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penny_dreadful
07-10-2006, 08:27 PM
I *love* themed lolis. I've seen quite a few so far-- Pikachu Lolis, Camo Lolis, etc.

After carrying my plush Cthulhu in my cleavage while wearing my wa-loli this weekend, I kind of want to do a Cthulhu-loli, which could possibly win for most obscure themed loli evar. I'm thinking... lots of tentacles.

I'm curious to know what themed lolis people have done in the past, and what are they planning?

--Penny

Zevaluz
07-10-2006, 09:26 PM
After carrying my plush Cthulhu in my cleavage while wearing my wa-loli this weekend, I kind of want to do a Cthulhu-loli, which could possibly win for most obscure themed loli evar. I'm thinking... lots of tentacles.

I *worship* you, that is the Coooolllllessttt idea! Please please post photos once you're done and show it off!

*really geeking out, wayyy in love with the Mythos*

HackerEd
07-10-2006, 10:28 PM
I have card ("Luck") and dice ("Chance") dresses in the works, material is being purchased next week. My friend wants me to do dresses based on the "Chuppies" from Sanrio but I haven't. And as cliche as it sounds I'm doing Alice in Wonderland outfits. A lot of them.

Malicious
07-11-2006, 12:16 AM
what about a samurai lolita? this idea just popped into my head right now ^^; have a lacy/ripped dress with a shuriken belt and katane with a cool olita head gear or something....hahahaha... i dunno

TiyenaKayla
07-11-2006, 01:09 PM
I've been contemplating with the idea of making an Amy(sonic adventures) wa-loli outfit. I have a few sketches so far but am still working on the finishing details

JesseX
07-11-2006, 04:32 PM
Cthulhu-loli is the best idea EVER. Seriously, awesome.

I'm planning a gay pride loli outfit for Pride next year, all fluffy and rainbow and adorable.

Koronue
07-11-2006, 04:53 PM
Well ( let's hope I get what you mean by 'theme' correctly or else I'll sound foolish ) I'm still in the process of trying to figure out if it's possible make a ninja/pirate themed loli. >.< I know pirate would be much easier, but so fortunately for me, I need to mix in ninja as there as well. Call it a dare if you will xD But I'm hoping to see if it will work.

accelagirl
07-11-2006, 08:06 PM
The past contest on LoliSnap was themed Pirates, and there were quite a few of pirate styled lolita outfits submitted (http://www.lolitasnap.com/image/tid/48)

The community is very anti-cosplay-lolita though, so the outfits aren't overly piratey themed. Before the pirate contest, there was also a Valentine, Christmas, and Halloween themed contest.

honeysaliva
07-11-2006, 08:20 PM
Cthulhu-loli is the best idea EVER. Seriously, awesome.

I'm planning a gay pride loli outfit for Pride next year, all fluffy and rainbow and adorable.

Sounds like it could pass for Fruits/decora/oshare/etcetceteidontknowthey'reallshiny.

*gets hit* :3

Um I want a Pirate Loli. T_T!

kaligoddess
07-12-2006, 11:08 AM
I've got the fabric ready for a polka-dot wa-loli. Don't know if I'm going to be able to get it done for Otakon because I'm still painting my parasols. :bigcry:

I also wanted to do a Rock Lo"Lee"ta, but someone did the idea before I could. I'll end up doing it anyway, but probably not until next summer.

Cat-Chan~
07-12-2006, 01:15 PM
Pretty much all my lolis are themed.
I have done the elegid Pikachu lolita as well as a Gir (from Invader Zim) dress with a fleece doggie jacket. I am currently planing an outit based off of Kurosaki Ichigo from Bleach, and a Hello Kitty outfit.

penny_dreadful
07-12-2006, 04:04 PM
Cat-Chan-- I thought your Gir-loli was GENIUS. I also love your Pikaloli (I saw another one this weekend but yours was more "traditionally" loli) and it was one of the ones I had in mind when I started the thread.

Look forward to seeing more from you!

--Penny

lolita*neko
07-12-2006, 07:42 PM
I actually love themed lolita. I don't like loli to be costume-looking since I wear it almost everytime I go out but when it's done well it can be pretty cool. I really want to do a ninja, music or Hello Kitty themed lolita for my next convention.


I'm planning a gay pride loli outfit for Pride next year, all fluffy and rainbow and adorable.

I did that for animazement this year. *lol* It wasn't as rainbow-y as I wanted it to be because I didn't finish it in time. But the finished version had rainbow ruffles on the skirt, the corset I made had rainbow paneling in the back (I'm thinking of adding rainbow triming..) and all my assories were rainbow. It was so cute; I got lots of compliments on it even if it wasn't completed. ^_^ Hopefully next time I wear it I can get some lucky girl to be my matching kodona *lol*

Key-chan
07-12-2006, 08:37 PM
Theme lolitas are fun to look at, especially since they can also give you new ideas as well. Ninja lolita would be a hard one to do, but maybe it would be easier if you thought of it in wa-loli inspiration.

Some theme lolitas that would be fun to do:
-Little Red Riding Hood
-Grim Reaper
-Miko
-Melon Bread (Don't ask..)

Koronue
07-12-2006, 08:45 PM
Haha, yes, trying to figure out how to tie in ninja with lolita is proving difficult. What else is to them but black? But Accelagirl, those pictures of the Pirate lolis were just so lovely, and they really helped alot. :)

HackerEd
07-12-2006, 11:26 PM
I agree, ninja might be easier to do as a wa-loli. Maybe even a qi-loli. Something to ponder at work tomorrow while I'm dusting. Good luck Koronue^^

accelagirl
07-13-2006, 12:06 AM
Haha, yes, trying to figure out how to tie in ninja with lolita is proving difficult. What else is to them but black? But Accelagirl, those pictures of the Pirate lolis were just so lovely, and they really helped alot. :)

i'm glad those helped!

one of my friends isn't a cosplayer, but was hoping to do a ninja-themed lolita outfit... i don't think it would look too ninja-like because she's not really a costumey person, but she was planning on incorporating fishnets with a wa-loli styled black dress, using opaque black knee high socks, and a face mask. i dunno how much of that you're doing already, but i figured i'd throw those ideas out there as well

Koronue
07-13-2006, 12:13 AM
Oh, I hadn't even considered a face mask, I just thought they might be hard to create was all. >.> But really, I'm willing to take anything I can get at this point. I was hoping to get the skirt pirate striped and the shirt under the corset-type top to look ruffly like a pirate as well, but I didn't know how to add the other parts as ninja-like. ( Haha, I'm realizing now how stupid I was to take that dare in mixing the two together O.o ) But I like your suggestions. Only I'm getting confused lately as to what wa-loli and those other styles are referring to. >.<

HackerEd
07-13-2006, 12:24 AM
Wa-loli is kimono inspired, while qi-loli is based off of chinese traditional clothing.

accelagirl
07-13-2006, 12:30 AM
i think it's mixing them together and still looking somewhat pretty and not completely insane would be the challenge xD

and oh! i'm sorry, waloli is wa-lolita, the kind of lolita dress that combines kimono and lolita.

http://www.lolitasnap.com/node/8162
http://www.lolitasnap.com/node/8161
http://www.lolitasnap.com/node/8137
http://www.lolitasnap.com/node/6424
http://www.lolitasnap.com/node/4910
http://www.lolitasnap.com/node/4152
http://www.lolitasnap.com/node/3340

are some waloli examples n.n

Koronue
07-13-2006, 12:40 AM
Oh wow! Those are so elegant! I'm feeling intimdated. >.<

But they do spark some interesting ideas, so thank you so much for posting those!! ^^

Gah, they kept switching and now I'm confused, for the front of the dress, is it left over right, or right over left? I don't even know anymore.

accelagirl
07-13-2006, 12:50 AM
it gets confusing because of the fact that some cameras flip images and some don't but it's left over right (you put the right side on first, then fold the left over it)

unless you're going to a funeral, and then it's right over left :3

Azira_No_Meikai
07-13-2006, 08:36 AM
youve just inspired me to do a Mokona Loli outift ~_~

starlightkitty
07-14-2006, 08:47 AM
I just finished a catgirl wa-loli for Otakon. I made it to match the front of my hair as it is at current. (bright pink)

Bealzabub
07-15-2006, 02:40 AM
I'd love to do a British Sci-Fi Lolita dress. Inspired by Doctor Who and Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy.

