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PikminLink
08-12-2003, 01:25 AM
some body wrote this at the g phoria message boards, and I feel HIGHLY INSULTED! And I cant beleive this person said this about the others too.


"I have never been so insulted as a gamer and a fan of Anime than this. What were they thinking?Did they even stop for a second and think how retarded they look and how ignorent it was to do what they did? What did a 12 year old plan this show?Did some Middle school students set this whole show up? Costumes poorly done,ppl very ugly looking which made things much,much, worse.....I thought I was going blind for a while.....Sora,Sephiroth,Zelda,and the others SUX SOOO MUCHAA....What an insult to those games,characters,developers,character creators, and to GAMERS!!!!

It's a bad show when I stop watching it after I have seen retards insulting Good Games by dressing up as the Characters and looking horrible. "

Sana-chan
08-12-2003, 01:29 AM
Oh gawd @_@. I hate when people just sit there and insult other people's work when they can't do anything better. Everyone on the show looked absolutely fantastic and it seemed to be very well done.

PikminLink
08-12-2003, 01:29 AM
heres more:

"The worst part of it: Sad, sad people dressed as video game characters "

Rey-Rey
08-12-2003, 01:31 AM
It's only one opinion. Don't get hellbent over it. *shrugs*

PikminLink
08-12-2003, 01:33 AM
actually no...thats what the whole forum was about mainly...insulting us cosplayers and the show

Rey-Rey
08-12-2003, 01:38 AM
Take it with a grain of salt. There's always going to be a percentage of people who will dislike what you do.

There's already a percentage of people that dislike video games, anime, chess, basketball, insert hobby here. So, yeah, it can be discouraging... but you just gotta keep going.

If anything, they don't have a life discussing this kind of topic on a message board. They need to get out more. Move on and keep cosplaying. *shrugs*

DarkGunner
08-12-2003, 01:51 AM
thats flippin ridiculous....every cosplayer there looked great!

JustinCredible
08-12-2003, 01:56 AM
To make you feel better, I would sit you down infront of a television and we'd watch 'Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back' (Well.. thats basically my answer to everything).

The point is... don't take things posted on the internet too personal... and lets face facts... a lot of people are total idiots, just sit back and watch the monkeys throw crap at each other for fun! UNless.. you want to find out their addresses and trek across the country to kick their asses (Jay and Silent Bob Style)!

gosh... I gotta cut down on the ViewAskew references...

Daitenshi
08-12-2003, 01:56 AM
Yeah, but to people who don't understand cosplay we're nothing abut a bunch of ridiculous looking dorks @_@

There are very few positive threads regarding G-phoria on those boards......

PikminLink
08-12-2003, 01:58 AM
"And then that pathetic Kingdom Hearts routine. Wha the hell was that?! I don't give damn about some ugly people that style their hair in disturbing ways, then lip-synch a dialouge! That was scary! And the fact that Sora was played by some guy hat looked like he was 30 years old, that was just sad. For shame G4... "



....honestly i thought it was really cool! youll never see anything better than that! and Im proud of how we all did our stuff, but i just hate it how other people see it ..if you know what i mean

Watcher
08-12-2003, 01:59 AM
Take it with a grain of salt. There's always going to be a percentage of people who will dislike what you do.

Truer words have never been spoken. Take it from me -- I worked for AOL (cringes) for about 6 years in the late '90's, moderating boards, and I've come to discover that people who are pleased with something *generally* don't rush right out and post about it. Well, cosplay.com being an exception. :D The nay-sayers who post their whiney rants on message boards like that are a small percentage overall, but they're the percentage who posts first.

Look at it this way. Daily, in business all over the country, contented customers *generally* pay for their services recieved and go about their merry lil way. They *generally* don't stand up and praise the business to the top of their lungs.

But you let one customer be dissapointed, and *generally* they're the ones who makes a scene all over the place. They're the ones who get noticed -- and it's the same logic on these boards. ;)

Don't let these small-minded people spoil what was a good thing. I saw the spot, and I thought everyone handled themselves professionally. The costumes were excellent, the participants knowledgable, and I didn't see one ugly person there.
:cool:

Those whiners are just jealous they can't be as cool as the people who went to G-Phoria. :razz:


(( Oh, forgive the overuse of words like *general*. This lil bit is my opinion, and I didn't want anyone to think I was preaching. ))

Freya
08-12-2003, 02:01 AM
Amen! And besides, these people haven't ever spent a day in their life learning a craftsmanship skill such as sewing! At least we're doing something productive with our lives. 0_o

But like everyone is saying, don't let it get to ya. Just remember you're an AWESOME Link. ^_^

Admin
08-12-2003, 02:03 AM
It's just a bunch of kids trying to prove to their peers (and themselves) that they're not as nerdy as others, by ripping into other people. After reading the posts (and the predictable grammar that went along with them) it kinda comes across like the homophobic guy at the sports bar who feels he has to do everything he can to irrefutably prove he's not gay by acting extra-macho whenever someone directs a gay joke at him.

