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maskedrose
09-19-2010, 10:13 PM
and fabric suggestions? I'm sure certain fabrics and colors were not available....

Ironhill
09-20-2010, 12:29 AM
You might want to try Reconstructing History. They have good patterns based on historical clothing with footnotes on their research sources. Also, their patterns go into the larger sizes which is a plus for me. 8) They are a little expensive though.

Satine
09-20-2010, 08:59 PM
Anything in particular? Are you after a particular style, medieval covers quite a variety of eras and countries :) Even if you have a painting or movie you like the style of it can probably be used as a stepping stone to an historically accurate style :)

maskedrose
09-20-2010, 11:51 PM
No, I really don't have a particular style in mind - just looking for inspiration.. (yes, I am aware of the eras, countries etc.. I've taken some medieval literature classes in college, but I am at a lost when it comes to the clothing)I suppose I'm looking for something European..

I just know that the 'popular' style was a basic dress with a slit down the center to reveal a usually colorful/embroidered pattern, and the bodice was laced up the back... and I guess early medieval would have been greek-like clothing(not so interested in that) but I don't want too frilly like the renaissance..(or maybe I do?) but then again every one in the medieval thought they were in the renaissance but I suppose there is only one 'real' renaissance time period..

http://butterick.mccall.com/b4571-products-4846.php?page_id=385

I've currently got my eye on this though I am skeptical of it.
*babbles on*

TR Rose
09-21-2010, 09:32 AM
I've looked at this site before for basic ideas on how to make simple pieces, and their reviews on commercial patterns. Seems to be quite useful, and I've been back many times to see their opinions on the new patterns that come out.

http://reddawn.net/costume/patterns.htm

http://reddawn.net/costume/costpat.htm

maskedrose
09-21-2010, 01:00 PM
I've looked at this site before for basic ideas on how to make simple pieces, and their reviews on commercial patterns. Seems to be quite useful, and I've been back many times to see their opinions on the new patterns that come out.

http://reddawn.net/costume/patterns.htm

http://reddawn.net/costume/costpat.htm

TY, very useful!!!

Satine
09-21-2010, 06:35 PM
The pattern looks far more renaissance than anything else and what you describe would be more like renaissance :)

Most medieval was built around a cote which started as a fairlt shapeless sack like garment then became more fitted.
http://www.damehelen.com/
This is nice, I made a pretty fitted gown using the 10 gore method.
http://www.wodefordhall.com/surcote.htm
Pretty sideless surcoat which was an iconic part of the latter medieval period.
http://www.cottesimple.com/
The four part gown.

The other end would be with a Bliaut, which is gorgeous.
http://medievalweddingdresses.ideasforweddings.net/making-medieval-wedding-dresses/bliaut-pattern/
Actually not too bad for a pattern- all the patterns seem to come from different sources though... I'd like to track down where all of them came from.
http://www.chateau-michel.org/bliaut_layout.htm
And a different style.

http://www.sca.org.au/tailors/early_tunics-houppes.html
And more simple layouts, this time with references to where they came from :)


Otherwise if you are wanting the split skirt you'll be looking at Tudor, French and Flemish styles of the early 16thC.

maskedrose
09-21-2010, 07:26 PM
Hmm this is true. Maybe I do have my eye on the Tutor-esque.. but that was also around the time of the early underbust corsets, right?

MythrilDragon
09-24-2010, 02:54 PM
Simplicity also has some costume patterns; I saw this one (http://www.simplicity.com/p-2201-costumes.aspx) that had some dresses that are definitely inspired by the LotR movies (seemed to be an Arwen dress and I think two Eowyn dresses) and this one (http://www.simplicity.com/p-2621-costumes.aspx) that I was tempted to purchase myself but wouldn't have had it done in time for the Ft. Tryon Park medieval festival next weekend (is that by any chance what yours is for?) because I'm still working on my NYCC/NYAF cosplay for the following week. Maybe next year I'll get to do a LotR or Narnia cosplay for the fair :rolleyes:
I know these probably aren't really historically accurate medieval costumes, but they're still pretty. Good luck!

Brsis
09-24-2010, 04:09 PM
Hmm this is true. Maybe I do have my eye on the Tutor-esque.. but that was also around the time of the early underbust corsets, right?

I've never come across a Tudor underbust - they were pairs of bodies back then, not corsets per se and certainly don't seem to be as long lined as a Victorian corset, but every reference I have has shoulder straps.

This (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Costume-1066-Present-Complete-English/dp/0500286027/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1285358451&sr=1-1) is a really good little book for when you know what you're thinking of but not what period it comes in. It's more or less restricted to Britain - or rather England - from 1066 onwards and has no colour reference and very little text, but it's a good starting point when you need to find what date you're talking about for the shape or design you're interested in. It also shows the evolution of designs quite neatly and covers men AND women, which is a nice touch.

Sarah is happy
01-20-2011, 11:55 PM
I love 15th century clothing! Well okay, maybe mostly just the headwear...the clothes got a lot harder to make after the 1300s ended.... o_o;
I don't know much about Tudor period, but 15th century was mostly low cut dresses, and they were really fancy of course (i'm so descriptive :D). There's one book I have called Medieval Costume in England and France: The 13th, 14th and 15th Centuries and it has seperate sections on commoners, nobles, and ecclesiastical garb.
Hope that helps! Good luck ^_^

Annwyn
01-21-2011, 01:00 AM
Reconstructing History and Period Patterns are great. The popular ones like Simplicity and Butterick often have medieval-y and renaissance-y patterns. Their seams are rarely in the right places for period, but that just depends on how period accurate you want to get.

Here are a few popular styles to type into google images to help you get started deciding which period you want to go for:
cotehardie - the tight-fitted medieval gown everyone sees in Pre-Raphaelite paintings, 14th century
bliaut - 12th century, Eowyn's shieldmaiden dress was modeled after this style
kirtle - 15th century, started similar to cotehardie and then evolved
Burgundian - 15th century, this is what those pointy princess hats are modeled after
Tudor - tons of stuff exists on this period, no underbust though, that's much later
Venetian or Italian Renaissance - this might be what you're thinking of with the slit up the front, they were often laced or slit in the front with an underlayer showing

There are so many more, but I think those are all good and close to what you're looking for!

If you want to go Tudor/Elizabethan, this website is amazing: http://www.elizabethancostume.net/

sephygoth
03-15-2011, 08:58 PM
Not patterns, but you might be able to replicate with a few projects from "Design Toscano" if you want some nicer ideas to flow through your blood. I use to subscribe to them like 15 yrs ago, but things change .... internet for one XD