ArchFaith
07-15-2006, 05:02 AM
I've kind of been wanting to make a Star Wars lolita...I found Star Wars fabric at my local craft store, and the idea just popped into my head.

Also, I think a Luke lolita, Leia lolita, and Han lolita would be so cute!

Alivar
07-16-2006, 11:20 PM
I haven't even done my first loli yet, but I am deffinately more on the costume-ish side of the whole thing. I have a list and sketches of a bunch though. I'm sort of thinking of a Cheshire Cat loli, or a Pied Piper loli simply because they're my two favorite fairy tale type characters. But high on my list are also Beta fish, lionfish, and a dragon loli.

Cat-Chan~
07-17-2006, 12:09 AM
A beta, that would be adorable
:D

*Shiva*
07-17-2006, 02:37 AM
Themed Loli is great - we just had an Alice In Wonderland themed Loli tea party this past weekend.

I'm sort of thinking of a Cheshire Cat loli

Lol - that's the character I did. ^^

dark_mousy
07-17-2006, 04:05 AM
Yay for tentacles. <3 Hmm, I always wanted to do a Panda themes Loli... ;o; Because Panadas are so cuuuute. x3

/end

AZNPRDE420666
07-18-2006, 07:43 AM
I'm currently working on a Spiderman loli and a pink ranger loli.


I had tons of extra fabric around the house and didn't know what to do with it so I just said to heck with it i'll just make some themed loli outfits

Mirusu
07-18-2006, 09:33 AM
I'm definatly working on a strawberry wa loli

sacha
07-18-2006, 11:18 AM
I'm hoping to have a Cait Sith loli finished in time for Otakon this year ^^; <3

Cat-Chan~
07-18-2006, 12:33 PM
Spiderman!
thats awsome

The pink ranger is going to be pretty snazzy too

Koronue
07-20-2006, 08:42 PM
You know, it's interesting, but the more I've been getting into the Loli Scene, the more I find that I like it better than regular costuming. Now just regular GL though, I think it's the themed ones that really strike my fancy. As my enthusiasm for regular cosplays were sadly beginning to wane, I think it's sparked up again as I've realized with all this talk of spiderman and alice in wonderland loli's, the freedom I have to create a dress or GL inspired outfit for any one of my favorite characters. Yay! Ok, just wanted to celebrate a little. ^^

pictishlass
07-23-2006, 10:09 PM
Both the gay-pride and Cthulhu lolis sound absoltely brilliant!

penny_dreadful
08-01-2006, 11:04 AM
Okay, I finally got started on the Cthulhu Loli. Pictures of the crown are up in my gallery. (http://images.cosplay.com/gallery.php?cat=48745&member=42739) Unfortunately I'm working on too much right now to have time or money to do anything else, but at least it's a start and looking at it keeps me motivated to get the rest started...

--Penny

tramsosMAI
08-20-2006, 10:29 PM
I made a watermelon-loli that I meant to wear this summer, but I never got around to finishing the accesories for it. ; __ ; I'm going to make a little puffed-sleeve shrug to cover my shoulders, and a little straw hat to tie on my head... I really need to hurry up and finish this.

But someone mentioned a Little Red Ridinghood loli on the first page... and Hmmm. HmMMMMmmmm.

Ashurachan
08-21-2006, 02:49 AM
One of my projects is a Final Fantasy inspired white mage sweet loli. I bought the fabric more than one year ago, I have the design in mind... Iive just been lazy (and right now I'm breastfeeding, so my bust is 3 inches more than normal, not great for fitting).

SunakoChan
08-21-2006, 11:32 AM
Yay for tentacles. <3 Hmm, I always wanted to do a Panda themes Loli... ;o; Because Panadas are so cuuuute. x3

/end

My sis an I are going as Panda lolis :bigtu:

I also plan on doing a dragon themed lolita :3

Rain Miko
08-21-2006, 04:08 PM
I'm making a purple sakura-themed loli. I even tossed a teaser pic in my main gallery =3

Alivar
08-21-2006, 07:31 PM
I've thought about a dragon loli, but I'm a little hesitant because when I think about it the design just seems too 'fierce' for lolita.

Technetium
08-21-2006, 08:42 PM
Ahh, you guys are starting to make me jealous. There are so many good ideas in this thread, but I just don't have the time or money for any of them. ;__;

I really want to make a pirate or ninja loli now..

SunakoChan
08-21-2006, 09:29 PM
I've thought about a dragon loli, but I'm a little hesitant because when I think about it the design just seems too 'fierce' for lolita.

I've thought of the whole "too fierce" as well, but I've found awesome ribbons that I could use, as well as fabrics. :bigtu:

Cat-Chan~
08-21-2006, 11:37 PM
I had wanted to do a Red Eyes Black Dragon loli...but I've put it on the back burner becuase it's out of my price range. I think a dragon could be done if it was planned out well.

SunakoChan
08-22-2006, 11:30 AM
I had wanted to do a Red Eyes Black Dragon loli...but I've put it on the back burner becuase it's out of my price range. I think a dragon could be done if it was planned out well.

I agree :) I won't be presenting it at any convention til the end of '07 or perhaps beginning of '08. I'll definitely take my time on doing the costume.

ragdollface
08-22-2006, 05:50 PM
That crown is adorable. How are you going to attatch it to your head, though? Ribbons?

I think pirate and ninja lolis would be such a cute team cosplay. I can see the skit now. Heheh. There was just a slappy fight in my brain.

I love the idea of storybook lolis. Red Riding Hood, Robin Hood, Bo Peep, Puss in Boots....I think they'd be very cute.

penny_dreadful
08-22-2006, 06:26 PM
Oh goodness, pirate loli vs. ninja loli slap fight. Okay, somebody has to do that and make a video because I NEED that to live.

The crown is getting fitted with combs that'll go into the wig. I might wind up actually stitching it directly to the wig, since honestly what else am I gonna use it for? It depends on how well the combs hold.

I'm working on a set of nails right now, too-- using acrylics to mold shapes on them, adding jewels and stuff. They look awesome so far, but I have to figure out how to drill a little hole in the acrylic nails so I can hang charms from them. Anyone have any ideas?

--Penny

Zevaluz
08-22-2006, 07:01 PM
They look awesome so far, but I have to figure out how to drill a little hole in the acrylic nails so I can hang charms from them. Anyone have any ideas?

--Penny

Beauty supply stores sometimes carry cheap little punchy tools just for that purpose. I used one of those when I wore acrylics/tips, it didn't cost more than I think $5.

If you're in a pinch, try wittling away with a pin (doesn't work on acrylic nails, but works on tips that you glue on your nails). That takes agges though =(

Edit: May want to try a low speed dremel with a very very tiny drill tip. Just have to go slow.

penny_dreadful
08-23-2006, 05:00 PM
Thanks, Zev! I did some searching last night and found a few places that sell the little punches-- now I just need to locate charms that are small enough. No way I'm paying $30 for a single gold charm to put on a nail that will probably break off by the end of the day anyway. Plus, they don't have any designs I want. Er... anyone know where to find inexpensive, very small octopus-shaped charms?

--PD

Zevaluz
08-23-2006, 06:15 PM
Er... anyone know where to find inexpensive, very small octopus-shaped charms?

!! Cthulhu !!

Hm - I'd look around jewelry supply houses for octopus findings. It may be tough to find one *small* enough though.

Have you thought about doing a small freeform shrinky dink and painting then shrinking it? That would also have the benefit of being super light as well.

penny_dreadful
08-23-2006, 06:26 PM
I just ordered a Precious Metal Clay kit, so now I'm thinking I'll sculpt the charms myself. They'll be sterling silver, but that's okay. I'm using the kit to make other jewelry for the costume, anyway. The shrinky-dink thing is a good idea, though-- it'll definitely be cheap and, like you said, very lightweight.

--Pen

Zevaluz
08-23-2006, 06:41 PM
I just ordered a Precious Metal Clay kit, so now I'm thinking I'll sculpt the charms myself. They'll be sterling silver, but that's okay. I'm using the kit to make other jewelry for the costume, anyway.

I'm very curious about PMC! I can't wait to see what you do with it =)

penny_dreadful
08-23-2006, 07:14 PM
Haha, me too. I've wanted to try it for so long, and now that the kit is on sale I figure, hey, why not? I'm very excited about it.

--PD

RiverofMirrors
08-24-2006, 05:18 PM
My friend and I are planning on doing black-and-white Mokona-themed lolis for a future con. A lot of lolita purists are like NOOOOOO THEMED LOLI IS BAD but I think it can be done well and be really cute if you remember to stick to the fashion rules of traditional lolita.