It's a random messageboard and it's not very moderated, and the kids there know you're not around to defend yourself. Therefore you're an easy target. As some others have said, just move on and take pride in the fact that you have a hobby, and they obviously need one.

PikminLink
08-12-2003, 02:06 AM
thanks i know how you all are telling me to let it go, but this is the first time i have ever been insulted like this*not just me* and you know how hard it can be the first time......^^ but you guys are right, and im trying to calm down, but im sure you know how i feel

i agree Freya, the only skill they have is to sit on their butts all day and play games ^^

Rey-Rey
08-12-2003, 02:10 AM
See? You're already flinging back yourself! That's the spirit, ol' chap! *flails hands like a little schoolgirl*

ZeroOne1010
08-12-2003, 02:11 AM
Um.. I usually don't post, however, in this case I have to say that people who insult things that individuals have put their time and dedication into really pisses me off. I watched the G-phoria show and I would have to say that the ONLY positive highlight was the cosplayers. I give my respect to those who went up on stage and showed them who owned the house that night! It at least gives me a bigger interest and respect for the world of cosplay. Excuse me for my rant, but respect should be given when due.

The-Real-Link
08-12-2003, 02:12 AM
Holy crap what are these people thinking!!?!?!

Watcher as well as everyone else who gave sage advice said what I will now say: The event was GREAT! I would have no idea what kind of people could say such blatant ignorant things to all of you who worked so hard... I've had my fair share of loving retail work for 3+ years and I will say Watcher is correct about that. You can work hard and most people will be content, however the second you screw up... your business or you gets a bad rep. Those who take their costumes, businesses, attitiudes, and lifestyles to the next level are those who succeed. It is plainly obvious that people like that simply wish to make Pikmin, and everyone else feel horrible when they themselves most likely do not know or will not attempt to understand cosplay.

I have not actually read the boards but I've heard practically nothing good coming from them from everyone who has spoken about it. There will always be crab-apples, naysayers, and others who should be ignored or have the crap kicked outta them but as long as *YOU* enjoy what you're doing and putting as much effort into what you do... what they say does not matter!

Now if instead it was G4 staff or crew for the TV event who are saying this, then that is a different story to a degree. However if they felt like that about cosplay then I would wonder why they included it in the show - this I am not thinking is the case of course.

Admin
08-12-2003, 02:16 AM
The word I got from the producer was that the CEO of G4TV liked the cosplay so much he wants it again next year, and probably with even more integration into the show. So that's all that should really matter.

PikminLink
08-12-2003, 02:24 AM
well it really would be nice if they would have another next year^^

The-Real-Link
08-12-2003, 02:26 AM
It seems a very good chance now if the CEO not only likes it, but desires more of it and in a more integrated fashion. Just maybe next year there can be fewer whiny brats on the G4 forums ;)

Toka_pop
08-12-2003, 03:06 AM
Sounds like a case of jealousy, plain and simple.

All you have to do is examine what the cosplayers had going for them:
The guts to get up on stage
The talent to make great costumes
The attention of everyone in the audience
The admiration of many of the audience members

Okay, now let's look at what the flamers had going for them:
*crickets chirping*
Erm..yeah...

The-Real-Link
08-12-2003, 03:14 AM
Lol! Very true :)

Aya Mizu
08-12-2003, 03:16 AM
Hey, if the top brass of G4TV likes it so much to want it again, you're assured that you're doing something right :)

I personally don't have that channel but from what I heard, it was great to watch and the picture they have on the official website of Matt in his costume was extremely cool. ^_^

cactusmomma
08-12-2003, 03:18 AM
the guy who started that thread sounds like he spends way too much time chained up in his mom's basement ~_~ he needs a 'glomp me' sign *nod*

hello kenney
08-12-2003, 03:23 AM
I think the cheers and applause from the crowd during that segment is proof enough that you were an important and entertaining part of the show.

Thats the thing with success- it always brings out the jealousy and hateful comments from others. You did something unique and achieved what all those nerds on that forum didnt- you got air time on thier favorite channel.

In the idiots defense, I thought the Kingdom Hearts scene was a little fruity, although the costumes and acting were perfect.

grunger_kittie
08-12-2003, 04:18 AM
I have learned that people who spend their lives at Video Game, or Wrestling Message boards, are the most negative people on earth. They get jelous, and start fights when someone may be a "Bigger" fan than them, so they tear it down, and insult anyone involved.

