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Greyback
02-22-2007, 03:27 PM
This is my first post at Cosplay. I plan to attend SDCC this summer for the first time. Although I'm not a cosplayer myself I hope to shoot lots and lots of photos of everyone parading in excellent costumes! I want to ask whether there's like a 'rule' of something before people go trigger happy on all you players with their cameras. I mean, before I would take a pic of anyone, I guess I would ask them first, you know being polite and all. Seems only fair.
Or is it like complete random madness and people take your pic constantly without asking you? Does it bug you or don't you mind? Any views on this may be helpful! I'm talking about the cosplayers that are at the con, not specific events like the maskerade and such.
Looking forward to SDCC!

ZiggyB
02-22-2007, 04:23 PM
It happens both ways. A lot of people will just take pictures of cosplayers/costumers as they are walking around with no warning.

But it is more polite if you ask people for their photo. Also it gives them the chance to pose for you as many costumers will have a pose ready for photographers.

So I would suggest you ask before taking the photo.

Dany
02-22-2007, 04:32 PM
You have the right idea. Asking is always a good idea if you are able and they are not already posed. It's very possible that they are on their way to something and are on a time frame of some sort, and it's hard enough to get through the SDCC crowds as it is without the costume-pose stops. That, and not being posed kind of ruins the effect sometimes.

If they are already posed and photos are in progress, then I would say it's safe to snap, as they are not standing there looking pretty for nothing! :)

If for some reason you snapshot somebody without them noticing (hey, we all know sometimes the best shots come without warnings to the subject), see if you can't flag them down and let them know you go their photo, perhaps even showing it to the subject so they can see the result if it's good. Carrying a simple business card where they might be able to get a copy somehow (posted online, etc.) is an appreciated courtesy, as many can't carry a camera about, and often the photography of others is the only way to see how a costume looked from the viewer's side.

(I can't tell you HOW many times I've been photographed by people that I really wish I could have seen the end results!)

All else fails, don't post or keep bad shots. Nothing stinks more for people than to find a photo of them online, only to discover that they were making a bad expression or were caught at a horrid angle unawares.

maggifan
02-22-2007, 07:42 PM
well it would be more polite to ask for a picture first.....it bother me once when i was at comic-con and i was fixing my cosplay(my skirt) and a guy just came from the nowhere and took me a picture.....the flash almost blind me and i don't think it turn out such a good picture T_T;

Greyback
02-27-2007, 03:14 PM
Thank you for responding!
Yes, I see some valid points here, like the cosplayer him or herself wanting to get a copy of the picture. Thank you for the suggestion of the business card Dany, that's a very good idea. As for bad photos, that's very understandable. I can only speak for myself but I intend to make them as great looking as possible. All the effort can be wasted with a bad pic, so they won't be kept ;)
Maggifan- that's the thing I really want to avoid. I love to take shots of people but not at times when it's inconvienient for them. I assumed stuff like that would happen once in a while, it good to hear it doesn't happen too often.
Thanks all for your comments again (including Ziggy B! :), maybe I'll snap you this summer!

linkluver6
02-28-2007, 12:00 AM
alrighty then I will be looking for you to snap me pretty perfect hee hee

Rikku Dattebayo
02-28-2007, 09:44 PM
actually, it's fine either way. i just tend to laugh when there's a random passerby that takes a picture of me. XD

then again, it's cute the ask.

hehe... look for me! RIKKU DATTEBAYO!! and ask!
i'm going all 4 days and preview night like every year.

Greyback
03-06-2007, 01:39 PM
linkluver6 - who knows, maybe I'll run into you! :)
I'll be there as Greyback as well!

Rikku Dattebayo - I should be there for all 4 days and the preview night as well ;) I see Yuna is in your collection too! I make fan arts in my spare time and I've set myself this silly goal of trying to snap the characters in Cosplay I've drawn so far. May be fun to do ;) I did Yuna, Kimahri and Wakka among others so here's hoping ^_^
Don't worry I'll ask first!