Some things just don't work with lolita though, like the Sub-Zero loli I saw somewhere. That was just...silly.

Serey-chan
08-24-2006, 06:19 PM
I think a Vash Loli would be cute... Qi-Loli style Vash Jacket with a frilly black skirt underneath and a Kuroneko-sama backpack... X3

Kaoruyogi
08-24-2006, 10:27 PM
Like sooooo many others I'm in an Alice in Wonderland group but we're SUPER gothing it out. Funny thing is that my name is Alice but I play both Alice and the Mad Hatter depending on the group. I was a Yakuza loli a couple years ago too. That's tons of fun! ^_^

Azira_No_Meikai
08-25-2006, 09:28 AM
Me and a friend are going to a pair Fruit Sweet-Loli outfits, Apple Loli and Cherry Loli. Kinda to help along the Manga we are makeing. ( and so i can take a picture with a death note cosplayer and hold a sign up that says 'Ryuks Sugar mama' )

xo_madhatter
08-28-2006, 12:34 AM
totally not original, but for drama club we go and scare kids at this farm for their october festival-stuff, and my friends and I are planning an Alice in Wonderland thing. I guess you couldn't count all of the outfits as EGL, but my Alice one will be, and the Door Mouse costume is too.

haru_sohma_lvr
08-28-2006, 02:30 PM
If I had 53 friends, I would totally do a whole Deck-of-cards-lolis

Riji
08-28-2006, 03:40 PM
If I had 53 friends, I would totally do a whole Deck-of-cards-lolis
That would be awesome to see. We must find you 53 friends. XD

haru_sohma_lvr
08-28-2006, 03:44 PM
Lawl, I wanna do it next year at Animenext...Let's get 53 friends!

Riji
08-28-2006, 03:52 PM
Lawl, I wanna do it next year at Animenext...Let's get 53 friends!
Alas, I can't make it to AN next year. :bigcry: But but the idea is still awesome and I'd love to see pictures.

haru_sohma_lvr
08-28-2006, 03:57 PM
I'll see if I can do it...it's gonna be hell to pull off...

penny_dreadful
08-28-2006, 06:02 PM
Mmm, I know there've been big Pokemon groups, and I think someone was trying to pull together a group of Clow Card cosplayers from Cardcaptor Sakura, but I don't know how that worked out. Deck of cards would be cool if you could conceivably pull enough people together, but I don't know if 53 people would be willing to go through the expense and labor of putting together a whole outfit for their particular suit, AND be able to show up at the same place at the same time.

It's a nice thought, though.

As to the whole "theme lolis are bad and inauthentic and no" arguement, I've seen theme loli contests on Lolita Snap, so I don't even wanna hear about that.

--PD

haru_sohma_lvr
08-29-2006, 05:02 PM
I might just get 5 and we can have 4 suits and 2 jokers

Cat-Chan~
08-30-2006, 05:03 AM
I just finished a new costume to debute at Afest
GL Ichigo Kurosaki
I'm curious to see the reaction to an acctual human character adapted to the lolita style...so far I've only done well...an animal and a robot...but Gir is kind of in a class all his own
D:

Hopefully I'll have some pictures next week.

I also my be doing a Uuchia Sasuke Loli for Onicon as part of a Naruto loli group. Either him or Kiba...I haven't decided yet.

penny_dreadful
08-30-2006, 08:14 PM
Your theme lolis are always so cute, Cat-Chan-- can't wait to see how the GL Strawberry came out!

--PD

Cat-Chan~
09-08-2006, 11:56 PM
So far this is the only picture I've found of Ichi online
I haven't really had a chance to look though
D:

http://images.cosplay.com/showphoto.php?photo=830724

I'll post a few more when I get mine uploaded.

I am happy to report that I did take a judges award in the cosplay contest. I guess GL Ichigo was a success
(:

I've also inspired some other people to do GL bleach characters. We should be wearing them to A-kon.

Malicious
09-11-2006, 10:48 PM
http://shop.trashy.com/index.php?s=bycatalog&id=9&sh=1&page=2&offset=16
these costumes are so cute!! but so expensive... some look like they can be bo peep and pirate lolitas...

Jia Jem
09-16-2006, 01:15 PM
I love the deck of cards idea! That would be pretty intimidating to see such cuteness marching down a convention hallway!

Recently my friend and I did some candy-colored wa-lolitas:
http://images.cosplay.com/showphoto.php?photo=781501

And also, a few years ago, we did EGL cockroaches. I guess we were just a little tired of butterfly princesses and cute ladybugs... and honestly, with goths being creatures of darkness... cockroaches kind of make sense, ne? :P
http://images.cosplay.com/showphoto.php?photo=249885

lolita*neko
09-16-2006, 10:57 PM
http://shop.trashy.com/index.php?s=bycatalog&id=9&sh=1&page=2&offset=16
these costumes are so cute!! but so expensive... some look like they can be bo peep and pirate lolitas...


...I don't mean to be rude, but none of those outfits are lolita... they are are way too unmodest to be consitered lolita...
Just wanted to throw that out there. ^^;;

But yeah, staying on topic, I don't know about themed lolita when your taking a charater and turning them into a lolita or whatever... it just seems wrong... XD I've yet to see a un-loli anime/game/whatever char. lolita outfit done well, you know, that actually looks like they could pass as a normal lolita outfit. They all look to costumey, and everything lolita isn't suppose to be/look like.
I'm sure there are others that feel the same way... but if you don't please don't flame me - I'm honestly not trying to be rude. XD

Ashurachan
09-17-2006, 04:31 AM
But yeah, staying on topic, I don't know about themed lolita when your taking a charater and turning them into a lolita or whatever... it just seems wrong... XD I've yet to see a un-loli anime/game/whatever char. lolita outfit done well, you know, that actually looks like they could pass as a normal lolita outfit. They all look to costumey, and everything lolita isn't suppose to be/look like.

I think it's hard to pull off nicely - it requires a very careful design, and to be based on something that's not too costumey to begin with, and yet recognizable. For example, I think it's easier to "lolify" a Naruto costume, than say, a FFX-2 outfit, because the characters in Naruto wear things that look like real clothes, to begin with, while the FFX-2 designs are pretty much... alien.
But well, I think that a little costumey does not annoy me that much, since I only wear my lolis at cons or such, and certainly not everyday at work (I already get enough comments on the fact I only dress in black... not goth, just standard clothes that happen to be black ; I can only imagine what it would be if I was wearing EGL on any other day than Mardi-Gras or Halloween).
On the other hand, what I don't really like is when people claim they're cosplaying a lolita variation of a character, and the character is not recognizable.

penny_dreadful
09-18-2006, 06:58 PM
But yeah, staying on topic, I don't know about themed lolita when your taking a charater and turning them into a lolita or whatever... it just seems wrong... XD I've yet to see a un-loli anime/game/whatever char. lolita outfit done well, you know, that actually looks like they could pass as a normal lolita outfit. They all look to costumey, and everything lolita isn't suppose to be/look like.
I'm sure there are others that feel the same way... but if you don't please don't flame me - I'm honestly not trying to be rude. XD

1. I am taking pains to base my own theme loli design on legitimate lolita fashions-- the only touch I'm adding is the tentacles around the waist. Other than that, it is a perfectly passable lolita dress that happens to be bright green.

2. Mine IS a costume. I know hardcore lolitas out there balk about using lolita fashion in costume design, but it's gonna happen sooner or later and you may as well get used to it. I'm not wearing it out on the streets, I'm wearing it as a costume to a convention. Not that my wa-loli outfit is any great shakes, as it's still incomplete and still lacking a proper obi, but to use that as an example it's meant to be something I would, conceivably, wear to a party or even to go window-shopping. I know it's not good loli, but it's my loli, dammit, and I'm giving myself plenty of room to improve.

I know you weren't targeting me, Lolita Neko. I just wanted to point out that some of us, whether it's approved of by other lolitas or not, do use lolita in our costume designs, and some of us do try to stay true to that design ethic, even though it's sometimes difficult to translate. Don't worry, no flames, we're all entitled to our opinions.