I'm just thinking that these kids were jelous that they weren't recognized for their dedication to their characters, and just took shots at the cosplayers over it.

I haven't seen G-Phoria yet, but a friend taped it for me, I plan to watch it later. Everyone else, either just Chill, or Launch an all out attack on the G4 message boards lol.
(Im not REALLY saying you should.)


(But if you do, let me know... I'd like to see it) lol

Taru-chan
08-12-2003, 04:33 AM
Ugh, I went to the bored and someone actually asked why we didn't make MASKS?! Ok...uh...no. 9_9

~KT~

Tainted Donut
08-12-2003, 05:05 AM
that kinda sux, he went all out on u guys, you should hurt him...jk

KANEDA
08-12-2003, 05:59 AM
those gamers live in a world of fantasy and crap.
I call it Fanta-Crap.

i know alot of gamers.. and they freak me out.
they aren't in touch with reality.
I'm all for creating your own reality.. but goddamn... creepy weirdos!!

Lady_Sephiroth
08-12-2003, 06:53 AM
Do what I did, send a positve e-mail to that info@g4 e-mail address. I signed up for those boardswhen the channel first started but I think I've posted a grand total of like 3 times. They all live in the perpetual hope of getting picked to be on G4tv.com, the channl's version of a talk show. And one of the segments is flamer of the week or something like that. That's what this person is gunning for, I bet.

I'll have to watch that show and if they actually read any of the negative cosplay comments on the air, THEN we have a problem.

Adella
08-12-2003, 06:56 AM
I talked to Laura Foy backstage and she was a real nice girl. it was amusing though because she asked if I was a forum goer.. and I said yes.. and then she asked if I'd ever argued with her. I was like O_O; no.

Daitenshi
08-12-2003, 08:44 AM
Originally posted by Toka_pop
Sounds like a case of jealousy, plain and simple.



I really doubt that they're jealous. The people saying they hated the cosplayer segment aren't exactly the type secretly wishing they could look like us. No. They don't understand why people cosplay, think it looks stupid (that's their opinion *shrugs*), and felt a strong need to voice their dissaproval without propper grammar XD

They nuthin' but haters, yo.

Nekobun
08-12-2003, 10:19 AM
Being a G4 forum regular (also as Nekobun), I can assure you of one very simple fact:

90% of the G4 forum-goer community are your typical, pathetic, mostly illiterate weiner twinks. The boards are 1/3 spam and 1/3 petty arguments, and really, considering the opinion of almost any of them isn't worth -anyone's- time.

I haven't bothered going into the G-Phoria forum at all, but I doubt it differs much from the subforums there I do frequent. Don't worry about it; the few who have dared to come into the chat openly hating cosplayers ("cosplayers can't be gamers, ever" - cute night, that was) have been readily ripped new ones by the regulars there, thanks in part to some spreading of the gospel by those of us in there who -do- cosplay and game. And, actually, some non-players have sort of been turned onto the idea recently, to boot.

But yeah, for every brain cell of those telling you you're a "costume-weraing fagget", there's at least fifty such cells of someone actually appreciating your work.

Eriol
08-12-2003, 10:51 AM
It's another day at the forums.
Nothing to see here. Move along.
Enjoy your accomplishments.

Romann
08-12-2003, 11:16 AM
Originally posted by Eriol
It's another day at the forums.
Nothing to see here. Move along.
Enjoy your accomplishments.


LOL I agree. This isn't the first time people have put down cosplayers. I used to let it irk me a lot, but now I deal wth it. Believe me, this isn't the first, nor the last time people, ( in general) are going to put down cosplaying. Now that's said, let's go have a drink:cheers:

KaineMaxwell
08-12-2003, 11:41 AM
That's ridiculous, especially after all the time and effort they put into the costumes.

Eriol
08-12-2003, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by Noir Lumine
Now that's said, let's go have a drink:cheers:

A glass of wine is all I can take. heh

Let's not turn this into a con drinking discussion. heh

Vespaa
08-12-2003, 12:21 PM
I think it's threads like this that further entice those people to act like a$$holes. (Are we allowed to curse on these boards...?) Who the hell really cares what they think? As long as the Cosplayers involved had a good time, which they obviously did, I don't think what a couple of morons on the boards think matters. If they have nothing else better to do with their time, then they should just stick their thumbs in their asses and stfu.

You'll never get 100% support or praise for anything you do in life. EVER.