Eurobeat King
03-08-2007, 04:16 AM
Here's another question for cosplayers who go to SDCC:

"How many of you feel like a Disneyland-type (or other theme-park if you don't like Disney) mascot when you're in costume?" When I ask that, it means does your costume seem to attract the crowds of people who want to pose with you for pictures? Like when someone cosplays as say, Darth Vader, or Jack Sparrow, lots of people rush up to them to take their pictures with them. Does this happen to you in your costume?

SDCC (and WonderCon) attendees seem to be different from anime cons, because I've noticed that most of those who attend range from little kids to teens, all the way to families with baby-strollers. And most of them are not cosplayers but simply fans. And then there are those that just want to take pictures with that cosplayer, even though he/she may not know what the person is cosplaying from.. :thumbsup:

From a photographer's POV, it's harder at these cons to try and get pictures of the cosplayers by themselves, since if there's a large crowd of people taking pictures, and after one kid wants to pose with say, a Lara Croft cosplayer, then another one will jump in, and then another. It's definitely not as bad as it is at AX or another anime convention..

questionablekri
03-08-2007, 05:12 PM
"How many of you feel like a Disneyland-type (or other theme-park if you don't like Disney) mascot when you're in costume?" When I ask that, it means does your costume seem to attract the crowds of people who want to pose with you for pictures? Like when someone cosplays as say, Darth Vader, or Jack Sparrow, lots of people rush up to them to take their pictures with them. Does this happen to you in your costume?

On Sunday last year when I wore my Sophie (from Howl's Moving Castle) costume I definetely felt like that. I remember for posing with these little girls for a picture. I had kneeled down in this semi-awkward position with my scarecrow for a picture. It wouldn't have been bad for a single picture..but in the second that the girls' father snapped his shot...about 15 other people with cameras showed up. And I didn't have a change to change my pose so I was stuck in a position where I proceeded to get more and more uncomfortable. It was maybe only a minute or two but it felt like forever >.< Then there were the groups of people who ran up to me every other hallway. I have to admit though it was pretty fun. The only thing that sucks is not being able to change the pose...because I always get stuck in the most awkward positions.

Lyuba-chan
03-09-2007, 12:02 AM
Here's another question for cosplayers who go to SDCC:

"How many of you feel like a Disneyland-type (or other theme-park if you don't like Disney) mascot when you're in costume?" When I ask that, it means does your costume seem to attract the crowds of people who want to pose with you for pictures? Like when someone cosplays as say, Darth Vader, or Jack Sparrow, lots of people rush up to them to take their pictures with them. Does this happen to you in your costume?

SDCC (and WonderCon) attendees seem to be different from anime cons, because I've noticed that most of those who attend range from little kids to teens, all the way to families with baby-strollers. And most of them are not cosplayers but simply fans. And then there are those that just want to take pictures with that cosplayer, even though he/she may not know what the person is cosplaying from.. :thumbsup:

From a photographer's POV, it's harder at these cons to try and get pictures of the cosplayers by themselves, since if there's a large crowd of people taking pictures, and after one kid wants to pose with say, a Lara Croft cosplayer, then another one will jump in, and then another. It's definitely not as bad as it is at AX or another anime convention..
Yeah, I completely and totally feel like it! And you even seen it happening! :P But at the same time, I enjoy posing, and taking pictures with people, so for most part it's ok. The only time it's gets annoying is when I'm trying to eat, or talking, or OBVIOUSLY doing something and people keep coming and asking to take a photo.

Greyback
03-11-2007, 03:41 PM
"SDCC (and WonderCon) attendees seem to be different from anime cons, because I've noticed that most of those who attend range from little kids to teens, all the way to families with baby-strollers. And most of them are not cosplayers but simply fans. "


Interesting ;)
I initially thought it was the reason why people did cosplay, because they were a fan of the character. Cosplay being Japanese in origin (guessing here ^_^; ), I understand that there's a difference between anime cosplay fans and more westerns cosplayers (who portray Darth Vader or Jack Sparrow or something). I have to admit there'll be a lot of anime costumes I won't recognise (unless it's related to Square Enix and Final Fantasy :p) but maybe it's just that Western characters are more recognisable amongst the (western) crowd at those cons. Hence you'll attract all the fans who want to check out the movie character with their own eyes ;) As an outsider looking in on the whole thing, I think anime cosplay is more targeted at cosplay fans itself. Does this make sense?

