View Full Version : why jrock?
07-21-2003, 01:47 PM
i am REALLY bored so i thought to start this thing. some people ask me how and why i started listening to jrock. i wanted to ask that question to someone else. so there ya go, how you got into it and why.
07-21-2003, 02:27 PM
I remembered someone say because it's not in English/from America...and that's really true. It's so interesting and addictive because it's nothing like what we see here marketed every day. The members are usually visually appealing, their PVs are 100x more appealing in my mind than those you see in America. It also seems like every bands got some story--X-Japan, Raphael, and Malice Mizer have deaths, and Diru serves much fanservice ^_-
You never see this kind of thing in America...and when you do, it's on the cover of "The Most Outrageously Worst Dressed Magazine"
07-21-2003, 02:54 PM
who is this diru you speak of? fanservice??
07-21-2003, 03:26 PM
Diru = Dir en grey
Ahh..really my reasons are much the same as those Kaede gave...I just..can't get into the American stuff the way I can j rock >_>...it's just more appealing to me *shrugs*
07-21-2003, 04:32 PM
diru=deg. god i feel soooo stupid. *starts shrinking in size* its like laruku...silly me
07-21-2003, 10:11 PM
It wafts over from my sisters room. I hear it by absorbtion....
07-22-2003, 12:08 AM
The answer is simple for me, I like the music ^^;; Of course there's visual attraction as well but the music is what got me first *shrug*. I just don't like American music that much.. Diru was the first band where I actually liked all or most of their songs ^_^
I actually got into J-Rock through Anime. The first time I ever heard X-Japan was when I watched that little X music video for CLAMP that was made before the movie. I absolutely loved the song "X" and went to find more stuff about X-Japan and at Otakon 2000, I bought one of their CDs and was hooked. After that, I gradually got into other J-Rock bands like Dir en grey and Malice Mizer etc. And then got into a number of Indies band and such.
I got into J-Rock first for the music and that's my priority with getting into bands. I wont' give an opinion on any band until I've actually heard the music, no matter what they look like. The whole visual thing is just an extra bonus in my opinion. I love visual kei and it's just so different from the stuff we see here and when combined with their wonderful music, it makes J-Rock just so amazing to me. I don't even really like that much American music anymore now that I've gotten into J-Rock.
I love their looks and have to admit that I really like the feminine visual look a lot of J-Rockers have at one time or another but the music is what counts to me. And their music just has something to it that I haven't found in any other type of music I've heard.
07-22-2003, 03:19 PM
Anime started it for me... I heard "Blurry Eyes" with the opening to DNA^2 and "X" and so many others... then my friend, who was incredibly obsessed with J-rock already, got me more into it.
For me, here are my reasons:
*The bands often are VERY passionate about their music and conveying a feeling... it touches my heart. ;P
*Most J-rock lyrics aren't as stupid as current music lyrics...
*They usually do have an interesting back story and a death or two in the group.
*Most of the bands consist of gorgeous, intelligent guys.
*The instrumentation and singing is so much more expressive than American music. Just try and find me an American comparison for Hide's voice or the rich playing in Malice Mizer.
*The energy... even their ballads are full of energy. Heh, I workout to my J-rock CDs. ^^;;
*It's just so fun and punkish... it's amusing and also serious at the same time. Sometimes, the more serious the musicians try to be, the funnier they become. ^^;;
07-22-2003, 10:10 PM
After AX '00 a friend I met there was showing me pictures of Mana.. and then sent me some Malice Mizer songs. o.o From there I discovered Dir en grey, T.M.Revolution, Shazna, and others. ^_^; But I'm not at all the Jrock fangirl I was a year or two ago.
07-23-2003, 04:45 AM
Ohhh I just heard about the JRock while looking around. I downloaded the stuff and got hooked. I have always been into Rock. But I do find JPop is also good unlike Western stuff. In moderation though.
But I find all I do listen now is JRock. Although i like to turn the radio on occassionally to my fave rock stsation. :P
I also love the visual thing. Visual is good.
