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Ribii-chan
10-03-2010, 05:58 PM
So this probably exists somewhere and I will deal with being yelled at if it does >_>

I am planning at some point to cosplay either Suki or an OC Kyoshi warrior from Avatar the Last Airbender. What I'm wondering is what I should used to construct the armor:

http://tvmedia.ign.com/tv/image/article/849/849589/avatarsuki_1202229592.jpg
http://i28.tinypic.com/zmkxhv.jpg
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090321125726/avatar/images/thumb/6/60/Mai_as_Kyoshi_Warrior.png/250px-Mai_as_Kyoshi_Warrior.png
http://piandao.org/screencaps/ep4/ep4-588.png (back)

All I know at this point is that I don't want to use fabric to make it. I have minute experience with craft foam (Soi Fon's Suzumebachi), and I've come across the really good craft foam tutorial floating around. But is wonderflex or something else easier to work with/more durable/etc? Any suggestions?

catfetus
10-03-2010, 07:44 PM
I would say craft foam. That seems to be what most people use for Kyoshi warrior armor. Have you seen the girl's tutorial about how she painted hers with brown and black shoe polishes to make them look more leathery?

On the topic of leather, that is why I would say you don't want to use Wonderflex. Wonderflex would be stronger, but to me it seems that their armor is supposed to be a leather or very thick/tough cloth material. Wonderflex would end up very rigid and wouldn't give you as much of that "real leather" movement or feel.
But if you think that it is supposed to be more of a metal or rigid armor then consider Wonderflex (it's been too long since I have seen the show, I forget what it moves like in action).

There is also the fact that craft foam is a lot cheaper than Wonderflex.

AnnbuxMzLazy
10-03-2010, 08:49 PM
I agree with catfetus whole post. Craft foam seems reasonable to use. Something like this perhaps? http://binkycrafts.com/shop/images/CPT%2080256L.jpg this isn't really a "leather looking brown though" so maybe you might want to lightly spray paint it a darker brown/ black

if you were going to put the pieces together, I'd say sew it by hand cause a lot of stitches in it could rip it / puncture it. I've tried glue on craft foam before and I have to say it's not the best thing to do LOL (well it was just school glue so I wouldn't know if super glue or something like that is better maybe adhesive?)!

Ribii-chan
10-03-2010, 11:05 PM
Thanks to both of you ^^

I've never used Wonderflex, so I was just wondering about it. I would assume that it doesn't want to be stiff since the Kyoshis fight hand-to-hand mostly so would prolly wanna move.... And I'm a tad bit of an accuracy hoe so I'd want to actually be able to move O_O

Annbu--I hear you on the school glue. I think Suzumebachi only stays together because of the like 5 layers of glue/acrylic paint/modpodge covering it lol. It's actually starting to come apart because I was sweating really bad the last time I wore it so the modpodge started melting. I'll likely invest in something non-water soluble for this lol

catfetus
10-04-2010, 01:09 AM
Thanks to both of you ^^

I've never used Wonderflex, so I was just wondering about it. I would assume that it doesn't want to be stiff since the Kyoshis fight hand-to-hand mostly so would prolly wanna move.... And I'm a tad bit of an accuracy hoe so I'd want to actually be able to move O_O

Annbu--I hear you on the school glue. I think Suzumebachi only stays together because of the like 5 layers of glue/acrylic paint/modpodge covering it lol. It's actually starting to come apart because I was sweating really bad the last time I wore it so the modpodge started melting. I'll likely invest in something non-water soluble for this lol
I think hot glue is the standard way to go for attaching craft foam to anything/everything.

~Haku~
10-04-2010, 01:56 AM
If you're trying to make it look leathery, would you consider using leather?
If you look around, you might be able to find some place that sells bulk or scrap supplies at wholesale prices. Flea markets are awesome places to scour.

Ribii-chan
10-04-2010, 09:52 AM
If you're trying to make it look leathery, would you consider using leather?
If you look around, you might be able to find some place that sells bulk or scrap supplies at wholesale prices. Flea markets are awesome places to scour.

If I can find enough of it that wouldn't be too expensive, I might. I will keep the flea market thing in mind! If I can't tho, I could always mimic the effect with vinyl..

catfetus
10-04-2010, 11:34 AM
If I can find enough of it that wouldn't be too expensive, I might. I will keep the flea market thing in mind! If I can't tho, I could always mimic the effect with vinyl..
I'm making a belt right now that's supposed to be leathery, so I'm just doing it in craft foam and covering/wrapping the foam in Vinyl. I bet that would look really cool with the Kyoshi armor.

harmonyisarine
10-04-2010, 01:41 PM
Just a tip on where to find good amounts of good leather for decent prices (I've not made armor yet, though, good luck on that!): If there's a Tandy Leather store nearby, check there now and again. They have sales sometimes that are seriously good deals. We got two pieces of rather nice leather, each one was half a cow, for $40 a piece. That amount would be more than enough for Kyoshi Warrior Armor. This way you can also pick your dye/finish.