Eurobeat King
03-12-2007, 09:56 PM
"SDCC (and WonderCon) attendees seem to be different from anime cons, because I've noticed that most of those who attend range from little kids to teens, all the way to families with baby-strollers. And most of them are not cosplayers but simply fans. "


Interesting ;)
I initially thought it was the reason why people did cosplay, because they were a fan of the character. Cosplay being Japanese in origin (guessing here ^_^; ), I understand that there's a difference between anime cosplay fans and more westerns cosplayers (who portray Darth Vader or Jack Sparrow or something). I have to admit there'll be a lot of anime costumes I won't recognise (unless it's related to Square Enix and Final Fantasy :p) but maybe it's just that Western characters are more recognisable amongst the (western) crowd at those cons. Hence you'll attract all the fans who want to check out the movie character with their own eyes ;) As an outsider looking in on the whole thing, I think anime cosplay is more targeted at cosplay fans itself. Does this make sense?

I was referring to the majority of fans who attend comic-book cons like SDCC, who aren't cosplayers and are just there to see the sights and have a good time. Con attendees may not recognize the characters' costume(s), but still rush up and pose with them for pictures. This makes it hard for the cosplayers, because there are times when they're trying to go somewhere, and they'll have only moved a couple of feet before being stopped for pictures again. :thumbsup:

piwackit
03-13-2007, 06:28 PM
SDCC seems to attract lots of families who don't necessarily cosplay.
They will be the ones who will get their kid to snap a photo with the most recognizable character. Yes, it's hard to move more than 5 feet when everyone seems to want a picture w/you. Yes, it can be very Disneylike in that respect. (I always chased Tigger when I was little :) )

As to photos: asking is good, but sometimes you've just got to take it from a distance when things are crazy busy. The biz card is a great idea, like Dany said, sometimes that's the only way some people have photos of their outfits.
As good place to snap some would be for the people waiting in line for the Masquerade on Saturday.

Also a quick FYI for everyone here & please pass this on:
I was just asked to pass this on for anyone planning on attending.
SDCC will officially be LIMITING the number of badges for Saturday. Four-day memberships will also be limited. With online purchased available, they have decided that this is the best way to go, since last year was overcrowded. Once they sell out that's it.

Rikku Dattebayo
03-13-2007, 09:33 PM
SDCC seems to attract lots of families who don't necessarily cosplay.
They will be the ones who will get their kid to snap a photo with the most recognizable character. Yes, it's hard to move more than 5 feet when everyone seems to want a picture w/you. Yes, it can be very Disneylike in that respect. (I always chased Tigger when I was little :) )

As to photos: asking is good, but sometimes you've just got to take it from a distance when things are crazy busy. The biz card is a great idea, like Dany said, sometimes that's the only way some people have photos of their outfits.
As good place to snap some would be for the people waiting in line for the Masquerade on Saturday.

Also a quick FYI for everyone here & please pass this on:
I was just asked to pass this on for anyone planning on attending.
SDCC will officially be LIMITING the number of badges for Saturday. Four-day memberships will also be limited. With online purchased available, they have decided that this is the best way to go, since last year was overcrowded. Once they sell out that's it.

A WHAAAAAT?!?!!! NO WAY!!

BrianAnim
03-21-2007, 02:34 AM
I bought mine months ago.

Greyback
03-31-2007, 12:48 PM
Thank you piwackit, for the additional info about the photos and the limited number of badges on Saturday. I bought mine a while back so I hope that'll do the trick to get in. I hope people who did preregister online for their ticket will get precedence to people who did not? I mean, once the convention credits your creditcard, its a guarantee for your entry, right?