--Penny

Malicious
09-18-2006, 10:32 PM
...I don't mean to be rude, but none of those outfits are lolita... they are are way too unmodest to be consitered lolita...
Just wanted to throw that out there. ^^;;

http://shop.trashy.com/index.php?s=product&set_id=7831
you don't think something like this with some alterations and maybe an undershirt wouldn't not be considered lolita?:confused: :confused: :confused:
just because the models in these costumes reveal too much doesn't mean we can take ideas from them to make theme lolitas too

Kaijugal
09-19-2006, 12:45 PM
I enjoy seeing theme lolitas when they're well made. I like to see people having fun with thier take on a style. But people here should be forwarned that you will no doubt be harassed by some people for your choices and will no doubt attract the attention of self appointed Lolita Fashion Police.

My "pumpkin loli" costume has recently offended some self important lifestylers and EGL Fashionista police over at another forum, (who were kind enough to post my picture to mock my costume and comment on how ugly I am much to my amusement). ^_^

I think it's very sad that they are also tearing apart girls who were no doubt very happy and proud of thier costumes, and who may be less resistant to the highschool style slings and arrows of such a group.

So just a fair warning, have fun with your creativity, enjoy your own style, be bold, but if you are shy, Beware of the Trollitas. :rolleyes:

Amaya De'Morte
09-19-2006, 08:26 PM
http://shop.trashy.com/index.php?s=product&set_id=7831
you don't think something like this with some alterations and maybe an undershirt wouldn't not be considered lolita?:confused: :confused: :confused:
just because the models in these costumes reveal too much doesn't mean we can take ideas from them to make theme lolitas too

while I'm not against any sort of theme lolitas (I love them) those up there, while cute little costumes, don't fall under the general lolita catagory. With some work, they could perhaps be ero-lolita, but some people don't really consider that a part of the fashion, just the fetish portion of it. (Like regular gothic clothing, then fetish gothic.)

And- there's nothing wrong with Theme lolita in my own opinion. People take day to day clothing and turn it into a costume basis as well, so if someone takes general lolita style, and turns it into a costume, then what's the difference? In a world where you can see every variety of costume out there, one nicely done theme lolita isn't going to kill anyone. In fact, in retrospect, a badly done one doesn't either. In the end, it's their clothing and their choice.

There's a whole catagory for the costumey lolitas, and while some bash them, others see if for exactly what it is- costume lolita.

AmazonPrincess
09-21-2006, 02:03 AM
Getting back to the subject of themed lolitas, I see so much Alice in Wonderland stuff, but the Wizard of Oz gets no love. :-(

I think lolita versions of Dorothy, the Scarecrow, Tin-Man and the Cowardly Lion would be super cute.

penny_dreadful
09-21-2006, 04:55 PM
Dorothy's costume is halfway to sweet lolita, anyway. It'd need minimal tweaking, I'd think, but would definitely look super-cute accompanied by lolita versions of her friends.

--PD

penny_dreadful
05-09-2007, 01:18 PM
I'm pulling up this thread because I need some input: I'm planning on going to a Storybook Lolita Photoshoot later this month, and I'm trying to put together my outfit with minimal cost and time. I signed up to do a female version of Peter Pan, and I was thinking I'd take up my Cthulhu skirt (http://images.cosplay.com/showphoto.php?photo=1049634) a few inches, then add a puff-sleeved white blouse with a Peter Pan collar (natch) trimmed in eyelet, plus a jumper-style top in the same fabric as the skirt with more ric-rac trim. I'd also probably make a little Peter Pan cap out of felt-- you know, one of these dealies (http://www.halloweenexpress.com/peter-pan-elf-hat-p-4779.html) only smaller, and I have a pair of pearly green ballet flats to wear with it.

Does anyone have any suggestions on how I could enhance, improve, or otherwise alter the costume to be more Peter Pan-ish, maybe throwing in something to do with Tinkerbell or something like that? Remember, I don't really have the time or the budget to start completely from scratch, but I'd like it to be a decent-looking themed loli.

Thanks in advance!

PS, it's REALLY hard to find blouses with Peter Pan collars in adult sizes, but I found a site that sells uniforms and the uniform for Marian college happens to have those blouses. It's like $15, too.

--Penny

ningyobaka
05-09-2007, 05:57 PM
penny i'll love you even more if you get that done and post pictures. i love peter pan. and a mini pan hat would be totally awesome!

ArchFaith
05-09-2007, 07:53 PM
I believe I posted on this thread a loooong time ago talking about Star Wars-ified lolita....well, I finally did it!

http://images.cosplay.com/showphoto.php?photo=1019184

Note that this really isn't a serious lolita attempt...I'll be wearing it to Star Wars celebration IV later this month, and I wanted to wear a lolita outfit to it...

ningyobaka
05-09-2007, 08:31 PM
loves the skirt, archfaith. classic is oh so better than the new ones.

aliceaddict
05-10-2007, 03:15 PM
99% of the time it looks terrible.
i think the only good "theme" lolitas are those that take a costume that already has a lolita-ish look/feel and just take it all the way lolita
example: alice in wonderland, dorothy from wizard of oz, little red riding hood, etc

penny_dreadful
05-10-2007, 03:57 PM
99% of the time it looks terrible.
i think the only good "theme" lolitas are those that take a costume that already has a lolita-ish look/feel and just take it all the way lolita
example: alice in wonderland, dorothy from wizard of oz, little red riding hood, etc

Okay, not exactly the constructive advice I was looking for...

--Penny

aliceaddict
05-10-2007, 03:58 PM
it's just awkward. lolita is supposed to be more elegant than Pikachu

penny_dreadful
05-10-2007, 04:46 PM
Well, tough. I'm doing it anyway, and there's a whole group of people doing it (who, coincidentally, claimed Alice, Dorothy, and Red before I got there). Now, if anyone has any useful advice here, great. If not, I'm perfectly happy winging it.

Besides, this (http://crazyfoxdesigns.com/glb42.jpg) does not say "elegant" to me. This says a picnic table full of cupcakes exploded, etc.

--Penny

Neko_Chan
05-10-2007, 05:41 PM
Well, tough. I'm doing it anyway, and there's a whole group of people doing it (who, coincidentally, claimed Alice, Dorothy, and Red before I got there). Now, if anyone has any useful advice here, great. If not, I'm perfectly happy winging it.

Besides, this (http://crazyfoxdesigns.com/glb42.jpg) does not say "elegant" to me. This says a picnic table full of cupcakes exploded, etc.

--Penny

You have obviously not seen Angelic Pretty's clothing. :/

That's very cute. It's Country lolita, and it's also rather old.

Miyabi-
05-10-2007, 06:21 PM
Long time lurker, first time poster:
I think theme lolitas are adorable. ^_^ and creative.(I *love* your Cthulolita, Penny!) I'd love to make one myself..I love lolita style, but just judging from the people posting in here I think I'd get pretty sick of some LolEtist's attitudes.

And here I thought high school was over with...*tsks*~_^

penny_dreadful
05-10-2007, 06:36 PM
Long time lurker, first time poster:
I think theme lolitas are adorable. ^_^ and creative.(I *love* your Cthulolita, Penny!) I'd love to make one myself..I love lolita style, but just judging from the people posting in here I think I'd get pretty sick of some LolEtist's attitudes.

And here I thought high school was over with...*tsks*~_^

Welcome to the obsession, KM. Bear in mind that for some people it actually is still high school, and for others high school apparently never ends. I think it puts lots of people off even going near anything lolita, but I know you are a brave person and I also know that you could kick some ass in a loli outfit because you are adorable and talented.

But seriously, as stupid as this whole scene is, it's very addictive. I never thought I'd even wear anything that could be labelled lolita, and now I have like three outfits.

--Penny

ChibiBritt
05-10-2007, 08:04 PM
I have learned that there are some people on these forums who tend get a lil crazy about things.

I have done themed lolita in the past and had a lot of fun. I'm currently working on a new themed lolita for (hopefully) A-Kon. It's Gundam Lolita...to go with the mecha theme for the con.

I'm sure I'll get slammed for it. But you know what? Who cares. I'm going to make it and I'm going to have fun wearing it. Because that is what cosplay is all about...enjoying whatever outfit you have and showing it off.

So I say go for it! And I can't wait to see the pictures ^_^

noire hime
05-10-2007, 09:17 PM
I love love love themed lolis! <3
I have several planned for myself:
SH Nurse / Guro loli
Dorothy (Big O) loli
Aloha loli
Green Day loli
Midwich Cuckoo loli (appropriate, yes?)

And then there are my Aristo / Madam ideas.

I agree with Mlle. Dreadful, that outfit looks very thrown together. Not elegant in the least.

