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kiratsukai
10-26-2010, 04:42 AM
I have been trying to pursue some sort of diagnosis for bald spots and hair loss but all the tests so far have come out clear. I've shed a lot of hair in the last three years and have lost about 10 kilos in the last year... but the hair loss intensified about a month after I had given up on restricting calories entirely.

"Stress" and "nutrition" are the only culprits anyone seems to be able to implicate.

Only, I've not been stressed in the least, take a multivitamin, eat organic and am not avoiding any particular foods or rationing calories.

But for whatever reason ~ it's falling out.

Can anyone recommend some suppliments that might be able to help me get... whatever it is I'm not getting from eating a diet already heavy on fresh fruit, veggies, meat and ocaisional seafood.

Has anyone found a magic bullet for their own hair loss problems?

Kasinator
10-26-2010, 07:25 AM
try using less shampoo for one thing. that can cause a lot of problems. I always thought hairloss was a weird bodily double standard, especially for guys. we keep shaving our facial hair and that NEVER goes bald. yet for some reason the hair on our heads which we take care of the most decides to quit.:sulk:

JediFran
10-26-2010, 07:25 AM
I don't think there's a magic bullet :(

But zinc, b12 and iron are common culprits. Multivitamins and
Ferrous sulphate (both over the counter stuff) might help?

Have you been to your doctor and had some bloods
Done?? It might be something as simple as anaemia (low red blood cell or iron count depending on the type of anaemia)

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TortureBunni
10-26-2010, 04:04 PM
Not a nutritional solution, but how to you ususally wear your hair? If your hair is worn pulled-back tightly on a regular basis, it can lead to hair loss.

Ivyna J. Spyder
11-01-2010, 12:23 PM
Have you had your thyroid levels checked...?

Hair loss and weight loss can be hyperthyroid symptoms. D: So definitely think about seeing an endocrinologist if you haven't already.

liivingdeadgirl
11-01-2010, 01:08 PM
I dunno if you wear wigs a lot but that can contribute to it. My hair is really thin now, mostly cause I keep it colors, but I think the wigs help. Just like wearing hats all the time.

kiratsukai
11-02-2010, 03:26 AM
Had a full blood panel done.

Nothing is out of the ordinary. Endocrinologist is also clear.

They gave me a little bottle of something called "Derumozooru" (Delmozol? Dermozol?) for the bald patch and have me rubbing that on morning and night. No sign of regrowth after a week and a half.

Next up is the dermatologist.

In the meantime I've doubled my protein intake and am trying to drink as much water as possible. It hasn't helped in the least. It just seems to be making my face feel a little greasier.

Selkies
11-02-2010, 03:43 AM
i heard taking biotin and also applying olive oil in your hair can slightly work

Loplod
11-02-2010, 03:57 AM
Genetics.

Try what you will and hope for the best, But sometimes you just draw the short straw.

I wish you the best though, Hopefully some of the tips here will help you out.

Ssbfan2
11-02-2010, 08:26 AM
Make sure your getting enough protien I'm a vegetarian and if I dont take a protien pill I'll lose my hair

HEYOashley
11-02-2010, 08:25 PM
You could try taking prenatal vitamins?? I know a lot of girls who try that. I personally have never given it a shot myself. I think everyone has the occasional freak out about losing their hair, but routinely we go through more hair loss during different seasons.

blackmagick
11-03-2010, 06:24 AM
Try a regimen of castor oil. Twice a week, before you go to bed, put castor oil on your roots/scalp (don't use a lot as its really messy) and put your hair up in a cheap plastic shower cap and sleep in it. In the morning, wash it out completely. Also, try using a non sulfate shampoo. Most regular shampoos actually dry out your hair in order to clean it (that's why there is conditioner).

Taking supplements like biotin and fish oil are said to help as well.

These things don't work overnight so you have to give it time.

raNar
11-27-2010, 07:20 PM
I noticed my hair falling out a lot before I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia. It doesn't sound like anything you might have, but just wanted to let you know you aren't alone.

Fish oil, biotin, and magnesium are some of the things I take to help.

Good luck.

kiratsukai
11-27-2010, 07:40 PM
I'm currently using:

-medicated shampoo and conditioner for thin-looking hair (from my mother, who is worried)
-a small, soft back brush with widely spaced bristles (also from my mother)
-flaxseed oil capsules (mother)

I'm currently eating:
-hijiki ( for zinc, vitamin B)
-beans (for plant protein)
-lean chicken (protein)
-scallops, shrimp, fish (for some variety and fish oils)
-vegatable juice (in leiu of a multivitamin, since I was worried about potential vitamin A in excess)

Currently doing:
-washing hair only three times a week (much more pulls out after washes)
-spending all of my time at home with my hair down (fearing traction alopecia)
-changing my part daily and wearing a variety of up-styles much looser than usual (again, fearing traction alopecia)
-avoiding wearing wigs and going to cosplay events. I figured a bit of time off might be in order before the December rush which is bound to take off LOADS of my hair in the shuffle.