Reno_kun
04-02-2007, 12:19 AM
I would perfer if you asked for my picture but either way really goes for me as long as I'm not eating lunch there, cosplayer with food in mouth, not a great pic.

piwackit
04-02-2007, 03:24 AM
Here's the official blurb from the SDCCI website:

"Important note: NEW for this year, Comic-Con will be limiting the number of memberships sold! Last year on Saturday we reached the capacity of the Convention Center, so while we hate to turn people away, we have no choice. A limited number of one-day memberships for Saturday will be sold, and they will probably sell out online before the convention even starts. Also, there will be a limited number of 4-day full memberships sold. Therefore, it is very important that you buy your membership as soon as possible, especially if you are buying a Saturday-only badge. We expect that memberships for Thursday, Friday and Sunday will always be available, but it is still a good idea not to wait. Contestants need a badge valid for Saturday to be in the Masquerade Saturday night!
Also, be sure to allow plenty of extra time to find parking! With the convention being so large, parking can be difficult to find. Comic-Con provides shuttle buses that stop at many hotels and the Convention Center, and they are free to ride for those with Comic-Con badges."

Sweet~Pea
04-02-2007, 03:27 PM
personally: I definately want photographers to ask or at least make it known if they're taking my photo. It drives me crazy when people take photos of my ala "drive-by shooting" What's the point of taking a photo of a favorite character or pretty outfit if the cosplayer is in a weird position or has the face of death (or something as equally akward) ^_^

When a cosplayer or group is having lots of people taking photos it's also helpful for the costumers and you if you give a shout out "hey over here" *waves* and most can look at you for a moment so you don't have everyone looking every which way. I try to make it a point to anticipate photo takers to look at the cameras in turn when I can.

[Seraph]
04-04-2007, 12:09 AM
I havent really ever gotten out to the big cosplay cons, I basically only get to go to SDCC cuz of my work schedule (so I dont have any other comparisons)... but as someone who regularly cosplays there, Id recommend asking for a picture. Obviously if you cant reach them in time or there are too many people in the way, snap your photo so you can at least get something. Asking however, as people have said, allows the player to pose properly and give you a much better shot. It is also sort of a compliment to them, that you think theyre film-worthy, which is always nice especially when you spend a lot of time on your cosplay.

SantanaCosplays
04-04-2007, 05:05 PM
Kind of a quick response, but sometimes when someone is getting pictures taking already, and you wait to ask them for a picture, they might do somthing nice for you (i.E finish putting their acc.'s on.)

All this people came up after this one guy asked for a photo and she didnt have time to put her gloves on. But she happly put them on after i asked after the bombarment. ^_^ Sometimes being patient is the best.

Sockai-chan
04-10-2007, 02:27 PM
It would be very polite to ask for a picture than just randomly taking a picture. Some cosplayer I know practice their pose for pics so it's better if they are warned before a picture is taken.

Thanks for posting this ^^

I'm organizing a cosplay group at SDCCI this year for Avatar: The Last Airbender if you are interested in takeing a few pictures of us ^^

Greyback
04-16-2007, 03:40 PM
Thanks for the many replies so far!

Reno kun- yes, I've actually heard this comment before! It indeed does not make a nice looking image so I'm sure you won't find me shooting pics of eating cosplayers ;)

piwackit- Thanks for the full blurb! :) Sounds like it's gonna be pretty crowded!

animechicky2040- "drive-by photography", that sound terrible! Yep, you're right, very little point in taking pics like that!
Thanks for the useful tips. Gesturing works pretty well in my humble experience, the cosplayer can get into a cool pose and it gives me time to focus the camera too ;)

Seraph- Thanks for your opinion! I'll do that if I have the opportunity to ask them. The reason why I want to take a pic is indeed because I think they're film-worthy! And it's fun to shoot pics of cool looking costumes too ;)

SantanaCosplays- LOL patience is a virtue and clearly pays off ;)
Thanks for sharing the little anecdote.

Sockai-chan- I'm happy the thread got so much response so far. It brought up some valuable points, like cosplayers never getting hold of some of their better looking photos, so I'm happy I asked the question.
As for your Avatar Airbender group, I'd be happy to take some pics! I hope I can find you in the crowd!

Strider
04-17-2007, 05:45 AM
I've had it happen both ways. I've had people ask politely for a photo, and then while I am taking that photo, others show up and take their own, figuring it's picture day with Dr. Jones. I've been mobbed and near blinded by flash bulbs. I appreciate being asked, but I usually accommodate as many people as I can when it's: "Indy! Over here!" "Indy! Indy! This way!"