Neko_Chan
05-10-2007, 09:32 PM
I think it can work. I think that Alice in Wonderland, and other fairy tales can be loli-fied. I just haven't seen alot of them to convience me that themed loli = 100 % good.

But I really despise "random anime character - Lolita" Unless the character's costume has lolita elements already about it, it dosn't seem to fit. Ex. Ninja lolita? Prolly not.

ningyobaka
05-10-2007, 09:33 PM
(placed towards the elitist comments posted here in this thread and others)

lol i love alice and neko_chan, the self proclaimed elitists and dubbed elitists. they are so "scary" my boyfriend is to scared to even lurk the egl forums and he loves lolita.

though it is unentional i thank both of you for the awesome laughs. (most off the board)

i will say though that some overbearing elitist in any hobby do scare people away from the hobbies they are into, but sometimes they just make others more determined to show people how cool/good the hobby is and not all are that way. so just find those people and it's all good.

(not meant towards alice and neko_chan, the last paragraph cause you guys are awesome and helpful in your determination for perfection.)

also penny that pic you posted, the girl in the dress i agree scary. the doll in that same dress she was holding i loved. maybe i'm just crazy but she reminded me of a cosplay of one of those cupcake dolls they had in the 80's. where you flipped the skirt up and the doll was in a cupcake and you flipped it down and it became the skirt of her dress.

Miyabi-
05-10-2007, 09:40 PM
haha! Yeah...I already have a bunch of accessories I've dabbled with and I found a terrific pair of shoes that are shaped similar to the rocking horse shoes (without the monster bottom though...I can't walk well in heels)
I just need to decide on what style I'd go with. All I know is I really want something in purple and black. ^_^

ArchFaith
05-11-2007, 01:20 AM
In my own little opinion, theme lolis can work....sometimes. Although I've given up on trying to please anyone but myself lately.

In the end, do what makes you happy! You might get some slack for it, but hey, that's what life's about.

viiictoria
05-11-2007, 01:25 AM
http://shop.trashy.com/index.php?s=product&set_id=7831
you don't think something like this with some alterations and maybe an undershirt wouldn't not be considered lolita?:confused: :confused: :confused:
just because the models in these costumes reveal too much doesn't mean we can take ideas from them to make theme lolitas too

Notice how high it hits on her thigh and the deep cleavage, even with a blouse under it, this would just be too sexy thus defeating the point.

I agree in that most of the time is looks goofy, unless it's a theme that translates well, like Alice and others that have been mentioned.

While I do understand the appeal for someone who doesn't really wear lolita, to me it's of weird. For me lolita is everyday clothing, so it'd be like making a pikachu themed tee and jeans. Which just seemed half assed and weird, kind of see the connection?

penny_dreadful
05-11-2007, 10:56 AM
Getting back to the issue at hand, I asked for advice on HOW I should do a Peter Pan-themed lolita, not WHETHER OR NOT I should do it.

So, attached is a sketch of what I'm planning. (Note, I did this on computer paper with a ballpoint pen and markers about two minutes ago; I'm anticipating the final product will look a lot less melted.) Yes, no? Acceptable, needs work? Plz advise. K thx.

--Penny

accelagirl
05-11-2007, 11:01 AM
Wow, this thread is old. Popping in again to throw in my 2 cents. I kind of have to agree that most "theme" lolita outfits just don't work -- especially cosplay themed ones.

Even if they're well made and replicate a brand pattern... something about anime characters gone lolita just screams inherently tacky. It's probably just the idea that makes it bad from the get-go.

I can also chime in some non-lolitist point of view - my friends, who are not remotely connected to lolita past being friends with some lolita, always love mocking "EGL themed" cosplay (and they're not normally mean people).

Of course, it always depends on what the theme is. General themes, like Holidays or Cultures, can look very nice. Military, sailor, pirate, etc themed lolita things we all know look fine.

Mr. Puff
05-11-2007, 12:00 PM
Getting back to the issue at hand, I asked for advice on HOW I should do a Peter Pan-themed lolita, not WHETHER OR NOT I should do it.

So, attached is a sketch of what I'm planning. (Note, I did this on computer paper with a ballpoint pen and markers about two minutes ago; I'm anticipating the final product will look a lot less melted.) Yes, no? Acceptable, needs work? Plz advise. K thx.

--Penny


A bit plain for my taste (could use a few nice accenting details, but I don't know your sewing level), but It's fine. You can only take a wrong turn now at your fabric selection. Please choose wisely and remember 100% cotton is your best friend.

-Mr. Puff

Meiki
05-11-2007, 12:10 PM
That looks really cute! A little plain though, maybe add a bow on the sash? Or some cute little pockets would be good :D

noire hime
05-11-2007, 01:09 PM
Getting back to the issue at hand, I asked for advice on HOW I should do a Peter Pan-themed lolita, not WHETHER OR NOT I should do it.

So, attached is a sketch of what I'm planning. (Note, I did this on computer paper with a ballpoint pen and markers about two minutes ago; I'm anticipating the final product will look a lot less melted.) Yes, no? Acceptable, needs work? Plz advise. K thx.

--Penny

That looks really nice, Penny! Lace or ruffles (I think eyelet would suit this costume the best) on the hem of the skirt and you've got the perfect Pan loli. What are you planning for the back of the dress?

penny_dreadful
05-11-2007, 02:52 PM
A bit plain for my taste (could use a few nice accenting details, but I don't know your sewing level), but It's fine. You can only take a wrong turn now at your fabric selection. Please choose wisely and remember 100% cotton is your best friend.

-Mr. Puff

It is 100% cotton; it's a picot which is actually a nice texture and sheen that photographs, in my opinion, quite nicely.

I'm terrible at doing ruffles which is why I wanted to avoid them; I didn't want to mangle the skirt. If I can find a decent pre-ruffled cotton eyelet of an acceptable size I could always dye it to match, and I know I'm adding small white eyelet trim to the blouse. Then I'll get some big green buttons to put on the straps of the jumper. At the waist will be a green cotton sash which I do think I'll add a bow to. I have a pattern for the top which is princess-seamed, and I assume I'll have to add in some darts for my shape, so hopefully that doesn't turn out too disastrous. Is there a good way to close it in the back-- just a zipper, or buttons? I'm afraid a lace-up back is going to look a little cheap on me, although it's the easiest option.

Thanks for the input, guys. I am sufficiently ameliorated.

--Penny

viiictoria
05-11-2007, 03:51 PM
It is 100% cotton; it's a picot which is actually a nice texture and sheen that photographs, in my opinion, quite nicely.

I'm terrible at doing ruffles which is why I wanted to avoid them; I didn't want to mangle the skirt. If I can find a decent pre-ruffled cotton eyelet of an acceptable size I could always dye it to match, and I know I'm adding small white eyelet trim to the blouse. Then I'll get some big green buttons to put on the straps of the jumper. At the waist will be a green cotton sash which I do think I'll add a bow to. I have a pattern for the top which is princess-seamed, and I assume I'll have to add in some darts for my shape, so hopefully that doesn't turn out too disastrous. Is there a good way to close it in the back-- just a zipper, or buttons? I'm afraid a lace-up back is going to look a little cheap on me, although it's the easiest option.

Thanks for the input, guys. I am sufficiently ameliorated.

--Penny


Just my two cents, but I don't really think it would be necessary to dye the lace green. It would be really hard to get the exact color, and you don't really see green lace in lolita... ever. You should probably just leave it white.

Also, I would ditch the buttons because again, you just don't see buttons in lolita for a reason. It just kind of teeters into the whole "little big girl" icky thing and, that =/= lolita. I would maybe think about bows instead.

penny_dreadful
05-11-2007, 04:09 PM
Just my two cents, but I don't really think it would be necessary to dye the lace green. It would be really hard to get the exact color, and you don't really see green lace in lolita... ever. You should probably just leave it white.

Also, I would ditch the buttons because again, you just don't see buttons in lolita for a reason. It just kind of teeters into the whole "little big girl" icky thing and, that =/= lolita. I would maybe think about bows instead.

I thought half the point of lolita was that it was grown women wearing clothing inspired by children, but I'll leave this alone. But bows are a good idea, and easier for me to do than buttons. I can make them out of the same fabric as the sash.

