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chris-chan
12-13-2008, 10:19 PM
So, I noticed a lot of people asking how to make Zero's Bloody Rose. So, I decided i'd take some time to make one and write a tutorial on how to go about making your own. The one I made was Featherweight inspired, meaning it was made out of cardboard and hot glue. I plan to make another using wood, so look for that to be added in about a week.

First off, my way isn't the only way. There's many ways to go about making your own Bloody Rose. The easiest would be to buy a airsoft gun that looks like the Bloody Rose and just add the details. If the con you are attending does not allow airsoft guns, take it apart and pull out the spring, then fill with hot glue or resin to make it so that it won't function anymore. The hardest method would probably be for you to mold it and probably make it out of resin. It all depends on what technique you prefer.

Now, with that out of the way, I would like to say mine is not the best. It was done in one day with stuff I had lying around, so it was rushed. Now, with that being said, for a rushed piece, even close to the camera, I think it photographs pretty well. Your's may look better than mine, or sadly, worse. All depends on how much effort you put into it.

Alright, first off your gonna have to gather the following materials: http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/mew_mewaddict/Bloody%20Rose/?action=view&current=bloodyrose004-1.jpg
At first I used the box the MRE's come in, do not use it. It is not corrugated, so it is a pain to cut and is thin.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/mew_mewaddict/Bloody%20Rose/bloodyrose016-1.jpg
You don't need to use acrylics, but they are just waht I ahd lying around and looked good in the end.
Lastly, you're going to need a good, clean workspace. I used my bedroom floor for construction and an open spot in my garage for painting. Also, you're going to need reference pictures. I used pictures of the AMT Harball (looks almost like the Bloody Rose) and pics of the Bloody Rose to come up with my template, which I hand drew, and i'll see about scanning it into my computer so that y'all can use it as well. I used legal sized paper, and the length alone is 10 1/2".
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/mew_mewaddict/Bloody%20Rose/bloodyrose001.jpg

Alright, lets get started!
First, you're going to want to get your template cut out and ready to go. Then you'll want to unfold your box so that it is open completely.

Next, you're going to want to position your template so that you can get the most pieces out of an area of cardboard. Bad set-up: (Notice how you can get more out of the space given) http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/mew_mewaddict/Bloody%20Rose/bloodyrose005.jpg
Good set-up: http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/mew_mewaddict/Bloody%20Rose/bloodyrose006.jpg
I ended up needing about five cardboard copies of the template for my final gun.

Alright, after you get all your pieces cut out, you're going to want to sandwich them together with hot glue. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/mew_mewaddict/Bloody%20Rose/bloodyrose008.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/mew_mewaddict/Bloody%20Rose/bloodyrose007.jpg

Now would be a good time to cut off any excess hanging out to get it as even as possible.

Next, you are going to want to add the big details, like the chamber, recessed trigger guard, sights, hammer, etc. To do this, you just have to take your box cutter and make small incisions and then peal away (only one layer of cardboard). http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/mew_mewaddict/Bloody%20Rose/bloodyrose007-1.jpg You're also gonna want to do this for the grips: http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/mew_mewaddict/Bloody%20Rose/bloodyrose009.jpg
After you cut away the grips, fill area partially in with hot glue. This will wive the grips a raised look when you go to reinsert new ones (take the cut out area and use it as atemplate for new cardboard pieces the same size).

Next, you are going to want to seal off the edges so that you can paint them and they'll all be even. To do this, you are going to want to follow the techniques Featherweight describes in his tutorials (lay down some hot glue, then spread even with the tip of the glue gun). Should look something like this: http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/mew_mewaddict/Bloody%20Rose/bloodyrose011.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/mew_mewaddict/Bloody%20Rose/bloodyrose012.jpg

So far, you should have something that looks like this: http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/mew_mewaddict/Bloody%20Rose/bloodyrose014.jpg

Now, to add the details onto the slide, you are going to want to take a piece of corrugated cardboard and peel off the layer of paper on one side: http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/mew_mewaddict/Bloody%20Rose/bloodyrose015.jpg
Then, cut to the size you need and glue on over grip.

Now, on to painting. I used some black spray paint I had lying around as a primer. It helped me see the high spots and the extra glue on the edges. To get the edges equal, take your box cutter and slowly cut off the excess glue. Then proceed to paint entire gun. I used one layer of slate grey then two of metallic silver. The slate grey turned out to be pretty much pointless, so just stick with metallic silver or other metallic color. You can use acrylics like me, or go on down to Home Depot and buy some spray paint, it's all your choice.