Also, as for this Saturday attendance cap, if they sell you a 4-day badge online, you're guaranteed entrance, right? I just bought my 4-day badge online with my debit card, and I didn't get a notice about them being sold out of them or anything, so I am guessing that I will be able to hit the floor on Saturday?

Strider
04-18-2007, 04:09 PM
Also, as for this Saturday attendance cap, if they sell you a 4-day badge online, you're guaranteed entrance, right? I just bought my 4-day badge online with my debit card, and I didn't get a notice about them being sold out of them or anything, so I am guessing that I will be able to hit the floor on Saturday?

Does anyone know the answer to this question?

piwackit
04-18-2007, 04:48 PM
So far the only info. I've seen is the one I listed here. That's from the SDCC website. I think the closer it gets to con, is when a lot of people will not be able to purchase one day passes. They had over 124 thousand people attend last year, so I can see the reason for the cap. It was bound to happen sometime.
Just get your stuff done early & make sure you've got a place to stay.

Good Luck!

Strider
04-19-2007, 02:48 AM
Well, a place to stay isn't a problem because I live in San Diego. I can just stay at home. :) I just want to make sure that if I've already bought myself a 4 day pass that I am guaranteed entry on all days.

Greyback
04-26-2007, 04:53 PM
Hi Strider,
Thanks for sharing your view on it, I'll look out for "Indy" for sure ;) No doubt, there'll be more than just you too now that the fourth movie even has a release date :) All Indy's rejoice! :D

Strider
04-27-2007, 12:29 AM
Depending on what day you see me, I will be in a different costume. On Thursday, I will be in my Conner Kent costume. Friday, I will be cosplaying The Spirit if I can swing it, and only on Saturday will I be in my Indy Gear. Hope my post on the other thread was helpful.

Greyback
05-20-2007, 02:11 PM
Depending on what day you see me, I will be in a different costume. On Thursday, I will be in my Conner Kent costume. Friday, I will be cosplaying The Spirit if I can swing it, and only on Saturday will I be in my Indy Gear. Hope my post on the other thread was helpful.

Thanks for elaborating. :-) Sounds like you have a good set of characters to choose from. I apologise for the long delay in replying, had some computer problems :/

piwackit
05-25-2007, 03:27 PM
The News from the Comic-Con web site:


Important Information About Comic-Con Registration and Attendance!
If you've been to Comic-Con the past few years, we don't have to tell you: It's a BIG show with lots of people. And the reality of the situation is quite simple: We're looking at limiting attendance this year.

Last year, Comic-Con sold out on Saturday. By "sold out," we mean we reached our maximum attendance capacity for that day. There's a strong probability we'll sell out on Saturday this year, also. That may result in no onsite registration for Saturday. If the crowds thin out later in the day, we may open registration for those of you who just have to come on Saturday, or want to see the Masquerade but just can't face the crowd in the Exhibit Hall. And while we didn't sell out on any of the other days last year, there's always the possibility it may happen this year. Because of this, we strongly urge you to register online as soon as possible.

New 3-Day Membership
To help keep the crowds down on Saturday, we're introducing a special 3-Day Membership that includes entry into Comic-Con on Thursday, Friday and Sunday, plus Preview Night on Wednesday evening. That's right: NO SATURDAY. This special 3-Day Membership is available only online. It will not be offered through the mail or onsite. If you already go to the San Diego Zoo or Sea World on Saturday to avoid the crowd at Comic-Con, this is the membership for you. (For those of you who have already purchased a 4-Day Membership and would like to avoid the crowds on Saturday, we will gladly refund the difference and change you to a 3- day.)

Comic-Con's primary concern is your experience at our event. When there are too many people, no one has a fun time. We're working on the crowding issues, with your safety first and foremost on our mind. As always, you can find the latest information on attendance and registration on this website.

Strider
05-26-2007, 05:02 AM
I bought my 4-day badge back in April. I'm in like Flynn.

Greyback
05-30-2007, 04:31 PM
Thanks for posting the info here as well, Piwackit. Sounds like it's gonna be quite something...