A J
08-12-2003, 12:34 PM
PikminLink, don't let this stuff get to you. There will always be people who don't understand why we do what we do. Some are just more vocal than others. First time you run across someone insulting you is always a shock. Then you realize it's just going to happen. You can't control what others think or say, so don't lose sleep over it.

"Unlike others here, I LIKED the Cosplay segments, because I know some cosplayers and know that they make those costumes in their spare time with their own money. I thought they were all amazing and it was great that Cosplayers finally got some POSITIVE TV time. " -- BlackWolf

"Here's the thing, cos play is HUGE among a certain population of gamers and anime fans. The fact that it was even featured at ALL shows that SOMONE has at least one finger on the collective gaming culture pulse. I absolutely agree that it could have been done better, but the fact that it was done at all is groundbreaking TV IMHO." -- Mark Wolfe

These are quotes from 2 guys on the board who are long time posters on the G4 boards and BlackWolfe is a professional gamer. And they're supporting us! I think these opinions would count more than some kid who's out to impress his peers by bashing.

Plus, the cosplay community supported the show and all of us in it, and I think I value their opinions more than some malcontents on a gaming board right? =)

-AJ

PS. Go Aeris! You womp that idiot SoulBurn. =D

AniMajor
08-12-2003, 12:39 PM
I remember when I first learned about cosplaying. I thought these weirdos made costumes and dressed up for no reason. I was like "Waht the heck?" I thought that you could go to costume parties or Halloween dressed up as your favorite anime character, but it looked like these people dressed up and pranced around their backyard or public places in catsuits. One day, though, I thought "Hey, these people aren't a bunch of losers prancing around in bad costumes in public places. Most of these people are losers who prance around in very well done costumes, and they have conventions for these things." Then the sky opened up and God said "BAM!" and I wanted to do it, too. I knew how to sew sortof, and made my first costume, and became one of the losers that walk around conventions in catsuits.

The guy that posted that needs to see the light.

JacksUsername
08-12-2003, 01:50 PM
i stopped going to the g4 boards quite a while ago, although there are a few nice people on the boards, the majority of them are either being cynical and child-like or are sucking up to the hosts. I really do like some of the shows and i was really doubtful of how great the G-Phoria was going to be, but after watching it, it looked like a lot of fun and it was a very good awards show.
I thought the cosplay was amazing too....i just looked at the costumes and dropped my jaw for all of them, they were all so incredibly good.

L to the 3rd
08-12-2003, 02:06 PM
well those people are just stupid cuz they don't understand
and they obviously have very high expectations.. i
t's not like g-phoria is paying actual models with official game costumes to strut around.. they have to remember that cosplayers are just regular fans, but with talent and guts to go on stage! and that should be more respected.

Mandy Mitchell
08-12-2003, 02:50 PM
There's always going to be a small percentage of people in this world who'll hate you no matter what you do. The best thing to do is to ignore them. We know that all the cosplay participants at G4 did a terrific job! :D

Lil Dreamer
08-12-2003, 03:46 PM
well, those ppl on the G4 boards are the recipients of the program and, ultimately, your cosplay through their television. they have every right to criticize what they saw, good or bad. it's what the target demo does. ppl always clamor and complain about bad movies and stale actors here on this very board and i never, and i mean NEVER hear anyone say "Well, Keanu Reeves may have been a bad actor in the Matrix, but at least he gave it his all and I appreciate all his hard work" on these boards. the target demographic that see ppls works are in under NO obligation to praise your work or keep their mouths shut about it. get over the fact that u got insulted by a bunch of strangers who saw u on TV. besides, who forced YOU to expose yourself on cable television anyways?

Nipple. :)

Sepiraph
08-12-2003, 03:49 PM
Never take the opinion of 11-14 years old seriously, or someone with similiar mental capacity... unless they have a gun.

Arisugawa Juri
08-12-2003, 04:56 PM
People gain a certain amount of courage online as they do not have to insult anyone face to face. They simply experience an ego-boost, causing them to feel entitled to say such things from the safety of their room. Fifty percent of the time these are the people who compliment you on your costume in person, then whisper about it to their friends when you are out of earshot. I would not take it too seriously. To each his own.. as long as you and the other cosplayers enjoyed yourselves, what's there to worry about?

Kusanagi
08-12-2003, 06:06 PM
I've gotten hate mail because of my cosplay before. Actually, the first post gave an example of what someone posted. I actually have more respect for the guy that posted it than usual, because he actually did state his opinion in a calm ordered way instead of the "Cosplay is for gay fags and fat chicks" that make up the majority of EVERY anti-cosplay thread I've ever seen.