So far, after painting, you should have something like this: http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/mew_mewaddict/Bloody%20Rose/bloodyrose020.jpg

Now, time to add the finishing details. The Bloody Rose has wood grips, the look can be acheived by either not paining the grips, or using a marker or crayon to color over them. I ended up using a crayon to color over the grips to give it the brown wood look. Also, you are going to want to use your permanent marker to add details to make it look more realistic. You're going to want to detail the chamber, slide, grip, hammer, and sights. (look at my pictures for help)

After it is all done, you should have something that closely (hopefully better) resembles this:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/mew_mewaddict/Bloody%20Rose/bloodyrose021.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/mew_mewaddict/Bloody%20Rose/bloodyrose023.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/mew_mewaddict/Bloody%20Rose/bloodyrose024.jpg

Congratulations, you just made the Bloody Rose! Keep looking back, because hopefully within the week i'll have instructions on how to make one out of wood! Good luck and above all be safe and have fun!

chris-chan
12-19-2008, 07:18 PM
Alright, so I promised pics of the wooden version by the end of the week, adn I made my deadline! It's not 100% finished, still have to engrave the Bloody Rose name and all, as well as paint it, and maybe add a trigger, but here it is as well as a tutorial for what I have one up to now. It won't be long because it's up to you to how detailed you go.

DISCLAIMER: I am not responsible for any injury you sustain while replicating this process. Power tools are not toys and can be very dangerous. A clear mind and patience must be had when working on them. If you don't believe me, I have cut my hand while trying to ruch through drilling a hole into aluminum with a drill press because the bit seized up and the aluminum rotated and hit my finger. I have also drilled almost cut my finger almost to the bone using a Dremel because the cutting wheel did not grip and rotated around the piece and hit my finger. People have gotten metal shavings into their eyes, lost the meat on their hands from accidently stabbing them with tools, and a list of other serious injuries. Be careful and always wear your safety glasses! Also, if you do not know how to use a tool, don't use it! Ask someone to help you and use adult supervision.

Materials: (no fancy picture this time) I used a 2X4 because it is what I had lying around, but you're going to need some sort of wood with as little knots as possible, preferably a soft wood so that it is easy to carve; a jig-saw or other saw to cut out rough shape; if using something like a 2X4 that needs to be stacked to give you the right height, you'll need wood glue, dowels to add support, a drill bit the same size of the dowels, and clamps to hold the wood together while it dries; a permanent marker; a pencil; carving utensil, I used a Dremel with a wood carving bit, but you can always hand carve it if you want; reference pics; sandpaper, preferably a power sander to go with it to make the job go faster, I used 60 grit and 150 grit; and above all, safety glasses: http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/mew_mewaddict/?action=view&current=bloodyrose040.jpg
Mine are a pair of sunglasses that wrap around the eye to protect it. You want a pair that wrap around the eye to protect it fully. Remember to always wair them!

Alright, so my 2X4 wasn't tall enough for my completed gun, so I had to stack them. To do this, you're going to want to plane the edges until they are flush together. I used a power planer/jointer. I know not everyone has one of these, so using a band saw and a steady hand might do the trick. If you don't have a band saw, you could use a regular saw and a teady hand, but be really careful because you're hand might shift and you'll have to do it all over again, which is why I recommended a power planer or a hand planer.

Next, drill the holes for the dowels where you want them. I suggest putting them close together so that they can be concealed in your grip so that when you go to cut, you don't accidently cut through one.

After you have drilled the holes on one side, they have these nifty metal pieces that have a point on them and fit into the holes. I seriously suggest picking them up because they line up the holes exactly on he other piece when the two pieces are pushed together. These come in handy because now you dont have to guess where the holes are! But, you probably get the idea of what you have to do next, drill the holes on the other piece, put glue into the holes, add the dowels, add glue to the wood, and clamp tight. The instructions on the glue say to not stress the connection for at least 24 hours. I waited a day and a half to be on the safe side. http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/mew_mewaddict/?action=view&current=bloodyrose032.jpg

It also helps to mark what sides the dowels are on so that later you don't put the template on the wrong side making the whole process pointless. http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/mew_mewaddict/?action=view&current=bloodyrose042.jpg

Next, lay the template down, and mark around it. Do not forget to mark the hole for the trigger guard. http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/mew_mewaddict/?action=view&current=bloodyrose043.jpg
http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/mew_mewaddict/?action=view&current=bloodyrose044.jpg

Next, cut it out. Be careful and take your time. I went full speed on the jig saw on the straights and half speed on the corners giving me more control. Remember to cut out side the line so that if you need to you can sand in later. Also, watch the blade to make sure it's going where you want it to. When you come to the trigger guard, get a dril lbit larger than the saw and dril la hole in the middle of the trigger guard piece that needs to come out. Then, cut it out, taking your time tonot make any mistakes. You should have something like this now: http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/mew_mewaddict/?action=view&current=bloodyrose046.jpg
http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/mew_mewaddict/?action=view&current=bloodyrose047.jpg
http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/mew_mewaddict/?action=view&current=bloodyrose048.jpg

Next, is carving out the details. Like I mentioned earlier, I used a Dremel with a wood carving bit to add the details and give it depth. Just keep working at it until it's how you like. I ended up taking the 2X4 to a little over a inch thick, so get ready for a lot of carving. A few things to take note of, the sights should be recessed, as well as the hammer and trigger guard. Also, the slide is thicker than the rest of the gun except for at the grips. The grips wil probably be your widest point. Also, don't forget to add the chamber accent piece (don't know technical name, but it's on the right side of the gun [while you're holding it] and wraps around to the top). Also, round off the edges so that they are not sharp, mostly around the grip area so that it is more comfortable to hold.