Ribii-chan
10-04-2010, 01:51 PM
Just a tip on where to find good amounts of good leather for decent prices (I've not made armor yet, though, good luck on that!): If there's a Tandy Leather store nearby, check there now and again. They have sales sometimes that are seriously good deals. We got two pieces of rather nice leather, each one was half a cow, for $40 a piece. That amount would be more than enough for Kyoshi Warrior Armor. This way you can also pick your dye/finish.

Wow.. I don't know much about leather, but that sounds pretty legit o_O lol Might be able to get to the one in Ft Wayne at some point... (No car at college, you see...) Thanks!



Thanks for your input guys~ I'm really exicted for this now lol

harmonyisarine
10-04-2010, 05:21 PM
Wow.. I don't know much about leather, but that sounds pretty legit o_O lol Might be able to get to the one in Ft Wayne at some point... (No car at college, you see...) Thanks!

Tandy Leather is awesome, and very legit. If there's not a store around you, they also have a website that usually has a sale of some sort. It's how my NJ friend gets his supplies (Tandy Leather isn't allowed in NJ and a few other states just cause they're leather, even though they don't do the tanning in house and practice sustainable collection methods).

Good luck!

MythrilDragon
10-04-2010, 10:47 PM
I used a pretty flexible and not-so-thick upholstery vinyl for the armor when I made it, and despite giving me a few problems initially, it's actually working really awesomely now :toothy:

Korinchan
10-05-2010, 12:00 AM
I used craft foam for my armor. If you paint it and age it a bit, it can end up looking just like leather. It's definitely a cheaper alternative to keep in mind. Hot glue is super effective for well...gluing craft foam together. You can also try using E6000. It's absurdly strong adhesive.

Ribii-chan
10-05-2010, 10:44 PM
Thanks both of you! :D I'm probably not going to get to this costume for a few, so we'll see how prices play out then. I might grab some when I get Org13 coat vinyl when next it's on sale/I'm in town >_>

Korin-- your armor looks amazing. I may have to hit you up for help later lol

ChibiInuTsuzuki
10-16-2010, 10:04 AM
We had a very different method for my Suki armor. We wanted it to look as realistic and functional as possible since we wanted to dress the costume up a bit. We made each facet of the armor with indivdual pieces. We took priority mailing envelopes as a base since it was rigid yet flexible at the same time. We wrapped each piece of cardboard with a light weight pleather and held it in place with hot glue. we then inserted eyelets into key points and strung the pieces together with leather roping, over lapping the slats slightly to make a full piece of armor. then each piece of armor was backed with a heavy weight felt to keep the slats from seperating. then each one was laced together to connect all the pieces.

http://manga.about.com/od/conventionphotogallerie1/ig/NYCC-NYAF-2010-Gallery/NYCC-10---Avatar-Cosplay.htm

Ribii-chan
10-17-2010, 08:20 PM
Tsuzuki--

You construction was basically how I was planning to go. I never would have thought to use mailing envelopes tho, but I'm definitely going to keep that in mind.

godsavethequeen
10-23-2010, 07:45 PM
Here is how we did our Kyoshi Warrior Suki armor. This was based on a fan art (http://shibamura-prime.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d2tu8wb), so we have V-shaped panels instead of straight across ones, but the general principles are still the same.

As mentioned by a few other people in the thread, leather can give you a very nice, realistic look - so, that is what we used. All the materials (veg tanned leather, dye, stamps, rivets, rivet anvil set, hole punch, edge beveler, grommets, suede cord) were purchased at Tandy. I don't recall the exact square footage (around 10 sq ft perhaps?) on the leather, but we did use a fairly large hide (not a shoulder) and had a little left over.

I started by making a paper mockup on a mannequin that was close to the measurements of my friend dressing up as Suki.

http://pics.livejournal.com/gstqfashions/pic/000d67ca/s640x480

After that, I cut out the leather, used a beveler (http://www.tandyleatherfactory.com/search/searchresults/8076-296.aspx?feature=Product_1&kw=beveler) to give it a nice edge, then assigned the task of stamping (http://www.tandyleatherfactory.com/search/searchresults/46102-00.aspx?feature=Product_3&kw=stamp) a nice design into the top of each segment it to my friend. After she got the designs on there, we riveted (http://www.tandyleatherfactory.com/search/site+search+results.aspx?sectionpath=3&processor=content&p_keyword=double+cap+rivets) all the pieces together. As you can see in the photo below, we installed grommets on the sides and the very top of the full panels. We later laced suede cord though the grommets.

http://pics.livejournal.com/gstqfashions/pic/000d7s1t/s640x480

After they were riveted together, we shaped the leather by wetting it down with a spray bottle, holding in the shape we wanted, and drying it with a blowdryer. This helped shape the bust area a lot, which was important to avoid uni-boob. After that, it was dyed with Eco-Flow Water Based Dye in Cocoa Brown. However, we did end up riveting an extra strap to the inside of the armor, under the bust, that helps pull it in even more.

http://images.cosplay.com/photos/27/2709030.jpg

Hope this helps!