know. I wouldn't suggest it to a kid under thirteen. Majority of the time, they aren't mature enough to watch it. There are off chances when they are, which is great, but getting young children to watch these anime's is what's turning almost all conventions into 'family-friendly' cons, which isn't exactly fair to the lot of us who are older ^^ Just my opinion. Good discussion topic, though. I discuss this with my anime club all the time : )

Crimson Firefly
01-02-2007, 09:50 PM
I personally would rather let a little kid watch FMA than Naruto. That may sound weird, but the problem with Naruto is that the violence is often without consequence. The main characters can get stabbed with needles a hundred times and don't die... the characters don't seem to lose anything coming out of battles... fighting is the way they get what they want. I'm not sure if that's a great message for kids to be picking up.

FMA on the other hand may be dark and deals with serious themes, but as someone mentioned before it doesn't have violence for violence's sake. It also shows that fighting can kill people... which is a lesson that kids will have to learn growing up anyway. The characters themselves struggle with issues of morality, which in turn helps the audience sort the same issues out... when Ed kills a person for the first time you can tell that he feels great regret for his actions even though that person was his enemy. The show also puts a lot of stress on the destructiveness of war considering that many characters were deeply affected by the Ishbal war.
Even though 'bad things' happen that you definately wouldn't want a kid repeating, the show itself through the plotline lets viewers know that the behaviours some characters show is not right.

And if you let a younger sibling watch a show like this, it's best to watch it with them and discuss it after.
Exposure to violence by itself does not make poorly adjusted, violent, uncontrollable children, but rather it's the way it is presented.

Celeborn
01-03-2007, 01:14 AM
Granted, my little brother is extremely mentally mature for his age, but that doesn't mean he won't get bad nightmares about Scar trying to kill him or something.

Since you've seen the show before, I think you could actually do a lot to help if something like that happened. Scar's a perfect example- I can definitely see how, early on in the show, he could give a kid nightmares. What he does to Nina, and to the State Alchemists he encounters... those things are- and he is- violent and frightening, but you know that there's more to him than that. If your brother has nightmares about him, you can tell him that Scar's not really a bad guy- he's hurt and angry, yes, but not evil. Personally, that's true of a lot of villains in the series- every single one of the Homonculi has a human side (okay, so some of them don't have much of one :b), and none of them are just Freddy Krueger-ish hack-and-slashers. To my mind, knowing that a frightening character isn't truly a monster would be a great help.

'Course, if the problem character is Barry the Chopper, then you're on your own. >_> ;)

As far as skipping episodes... I have a bit of a hard time with that. I don't at all think it's wrong, but... the plot of FMA is so complex and long-reaching, that the series might become hard to understand if you skip parts of it. At the very least, you'd have to explain what happened in those episodes, and how easy could it be to leave nothing important out? For example, that episode with Nina has great repercussions in the series (I mean, look at everything that happens with Shou Tucker after that, and Ed's anger with Scar for his part in what happened) and Ed flashbacks to it regularly. That leads to another point- that shot of the bloodstain on the wall appears a number of times in flashbacks throughout the show. It's not easy to avoid.

About the violence itself, I agree for the most part with what folks have been saying about FMA treating the subject well; and I agree with, well, pretty much everything Crimson Firefly said. Well spoken!

Honestly, my instinct is that, if someone isn't ready to watch a significant portion of a series, then they probably aren't ready to watch it at all. The experience will be far richer if they can do so when they're old enough, not only to watch the show in its entirety, but also to more fully appreciate what they're seeing.