Yes, to the rest of the world, we ARE dorks. Within the cosplay community however we are all feared and respected. ^_^

Same thing with the gamers except they tend to be worse. "j00 don't know me? I'm the 1337est Counterstrike Player EVER!" And within THEIR own circle, they probably have respect.

But since I'm not a member of their circle, I think they are all losers with no life :-)

If you get take an insult from a pimply 13 year old kid embracing the anonymity of the internet personally, you should pick a new hobby. :shrug:

Himemiya
08-12-2003, 10:01 PM
There's this guy who thinks hes the best DDR player ever, and will be sure to tell you so :P I work at the arcade and I give DDR players some of my own tokens sometimes (since I get them for free). So one day he says something along the lines of "Stupid Ugly Cosplayers"... I don't give him tokens no more, no matter how much he whines ^^

Some people just don't understant, and theres no way we can make them. But we don't have to give them ammo, or in my case, tokens.

PikminLink
08-12-2003, 10:05 PM
....im actually getting over it^^ *bows* but i actually found out that the main criticiser of the cosplayer was an older guy *i assume* who is married and has a daugter. I havent seen any good comment come out from him for anything.....so it seems that he has the problem and not us! we never did^_~ ....

...and he also stated that sees people putting $10,000-$30,000 into it costumes..and we put only $70.......honestly..is it possible to do that????>_> ...hes just a jerk with no life.........id like to see him do better

and thanks everyone for your posts in making me feel alot better, honestly i never though some people hate cosplay THIS much!.....you all have been kind ^__^

dmdflarekojima
08-12-2003, 10:32 PM
Originally posted by Sepiraph
Never take the opinion of 11-14 years old seriously, or someone with similiar mental capacity... unless they have a gun.

Very True... though I doubt they would know how to use the gun that they're holding.

Cyber Wolf
08-12-2003, 10:48 PM
Well...that depends where those kids are from ^^;;;;;

I'm glad you're starting to feel better Pikman ^.^ Personally, I wouldn't care about what those people said (it might sting for a while though). Cause they really don't know how much skill a hobby like this can take, how much time and money needs to be put into it, etc. So, I don't care ^.^

The-Real-Link
08-12-2003, 10:48 PM
...and he also stated that sees people putting $10,000-$30,000 into it costumes.........honestly..is it possible to do that????>_> ...hes just a jerk with no life.........id like to see him do better

Agreed! Spending that much on a costume is either crazy, or someone with an insane desire to cosplay.

Better yet, how about both?

Where are there even costumes like that? I've certainly never seen any.

Cyber Wolf
08-12-2003, 10:50 PM
There are probably...just for the movies though XD That guy's a tad misinformed :D

L to the 3rd
08-12-2003, 10:57 PM
>,< urg...but yeah well like I learned, not everyone out there is going to accept or like you. So the only thing you can do is do your thing and ignore them! Oh fricken well if they didn't like it, it's their loss. Don't take it personally guys, they're just a bunch of ignorant people who will make fun of ANYTHING to make themselves feel better about themselves.

The-Real-Link
08-12-2003, 11:02 PM
It is really unfortunate to have that happen, even though you know eventually it will happen :(

Just bounce back and feel better! Know any of you that were critized has an awesome cosplay community to back you up! They have no life if they resort to that kind of abusive talk.

Eriol
08-13-2003, 12:08 AM
Originally posted by PikminLink
...and he also stated that sees people putting $10,000-$30,000 into it costumes..and we put only $70.......honestly..is it possible to do that????


I think there was a Japanese cosplayer that spent close to $10,000 for costume materials for a single costume (due to the elaborate nature of the costume).

Depending on the nature of the costume and the sources you can access, very elaborate costumes can be expensive.

Though, I'd rather find ways to invest $10,000 if I had that much.


Originally posted by PikminLink
>_> ...hes just a jerk with no life.........id like to see him do better

Just another guy who doesn't have enough information and understanding and then proceeds to clump costumers together into a easy category for his personal persecution. But he is entitled to his opinion. We don't have to listen.

PikminLink
08-13-2003, 01:24 AM
i think $10,000 is way way too much.....and good costumes dont depend on how much money you put into it....really, sometimes people get really lucky when they find something they need for a real cheap price, *If you know what im saying...*....they arent rated like...example...oh person A put $10,000 into their outfit and person B put only $70. so than person A has the better outfit than person B....................

that is not how i see it....and it really shouldnt been seen that way...

LiL QoH
08-13-2003, 01:58 AM
Aww I wish I could've seen the show :(

Adella
08-13-2003, 02:17 AM
Originally posted by PikminLink
....im actually getting over it^^ *bows* but i actually found out that the main criticiser of the cosplayer was an older guy *i assume* who is married and has a daugter. I havent seen any good comment come out from him for anything.....so it seems that he has the problem and not us! we never did^_~ ....

