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Ekala
10-17-2010, 07:42 PM
I kind of posted this over on Sewing & Fabric a while ago but then I found this so... reposting over here for more expert opinions or something. ^^;;

I am completely new to making costumes (vs. buying things) so please bear with me. and long, detailed answers are most appreciated.

so my first questions:
- what kind of pattern would be the easiest to modify? I've heard of both hoodie patterns and flared coat patterns being used; maybe if I figured out how to combine the two?
- what type of fabric would all of you experienced people suggest? I don't really know the first thing about fabric... something thicker would be best, right? Since I am planning to wear this during summer conventions, though, it'd be best if it wasn't... fleece or something.
- I'm not planning to do claws, so could I simply use a lining in the sleeves to stuff them (and would it be plausible to put some sort of hole in the sleeves like Kokonoe's so when I want to use my hands I can?) (also what kind of fabric is good for lining whatever fabric recommended above. >>;;)
- I'm really hoping to do a very spherical mask-type thing for Tao's face (my more electrical-saavy friends are helping me get an LED face that will have emotions!) but I'm not sure what kind of base I could use. I do have a ninja hood (oh, halloween) that I'll use to hide the rest of my head in whatever hood I rig but I'm not sure what I could use otherwise...
- good idea, bad idea: making little kitten plushies to carry around with me?

SORRY so many questions but I'd really like to get as many opinions as possible on... everything before I start trying to actually get stuff. ^^;;; thanks in advance for everyone's help!

R1KKu
10-17-2010, 09:29 PM
-Probably a flared coat pattern. You can draw up a hood pattern to fit it.

-I see many people use fleece for the costume, but if you're in a warm/hot climate, its probably not the best choice. I went with a twill fabric because its a comfy fabric for the crazy Chicago weather, I love how it flows, and its not super expensive (and Ive become a twill addict)..

- You could put an opening in the sleeves. It makes things so much easier, let me tell you. Best to put it on the seam of the sleeve, and you can either leave it open or put a zipper there. There is fabric specifically for lining (its normally labeled 'lining'). You can find it for around $3 a yard.

- Not sure what to tell ya bout the mask. I made mine outta Rigid Wrap and paper clay..formed it over a ball. I can go into more detail if you might be interested. PM me for that.

-Good idea. I was thinking about doing this myself, but it might be hard to hold with ginormous claws, lol.

SpicyNekoChan
10-19-2010, 03:10 AM
I'm using Velvet with Felt interfacing and a Polyester liner. So far its turning out pretty good. I actually used a mustard colored faux suede to make the paw pads and such, and stitched black velvet for the black parts on the paws, and claw slits. Downside though is that Velvet is a little bit expensive, especially if you line and interface it.

I actually used the suede and made a zipper pattern that velcro's over the real zipper underneath. I still haven't made the fake paw looking zipper piece that i'm just going to stitch onto the neck area.

I put an invisible zipper along the paws kind of so that it can open like kokonoe's paws, so i can poke my hands out, but i actually put velcro a little bit inside the zipper too, that way i can just velcro the holes shut, and only zip it up if i need the paws to look really seamless, like photoshoots or something.

I still haven't stitched the ears on in the picture, but its actually craft foam thats been wrapped in felt so that it can hold its shape. I guess i have to do a little bit of wiring for it too since i installed a solenoid so the ears can twitch.

I haven't wrapped the mask in black velvet yet, which is probably a good thing, lol. You can see all the cuts that i made to bend the wonderflex and make a bowl shaped face. The red lenses... i destroyed a pair of snowboarding goggles for, lol, and installed EL-wire in between the clear and red lens so that i can flip a switch for 0_0 or >_< eyes lol. I actually put a little aluminum foil pieces behind the EL-wire though because i tried turning it on while wearing it and OMG so bright, lol. The mutilated snowboarding goggle is actually what holds the mask onto my face, lol. The cushions and strap for it came in handy, plus it won't fog from me breathing because the cushions go around my eyes.

The smile, its actually a 3D smile, lol. The teeth are made of paper clay thats been colored to a pearly white. Then they were hot glued onto wonderflex, and the parts between the teeth were painted black, and the teeth were sealed so they wouldn't scratch. Its going to velcro onto the mask so that i carry around multiple mouths.