After about a month of this, the shedding has slowed a little bit (from about 200 strands shed a day to 150 or so) and there are signs of some regrowth in the bald spot. It isn't enough to cover what has already shed even when it grows out and the spot is slowly growing in area, but it's encouraging nonetheless.

UsakoLuna
11-27-2010, 11:36 PM
Don't comb or brush your hair when wet. At all. Also, you may not feel stressed but you might feeling some strain, and this is your body's way of reacting to it. I would be careful with the medicated shampoo until you see a dermatologist. You could be treating one condition as another and making it worse with out realizing it. You may need to take an iron pill or something, as I believe anemia can cause hair loss, and your diet isn't very iron rich. (I'm not a fan of red meat, and tend be borderline anemic, though I was anemic for a while, and I noticed my hair was off until I got my iron back up) do you notice your hair loss is worse right around your period? If so, you might was to get your iron levels checked.

kiratsukai
11-29-2010, 07:22 AM
Today was a crappy, discouraging day. In the shower, only about 15 hairs pulled out. Unfortunatley they were all in the front and the shed afterward was equally discouraging... My bald spot can no longer be hidden without a truly epic combover held in place with product.

It seems very likely that the three days of wigs at Comiket will take out the last of my natural hairline and leave me in wigs 24-7.

I want to cry.
But I'm not giving up yet.

Just feel kind of lousy about it all :/

emmisu
11-29-2010, 12:55 PM
I'm sorry for your trouble ;_;
this may or may not help (http://weloveourhair.com/2009/02/22/5-tips-to-cover-bald-spots/)

You could try taking Birth Control Pills or other estrogen supplements as they tend to make your hair softer and fuller while reducing other body hair on your legs and stuff. I highly recommend it, since it's the main thing women have over men in the hair loss department.

Take Fish Oil and Iron supplements and a Vitamin B tablet if you want. Anemia can be a big part of it as well.

Massage your scalp regularly with warm avacado or olive oil to help soothe your scalp and heal split ends. Spit ends can (if untrimmed) make the rest of the hair break up and thin out. Keep your scalp healthy with Head & Shoulders for sensitive scalps. I use that and it helps tremendously with irritated scalps and hair breakage.


I really this helps you at least a little bit!
Good luck :3

Mangochutney
11-29-2010, 01:11 PM
I don't have any suggestions (it sounds like you're kind of swimming in them at the moment) but I wanted to offer my sympathy. It's a rough thing to lose hair, and when it becomes a public thing rather than a private thing that's another blow. Good luck--you mentioned seeing some regrowth and I hope it continues.

If you can't find a treatment that works, remember that there are much worse things than baldness. Bald people get to do things like this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v706/Poitboing/back-head-tattoos-17.jpg

justinedemine
12-01-2010, 06:50 AM
Most types of hair loss have no cure. A person as male pattern baldness or female, can undergo a hair transplant, in which hair follicles are removed from one part of the body and transplanted. Some medicines or hair loss, such as topical minoxidil can promote hair growth in a small percentage of people.

glitter bomb
12-01-2010, 05:27 PM
I'm so sorry to hear you're still having problems with this. It's good that you're seeing an Endocrinologist, and a Dermatologist may also be able to help. Ditto what someone else said about thyroid (that's a test that can lead to false "normal" results, as I'll mention below).

Also, don't be afraid to get a second or third opinion from those specialists if they aren't able to help. Despite what many of them may pretend, doctors are just as fallible as any other person and their ability to diagnose is based on the limits of their own research and experience. That doesn't mean there's no answer out there, just that that particular doctor doesn't know it.

You're young, so that's the first red flag that your hair loss isn't just normal aging or heredity. The fact that you say the hair loss significantly increased after you both lost a lot of weight and suddenly changed your diet, that's another red flag IMO. It could be something hormonal since dramatic weight loss can affect a woman's menstrual cycle (or more accurately, the hormones that regulate it). I hope that you're able to find a cause and solution soon.

re: supplements: raNar listed everything I have read about. those can help, but I believe it depends on what is causing the hair loss.

Here in the states there is Rogaine for women, a topical solution for hair loss. It has only so-so results for women (better for men), but it may be worth a try.

Re: stress: if you're very good at coping with stress, in the sense of getting things done despite it, you may not realize that your body is actually under a great deal.

I've had this happen in the past where emotionally I felt ok, but in reality my body was under tremendous daily stress due to work and personal demands. As a result, I was underestimating the physical barrage my body was under. When you are subjected to stress your body is flooded with chemicals and hormones, basically your fight or flight response, it undergoes a very real physical change. And that change can have many detrimental effects on all your body's systems, including your immune system. (You can look this up for a more scientific explanation, it's been proven, I'm just clumsily summarizing.)