...and he also stated that sees people putting $10,000-$30,000 into it costumes..and we put only $70.......honestly..is it possible to do that????>_> ...hes just a jerk with no life.........id like to see him do better

and thanks everyone for your posts in making me feel alot better, honestly i never though some people hate cosplay THIS much!.....you all have been kind ^__^

He was not an older guy. Just cuz one says they have a wife and kid doesn't make it true. He acted more like the lonely 12 year old who attempted to insult something to make friends and then got creamed by several different parties.

Shadowlvr
08-13-2003, 02:19 AM
Sigh... They still had no right to say that. makes me kinda sad but hey u just gotta keep on goin theres always someone out to get you in the world just try to make the bet out of it. Its not like there going to go with signs and start pickiting outside a convention.

at times like these u say.....The hell with them lol.

L to the 3rd
08-13-2003, 02:31 AM
$10,000 on a costume? Yea....NO. after I rob a bank, maybe -_-;

A J
08-13-2003, 02:34 AM
Maybe he wasn't talking US currency? =)

Eriol
08-13-2003, 09:43 AM
Originally posted by PikminLink
i think $10,000 is way way too much.....and good costumes dont depend on how much money you put into it....really, sometimes people get really lucky when they find something they need for a real cheap price, *If you know what im saying...*....they arent rated like...example...oh person A put $10,000 into their outfit and person B put only $70. so than person A has the better outfit than person B....................

that is not how i see it....and it really shouldnt been seen that way...

Well, to brag you spent X on this car or this dress is usually to flaunt your wealth on others. People are impressionable....

You choose not to get caught up in the rate race.


Originally posted by A J
Maybe he wasn't talking US currency? =)

I think it was some lady that was featured in Fan's View in the notes. I do remember reading this.

That was equivalent to $10,000 U.S.

lialia
08-13-2003, 10:31 AM
$10000??!

*dies*

If I had that much cash I'd pay off my car and my credit cards first. Then I ~might~ use what was left for an incredible costume.

Anyways, those people are just closed-minded morons who have no appreciation for art. *which is what I like to think we create*

You guys all looked incredible and I'm pea green with envy. *in a healthy sort of way*

DigitalCactus
08-13-2003, 02:43 PM
ooh I wish I could have seen it but I was at Otakon this past weekend.. Anyway Im sure all those taht participated looked fantastic.

Dont let jerks who probably could never do any better or even be up to par with your fantastic workmanship. People like that are always going to exist, and you just need to remember you're not doing it for the nay sayers... but rather for yourself and your fellow cosplayers

cactusmomma
08-13-2003, 03:02 PM
.....i want $10000 o.o

tax free and in small bills plzkthxu

The_Box
08-13-2003, 03:38 PM
Id like $10,000 then i could Bling out the box.O.O

just joking,even tho seriously,like everyone else id like $10,000 in small bills.:D

Eriol
08-13-2003, 03:49 PM
http://www.usagichan.com/AX2001/panels2.htm

See the section called, "Meet URAN, the Japanese Cosplayers"

I will have to retract the remark about $10,000, since I can no longer find this article, but the white Victorian-style gown the URAN woman was wearing in front of the panel table appeared not to be inexpensive.

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All I can vaguely remember is that there was an interview (not necessarily the one above) with one Japanese cosplayer female wearing a gown, who had spent a large sum of money to make that gown.

L to the 3rd
08-13-2003, 05:06 PM
You're talking about Nomi-san in the white dress. She probably
did spend a lot on her costume ...but in contrast, i remember that she said she only spend $25 on her other impressive shining silver knight costume (from Magic the gathering).

Okitasan
08-13-2003, 06:04 PM
$10000?? x_X

Eriol
08-13-2003, 06:10 PM
Originally posted by L to the 3rd
You're talking about Nomi-san in the white dress. She probably
did spend a lot on her costume ...but in contrast, i remember that she said she only spend $25 on her other impressive shining silver knight costume (from Magic the gathering).

$25 to mimic armor?
That's resourceful.

Adella
08-13-2003, 08:17 PM
Kabuki has already spent at least 2000$ over the past year working on his 18th century gown. It's nuts really.. and it's beautiful and completely handsewn to period accuracy... even the way the stay is laced is accurately done...

I really can't see myself spending over 200$ on a costume.. and that's mainly the cost of the wig.

Kabuki
08-13-2003, 11:32 PM
LMAO @ Adella plugging 'the dress from hell'


but yes...