The tail is actually a combination of stretch black velvet, and the velvet i used for the jacket. I just used polyfill to stuff the tail, its so squishy i'm going to die, lol.

I bought 8 sets of hair extensions to make the braids, i have to make the holes for the braid and the tail still.

I guess i made mine more like a hooded jacket instead of a hoody because in my head i thought that the outfit would sit a little better that way.

Heres a link (http://fav.me/d3128vn) for my WIP if your curious about some of it.

Ekala
10-19-2010, 09:09 AM
@R1KKu: Twill, hm? I've heard a lot about it but I'm not sure it's thick enough for what I want. I'll check it out though. :3
I hadn't heard about Rigid Wrap either but that sounds like some pretty awesome stuff.
+ flared coat, + opening, + plushies. awesome.

@Spicy: Velvet and polyester? Doesn't that get a little warm (especially in conspace?) Sounds pretty comfy though... Was the interfacing what you used in the sleeves or are they just stuffed? (They look a little smoother than most versions I've seen.)
Wonderflex, EL Wire, snowboarding goggles, fancy fancy. haha. xP (I do love the ideas though, and it looks awesome. :3)
8 sets!? That seems like an awful lot, but what kind of extensions are you using?
+ jacket, + openings.

couple of questions for both of you:
- how's the ventilation in both of your masks? that's really the thing I'm most worried about, I think - all my friends are saying I'll suffocate inside something like wonderflex or whatnot.
- I was also poking around in materials and I was thinking about trying to get some sweatshirt-type material (except without the fleece on one side, though I have no idea what that would be called) - do you think that would work well?
- It looks like you both made fake zippers for the "main" zipper piece - what do you both think about the giant zippers from orgxiii.org? They look handy but I'm not sure how functional they'd be or if I'd just be better off making a fake zipper as well.
- Lastly - what did you use for stuffing (sleeves/tail/whatever)? Just... regular stuffing? Polyfill? ...is there a difference? xP

Sorry for my incessant questions. ^^;;; Thanks for your responses though! I love both your costumes. x3

SpicyNekoChan
10-19-2010, 05:19 PM
well, the polyester is the liner type polyester so its extremely thin. The velvet, its i guess about like denim jeans, its made of cotton. The interfacing i used is what makes it a little warm, because i used felt for interfacing, lol. I should have used something thinner i guess, but its not any warmer then one of my jackets so, its not too bad. I've actually seen the orange Org XIII zipper, and theirs a cosplayer who used one, but i guess i wanted everything plushy like, so i made a fake zipper using suede and velvet, lol. But i know the org XIII zipper does work, and its long enough too.

I guess the mask ventilation isn't the best, lol. I'm wearing a huge piece of plastic over my face. Since i'm going to be velvet wrapping it though, i could punch some holes in it if i really wanted too, to make it like a mesh screen, but i guess its not unbearably bad to me.

I ordered 8 sets of extensions because i wasn't sure how thick they were, and i was going to 2 strand fingerloop braid over american braid the extensions. It makes the braid a more square shape, i figured it was closer to the concept art look. I just bought 48" extensions from Doctor Locks, ash blond.

The sleeves, actually, they have the velvet on the outside, then they have a layer of felt inside of that, then the felt was stuffed with polyfil (Polyester stuffing) so that it would hold its plushiness, then i lined the inside of the paws with the polyester lining so that my hands could slide around inside comfortably. The jacket is actually a full sleeve jacket that was made with liner on the inside and outside. The paws kind of are stitched onto the sleeves, and all the way up to the arms, so its almost like i'm wearing a really long glove over the sleeves, and its permanently stitched on. I guess i did this so that i can slide my hands in and out of the sleeves pretty easily since liner is extremely slick. I should have probably taken a picture of the paws before i attached them onto the jacket, but i guess the best way for me to say it is, its kind of like a hand puppet that goes all the way up to the shoulders, lol.

I'm not sure but i think the fabric your thinking of is Velour. They make things like plush bath robes out of it, lol.

All the stuffed parts are polyfil, its just a name of Polyester stuffing, but i guess they also have bamboo, cotton, etc. I just know Polyfil is washable and doesn't mold, lol. Polyfil was basically the smallest bag i found at Joann's because i only needed a little bit.