For some reason the idea of using white eyelet irks me. I think if it were white I'd have to switch from eyelet to another type of lace, which I really don't want to do because eyelet just seems more appropriate, but I do see your point. While I'd attempt to do a ruffle out of the same fabric, which would look much better anyway, I may wind up not having enough leftovers on hand, and it would be hard if not impossible for me to come by more.

What if I were to use white lace but dye the blouse a complementary shade of green? I suppose my biggest issue is having the white lace against a white blouse, which to me doesn't create enough contrast.

EDIT: I did find this (http://www.laceforless.com/cgi-bin/store/commerce.cgi?product=Ruffled&keywords=&next=4)-- the first selection the page. What about that in emerald ribbon and white lace? I'm not crazy about it, but it's kind of a compromise.

--Penny

lolita*neko
05-11-2007, 04:16 PM
So, attached is a sketch of what I'm planning. (Note, I did this on computer paper with a ballpoint pen and markers about two minutes ago; I'm anticipating the final product will look a lot less melted.) Yes, no? Acceptable, needs work? Plz advise. K thx.

The only thing I have a problem with is the ric-rack. But that may be mainly because I hate ric-rack itself. XD But other than that its cute. I could maybe see white lace with green ribbon going through it (forgot the name of it - I'm not too big on lace) But I'm not really sure. I'm more of a ruffle girl. ^_^


Wow, this thread is old. Popping in again to throw in my 2 cents. I kind of have to agree that most "theme" lolita outfits just don't work -- especially cosplay themed ones.

Even if they're well made and replicate a brand pattern... something about anime characters gone lolita just screams inherently tacky. It's probably just the idea that makes it bad from the get-go.

I can also chime in some non-lolitist point of view - my friends, who are not remotely connected to lolita past being friends with some lolita, always love mocking "EGL themed" cosplay (and they're not normally mean people).

Of course, it always depends on what the theme is. General themes, like Holidays or Cultures, can look very nice. Military, sailor, pirate, etc themed lolita things we all know look fine.

IAWTC. I just kinda think that sometimes themed lolita (like for a anime/game character) are mostly done by fans that were hanging out with their friends looking at that partiular game or anime and thought to themself 'omg! it would be so funny to dress-up him/her up in lolita, don't you think?!' and they don't really even know that much about they style in the first place and it ends up sucking bad. Maybe it looked awesome to you on paper but didn't translate well irl. I'm totally not saying it always ends up this way but it does sometimes, you have to admit.

In the end I feel like if you want to do themed lolita you have to work extra hard to make it work and if you don't and it ends up looking sloppy and thrown together. When 'elitists' point that out don't get your bloomers in a bunch. Its probly not just the fact that its themed that makes it bad but just the way you went through with the whole idea which is one of the main problems I have with themed lolita. But to each its own.

viiictoria
05-11-2007, 04:26 PM
I thought half the point of lolita was that it was grown women wearing clothing inspired by children, but I'll leave this alone. But bows are a good idea, and easier for me to do than buttons. I can make them out of the same fabric as the sash.

For some reason the idea of using white eyelet irks me. I think if it were white I'd have to switch from eyelet to another type of lace, which I really don't want to do because eyelet just seems more appropriate, but I do see your point. While I'd attempt to do a ruffle out of the same fabric, which would look much better anyway, I may wind up not having enough leftovers on hand, and it would be hard if not impossible for me to come by more.

What if I were to use white lace but dye the blouse a complementary shade of green? I suppose my biggest issue is having the white lace against a white blouse, which to me doesn't create enough contrast.

EDIT: I did find this (http://www.laceforless.com/cgi-bin/store/commerce.cgi?product=Ruffled&keywords=&next=4)-- the first selection the page. What about that in emerald ribbon and white lace? I'm not crazy about it, but it's kind of a compromise.

--Penny

Well, you may think that's the point but it doesn't seem like you wear lolita so... ? To me it's all about being as cute as possible. ANYWAY

I don't know... call me a elitist or whatever but if your giong to try and get away with a green blouse I think it will just cheapen it and look costumy. Again, I wear lolita daily so for me it's not a costume. That lace that you picked out looks really tacky and plastic. Please don't use it ;___;

The above poster mentioned lace weaved with ribbon, it's called "ladder lace", and I think it would be a good comprimise for you. They actually have some really nice crocheted ladder lace at jo anne's right now, you should go check it out.

penny_dreadful
05-11-2007, 05:11 PM
I agree, the lace is pretty ugly. I was thinking about the beading lace, and I may give that a shot since I can put my own ribbon in. I'm still not sure how a colored blouse versus a white blouse looks "cheap" or "costumey" since it's theoretically an item you could wear every day but I'll go with it since I don't particularly care to dye when I can avoid it. If I could find white eyelet EDGED in green I'd flip (I swear I have seen this in the past), but I doubt I'll be so lucky as to come up with that.

For the record, I do have loli items and I do not wear them every day because I am a professional woman and have other clothes I find more comfortable and reasonable for regular wear, but I will occasionally go out in skirts and pettis and/or blouses on weekends or what have you. Therefore I'm one of those rarities who believes loli can be used as both regular clothing and costume.

--PD

*Le*
05-11-2007, 08:58 PM
well...my opinion on themed loli generally is like most of the other lolis. its tacky. and costume-y. however i think its fine for a con or some other costume wearing event....but not to actually walk around like that O.o unless like it was said it translates nicely (red hood, alice etc.)

i think Peter Pan loli is AWSOME! jesus....i want to do that.

so to Penny, it would be really cool if you made the dress not neon green (as an the actual color peter pan wears and such) but more of a pastel green, cos it translates better to loli, like this kind

http://www.angelicpretty.com/shopping/jsk/72j-2242/mnt.jpg

the hat is a totally cute idea i think....though im not sure how it would actually look in person...id have to see it.

i also the think the buttons look wierd...maybe you should add some bows instead. and the other day while at "Michaels:the arts and crafts store" i found some really cute tiny tinker bell (sp?) pins. adding those in the middle on the bows would be kinda cute (if not tink im almost sure you can find the same pins with peter on it)

and adding some peter pan (or tink) apliques to the skirt would be pretty cool too. maybe you can screen print peter's shape/shadow to the hem of the dress...or perhaps one to the side of it?


good luck on your project!

yamibakura03
05-12-2007, 12:24 AM
I have learned that there are some people on these forums who tend get a lil crazy about things.

I have done themed lolita in the past and had a lot of fun. I'm currently working on a new themed lolita for (hopefully) A-Kon. It's Gundam Lolita...to go with the mecha theme for the con.

I'm sure I'll get slammed for it. But you know what? Who cares. I'm going to make it and I'm going to have fun wearing it. Because that is what cosplay is all about...enjoying whatever outfit you have and showing it off.

So I say go for it! And I can't wait to see the pictures ^_^


you will be awesome. i need to met you at Akon, and im making a Wa-loli outfit for Marik from Yugioh . so no wories i dont care if i get slack its only having fun and im not planning to wear it all the time.

Devi 1313
05-12-2007, 01:19 AM
All I can say here is OF COURSE themed lolita is supposed to look costume-y. That's because it is! Do you think Penny plans on wearing her Cthulu-lolita or Peter Pan-lolita outfit every day? Of course not.

I can see how you can be offended by people dressing lolita as a costume. I get a little uppity when I see people dressed as goths or punks at Halloween, but it's just clothes!

I think themed loli's are very cute and original if done right, y'know, not too much ribbon or lace if it doesn't need it. I plan on making my own of Etna someday.

I think it's interesting that people get upset about loli versions of characters, but nobody really cares about a pimped out Mario and a booty-liscious Princess Peach.

Rally_PChan
05-12-2007, 05:23 AM
Getting back to the issue at hand, I asked for advice on HOW I should do a Peter Pan-themed lolita, not WHETHER OR NOT I should do it.

So, attached is a sketch of what I'm planning. (Note, I did this on computer paper with a ballpoint pen and markers about two minutes ago; I'm anticipating the final product will look a lot less melted.) Yes, no? Acceptable, needs work? Plz advise. K thx.

--Penny

It's cute...but very plain.

To me, Lolita is all about the details and how it comes together.

You don't want to do ruffles? Well... in the doll community I'm in we say "If you're not willing to pay $300+ for a doll then you're in the wrong hobby."

You're telling the others "Well tough I'm going to do it", that's fine. Green is an uncommon color among all the blacks and whites. Go for it. And why not buttons? If you can make it all unique and nicely done, you can show them to prove them wrong. (Though if you don't want to use buttons, I believe zippers are used in the back, but I would think buttons with bows would be cute).