After all that, this is what I got. I noticed a few parts after I took the pictures that are a bit wider than the rest and a few that are a little bit narrower. You have to looks close to realize it though. Just remember to keep working on it until it's where you like it.
http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/mew_mewaddict/?action=view&current=bloodyrose066.jpg
http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/mew_mewaddict/?action=view&current=bloodyrose067.jpg
http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/mew_mewaddict/?action=view&current=bloodyrose069.jpg
http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/mew_mewaddict/?action=view&current=bloodyrose068.jpg
http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/mew_mewaddict/?action=view&current=bloodyrose065.jpg
http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/mew_mewaddict/?action=view&current=bloodyrose070.jpg
http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/mew_mewaddict/?action=view&current=bloodyrose072.jpg

That's all I got so far. Like I said, I still haveto paint it and add the engraivings of the words (which are really gonna be engraved into the wood) and then i'll be done. For paint, I plan to use the slate grey and metallic silver again, but use the slate grey for pieces that would get more wear on a real gun to add to the effect. Also, I might be adding a trigger and drilling a hole into the front for the barrel. On top of all of that, if I have some stain lying around, i'm gonna stain the grips to add to the effect and make it more correct. Hopefully all of it will be done next week, so keep looking back for the final pictures.

Lovelychristina
12-22-2008, 01:03 AM
Thank you for the Tutorial O_O I needs it XD

natsuo
12-22-2008, 12:51 PM
thanks a ton!!!!

But actually, the bloody rose looks slightly different than the reference you gave.

mine looks like:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q233/_mara_jade_/bloodyrose.jpg

but otherwise, it helps me out a lot!!!!

cardboard is great for temporary props!

chris-chan
12-23-2008, 12:55 AM
I found a pic slightly like that, but what got me was the fact that it was fan drawn and not actual artwork from the show, which, as it turns out, is hard to come by.

natsuo
12-23-2008, 07:42 AM
yeah I see what you mean. I found an actual picture.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b148/Hermy_harry_1993/Zero_Kiryu_of_Matsuri_Hinos_Vampire.jpg

your outline was more accurate, but I think it's just the detail part above the trigger that was off.

Sorry for that ;(

Matsuo
12-24-2008, 03:08 PM
Say...Do you think there is engraving on both sides of the gun or just the left side...I cant find any pix of the right side.

M

natsuo
12-24-2008, 07:25 PM
I'm pretty sure it IS on both... but don't take my word for it.

chris-chan
12-30-2008, 08:45 PM
Actually, in one of the more recent episodes (I just got internet back, so I haven't downloaded the most recent, but) when Ichiru is holding the gun, you get a nice shot of the other side, and all it says is CROSSING right where it does on the other side. So, no, the Bloody Rose engraving is not on both sides, but the CROSSING is.

And yeah, I realize the piece on the slide over the trigger is off. I actually forgot to engrave it into my wooden one, and I honestly don't feel like going back and bringing everything down enough for it to stand out, so probabl later on down the line i'll cut it out of a piece of wood and attach it.

MaiSheri
01-05-2009, 01:49 AM
Now, with that out of the way, I would like to say mine is not the best. It was done in one day with stuff I had lying around, so it was rushed. Now, with that being said, for a rushed piece, even close to the camera, I think it photographs pretty well. Your's may look better than mine, or sadly, worse. All depends on how much effort you put into it.

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After it is all done, you should have something that closely (hopefully better) resembles this:

Something to keep in mind for future projects: when you're writing a tutorial, you'd better be able to actually produce a prop which doesn't clearly need improvement (whether you admit that or not). It hardly inspires confidence in your method.

That having been said, mentioning Featherweight does not change the fact that you are blatantly (and poorly) ripping off the work of a very good friend of mine.

For others looking to make any durable cardboard firearm, I can personally recommend this book. (http://www.lulu.com/content/2946945)

chris-chan
01-06-2009, 11:20 PM
I'll keep the first piece of advice in mind. And for the second piece, i'm not ripping off his work because he is not the first one and only one to do stuff in that way. I just said his way inspired me to do it the same way. If you look around, you'll see other people make props out of cardboard too. But honestly, he does probably the best i've seen.

Anime_Ej
02-06-2009, 08:56 PM
I finished mine, not that it looks any good...... but im kinda proud of it for an unknown reason.
http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww94/Anime_Ej/Picture0004.jpg
http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww94/Anime_Ej/Picture0002.jpg
Anyway, great tutorial.

danmeister
11-16-2009, 11:38 AM
I found a pic slightly like that, but what got me was the fact that it was fan drawn and not actual artwork from the show, which, as it turns out, is hard to come by.

The Vampire Knight manga books are on sale in quite a few UK bookshops, are they that hard to find in the US?

danmeister
11-16-2009, 11:42 AM
Actually, in one of the more recent episodes (I just got internet back, so I haven't downloaded the most recent, but) when Ichiru is holding the gun, you get a nice shot of the other side, and all it says is CROSSING right where it does on the other side. So, no, the Bloody Rose engraving is not on both sides, but the CROSSING is.

Thank you so much, I've been looking for this information for ages! :spinner: