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.:Mage.Lulu:.
02-19-2008, 03:14 PM
o_o I'm really making quite a few threads relating to Seras Victoria! I can never find what I'm looking for on the already existing threads.
Okay.. as the title mentions, this thread is on the smaller of details on the golden yellow uniform that Seras has adopted in the new series of Hellsing - Hellsing Ulimate.
Warning, I am pedantic over costumes and am after complete accuracy in my work. >.> <.<'

Looking at the older version of Seras' uniform (by this I am referring to the animé variant, the blue uniform) and on this, I noticed that the skirt she wears has splits.
Reference 1 (http://www.pulpfilm.com/anime/images/hellsing-wallpaper.jpg)
As are clearly shown here.
Also, note that there are no splits in the shirt at the side, either, however there is a split in the back.
Reference 2 (http://www.advfilms.co.uk/titles/hellsing/image.php?file=images/recon/characters/sheet31.jpg)

Now in the transition from Hellsing to Hellsing Ultimate, there are dramatic changes to the look.
We now see a uniform of a golden yellow colour, the socks are white, the gloves are brown, there is black/dark piping around the collar, it is all of one colour instead of a mix of blue/yellow (excluding armband) etcetera.

And even in Ultimate.. the trademark of Hirano, every panel changes.

o.O okay, so looking now at Ultimate, there are no side splits in the skirt, or any at all in any of the scenes in Ultimate - I checked :D. But where my question comes in is the side splits in the shirt.
In these references, the side splits are clearly shown.
Reference a (http://i27.tinypic.com/2enos3t.jpg)
Reference b (http://i28.tinypic.com/2ekhlp1.jpg)
Reference c (http://i32.tinypic.com/jj8dp0.jpg)

However in these references, they are non-existant...
Reference d (http://i32.tinypic.com/102p7vk.jpg)
Reference e (http://i31.tinypic.com/25gt85y.jpg)

Considering there is also a split in the back of the uniform (please refer to reference a for this - should I put in the side splits or not? o.o

Considering also that the front of the shirt at the front opening below the belt always sits at an inverted V shape. (See reference E), should I cut that section to that shape or not add in side splits so it pulls it apart to that shape naturally? (Hope that makes sense to you.)

>.< As I said, I'm pedantic. I love details and when I make a costume I look at how things sit and move and everything. This is what makes cosplay fun for me :D Aquiring accurate costumes and aiming for perfection! ^_^
So any opinions are velcome! So, side splits yes or no (Think it'll look better/sit better?) and should I cut the front opening into shape?

U_ne_korn
02-19-2008, 03:18 PM
I think that the only solution to your problem is to pick which-ever one you like best and run with it. I know that pedantry can be it's own reward, but if the source material can't make up it's mind, you have to do it yourself. Also, approximately three people are going to notice if you get it "wrong" - the rest are going to be hiding from the vampire.

.:Mage.Lulu:.
02-19-2008, 03:28 PM
I think that the only solution to your problem is to pick which-ever one you like best and run with it. I know that pedantry can be it's own reward, but if the source material can't make up it's mind, you have to do it yourself. Also, approximately three people are going to notice if you get it "wrong" - the rest are going to be hiding from the vampire.

I know I should chose which -I- prefer. I'm not actually sure which I prefer.
I guess I do think it would look slightly better with the splits in, however I see the big picture that it might look nice, but it might affect the way the front opening seams sit. No splits means there is more tug from the side, pulling in the front, opening them out. o.o I was just wondering what the opinions of others were. =)

Haha, and yes, they probably will be hiding. Especially since I'mma be packing my Harkonnnen Cannon to accurate scale in London no less :D Yay for British-set Mangas!

Meanlilkitty
02-19-2008, 04:14 PM
You can look up may gallery if you want. I've done both Blue and Blood Seras. In the meantime, I went ahead and put rather large slits in my skirt. Mainly because my legs are short and I'm trying to make them look as good as possible. Also the skirt is so short that if I wanted to do more active poses, the skirt would have hiked up to my waist. So having slits makes the skirt more versitile, and there's no crime in showing off some theigh!

U_ne_korn
02-19-2008, 04:18 PM
You've got a Harkonnen Cannon!! SO TOTALLY COOL!

Meanlilkitty
02-19-2008, 04:24 PM
Lol it's a cheapass cannon tho. I'd like to redo it again using more traditional materials like pipe rather than wonderflux, plus figure out the box shape in the front so its more accurate.