Also, I think more layers are good too.



As for lolita themes. Alice is pretty popular, and perhaps overdone. I still enjoy it, but I do get tired of seeing yet another Alice lolita dress.

penny_dreadful
05-12-2007, 12:27 PM
Yes, I have to stress that as this is COSPLAY.COM and I am wearing it to a photoshoot, this is a COSTUME PIECE and not actual clothes (although I have worn the skirt out and about with different tops). While I do not claim to be an expert, hence my asking for advice, I am familiar with all the major loli brands (and some of the minor ones) and, contrary to popular belief, can tell the difference between street clothes, formal clothes, and costumery.

Rally_PChan, I am not opposed to ruffles entirely (in fact, I just bought a rather ruffly blouse), it's just that I look fairly ridiculous in too many of them. Loli in and of itself is a fairly lighthearted style, but I'd prefer that my outfits are as flattering to my form as can be, given the demands of the fashion.

I think at this point I'm going to add some eyelet beading lace to the hem of the skirt and the straps of the top, as well as some plain eyelet lace to the collar and sleeves of the blouse. Bows do seem cuter to me than buttons (although buttons probably go better with the ric-rac). I am using a skirt I already have made and just modifying it a bit, so the ric-rac has to stay. It may not be everyone's taste, but I'm sure there are plenty of things you wear that I wouldn't be caught dead in, either. :P

*Le*, I'm heading to Michael's and Jo-Fab today to pick up some supplies so I'll look for those pins while I'm there; they sound adorable! Plus they're removable, which is a bonus. I've been playing with the felt to see if I can shape a hat without sewing, but at this point it looks like I'll have to put some seams in somewhere-- unless I can find a hat pattern at the fabric store that I can just scale down. Well, we'll see what happens. It's starting to come together.

--Penny

Snowe
05-12-2007, 01:05 PM
umm...you were all talking about a ninja-loli in the beginning of the thread, and I thought of this character:
http://www.rpgfan.com/pics/fft/art-14.jpg
I was thinking she looks kinda pretty.
Sorry if I'm unwantedly digging up old topics, gomen nasai...
And, maybe I should have brought my Male Lolita question here...

Rally_PChan
05-12-2007, 06:52 PM
Lol, alright. Good luck then, Penny.

ningyobaka
05-13-2007, 02:27 AM
i think i got over my head. and i'm scared for once in my life, of what has come about from a few placed sentences i shouldn't have ever let slip out.

ok themed loli idea (please don't kill me i'm all ready terrified): ryuk apple motif loli from death note.

i really am not quite sure, completey, how this idea came about in his head or mine. i really didn't think he'd take this one. he hates orginal costumes for characters, he's iffy on drag, and ryuk is his favorite chatacter and death note his favorite series. the only thing that makes sense is the lolita part, since he loves it, and he won't do dandy and aristocrat doesn't work with my lolitas to well.

so basicly i'm making this for him i think. (the dress, he's gonna be using his mask he's making for his traditional ryuk costume.) and i need and willing to take any help anyone can give me. (accept convinceing him not to do this cause i don't think that's gonna work) cause if i don't get it, this is going to turn out scarier than what i already have in my head. which i'm pretty sure is gonna give me nightmares for a while. T_T

so basicly what i have at this moment to go off of from him is apples, and lolita. so i'm thinking sweet or country loli, with red and white as the colors. from there i have not much a clue, cause it has to work with his mask, and the hair that's embedded in the laytex mask, which is gonna be dark coarse yak hair.

i'm gonna be hunting down sweet and country lolita pics tonight for inspiration and examples to work from on this, as well as ryuk pics. and i hoping if you guys don't mind, penny, alice, neko_chan, since i value your guys opinions the most on this board can i pm you guys specificly, for advice and help, and with the ideas i get on how to approach this please. and thanks.


p.s. penny as soon as that hat is done post pics please. :)

Neko_Chan
05-13-2007, 01:28 PM
Hmm. I've never seen apples in country lolita I think. mostly it's strawberries, cherrys and small flowers like daisys.
Country lolita's patterns tend to be a little loud/busy at times with several colors and patterns all at the same time. Gingham check is really popular in country lolita and it comes in alot of variations that you can use.

Fabric I found with apple print:
http://hartsfabric.stores.yahoo.net/33916.html
http://hartsfabric.stores.yahoo.net/33917.html

BTSSB Country lolita items to take inspiration from:
Bags:
http://www.babyssb.co.jp/shopping/shoes/131902.html
http://www.babyssb.co.jp/shopping/shoes/131901.html
http://www.babyssb.co.jp/shopping/shoes/130958.html
http://www.babyssb.co.jp/shopping/shoes/130959.html

Jumpers:
http://www.babyssb.co.jp/shopping/jumper/131223.html
http://www.babyssb.co.jp/shopping/jumper/131217.html

Onepeices:
http://www.babyssb.co.jp/shopping/onepiece/131315.html
http://www.babyssb.co.jp/shopping/onepiece/131316.html

From Lolita_handbook's definition of Country Lolita:
"A subset of sweet style, with little straw hats and dresses in gingham, floral, and fruit patterns. Basically you look like a sweet lolita out for a picnic, so it is not uncommon to tote around a wicker basket or parasol. The print of the dress and the straw hat accessory are really the only thing that distinguishes it from sweet loli, and often the two are grouped together."

Scans from the Gothic & Lolita Bible of Country lolita:
http://www.avantgauche.co.uk/glb9/5.jpg
http://www.avantgauche.co.uk/glb13/4.jpg
http://www.avantgauche.co.uk/glb5/glb58.jpg
http://www.avantgauche.co.uk/glb8/8.jpg
http://www.avantgauche.co.uk/Kera/0805/S23.jpg
http://www.avantgauche.co.uk/Kera/0805/S35.jpg

Sethimothy
05-13-2007, 04:37 PM
ok themed loli idea (please don't kill me i'm all ready terrified): ryuk apple motif loli from death note.

Why would you be terrified simply because of what is at best an unorthodox and at worst a hideously retarded idea for an original (bastardization) cosplay?

How do you intend to turn this character (http://www.blogskins.com/screenshot/118233) into something lolita styled and wearing a dress? It defies all logic. O_o;;;

ningyobaka
05-13-2007, 10:29 PM
thank you neko_chan, your wonderful, book marking all links now.

sethimothly, well when he said it, i got the impression it would be his ryuk mask, with a lolita dress, not a lolita version of his costume, (thank god for small miracles) after talking to him agian, his idea is based more so on edward scissor hands, which would be the lolita dress over the black outfit the character wears. and i'm going to fight that tooth and nail if it doesn't look atleast ok.

and the whole idea still scares me. like the joke of it in my head is ha ha, but the visual, not so much it's like, omg i've created a monster.

ChibiBritt
05-13-2007, 11:56 PM
you will be awesome. i need to met you at Akon, and im making a Wa-loli outfit for Marik from Yugioh . so no wories i dont care if i get slack its only having fun and im not planning to wear it all the time.

I'm just hoping to have it ready in time. I'm rather short on extra funds this month so I'm not sure if it will be 100% by A-Kon. If anything I'll make sure to have it by AnimeFEST. I have a partner in crime whose also doing Gundam Loli and I believe she will be completely ready come A-Kon.

ningyobaka
05-14-2007, 07:25 AM
I'm just hoping to have it ready in time. I'm rather short on extra funds this month so I'm not sure if it will be 100% by A-Kon. If anything I'll make sure to have it by AnimeFEST. I have a partner in crime whose also doing Gundam Loli and I believe she will be completely ready come A-Kon.

make sure you come back with lot's of pictures. :)

ChibiBritt
05-14-2007, 02:17 PM
Will do ^_^

insomniel
05-15-2007, 11:16 PM
I think as long as your costume looks well done and relevant to EGL, then you have no reason to be ashamed of cosplay lolita. Use appropriate fabrics and trim, and stay true to the basics of the fashion (like the skirt shape, the socks and accessories, etc). But if your costume looks crappy and not well put-together, then no one can really help you if some fashionistas start flaming you for messing around with their holy fashion as outlined in the bibles.

EGL is a fashion style before it's a costume. If you wear cosplay lolita to an anime convention, then good for you, you made a costume, that's better than not wearing a costume. But you can't expect the people who actually spend money on the authentic Japanese brand clothes to not make a snarky remark. They have high standards to uphold because EGL is so misunderstood, so anything that could mislead outsiders about the true essence of lolita is really flameworthy. I don't blame them.