07-23-2003, 09:28 AM
yay! people are responding :)
My friend Cryz got me hooked on Jrock. I prefer the older stuff (ie, Malice Mizer, X Japan), and even though I like Gackt, I'm very disapointed in his newer works. He's started to copy his older songs and 'pop-ize' them.
I don't like Jpop at all, though. I'll listen to it if it's an anime opening/ending, but I don't like the bands themselves. Especially Morning Musume. >_<!!!
Another thing I love is that Jrockers right their own music and lyrics. Look at Gackt, he wrote everything in his solo career by himself. American artists rarely do the same. Also, Jpoppers (wow, that sounded wrong) don't usually write their own songs. That's another reason I hate Jpop.
I end up listening to a ton of variety, though, as here in the Atlanta area we have a radio station that plays Jrock/Jpop/anime music/game music from 6-8 pm on Sundays. They even take requests, and give updates on local cons (AWA is the only one, though...XD), concerts, new albums/singles, top five albums/singles in Japan (the 8 Mile soundtrack-yes, that stupid Enenim movie-was the #1 album for three weeks one time), bands breaking up/forming, and more.
It's a lot of fun, and I tune in whenever I can.
If you happen to live in the Atlanta area, the station is 88.5 FM (the GSU station).
07-23-2003, 04:52 PM
thats sweet. i wish we had decent radio stations...everytime there is good programming it dissapears. i wonder if i can hear it in savannah when i go down there, that'd be nice.
anywayz, i'll guess i post why i like jrock but its pretty much the same thing that lyn said. i got into it cuz i stumbled across a web page explaining visual kei and it kept mentioning malice mizer and there were pics too and i was all oooo mana is pretty. so i d/l*ed "au revoir" and played it on a loop almost 24/7. i was that impressed (by that time i had given up on radio and the existence of decent rock music). that same website also had a link to amethyst purple which had songs in real audio format. that's where i got hooked on DeG.
i like it cuz of the music. yeah the pretty boiz make it all the better, but it's all about the talent. western bands all pretty much sound the same to me and the guitars just run together. w/ jrock you can actually hear the different instruments and--omg *heart attack*--the bass! also i like how all the vocalists don't sound the same
07-23-2003, 05:38 PM
I got into j-rock when I heard some songs at a convention, I asked who they were and got a dir en grey cd, right I only got one cd and a few downloads but im planning on getting more cds.
07-23-2003, 10:42 PM
I'm in the same boat as Lyn. I've been a long time fan of CLAMP, starting with thier manga RG Veda, and whilst abusing the net for more info on them, I came across X/1999, and in turn, X-Japan. I did a lil' research, and made my older brother track down one of their Cds, Dahlia (which is still, six and half years later, one of my favorite discs.) Then I found this GREAT website, which is sadly no longer updated called the Japanese Channel, which introduced me to tons more bands, like Raphael (another favorite of mine) and also Luna Sea, not to mention Diru, Malice Mizer, and lots more. X-Japan is to this day my favorite band.
Although, I have to ask about Duel Jewel. I heard they kick as- too...any one have any insight?
07-23-2003, 11:58 PM
well..I *just* DL my first Duel Jewel mp3 ..its Akatuski ..an I am loving it..I've got more going on kazaa right now...from what I've heard from friends an then hearing Akatsuki...I think they're really good :P
07-24-2003, 09:30 AM
yeah, duel jewel is pretty good. i heard the song "kizuna" and now i like them enuff that i refuse to d/l their second cd and wait till i can buy it.
i was so mad when i couldn't see them at katsucon. stupid snowstorm...i think there's a tear in my eye...anyone know if they're planning to make another US appearance next yr???
From what I've heard, they're going back to Japan for a while (probably at least a year or so) so they won't be doing anymore American appearances for a while. This is because, even though they're becoming popular amoungst the American J-Rock fans, they're almost unheard of in Japan. So, they're going to try to get to be a little bit more known over there first. At least that's what I've heard from people so I can't say that's official information though it makes sense to me.