.:Mage.Lulu:.
02-19-2008, 05:13 PM
Haha, scary, I did a search for Seras cosplayers less than an hour ago and did in fact visit your gallery, Meanlilkitty! And now you have come to comment in my thread :D

Actually, you've made a valid point that I overlooked - posability and versatility of the skirt. O_O and it is so very short. I think I may well put the splits in now, considering this, as I am being accompanied with my Hellsing cosplay by EksDee-Alucard as my Jan Valentine for LondonExpo - police pin poses and headlock are inevitable >=) It would serve me well to have that extra durability in the skirt though I think no matter what I do with it, there will be a certain amount of riding up >.<


You've got a Harkonnen Cannon!! SO TOTALLY COOL!

Lol it's a cheapass cannon tho. I'd like to redo it again using more traditional materials like pipe rather than wonderflux, plus figure out the box shape in the front so its more accurate.

Hehe, my cannon was made using things I already had at home - cheap, yes, I think so!
I used PVC pipe, drainage connectors and also solid wood which I carved into shape. It stands at 6ft, and retracts to a cute 4ft gun :D S'not quite done, but theres a progress shot in my unsorted photos in my gallery ^_^

Meanlilkitty
02-19-2008, 09:27 PM
Oo, I'll have to go look. My cannon was the first prop I ever made, so I've been learning a lot since then and I can't wait to be able to make it again.
Yea, no matter what there's going to be a lot of potential panty shots with that short skirt. So, a very odd detail to Hellsing is that no matter what Seras does, you never see her undies, there is always a very convienent shadow blocking her crotch. So, I always wear a pair of black bikini undies. XP For even more active days where i may end up in a tree or something, I have a pair of plain black bike shorts. Cheerleaders spankies would be great too.

uplaw
05-15-2008, 05:41 PM
You're right, THE Seras, I never noticed that Seras's skirt didn't have side splits sometimes in the OVA.
*jots down*
Hmmm, the Blood!Seras has side splits
http://www.cosplay.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=26562&d=1197679116
And so does the newer Seras figure.
http://bro-usa.com/wholesale/images/stories/UART/hellsing-seras_victoria.jpg
The OVA cover has a side slit
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t209/ova3/ova%203%20box%20art/boxfrontlimited.jpg
and I've been checking the manga, and more often than not, there is a slide slit, especially in the recent chapters.
I would say go for it.

As for the shirt, I think you should should only do the one in the back. In the more recent chapters, it's nonexsistant. Also, the figures don't have side slits in the shirt.
I think cutting the front into the right shape would work too. :]

Tess
05-15-2008, 07:13 PM
As a fellow accuracy fiend, I have to say welcome to the fandom that will drive you absolutely insane with inconsistency. XP Simply looking through the manga you will find a million variations, and then adding the anime and OVA [in which the designs change subtly each installment] into the mix... SUCH FUN.

My only advice is to perhaps pick with one particular image [in my case, it was one particular manga chapter cover that inspired the majority of my Blood Seras] and work from that. Mixing and matching can be fun, too, but I know I work better when I have one specific image in my mind and not a mish-mash of various designs. Good luck!

@-->--- Tess

pmastamonkmonk
05-16-2008, 09:06 AM
ooooh, how did you make it retract like that? I've been thinking of doing a Seras and the gun is what's keeping me from doing it, the last bazooka I made is just way too big to carry around

.:Mage.Lulu:.
05-16-2008, 10:18 AM
ooooh, how did you make it retract like that? I've been thinking of doing a Seras and the gun is what's keeping me from doing it, the last bazooka I made is just way too big to carry around

Mine?

My retractable 4ft - 6ft Harkonnen Cannon - unfinished (http://www.cosplay.com/photo/1479237/)

Mine retracts working using two lengths of PVC drainage pipe, purchased at any decent hardware or homeware store. (Or if you're lucky like I am, offa my dad's van.)

The lower half of it (also attached to the stock and buttstock) is slightly wider than the top half, so quite simply, the smaller girth 'barrel' slides in and out of the larger barrel quite easily.

The smaller barrel of mine actually has two screws in the end, adjacent to each other, with the heads sticking out slightly, this grips the inside of the larger barrel to slow down its movement when taking it out, and also helps to stop it retracting back inside itself when stood upright as shown in the photo.


The smaller barrel actually has a wad of scrap material bound around it at the point where i want it to stop retracting, this slows down the movement even more, and also makes it a tighter fit inside.

A very simple design really ^_^ hope this helps people.