R1KKu
10-19-2010, 08:59 PM
@R1KKu: Twill, hm? I've heard a lot about it but I'm not sure it's thick enough for what I want. I'll check it out though. :3
I hadn't heard about Rigid Wrap either but that sounds like some pretty awesome stuff.
+ flared coat, + opening, + plushies. awesome.

couple of questions for both of you:
- how's the ventilation in both of your masks? that's really the thing I'm most worried about, I think - all my friends are saying I'll suffocate inside something like wonderflex or whatnot.
- I was also poking around in materials and I was thinking about trying to get some sweatshirt-type material (except without the fleece on one side, though I have no idea what that would be called) - do you think that would work well?
- It looks like you both made fake zippers for the "main" zipper piece - what do you both think about the giant zippers from orgxiii.org? They look handy but I'm not sure how functional they'd be or if I'd just be better off making a fake zipper as well.
- Lastly - what did you use for stuffing (sleeves/tail/whatever)? Just... regular stuffing? Polyfill? ...is there a difference? xP

Sorry for my incessant questions. ^^;;; Thanks for your responses though! I love both your costumes. x3

The twill is pretty comfy, and since it's cotton, it breathes fairly well. I found out earlier this year that wearing it in the humidity is a whole 'nother story. >.< Just make sure you look around at fabrics, get a feel for them, and pick something that would work for both the costume and the weather in your area. If you're working with a commercial pattern, check out some of the recommended fabrics; it might help or at least point you in the right direction.

Rigid Wrap is a gauzy fabric covered in plaster (think of a cast when you break a bone). You wet it and form it over shapes. It dries and hardens, holding that shape. Michael's should carry it.

- The ventilation in my mask is lacking, but i also wear a balaclava to hide my neck and give that "all black" illusion there. I dont leave it on for long. Ive thought of putting a small portable fan in my hood to help with that.

-Sweatshirt material might work....not something Id consider to make a coat out of though. If you're costume ends up becoming pretty heavy (like mine) a stretch fabric is not ideal.

-I made my own "zipper" because her zipper looked ginormous in the reference images I went off of. It was pretty time consuming though. There's an actual zipper behind that. The Org. zippers aren't bad, but they're not as big and dont give the right illusion of those really huge teeth. If you want to take the easy route, by all means, use the zipper.

-I used this filling called Cluster Stuff (Walmart). It doesnt clump up and leave weird bumps like some of the other fillings. I have little "pillows" inside my paws that are filled with the stuff , otherwise Id have it all over my hands and falling out my sleeves.

awsugar
01-20-2011, 01:30 PM
Hi all!
I was thinking of making Tao's cosplay too.. and thanks to everything you said I'm starting to get some idea of how to make it.. I was really lost on how to make the paws and so.. because it's my first time at sewing a costume so.. I hope I can make it...
does someone have a drawn pattern of the costume for some guidance? I'm pretty lost still... I'm just taking some measurments right now

playmysitardemy
01-26-2011, 08:50 PM
I'm wondering about the mask. Did people need an escort when wearing it? I've heard some people do LEDs for the eyes, how did you see?

ShadowDrac
01-27-2011, 12:12 AM
I didn't use the LEDs and I STILL needed a handler. XD Actually, I had three most of the time. One to part the sea of people (darn hotel-based convention), one to lead me, and one in the back. Without them, I would have been helpless wearing that mask- and I could see better than some Tao's, by what I've read.

awsugar- In the main BlazBlue thread, a few people posted different ways to pattern Tao's sleeves. You'll have to search for them, though. I'm not sure where they are.

playmysitardemy
01-27-2011, 01:54 AM
I didn't use the LEDs and I STILL needed a handler. XD Actually, I had three most of the time. One to part the sea of people (darn hotel-based convention), one to lead me, and one in the back. Without them, I would have been helpless wearing that mask- and I could see better than some Tao's, by what I've read.

awsugar- In the main BlazBlue thread, a few people posted different ways to pattern Tao's sleeves. You'll have to search for them, though. I'm not sure where they are.

I wasn't assuming that it was only people who used LEDs, but just about the mask in general. I guess I might need a group if I decide this costume.