I love Duel Jewel a lot. They quickly became one of my favorite J-Rock bands (X-Japan is still my all time fav though, along with Baiser, Lareine, Dir, Malice Mizer) and it was so awesome getting to see them live. Their music is really wonderful and I really want them to go places so I wish them luck in Japan.
07-24-2003, 07:05 PM
I got into it because of Anime, it started off with Anime music... then I started downloading some J-Pop... then my BF got me in to Malice Mizer and DEG and it grew from there
Originally posted by Ahem
Another thing I love is that Jrockers right their own music and lyrics. Look at Gackt, he wrote everything in his solo career by himself. American artists rarely do the same.
That's it, right there. American music is devoid of passion....which is ridiculous because every other word seems to be "love" yet there doesn't seem to be any of that in the songs.
Music isn't just singing. How many vocalists are the 'leaders' in j-rock bands? Except for those that have gone on to solo careers, this almost never happens. Music is the writing, the performance, the story, the costuming, the design. Even the editing. Not only do most j-rockers play their own instruments, but many play a multitude. J-rockers aren't just in this to make a living; they are truely artists. They're intelligent, dramatic, dedicated and have a pure sense of fun, which, no matter the tone of their music, is so obvious that someone not even from their culture such as myself can pick up on that.
What I enjoy most about the visual j-rock bands, too, is that they have a continuality in their story-telling. They all become characters and their personas are more important than their personal selves. And thankfully, those bands with the most solid and appealing music for me have also matured to be visually-unique.
(BTW, your avatar is cute ^_-)
07-25-2003, 02:44 AM
i got into japanese bands mainly because of the all female group SHOW-YA. they did the ending theme for cleopatra DC and had an interview in newtype magazine. and i was like "wow they are cool" so i started getting thier albums and then i kind of expanded from there. alot of it was hit and miss though since at the time there was no way for me to listen to the bands before i bought them. fortunately i didn;t get to many stinkers.
07-25-2003, 04:16 AM
I agree with everyone's point, even though, I am too silly to not come up with those.
I agree with Gackt too. His stuff... one song "Vanilla" sounded like Ricky Martin.... how puke worthy. Hehehe... most of his stuff is great though.
I was wondering if anyone here listens to Moi Dix Mois? Or do you all just stick to Malice Mizer? I really like Moi Dix Mois too... :D
07-25-2003, 09:48 AM
i do :)
07-25-2003, 10:25 AM
I luff Moi Dix Mois...sometimes tho...I could *swear* it's Gackt singing..Juka just..has that 'sound' ..it's kinda weird sometimes lol..but I like it ^^;;
I've only heard a little bit of Moi Dix Mois but I really like what I heard. I looove Forbidden. *_* Definently might consider getting a CD by them in the future....when I can afford it. ^^; Right now I'm still trying to get CDs of my favorite bands, espicially Baiser. Trying to save up money to get some of their stuff off of jpophelp.com some day.
07-25-2003, 07:29 PM
Originally posted by Moogle Hiromi
I was wondering if anyone here listens to Moi Dix Mois? Or do you all just stick to Malice Mizer? I really like Moi Dix Mois too... :D
i dont listen to malice mizer anymore, moi dix mois is much better.
i got into j music from my friend who owns an asian entertainment e-zine. he showed me the video yuuwaku by glay and since then i got hooked. my favorite band is luna sea
07-27-2003, 02:40 PM
I like japan.... I like rock music.... 'nuff said
07-28-2003, 09:24 PM
My friend first introduced jrock to me through X-japan..i instantly fell in love with the uniqueness it has over american music...which tends to be the same thing over and over..
07-28-2003, 11:31 PM
I was watching Australia Idol [you know like the one they have had everywhere else] and it just reminded me of why I like JRock. Then I explained to my mum, and she FINALLY sees my point. *gasp!* Once she asked why I don't listen to the Spice Girls.... blegh. But anyway, I can just see someone we have seen before winning, and yuk.