You might not feel emotionally stressed, but it may be worth looking at the kinds of hours you're working at a job or school, as well as how many hours you have deadlines or duties, the kinds of demands or pressure put on you, how many hours of sleep you're getting, etc. You may be under more stress than you realize and that could be blowing out your system in some manner, contributing to or causing the hair loss. Also keep in mind that even positive events can be experienced as stress. Research has shown that events such as a wedding, new job, or move that the individual perceives as positive still have the same effect on the body as a negatively stressful event.


FYI, from talking with doctors and doing research, most blood tests are pretty much worthless if you're actually ill with something yet undiagnosed. The reason is that
(1) most labs don't have quality processing (you need a specialized lab for that); and
(2) the range of what's "healthy" is so ridiculously broad that you could be labeled as "normal" even if you are right on the edge of what's "sick" (say 1-2 is sick / 3-12 is healthy / 13-14 is sick... you measure 2.95 and they'll mark you as healthy instead of sick, rather than noticing that your body may function differently and perhaps they should investigate).

I mention this not to be discouraging, but to share that it may be worth a discussion with your doctor, or the Endocrinologist. Asking exactly what your results were and what that means for possible treatment may help. A friend had this problem, where doctors kept ignoring symptoms because her blood work was "normal." When she was later treated for the condition that they insisted she didn't have because of her "normal" bloodwork, she improved DRAMATICALLY. Like, life-changing dramatically. Because -- surprise, surpise -- she did have the condition. She was on the edge of the healthy/sick border, and for her body measuring at that mark indicated she was sick. The same way that one person's body temperature might always run lower or higher than the standard "normal" mark.

I don't know what the medical system is like in this regard outside of the states, but I thought it was worth mentioning. It can be very frustrating to have an obvious symptom of a problem, like hairloss, and be told that you're "healthy" despite evidence to the contrary. Even worse is when they then insist the problem is only psychological because they can't figure out a medical cause. So I thought it might be helpful to note some of these issues with doctors and testing.

good luck with all of this.

glitter bomb
12-01-2010, 05:35 PM
sorry that was long, I wanted to share what I have learned to date in case it might lead to something helpful. It sucks when an illness or imbalance presents a symptom that affects our appearance as well -- then we're left feeling self-conscious in social situations, or subjected to nasty comments, on top of dealing with the stress of the "what the heck is happening to me??"

It sounds like you are doing everything you can to take care of yourself right now. Hopefully they'll figure out what's going on soon. FWIW, sometimes hair loss can be temporary and reverse itself to some degree once the problem is resolved. So hang in there. :)

ZoeyNuriko
12-02-2010, 01:28 AM
It sounds like alopecia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alopecia

I was diagnosed with it a couple years ago by a dermatologist. T_T Its very common apparently. But there are things to help regrow hair like taking cortisone shots [I haven't yet, but I would like to try it.] and there's even cortisone cream that you apply that I have yet to find. T_T But your dermatologist should give you some.

I hope that helps. ^_^

kiratsukai
12-02-2010, 02:06 AM
glitterbomb and mango> Thanks.

I really appreciate the thoughtful, supportive responses and the humor, too.

My goal is to come out of this looking and feeling awesome. If that means being brave enough to shave it all off, so be it. But it takes a lot of angsting before awesome happens sometimes :/ It really helps to have people you already think are awesome egging you on.

shilohgomz
12-21-2010, 05:36 AM
Lack of vitamin b6 is responsible for the hair loss, there are another reasons like stress, Skin disorder, Aging, Iron deficiency are also the cause of the hair loss. For vitamins b6 we have to takes potatos, Peanuts, Cashew nuts etc. in the diet.

Tampopo_Hoshi
12-25-2010, 09:58 AM
It sounds like alopecia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alopecia



^

Ditto. This is probably the post you should take into consideration.

RydiaValentine
12-25-2010, 03:06 PM
I'm sorry Kiratsukai that you have to go through that. I know alopecia is worrying for a woman, but if you worry too much, it will get worse. It happened me with acne recently, and with massive falling of my hair when I was between 15 - 17 years old. Also two years ago, when I put a bobby pin too deep in my hair, and a little zone got bald. I just decided not to worry and take precautions: natural products (mostly food) for the acne and now it almost gone. I also don't have problems with my hair anymore.

If your hair is thin and greasy, cut it short (shoulder lenght or even shorter) and wear it always loose. Don't wash it more than two times a week and never brush it while wet; let it dry alone or use a hairdrier with low heat. If you want to cover the bald zone, wear a hat, a headscarf or a hairband. And maybe you lack of vitamins B1, B6 and B12, it's fairly common.

Hope you can solve this problem, and don't let it get you down.