Nomi's Robe a l'francaise gown was 300,000 yen I really don't doubt it tho considering prices of fabric in Japan X_x

on the flip side....it only took a month to make X__________X

Crazy Bunta
08-14-2003, 02:35 AM
I can't beleive anyone would listen to a word from the G-Phoria site. Those people on there have always just been trolls. Even G4 doesn't even go on their own boards.

They never have a positive thing to say and NEVER know what they're talking about. They just want to rant and gain attention.

Point is, don't even bother going on that board. G4 doesn't even go through and clean up and regulate the boards, and nobody really cares what a bunch of hate mongers have to say. It's like the KKK of video games there. If they were smart, they would just close the boards down, so that all of those idiots would go away.

BlueLady
08-14-2003, 10:56 AM
well Im not going to read all this cause it's alot so forgive my 2 cents if its already been said.

The hell with the little critic. I'de like to see him do better. Ignore the one pessimistic ( quite possibly jealious) jerk and bask in the praise of the 100s of others.

Eriol
08-14-2003, 11:09 AM
Originally posted by Kabuki
LMAO @ Adella plugging 'the dress from hell'


but yes...

Nomi's Robe a l'francaise gown was 300,000 yen I really don't doubt it tho considering prices of fabric in Japan X_x

on the flip side....it only took a month to make X__________X

That's $2,516.15 USD at today's exchange rates.

Just about everything is expensive in Japan.

FlameSniperRei
08-14-2003, 07:40 PM
2K yes, but 10K? Oh hell no. Nobody has 10K sitting around to spend on a costume unless they're like royalty or Bill Gates' children lol. Anyone with that much would put it towards like a car or a house x_x;

A J
08-14-2003, 07:49 PM
Originally posted by FlameSniperRei
2K yes, but 10K? Oh hell no. Nobody has 10K sitting around to spend on a costume unless they're like royalty or Bill Gates' children lol. Anyone with that much would put it towards like a car or a house x_x;

Seriously. I really don't think he's talking about USD$ tho. The guy mentioned cosplay in Singapore so he's probably talking foreign currency. Or I'm hoping so cause unless you're building a lifesize Gundam that moves, you really shouldn't need that much money for a costume.

*edited to fix spelling mistakes ^^;

Adella
08-15-2003, 12:34 AM
What kind of costume would possibly cost 10K anyway???

ZiggyB
08-15-2003, 02:36 AM
Um... the only think I could think of is if you wanted to make a Saint Saiya costume and make the armor out of 24k gold? 8-O

Satine
08-16-2003, 12:16 AM
I can see it if you were commisioning someone else to make something really complex for you.. and there are wedding dresses that go for easily that much... just as there are couture garments for that price (and I am talking US dollars here;) ) but for costuming? I know of people spending 1,500 on materials etc.. I think the most expensive costume I've made is my Black Diamonds because of how expensive beads are and how many times I've gone through making something then deciding it woud be better another way...

The_Box
08-16-2003, 10:20 PM
wow $1500 on a costume crazy... i would never put that much into a costume.

SoulCrash
08-18-2003, 03:11 AM
PikminLink: I think you should read this on what Gamespot have to say about the cosplay thing in G-phoria...

Not So Good: People in costume on stage reenacting scenes from Kingdom Hearts and lip-synching the dialogue.

That's the only thing they said about the cosplay stuff....

http://www.gamespot.com/gamespot/features/all/gamespotting/081703covertops/2.html

L to the 3rd
08-18-2003, 03:14 AM
Um... the only think I could think of is if you wanted to make a Saint Saiya costume and make the armor out of 24k gold? 8-O


That would be me..I'd be crazy enuff to do that ;p j/k.
but yea.. i am a huge saint seiya fan!!

Rey-Rey
08-18-2003, 03:23 AM
GameSpot also has reviews that I tend to disagree with.

What am I saying? Big deal.

Adella
08-18-2003, 01:51 PM
Not everyone's gonna like what we do people X_X; let's just get over it. Just cuz one guy on gamefaqs doesn't like it doesn't mean that 300 more people who read his article aren't going to.

Eriol
08-18-2003, 02:52 PM
Not everyone's gonna like what we do people X_X; let's just get over it. Just cuz one guy on gamefaqs doesn't like it doesn't mean that 300 more people who read his article aren't going to.