Plus, I like telling people about JRock and all this stuff with guys dressing as women. They don't get it. I think it is funny.
07-31-2003, 02:48 AM
I totally don't want to give you guys the wrong idea...I don't diss any music I don't know about...and I don't know much about J-rock but as for bands writing their own lyrics, try TOOL, Type O Negative, Stone Temple Pilots, The Ramones, Live, Megadeth, and any number of other American artists that AREN'T pop...And as for lyrics meaning something liek I said, try those bands and see if you connect before you write off our hometeam stars...we just don't give enough play to the right bands
07-31-2003, 10:47 AM
as for me they're a couple bands i like that aren't japanese but i don't have the energy to keep up with decent indie bands to find new bands that i like. i do like tool, queens of the stone age, and placebo (wait they're british, but oh well).
07-31-2003, 08:47 PM
I dont quite remember how I got into j-rock...I think i was just online and I ran across some Malice Mizer songs and started to download them off KaZaA and I liked it, also I found some PVs too which really got me into it, so yeah thats how I got into J-Rock ^-^
07-31-2003, 09:48 PM
The jock rock concert at AX 2k3 converted me.
07-31-2003, 10:24 PM
BondagePenguin: I know these bands write their own stuff. I do listen to these artist too sometimes. [y'see one of my fave bands is silverchair -- oi oi.] But there is something different about JRock. Their sounds, and visuals. It has caught on with us, and we may prefer it to other stuff. Meh.
08-30-2003, 05:02 PM
i got into J-Rock because of the visual kei aspect. ....obviously. i mean, come on, let's not kid ourselves, this is a cosplay site right? heheh They look fantastic and push that fashion envelope. but the music quite often comes second. i got seduced into the music as an after effect of the visual appeal, which is the insidious, intent afterall. I have been playing some of the darker harder bands like blam honey, despairsray and some of the better dir en grey and malice mizer tunes on my little internet radio show and i am even starting a j-rock/cosplay clubnight. so don't take this the wrong way, i like it too, but only to a point. even i find some of it really is unlistenable. especially after few hours. and it is not like the sound is new or groundbreaking, most of the influence is from various american and euro metal/ punk/ industrial/goth genres. it's just "japanized" and given a shocking visual edge.
08-31-2003, 12:34 AM
I got into J-rock originally from anime. I listened to anime music which lead to J-pop, then the J-pop lead to J-rock. My friend was obsessed with Malice Mizer and she sent me a song by them ("Illuminati" XD) and I thought it was pretty good, but I still preferred J-pop. Then one day I discovered a Japanese neighbor has the Merveilles concert video and offered to let me borrow it. I accepted it because I knew my friend would die to see it. I watched it with her and the visuals and passion in the whole performance got me hooked. Since then I've discovered and fallen in love with other bands such as Dir en Grey (current obsession), Baroque, Moi Dix Mois, X-Japan, hide, etc. ^_^ I've almost completely lost interest in American bands. Japanese rock is just so unique and interesting. I've stopped listening to almost all pop too. o.O Exception being Hamasaki Ayumi. Er, end of rant. ^^;
08-31-2003, 05:07 PM
As long as the thread's been reawakened...
It was the visual aspect that made me take notice of Japanese music. I was visiting a friend in Japan and became intrigued by the style the Harajuku kids had. Their image seemed to have elements of glam metal and goth style, and since I sorta liked both those styles I thought I'd check out what the Japanese kids were listening to. The most popular band name they were sporting was Luna Sea (it was 1995), so I bought "Image" and was hooked 30 seconds into "Dejavu". I hadn't heard music that captivated me so in 5 years. After Nirvana and Pearl Jam became big the sound of ALL rock music changed in a way I didn't like. Even bands in other genres were using different scales, different vocal techniques, and back-to-basics arrangements. I guess a lot of people enjoy that but it never had any appeal for me... So there was a big musical void in my heart waiting to be filled, and visual kei stepped right in.