I personally loved doing the Alice in Wonderland and the Wizard of Oz theme lolitas. It was fun and I like it when other people experiment and show off their ideas. But it's only fun when the outfits look good. When someone wears something sloppy and slutty and calls it lolita, it makes my heart hurt. That's my opinion, feel free to disagree.

Cat-Chan~
05-18-2007, 05:59 PM
Why would you be terrified simply because of what is at best an unorthodox and at worst a hideously retarded idea for an original (bastardization) cosplay?

How do you intend to turn this character (http://www.blogskins.com/screenshot/118233) into something lolita styled and wearing a dress? It defies all logic. O_o;;;
Hmm, I think it's completely doable.
My advice first off is not to use an apple fabric. I would just add apples in as accents. Buttons, Little apple shaped beads, fake apples (I used plastic strawberries on my Ichigo lolita)

I would base the dress more off of the gothic style, using a lot of black. Perhaps a fur trimed capelet to replicate his hary shoulders. You may also want to consider making a belt similar to his for the outfit. Belts arn't necisarily normal in lolita but for this character it could work. A jumper with the belt would look pretty cute I think. Also, DEFINATELY make sure to have that heart earing.

ningyobaka
05-18-2007, 06:13 PM
Hmm, I think it's completely doable.
My advice first off is not to use an apple fabric. I would just add apples in as accents. Buttons, Little apple shaped beads, fake apples (I used plastic strawberries on my Ichigo lolita)

I would base the dress more off of the gothic style, using a lot of black. Perhaps a fur trimed capelet to replicate his hary shoulders. You may also want to consider making a belt similar to his for the outfit. Belts arn't necisarily normal in lolita but for this character it could work. A jumper with the belt would look pretty cute I think. Also, DEFINATELY make sure to have that heart earing.

your ideas are awesome, but really we're not trying to lolify the character so much as put him in a lolita dress.

i love your button idea so doing it. the buttons are absolutely wonderful idea, since yeah we are doing a jumper so we can get it on over his costume easier so he doesn't have to take off his shoulder feathers. (he really wants to do the dress over his normal costume for that edward scissors hands look.)

the earring right now i'm working on making once ot see if he likes it, a heartshaped apple earring.

using neko_chan's helpful links and ideas, we're gonna use a basket with apples in it, most likey fake a real (snack). and the gothic lolita would be super sweet for this if we were lolify ryuk.

thanks so much for the help, i'll finish my sketches tonight and scan them hopefully


got chased out quick by rents for dinner, so edit: how is peter pan loita coming? i wants to see so bad!!! :)

penny_dreadful
06-05-2007, 05:35 PM
For those of you wondering, I finally got some pictures of my Peter Pan lolita hat up. There are two in my gallery, here's one (http://images.cosplay.com/showphoto.php?photo=1115150), the other is just a close-up. I wound up not being able to go to the event I was supposed to wear it to, and of course I've kind of slacked on completing it. The shirt I bought wound up being WAAAAAY too big (I'd forgotten school uniform shirts are designed to be as flattering to the female form as a potato sack, only not as exciting), so I have to do a lot of darting and reshaping to make that presentable. Happily the top and skirt are coming along well and actually have RUFFLES, which I'm really pleased about since I've never had any luck ruffling things before.

One of these days I'll get it all together and show it off a bit.

--Penny

PS, I spent like $30 express shipping a Tinkerbell plush doll to my house, and of course didn't use it because I didn't go to the event so that's $20 down the drain, but boy is she cute!

ningyobaka
06-05-2007, 08:44 PM
loves the hat penny!!!!. it's so awesome. which tink plush?

HackerEd
06-08-2007, 04:50 PM
We're having a small get together at the zoo in a couple of weeks, and I was trying to think of a unique animal themed lolita. Suggestions?

ningyobaka
06-08-2007, 05:44 PM
We're having a small get together at the zoo in a couple of weeks, and I was trying to think of a unique animal themed lolita. Suggestions?

ok this is gonna sound wierd but do you like jellyfish? i think that might be cute if it could be pulled off.

Meiki
06-08-2007, 07:00 PM
Giraffe Loli (http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/40326944/?qo=9&q=by%3Acarnet-atelier&qh=sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps) is one of my favorite designs from Carnet, so cuuuute. I'd like to see a panda! Or a red panda for that matter. Or a mouse!

ningyobaka
06-08-2007, 07:38 PM
Giraffe Loli (http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/40326944/?qo=9&q=by%3Acarnet-atelier&qh=sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps) is one of my favorite designs from Carnet, so cuuuute. I'd like to see a panda! Or a red panda for that matter. Or a mouse!
*points loudly to the red panda* omg!!! awesomeness your idea is.

penny_dreadful
06-08-2007, 07:46 PM
Giraffe loli wins. I know Dia on this site has a very cute circus-animal themed loli. I'm trying to think of cute zoo animals... uh, lemurs, sea lions, hippos, toucans... Sorry, brain dead. But seriously, that giraffe loli is KILLING me.

--PD

Meiki
06-08-2007, 08:15 PM
*points loudly to the red panda* omg!!! awesomeness your idea is.

I loooove red pandas. So cute and fuzzy and GUH.

HackerEd
06-08-2007, 11:16 PM
I've never heard of red pandas, but I looked it up on wikipedia. They are so adorable! I was thinking of doing panda for me, but I might make a red panda one later when I have more time^^ I also have to make an outfit for a small ball jointed doll, and I was thinking of a monkey or a mouse for her.

But wow that giraffe lolita is made of win. Carnet's stuff is always so cute.

Meiki
06-09-2007, 12:11 AM
Okay, I can't resist sharing the dino-rori. Because it's been sitting around for a while. Sooo...Dino-Rori...and it's future. (http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w113/unicorntrials/14.jpg) And some shots of it off of me: Full shot (http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/cult_sbp/closet5.jpg), Close-up of the front (http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/cult_sbp/closet6.jpg), aaaand The shirring of death. (http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/cult_sbp/closet7.jpg)

Just thought I'd share another theme-loli. Because I so rarely wear them! But I couldn't resist some old sheets my friend had.

ctrl-alt-delete
06-09-2007, 10:44 PM
I'm new to costuming and cosplaying, so I'm working on my first themed lolita outfit right now. It's a brown and ivory queen chess lolita. So far I've made the crown, the petticoat, and I'm almost done with the skirt. The skirt consists of eight outer brown pleats with ivory appliques of knights, rooks, etc. and eight inner pleats of a quilt-like chessboard pattern.

ningyobaka
06-09-2007, 10:54 PM
I'm new to costuming and cosplaying, so I'm working on my first themed lolita outfit right now. It's a brown and ivory queen chess lolita. So far I've made the crown, the petticoat, and I'm almost done with the skirt. The skirt consists of eight outer brown pleats with ivory appliques of knights, rooks, etc. and eight inner pleats of a quilt-like chessboard pattern.

pictures? please? must see the chess.

also i have a rough sketch of the ryuk lolita. i still have yet to get measurements from him. :P but i have the apple fabric and it's going to have a green waist bow in the back. those are the for sure things we have figured out.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a300/tsukiana/drawings/scan0019.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a300/tsukiana/drawings/scan0020.jpg

the second one is the choker i was looking at making for him.

Cat-Chan~
06-12-2007, 03:44 PM
At Akon we had a group of EGL Bleach characters
I wanted to share some pictures
these were taken by Arei
http://images.cosplay.com/showphoto.php?photo=1115439
http://images.cosplay.com/showphoto.php?photo=1115424
http://images.cosplay.com/showphoto.php?photo=1115425
http://images.cosplay.com/showphoto.php?photo=1115502

321stars
06-13-2007, 12:47 PM
I drew up a design for a fox lolita forever ago: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/22366595/ The bright color scanned strangely, it's supposed to be more of a dark reddish color.

I've been toying with the idea of making a wa-loli Okami lately (I love that game sososososo much). It would be mostly white (probably a patterned white fabric) with little hints of red.

Pixie of Death
06-13-2007, 01:09 PM
My friend and I did ero-loli versions of Vash and Wolfwood last year. I've been toying with the idea of doing a more sweet loli version of those two. And I'm planning on designing a loli version of Abel Nightroad (Trinity Blood) as well.

I'm also designing a set of Seasonal Lolitas. Now I just need to find the time to actually make some of these... =P