I'm waiting for the great war to happen between hardcore gamers and cosplayers. heh

Adella
08-18-2003, 03:10 PM
Just one type of nerd trying to make themselves be cooler than a different type of nerd. ^_^;

ZiggyB
08-18-2003, 04:22 PM
L^3: I want your job. ;-)

Actually slightly OT, but we should plan a Saint Seiya group sometime in the future. It's on my cosplay list. No 24k gold though. :>

Aeris: I have to say, cosplayers do have better weapons, even if they are cardboard and foamcore. ;-)

Eriol
08-18-2003, 05:00 PM
Aeris: I have to say, cosplayers do have better weapons, even if they are cardboard and foamcore. ;-)

Since this is the expected great war, there is not a requirement that combat be waged at hotels or convention grounds.

Live steel is likely acceptable.
So, which side is better equipped for battle?

Gren
08-19-2003, 12:07 PM
Who needs live steel when you've got pvc pipe and fiberglass. There's a sense of satisfaction in bludgeoning someone into submission with an oversized key.

The-Real-Link
08-19-2003, 12:10 PM
*grins* Where do I sign up? ^.^

We should see if this war can be settled with a nice game of SSBM but if not then I'll gladly back anyone up.

KaineMaxwell
08-19-2003, 12:15 PM
To make you feel better, I would sit you down infront of a television and we'd watch 'Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back' (Well.. thats basically my answer to everything).

The point is... don't take things posted on the internet too personal... and lets face facts... a lot of people are total idiots, just sit back and watch the monkeys throw crap at each other for fun! UNless.. you want to find out their addresses and trek across the country to kick their asses (Jay and Silent Bob Style)!

gosh... I gotta cut down on the ViewAskew references...
Nah, ViewAskew references are great. ^_^

AgentSakur9
08-19-2003, 12:20 PM
you da bomb in Phantoms yo

Adella
08-19-2003, 02:28 PM
bludgeoning damage vs piercing damage!

Eriol
08-19-2003, 03:14 PM
*grins* Where do I sign up? ^.^

We should see if this war can be settled with a nice game of SSBM but if not then I'll gladly back anyone up.

At this point, it would be SSBM: Live, because the cosplayers would dress as SSBM characters and proceed to whomp the hardcore gamers.

hikura
08-19-2003, 05:05 PM
Who needs live steel when you've got pvc pipe and fiberglass. There's a sense of satisfaction in bludgeoning someone into submission with an oversized key.
Oh this is so true.Nothing like a good old fashioned beat down with a nice Club or pipe.True swords can be faster and blooder but nothing like hearing yelp in pain as bones are being heard cracking and breaking.SSBM would be the best.I play games but i realize that alot of people put loads of time and effort into there hobbies(like costume making and wearing).But to others that would put people down like are crude and insensitive and should be ingored completely.

Tainted Donut
08-19-2003, 05:09 PM
well i think that you should just ignore the moron, i mean if he has his own insulting opinion like that, then he should keep it to himself, if he said that to me id be outraged also, but still, be the better person and just ignore someone thats rude enough to say something like that directed towards enough people that can teach him a good lesson.

Mira Twilight
08-21-2003, 03:27 PM
Okay, I'm going to have to say, I watched Gphoria, and I think you all were the highlight of the show. I only wished it was longer! There's no way ANY of you could be considered "ugly", I actually thought you all looked very sexy on stage, so don't let some middle-aged video game geek say otherwise. If he's married and has kids, and videogames are STILL his main concern in life, what does that tell you?

nekomi
08-22-2003, 02:51 AM
Did they even stop for a second and think how retarded they look and how ignorent it was to do what they did?

It's spelled ignorant. :rolleyes:

Mira Twilight
08-22-2003, 03:09 AM
lol, also, did they even understand what the meaning of the word "ignorant" applies? What they did was show their love for the same videogames that jackass loves, only in a different manner. Instead of people like him, mashing their greasy lardass fingers on their worn out PS2 in their mom's basement, these people worked hard to make their favortite characters come to life in a very professional manner. "Oh my god! you ruined my favorite game!" -HELLO?! It's not like it was made by DISNEY in the first place or anything. If you went to friggin Disney World and they were planning some show based off of KH, you'd be seeing the exact same thing, except with sappy Disney-esque theming. Considering they had to audition in the first place to be there shows the producers wanted this to take place, and they were instructed as such. I thought Gphoria was one of the lamest pieces of geekdom shame on cable, and the only thing that even kept my interest was my excitement in seeing the cosplayers. Out of all the horribly sad segments on there, this little prick had the nerve to mock the cosplay part? There's no way he could have actually enjoyed that drawn out waste of time. I loved seeing the cosplayers so much, and thought it was very well done, the 'only' thing to tell you the truth.

This guy's probably some middleaged geek who has way too much time on his hands...I mean they're pixels.....
Some people need to get out into the real world, and for christsakes: "Get out of your mother's basement, you're 35 years old. Go lose your fucking virginity!"-lol