R1KKu
01-28-2011, 08:02 AM
I'm wondering about the mask. Did people need an escort when wearing it? I've heard some people do LEDs for the eyes, how did you see?

I usually kept my mask off when walking around; 1. so I dont impale anyone with my claws 2. because my mask doesnt breathe well.

Its easy to see with the lights on. Mine aren't that bright to begin with. If its dark though, I cant see with the lights on, but I have the controls running down to my hand, so there's no problem with turning them on/off.

SpicyNekoChan
02-01-2011, 01:59 AM
I modified a ski goggle with a red lens to hold the mask onto my head, but... i've discovered the importance of airholes because i almost passed out when i was jumping around, lol. I'm actually going to punch some holes into the mouth area of the mask, then wrap it in vinyl again. No holes sort of made the lenses fog up so i couldn't see too well anymore, and more importantly, couldn't breath, lol. But ski goggle lenses and the ski goggle strap work great for holding a mask onto your head.

As for making light up eyes that didn't blind me, i used El-wire instead of LED's, but i put aluminum foil behind the El-wire so that it wouldn't shine directly into my eyes, and glued the foil in place.

I made my outfit out of Velvet because i figured it would look a little better then fleece. I've heard of people using twill also. I just used standard polyester lining though, but i interfaced the jacket with felt, and it held its shape really well but, it got pretty warm. If i were to make it again, i'd probably go with a silk lining, and a thinner interface material, but stick with the velvet because it seemed to have a nice look and weight to it.

secretsof2113
02-01-2011, 11:24 AM
I ended up making my jacket out of fleece, and being that most of the cons I do are in the colder weather, it fits well, and I don't get super hot in it. Maybe that's because of leg exposure under the jacket. That airflow tends to keep me cool enough. I used one of the sleeve patterns that was posted up for a Kokonoe costume to make mine, however, I modified it so the sleeves didn't have holes. Kind of wishing I made holes now.

As far as my mask goes, I do have LED's in them to light up the eyes. I need to go through and rewire them so the battery packs will fit in my sleeves, instead of being right near my face. I had electrical tape on the lights so they would shine out and not blind me. I can also see very well out of my mask. It's a hard mesh/tulle material that I can see out of, but people can't see in.

playmysitardemy
02-01-2011, 01:14 PM
I ended up making my jacket out of fleece, and being that most of the cons I do are in the colder weather, it fits well, and I don't get super hot in it. Maybe that's because of leg exposure under the jacket. That airflow tends to keep me cool enough. I used one of the sleeve patterns that was posted up for a Kokonoe costume to make mine, however, I modified it so the sleeves didn't have holes. Kind of wishing I made holes now.

As far as my mask goes, I do have LED's in them to light up the eyes. I need to go through and rewire them so the battery packs will fit in my sleeves, instead of being right near my face. I had electrical tape on the lights so they would shine out and not blind me. I can also see very well out of my mask. It's a hard mesh/tulle material that I can see out of, but people can't see in.

Pics of it?

CosmosFox
02-02-2011, 01:17 PM
I didn't make a Taokaka cosplay but a Torakaka cosplay but they're pretty similar ^_^ I made the whole outfit out of antipill fleece and lined the sleeves so that I can stuff them nicely and yet not have to worry about having my hands being surrounded by polyfill. I modified my sleeves to have zippers on the side that are invinsible so that I can unzip my hands from the inside with no problem (I hope that made sense XD).
The mask is made from a black wife beater I had and I just made it into a mask. I used LED lights for the eyes and I just eyed magnets to stick them onto the mask so later on I can wash the mask i the wash without worrying about the lights since they come off ^_^ Also my expressions I made are heldon my magnets also. When I'm wearing the mask I can see perfectly well through it and nobody can see me through it. I was able to walk around with my house lights dimmed with no problem and I was wearing some highly modified heels I made specifically for this cosplay. The heels don't have a heel at all and I'm on my tip-toes all the time!
If you wish to see a picture as an example you can friend me on facebook and look at my current status. Also to see the heels you just need to look thorugh my work in progress folder on facebook as well. Here's the link: http://www.facebook.com/#!/CosmosFox

secretsof2113
02-04-2011, 06:51 PM
Pics of it?

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